BeachBums07

[Deevine1]

BeachBums07 I had over a $100 balance with them and requested cashout-- they marked me as a "Cheater" (Which I am not!) and stole my money. The liars don't even have the guts to answer my emails or provide any explanation. I know in this world of GPT Fraud that site owners have all kinds of options but it seems that the users are getting screwed left and right and have no options.

[Taff]

On checking out the site if its http://www.beachbums07.com

Then I am sorry to say that it shows the site is suspended

[jennteel]

She announced she was closing until at least august. Not even sure if she will reopen. And the announcement came the day before she closed LOL!!! She did not lower the cashout amount so if you had less than 20 or 25 (cannot remember which one) in your account you did not get paid and she kept your earnings. Unfortuanly you should chalk that up to lost money to a thief.

[Merlin2307]

Here's the whois info and I would suggest filing complaints here and with the BBB in Georgia. Here's the whois:

At the request of the person concerned, I have edited out this WHOIS information and the incitement to harass from this post.

WHOIS information is publicly available at sites such as http://whois.domaintools.com/beachbums07.com.

The reason the information has been edited in this post is because of the incitement to harass also contained within the post - which is not acceptable here.

By all means use this information to attempt to contact the owner if you have a grievance, but this forum does not condone harassment.

-- Rob.

Hope this helps. As always....Merlin....

[BeachBums]

Deevine 1,
You were deleted for repeating several trial offers, not only on my site but a few others, my choices were to delete your account, or loose mine. My apologies for doing the right thing here. I am sure that if you ask a few other owners, some with guts would tell you they got the same email.
Jenteel, if you knew anything of my site, the payout was $10.
I had to make the choice to close due to things going on in my family and refused to leave it open giving any member a chance to do other offers that I knew I would not be home to deal with. My apologies to you if you do not understand this.
I would appreciate my address and phone number being removed from this post.

[jennteel]

I stand corrected then. I could have sworn it said 20 bucks. And I do know your site because I am...or was (whatever it may be) a member there. Maybe 5-6-7-8- or 9.99 dollars means nothing to you but in this line of work that can sometimes be hard to make. Most other sites lower their cashout to a buck if they are closing up. That is the business like thing to do.

[Merlin2307]

If a moderator wants to edit the whois info that is their choice. It is publicly available information. You come here and accuse 1 person of cheating and provide no proof,make no statement about paying people who are owed. Get real! As always....JMO....Merlin

[suzyb2wierd]

this is the same person who kicked out all program owners from her program earlier this year or was it late last year? All the scams run together at the same time.

As for your whois information, IF you PAID up you wouldn't have to worry about phone calls, angry emails, angry snail mails.

as for your whois information, IF you gave more than ONE day warning of the closing you wouldn't have to worry about phone calls, angry emails, angry snail mails.

If this PO didn't practice "creative debt control" ie kicking out PO's for no reason other than they are PO's and calling people cheaters with NO proof, then she would have nothing to fear from angry phone calls, angry emails, angry snail mails.

[Merlin2307]

Rob, there was no intent to incite to harass,simply straight forward suggestions for people to have a chance to get what money is rightly owed to them. People have a right to money that they have justly earned. They deserve consideration,a PO that runs deserves no consideration IMO. Merlin

[Mom2DaStars]

Originally Posted by Merlin2307

Rob, there was no intent to incite to harass,simply straight forward suggestions for people to have a chance to get what money is rightly owed to them. People have a right to money that they have justly earned. They deserve consideration,a PO that runs deserves no consideration IMO. Merlin

Not ALL censorship is bad, but I do see what you're saying. At the same time you need to give some leeway to these programs, as you're basing your opinion on one or two internet forum posts. You have to take into account the fact that a member(s) may be upset at a site for incorrect reasons and therefore post lies about that site. Just playing devil's advocate a bit, but I personally always see both sides to the Site/Member situations.

[Deevine1]

The owner is an absolute and total liar.... she makes money off of us and then steals our earnings.. No worries, all bad karma catches up and she will hers in the end... I am just sorry i won't be there to laugh in her face when she does.... you are a liar and a thief and I hope you burn for all the money you have stolen and lies you have told

[suzyb2wierd]

mom2dastars--at least some of us are basing our opinions and posts on the actions and posts HERE of the actual owner of the site--not the member complaints.

she did delete all site owners from her site for no reason other than them being site owners. This was in her terms only AFTER she did the actual deletion of members for no reason other than they owned sites

who now earns off the referrals from these deleted members? She does.....she took advantage of other site owners to build her member base and then booted out the very people who built her member base simply because they own sites.

Would YOU like to be deleted from a site when YOU have done nothing wrong, when in fact YOU helped build the member base of the site? Didn't think so. Deleting cheaters is one thing, deleting people simply because they own GPT sites is another thing and is not the way to run a site professionally.

Any owner that comes into a forum and states that someone is a cheater and provides NO proof is guilty of either libel or slander.

Any owner that gives only ONE DAY notice of closing the site is unprofessional at best and incompetent at worst

[ybond]

As a site owner myself, I can say that I too have received charge backs on this deevine member. I have only been open 5 months and when I received the reversal report, although the user name was not as this member is listed, the email address for the 2 offers were listed.
deevine1@1netcentral.com
Deevine, unless someone is stealing your email address, you repeated offers, and were banned from my site as well.

As for the owners being deleted, I don't know what happened with this particular site, but have been myself advised not to allow other program owners on my site due to the rapid amount of fraud. Most Networks will tell you that when you own a site, and refer your own members to those sites, the larger the chance that those very members will repeat offers on the next, then the next site.
I have myself chosen to not allow owners on my site because chances are, I will pay a huge amount in referral contests to owners who are only sending repeaters my direction. I choose to take the stance on fraud, and if this is to help, then I would rather choose to have 5 new members, than 200 duplicators that causes risks to my accounts. There are more ways of looking at this situation than just that an owner is looking to make money off of other program owners. (Not taking sides, just an opinion of another program owner)
And what really makes you think that program owners don't do any wrong. When I opened my site, I was told by several owners that if I promote, or gain friendships with particular site owners, that they would destroy me before my feet hit the ground.
What I am saying is, before you make judgment, then at least try to see all sides of this.

Take a look at these blogs:
http://www.24hrsfastcash.blogspot.com/
http://proof-of-payment.blogspot.com/

Study them good, then compare. Some members are allowed to get new usernames and repeat offers. This blog clearly shows it.

After researching just a little, seems this is the very poster who wanted to burn this particular site owner for deleting other owners accounts. Interesting find.

[ybond]

As a site owner myself, I can say that I too have received charge backs on this deevine member. I have only been open 5 months and when I received the reversal report, although the user name was not as this member is listed, the email address for the 2 offers were listed.
deevine1@1netcentral.com
Deevine, unless someone is stealing your email address, you repeated offers, and were banned from my site as well.

As for the owners being deleted, I don't know what happened with this particular site, but have been myself advised not to allow other program owners on my site due to the rapid amount of fraud. Most Networks will tell you that when you own a site, and refer your own members to those sites, the larger the chance that those very members will repeat offers on the next, then the next site.
I have myself chosen to not allow owners on my site because chances are, I will pay a huge amount in referral contests to owners who are only sending repeaters my direction. I choose to take the stance on fraud, and if this is to help, then I would rather choose to have 5 new members, than 200 duplicators that causes risks to my accounts. There are more ways of looking at this situation than just that an owner is looking to make money off of other program owners. (Not taking sides, just an opinion of another program owner)
And what really makes you think that program owners don't do any wrong. When I opened my site, I was told by several owners that if I promote, or gain friendships with particular site owners, that they would destroy me before my feet hit the ground.
What I am saying is, before you make judgment, then at least try to see all sides of this.

Take a look at these blogs:
:www.24hrsfastcash.blogspot.com/
httproof-of-payment.blogspot.com/

Study them good, then compare. Some members are allowed to get new usernames and repeat offers. This blog clearly shows it.

After researching just a little, seems this is the very poster who wanted to burn this particular site owner for deleting other owners accounts. Interesting find.

24hrsfastcash.blogspot
proof-of-payment.blogspot


Both of these people are members of my site but have done less than 10 offers between the two....they refer people, hence the reason they make so much money. Neither has duplicated any offers.

I just thought I would give you a head up as I don't think it's fair to lump them into repeating offers when the full picture isn't given.