Click4Cents

[kglaser]

See this thread on GetPaidForum:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=11028&st=0

Basically, it states that Click4Cents, under its new ownership, will reset all cash earnings to ZERO on 9/22/02. We have until then to redeem for advertising.

I'm not happy about this. I'm not alone. See the above thread.

[BaroqueXena]

Seconded.

I have $8.30 in earnings which I made without any referrals and I have been with them since the beginning.

Now I'm going to lose it all along with everyone else in the program.

Apparently you can redeem for advertising but who's going to click the links when your money is going to be taken away on 22/09/02 anyway?

[Gwenick]

I agree I think it's disgusting. I've already quit them and I'm not going back.

[cyberrat]

I think some people buy the paid to read programs make a bundle and then sell them to someone else before they have to pay anyone. Which is a win win for them. I just cant believe people are actually buying the secondhand programs makes me mad because that just helps the first webmaster screw people over and fills their pockets even more GRRR

[Keith]

Should they be added to the boycott list? I think so but what do you all think? We already have a few complaints.

I'm going to send them an email and see what's up

Keith

[Gwenick]

Originally posted by cyberrat
I think some people buy the paid to read programs make a bundle and then sell them to someone else before they have to pay anyone.

I thought some people HAD been paid by Denise????

[Keith]

I think people have been. She had to sell the site because she didnt have any time to run it.

Keith

[Gwenick]

That's what I thought - I reckon it's this guy that's taken it over that the problem here not Denise. Someone over on Getpaidforums suggested that Denise was somehow to blame for not putting something in the contract about the issue. However, I've got a suspiscion that it wouldn't have made any difference.

It wouldn't suprise me if this new owner takes the money that people pay from their paypal accounts to top up for advertising/gold membership and then disappears with it all.

Boycott them

[Keith]

I dont think Denise is to blame. She sold the site to someone who changed it. Nothing she could really do.

Still waiting for Mike's reply...

Keith

[tipsy]

I agree this is horrible... I think they should be made to keep the member's balances... That's like saying I know you worked 40 hours but we decided to bring you working hours to 0 so we don't have to pay you... Boycott it.. :( I didn't have much of a balance because I didn't have any referrals but still it was work I did and maybe I don't want advertising...

[Poncer]

Maybe we can spread the word by having other webmasters send an e-mail to the problem by directing them to these posts to complain. I am seeing complaints all over now.

[PaulaErica]

30 cents from cashing out.....mostly on my own and now this

what a joke

[redstone17]

I think to take money that is already earned is stealing from the members. His first act for his new membership! If that doesn't warrant a boycott what does?

[b21jpv]

This is such BULL DODDY . I am already a gold member with,



You have directly earned: $ 5.1650
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.5760
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 8.7410
You have directly earned: 3,450Points
You have earned from your Downline: 851Points
Total available points after all transactions: 4,301Points
Downline Count
#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
5 53 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total: 61


Now I have to start all over again.


What happens when someone sells there site? Do they make arragments to give the new webmaster some money to pay of the members or dose the old webmaster just take the money and run?

Whats the deal made.

I wish every body that belongs to these programs, when a new webmaster dose this that all of us whould just quite and not sign up again and then maybe these idiots whould think twice about screwing us over. What a jerk!!

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[sore_fingers]

I think the old owner should have made good on her debts before selling. I understand the new owner doesn't want to pay for a site and then be stuck with debt that wasn't his own. But the sale should have either included that as part of the deal, or the old owner should have paid anything outstanding before selling it. That's pretty much the law. I think she like many site owners builds up and runs, sells it on ebay, and saddles some sucker who bought the site with debt. A friend of mine said there's an ebook going around that shows people how to build up a site and then ebay it and run with the money. It's happening a lot lately and I think a lot of them go in to the business planning to build up a site's reputation and then pawn off the accounts on someone who gets it off of ebay. I'm thinking of quitting all programs that sell paid mails and memberships on ebay because they might just end up selling the whole program.
Bottom line is, the new owner and the members just got gypped.

[Leah]

When you buy a business you buy the debt too... but I think you buy the revenu also, so the part of the revenu from the advertising that belongs to the member should have been given to the new owner as a part of the deal... Is that what happens? Only the seller and buyer can answer that one.

What I really don't understand here is why did he buy Click4cent? He paid $635 for the site... Link to eBay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1759998857
when he could have buy a new one at MEC for $300!!!

Any ideas?

[sore_fingers]

because if you buy a site, you don't have to start with 0 members. A site that's been around sells for more than a new one because they already know advertisers and have members and it makes it easier to get new advertisers. Advertisers don't like taking a risk with a new site that hasn't had experience and isn't as well known as an old site. The problem is that the webmasters use the site to build up their own downlines in other programs, make a little money from advertisers, and then since they only paid 300 for the site they auction it off for 600 or more. It's because the new person is buying the member base. Then they start a brand new one and do it all over again. Webmasters also "swap" referrals with other webmasters which is basically ripping off their gold members. I think MEC and CAC should step in and change the contract so that the site and scripts can't be resold. Like if it doesn't work out the person just shuts down or can sell the domain name but not resell the member base and the pages. I have lost almost all respect for the CAC and MEC people because if they cared about anything they wouldn't allow their members to do this. It isn't good business for them and it's strange that they allow the resale of their scripts and hosting plans. When the site gets sold they don't make anything off of it and they are losing money because the new person isn't paying them for the scripts. The only one making money is the old webmaster, not CAC or MEC. These people are reselling something that is CAC's or MEC's property and those kind of scripts are usually copyrighted. If a Burger King shut down and I bought the land, I wouldn't have the right to use their menus, trademarks, and products, I'd have to clear the building out and do my own thing and start a new business with an original name.

[mystry13]

Last email from click4 cents

ok, so this will make some of you happy, sorry not me.

I am still stealing your money, but just not as much.

Trust me I will do good by the members.

I am going to send out more and better emails.

I hope all of you who trust this _____ , dont get hurt anymore than we/ you have already.

I cancelled my account.

1. I got screwed
2. I dont trust him.
3. If he get away with this , what stops him the next time.
4Least he could have done was offer you a silver membership for stealing your money. That would apeased most for 6 months.

I dont understand how he still has a membership left.
Someone steals my money I dont say THANK YOU

My rants and wraves, just _______ me off

Have a nice evening
Just me

[Enchanted]

You have directly earned: $ 5.4125
You have earned from your Downline: $ 11.0366
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 16.4490
You have directly earned: 2,672Points
You have earned from your Downline: 12,412Points
Total available points after all transactions: 10,934Points
Downline Count
#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
70 36 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total: 111


Those are my stats, I have not been paid ONCE!! and I am going to lose all that????

No wonder I have been furious the whole weekend!!!

[hata]

seconded boycott the sit !!
i got 18 paid mails from the sit in about 24 hours or so
would i feel better???nooooo i feel worst
I SAW A FACT
we are forced to spend our earing on his sit
WE ARE DOUBLE EXPLIOTED FROM HIS SIT by only allow redeem earning to adv or upgrade membership
we all know a successful GPTsit need lots adv and we were forced to redeem our earing to adv
what does it mean??if i click the redeem button,i am DOUBLE USED
with so many mails i got,he is announceing he is going to run a suceessful sit and there will have many mails comeing,well it looks like in the way seemingly???!!!!
NO WAY,IF YOU REDEEM,THAT'S YOUR MONEY SUPPORT HIM GETTING SUCESS AND YOU ARE EXPLIOTED !!!!!
by the way ,another mail i got saying he may just reset earing to $3 amount
well that doesn't impress me much ,look at homepage,new member join and you got $sign up bonus !!
i am just so tired of those trick !!!!!!

[snafu]

Last email I received from the webmaster


Hello again members.

I am bowing to the majority and will not perform the reset. All earnings will remain as is. The one change I will make instead is raising the Paypal cash payout to a $20.00 amount. No one will lose any earnings, but it will take longer to receive a payout. I appreciate everyone's views and have read all the complaints. I have made this change even after answering many mails saying my policy would remain, but enough was enough. I apologize to the membership for causing so much aggravation.

Next, since I am sure 99% of the current redemptions I have in the advertising area are related to my previous policy of the reset, I am deleting them all because there are so many to go through. I know I put the members through a lot of work making the redemptions, but most would rather keep their earnings from what I have been told. Any redemptions that the members still want to perform, I will need them to be redone. Because of the time involved in reading all the complaints and support mail I have done a limited amount of redemptions. I have a record of those, but if any of the members that used cash earnings into redemptions that I have performed make the request, I will credit their account. Since point redemptions made were not going to be affected by the reset, there won't be a credit for them.

I hope this qualms the anger of most of the members and I hope you will continue your membership with the site. Thanks again for everyone's input.

Mike

[Taff]

Power To The People

[Keith]

See if we all work together we can get something done!

Keith