No Response from 2daily -- watch ...

[VideoBob2000]

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1. 2daily.com

2. non-payment, no response to email contact, missing upgrades, missing payout links, missing compounding links, not rotating sites, changing rules, pressuring members for upgrades, telling members NOT to email them about discrepancies -- is that enough to start with?

3. payment was requested and confirmed via automated email from 2daily on March 25th, and deducted from the cash balance immediately. Most recent compound on April 7th was deducted, but never applied. Compound and Cashout buttons have been removed from the site.

4. not deleted as of right now, but I'm bracing for a boatload of mail bombs and web attacks from members when this is published, because that's exactly what they encouraged their membership to do to another member in an email about "hanski962" on April 17th at 4:28 AM. I have most recently informed them that if they did not respond, I would have to post warnings about them. Apparently, they don't care at this point. I am not the only one who has had this problem, as my referrals have expressed concern about the site also.

5. joined and cash upgraded this site on March 4th, again on March 17th. Email was always answered until the first time I requested a cashout.

I would like to see Mike and Patty do the right thing with the web site. I have referred several folks who have also upgraded. I hope this is just an oversight, but it seems highly unlikely in view of the number of ignored emails, and the changes made to the site that prevent the possibility of even ASKING for cashouts or upgrades from earnings.

I have complete and total documentation on all of this.

Mike & Patty (or whoever you really are) ... please get your act together and make this right!

[kewpie]

My suspicion is that 2Daily is undergoing growing pains. Give them a chance to catch up. I have been paid by them more than once. Image below shows just one instance. I support this program fully. :D :D :D

http://www.kreatedbykewpie.com/2Dpay.GIF

[old-man]

i was promoting 2daily, and still doing it so.. but looking to stop doing it.
And there are lot of reasons. Surfing is terrible, always get "cant connect and etc"
Now they are looking to delete accounts just for a reason if u asked cashout with breaking their rules. Its very dissapointed me :\
Many users will loose their accounts.
I was paid by them twice as well, but support and surfing is terrible

[wa23gs]

Ya, there are just too many things going wrong with this program to put any faith in it anymore. Just how they've been pushing their members to upgrade so much with 'contests' and all is not a good sign. Also how they told members to e-mail one of their members because of something he had on his website about 2daily, that should never be done. The admin should have taken care of that issue themselves rather than getting members to do it for them. Not cool.

[koala72]

i upgraded with paypal and i cant get paid to i file a complaint on paypal if yes what would i say?

[godsentprice]

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1. 2daily.com

2. non-payment, no response to email contact, missing upgrades, missing payout links, missing compounding links, not rotating sites, changing rules, pressuring members for upgrades, telling members NOT to email them about discrepancies -- is that enough to start with?

3. payment was requested and confirmed via automated email from 2daily on March 25th, and deducted from the cash balance immediately. Most recent compound on April 7th was deducted, but never applied. Compound and Cashout buttons have been removed from the site.

4. not deleted as of right now, but I'm bracing for a boatload of mail bombs and web attacks from members when this is published, because that's exactly what they encouraged their membership to do to another member in an email about "hanski962" on April 17th at 4:28 AM. I have most recently informed them that if they did not respond, I would have to post warnings about them. Apparently, they don't care at this point. I am not the only one who has had this problem, as my referrals have expressed concern about the site also.

5. joined and cash upgraded this site on March 4th, again on March 17th. Email was always answered until the first time I requested a cashout.

I would like to see Mike and Patty do the right thing with the web site. I have referred several folks who have also upgraded. I hope this is just an oversight, but it seems highly unlikely in view of the number of ignored emails, and the changes made to the site that prevent the possibility of even ASKING for cashouts or upgrades from earnings.

I have complete and total documentation on all of this.

Mike & Patty (or whoever you really are) ... please get your act together and make this right!
I could do a paragraph or two on 2Daily but, you have just taken the words
right out of my mouth! Everything that you have stated in your message
has and is happening to me a this very moment, with the same dates.
Its like I wrote this message...it is so true! I have sent them numberous
emails which they just don't answer....I too have been unable to compound
since the 7th of April which still saids "your cashout to compound has been
received"....No button for cashouts available either....I believe this to be a
scam and I too will begin to post to forums and Scam sites, to alert every
potential member, to beware of joining this site. I hate to say it but, I am
glad to see that I am not alone....this only reinforces my belief...Thanks
ps....by the way hanski962 is a family member with me in our beloved
http://www.studiotraffic.comref link removed a excellent/ solid program.
So far I have been paid over $2,600 member since June '04 paid on time
every month! Still building my accounts (A+ rating) multiple programs
available...YOU HAVE GOT TO JOIN THIS ONE! THE BEST!

godsentprice
please do not spam your referral link

[flykitty]

In light of recent developments -- or should I say, 'non-developments'? -- 2Daily should definitely be on a watch list if not the boycott list itself. I have never had any problems until recently: I requested cashout on May 2 and have still not received the $. When I e-mailed them about the matter, I got no response whatsoever. What really burns me, however, are their repeated 'newsletters' urging their members to upgrade in order to win their latest contest. I'd advise others to stay away until we know more.

[old-man]

Ya, there are just too many things going wrong with this program to put any faith in it anymore. Just how they've been pushing their members to upgrade so much with 'contests' and all is not a good sign. Also how they told members to e-mail one of their members because of something he had on his website about 2daily, that should never be done. The admin should have taken care of that issue themselves rather than getting members to do it for them. Not cool.

Yea, these crazy contests, with cash give away is a "signal". How they can afford to give such a amount as $1000 $750 $500 $250??? I think they want to get as much as possible $$$, and then run away.

[cash4uk]

One person on the 4daily forum says he's been paid by 2daily today. However, he did have the cashout listed in his history on 2daily and he contacted stormpay to sort it out. Similar thing happened to me last month - the withdrawal was showing in my history and money deducted from my cash balance. I was eventually paid. So if anybody is in a similar position it looks like worth pursuing with your processor.

But... what has recently happened is that the cashout button has not appeared, so without a time machine to go back to the start of May 2daily admin can claim that you haven't followed the correct cashout procedure. I myself sent numerous emails to them, both the support@2daily.com and (bizarrely) freemoney4u2@hotmail.com! Why use a hotmail addie for cashout problems? No response to any email this month.

And they still send us more stupid emails about upgrading! Which planet are they on?

Rych

[VideoBob2000]

And they still send us more stupid emails about upgrading! Which planet are they on? :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:
It's almost humorous ... got this today: "WE OPENED THE COMPOUND BUTTON AND FOR SOME REASON WE GET A COUPLE THOUSAND REQUEST FOR CASHOUTS."

DUH! :hehe: :music: :stupid: :\ :hehe: :alien:

[koala72]

all the stupid webmaster cares about is upgrading he keep begging for upgrades! buy 1 upgrade get 1 free who would upgrade at that annyoing site maybe before he does this upgrade offer why dosent he sort of the script,make surfing more smooth and FIX THE PAYPAL PROBLEM! he just said "m not paying with paypal but u cant keep your account" ay thats great but what are we supposed to do considering u have to cashout with the program you upraded with. ive sent 2 emails 1 being nice and the other one full of abuse no replies to either! DONT JOIN THIS CRAP PROGRAM!
:alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:
It's almost humorous ... got this today: "WE OPENED THE COMPOUND BUTTON AND FOR SOME REASON WE GET A COUPLE THOUSAND REQUEST FOR CASHOUTS."

DUH! :hehe: :music: :stupid: :\ :hehe: :alien:
lol that was funny

[cash4uk]

Any updates on this?

In one sense glad to see admin changing terms, unfortunately 4% for 60 days doesn't quite square with being "2daily", and waiting for people's current term to expire could take nearly 200 days. Perhaps just a smokescreen.

If I'm unable to cashout end of this month I'm not bothering anymore with it.

Rych

[flykitty]

The latest batch of e-mails from the 2Daily admin show just how dishonest they really are. (I could add a few more unprintable, unflattering adjectives, but I think you know what I mean). I'm also curious to know just how long they think they will be able to keep their members hanging on with promises about pending payouts and their desire to become a better program. For the owners of 2Daily to even try and compare themselves to 4Daily or claim that they're using '4' as a model is truly insulting to all of us who have kept the faith in this (now) scam program.

[ozhog]

Time to bomb out I think people, I've upgraded from earnings twice, but no show and no replies to emails. Take your losses and run. Don't forget to delete your rotating pages elsewhere.

Have just notified Stormpay of the problem, so I expect to be deleted by Mike and Pattie very soon.

Another thing, Mike and Pattie sound very Anglified names, but their spelling is certainly nothing like it.

[alycat]

I have been paid by 2daily, but they don't answe emails, they hold your money hostage (they currently have $10.00 of mine) . I was one of the '1000's' that requested cast-out. It must have been a blonde moment :\

The original request for payment was made and I was told that payment would be received on the 2nd. Then an email was sent stating that the terms were the 15th :(, HAHA the terms still stated the 2nd :!:

Emails are NEVER EVER answered

I beleive that my account might be deleted if I send an email requesting for the money to be returned to my account

I have been a member since early april, and yes I have been paid, but I think it doubtful that payment will be received next month IF[I] the button becomes avaiable again

But besides that a simple script change would overcome the cashout/compound problem, but they are either unwilling/unable to change it.

Plus the surfing very slow, IF you can get connected OR stay connected long enough to surf 50 pages :\

[VideoBob2000]

QUESTION:

Is 2Daily the same as XPAutoSurf? Or did one buy the script from the other? I'm not interested in casting doubt upon XP ... I just would like to know if there's a connection there.

I ask because back in March I got an email:

From: 2 Daily. com <support@xpautosurf.com>
Reply-To: ADMIN <support@xpautosurf.com>
To: BlubberBuns@aol.com
Date: Mar 20, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Membership Level

Our member level has grown to over 2300 in just weeks!
As most know nows the time to get in and get those referal
and make extra by promoting our site.

UPGRADE by MONEYBOOKERS-EGOLD-INTGOLD-STORMPAY
GET FREE EXTRA CREDITS FOR ALL UPGRADES.

Upgrade and earn a daily living right from your Home

Your Adminstartor George

[ozhog]

QUESTION:

Is 2Daily the same as XPAutoSurf? Or did one buy the script from the other? I'm not interested in casting doubt upon XP ... I just would like to know if there's a connection there.

I ask because back in March I got an email:

From: 2 Daily. com <support@xpautosurf.com>
Reply-To: ADMIN <support@xpautosurf.com>
To: BlubberBuns@aol.com
Date: Mar 20, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Membership Level

Our member level has grown to over 2300 in just weeks!
As most know nows the time to get in and get those referal
and make extra by promoting our site.

UPGRADE by MONEYBOOKERS-EGOLD-INTGOLD-STORMPAY
GET FREE EXTRA CREDITS FOR ALL UPGRADES.

Upgrade and earn a daily living right from your Home

Your Adminstartor George




Very interesting, looks like Mike or Patty or George or Luigi or whoever might have made a monumental stuff up.

The Administartor(sic) at XPAuto never answers emails either, did EVENTUALLY come through with a upgrade but no money yet.

Looks like a boycott is in the wind.

[alycat]

I beleive that XP and 2D are one in the same :(

Which also meads me to the conclusion that both should not be in operation under the current admin :(

Change the admin, perhaps change the outcome. But 2daily is destined to die, and I also believe XP is once it becomes common knowledge that they are basically one in the same

[VideoBob2000]

I beleive that XP and 2D are one in the same :(

I'd like at least a little more evidence before concluding that. I want to give folks the benefit of the doubt. All I've been able to find is that XPAutoSurf is hosted in Saudi Arabia, and 2Daily is hosted in Georgia. They have different WHOIS information, but the same ICANN Registrar. So nothing conclusive at all there.

[alycat]

As I said I beleive.

I don;t jump into forums and start rumors, this rumor was started weeks ago and the onset was probably the email that you received :(

This is stated in quite a few forums, as I only belong to 2daily and they don;t send email updates ONLY emails begging for money. I haven't seen any headers. but like I said several forums are claiming the same thing.

Like always rumor and fact are two totally different things. If rumor was right several other auto surf programs shouldn;t be in existance today.

[Gerry]

Yep 2daily was recommended to me by a member of ours. So I joined their program and Invested $500 in valid paypal funds with their program. When I first joined they were processing cashouts daily, within 2 weeks Mike changed it to monthly, maybe twice a month if we were good. So I surfed my sites daily and put in my request for $315 beginning of April when we were told to submit our requests for cashout. What is it now the end of May and absolutely nothing. I mean they could have at least paid once. They used to answer emails, now every attempt I make to contact them goes unanswered. How are these people still in business?? Are people actually still sending them money??

Now I have upgraded membershiips at alot of Autosurf sites, and most site owners that I have chosen to invest with come thorugh on payday. It just reminds ya not to put all of your eggs into one basket.

-Gerry
911hitz admin

[ozhog]

I'd like at least a little more evidence before concluding that. I want to give folks the benefit of the doubt. All I've been able to find is that XPAutoSurf is hosted in Saudi Arabia, and 2Daily is hosted in Georgia. They have different WHOIS information, but the same ICANN Registrar. So nothing conclusive at all there.

From: 2 Daily. com <support@xpautosurf.com>


The above header of the email that was received by a lot of people.
A mistake?
Enough evidence for me.
I also made a "query" to Stormpay, using my other Stormpay account of which Mike? would have no knowledge.
His replies to them were.
1, Can't please everyone.
2, Oh, just give him his refund.(I didn't upgrade using that address)

When Stormpay replied to him that HE would have to process the refund, guess what, silence.

[koala72]

Yep 2daily was recommended to me by a member of ours. So I joined their program and Invested $500 in valid paypal funds with their program. When I first joined they were processing cashouts daily, within 2 weeks Mike changed it to monthly, maybe twice a month if we were good. So I surfed my sites daily and put in my request for $315 beginning of April when we were told to submit our requests for cashout. What is it now the end of May and absolutely nothing. I mean they could have at least paid once. They used to answer emails, now every attempt I make to contact them goes unanswered. How are these people still in business?? Are people actually still sending them money??

Now I have upgraded membershiips at alot of Autosurf sites, and most site owners that I have chosen to invest with come thorugh on payday. It just reminds ya not to put all of your eggs into one basket.

-Gerry
911hitz admin
that sucks i only spent 20$ on this crap program with paypal to.

[ozhog]

Further to my complaint to Stormpay, 2Daily have come through and refunded my money. I guess thats a point in their favour. I'm giving them a big miss though and just for safety I'm dumping XP auto as well.

Just got an answer from Stormpay.Copied in full

Activity Log

Created by You
23 May 2005 23:27 Whilst I made this purchase with my eyes open, I now beleve that 2daily.com is a fraud and that you should look at suspending all dealings with them, please see http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=53384#post53384 for futher information.

Reply by Merchant
24 May 2005 16:41 cant please everyone

Reply by Merchant
24 May 2005 20:08 this request makes no since just refund it

Reply by StormPay
25 May 2005 06:20 Merchant, You can locate the transaction in your StormPay history by searching either the customer email address or transaction ID. To refund the payment check the box next to the transaction you would like to refund and then click the “refund” button found at the bottom of the page. If you need assistance please let us know.

Reply by StormPay
27 May 2005 18:40 Buyer, Please advise as to whether or not this issue was resolved by the merchant. May we close the claim?

StormPay Support

Reply by You
27 May 2005 19:22 I hold absolutely no hope of this person ever resolving the issue. The purpose of my "claim" was to alert you to the fact the "merchant" is in all probability, a fraud. But it seems all I get from you is automated responses so I am wasting my time.

Reply by StormPay
27 May 2005 19:51 Geoff, please be aware this is not automated and that real people are reviewing the details of this claim. We are awating a reply from the merchant. We will make a quick resolution of this matter. We want to give the merchant a chance to reply.

Reply by Merchant
28 May 2005 10:47 its obvious that this is a mooch who wanted free advertising and now that its already used wants to call someone a fraud. seems to me i should never accept payments from emails
using gmail. seems they are all kinks. ive refunded or made a payment of 10.00 to this mooch
and lets close this at that. stormpay i thank you for your time!

Reply by Merchant
28 May 2005 10:57 also if this member felt like its all fraud why is he still using the site? he has not missed a day
advertising his 4 site pages. just iritates me way some people always looking for something
for free i will delete his 4 sites from our rotation.

Reply by Merchant
28 May 2005 17:36 transaction number 3,266,309 10.00 pmt tp

Resolved by StormPay
28 May 2005 18:49 Payment refund initiated by Admin.

Reply by StormPay
28 May 2005 18:49 Geoff, The funds have been refunded by the merchant and placed back into your StormPay account. You may choose to spend these funds with another online vendor who accepts StormPay payments, or to withdraw the funds by clicking on the 'Withdraw' link found on the top header bar of your StormPay account. Please let us know if you need any additional assistance.

As you can see, Stormpay could obviously see the truth and made the refund themselves, whereas our old mate Mike, just went for the normal insults.

[VideoBob2000]

After waiting since the beginning of April, this came in late last night:
http://www.kernersville.com/pictures/2d-pay.gif
THANK YOU!
Good to see some movement here. The account still seems to be "broken" ... but at least attempts at repair are being made, and a payout has been done.

Thanks, Jodi for your intervention.

This is what the situation looks like from here:
The best I can tell, the problem stemmed from the payout request for those who, at the time, listed PayPal for their payment processor. At the time the request was made for payout for March's earnings, 2Daily's PayPal account was apparently still active. By the time my turn came up for payout, PayPal had suspended 2Daily's account. If you'll remember, they had just gone through some server issues, and obviously someone complained to PayPal, which caused the account to be frozen.

I'm sure Mike must have changed the options on 2Daily for upgrades and payouts to exclude PayPal at that time. But somehow, it confused the system. At that point, it appears to have first locked all the PayPal customers from being able to make further requests of any kind. That almost makes sense, because how can 2Daily pay out to a non-existant processor, right? But then it deleted all the PayPal requests that were in this "queue" ... again, you can't pay out to a processor that doesn't exist, right? Thus Mike must have thought that all was paid, and that suddenly hundreds of people were trying to scam him simultaneously.

I guess the biggest script bug was that it didn't matter to the system if you changed your payout information after Mike announced that PayPal was locking his account. The system blocked you from any compound or payout action, but still allowed upgrades -- interesting, eh?

The job Mike is apparently doing now is to go through accounts one-by-one to see if it has that problem. He does seem to be doing the payouts as they're located, but it remains to be seen if he's going to be able to fix the programming

I am not yet recommending this site for others to join and upgrade quite yet. Just reporting that there actually might be hope. My recommendation will be given once I see positive signs that all legitimate claims have been paid, and the site is working as it should. That said, I did put some more money in there ... after all, I got back three times as much as I put in!

Bob

[rinadina75]

fight for your moneyyyyyyyyy.........!!!!!

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Claim ID 2813 Claim Date 10 Jul 2005 16:25

Transaction ID 3,238,582 Transaction Date 23 May 2005 21:57

Status Resolved Merchant support@2daily.com


Activity Log

Created by You
10 Jul 2005 16:25 support@2daily.com is a scam does not pay me...i want back my money plus what they owe me.....please give back my money

Reply by Merchant
10 Jul 2005 20:50 get real!! you got your advertising you are owed nothing!

Reply by You
10 Jul 2005 22:48 Below is my account in 2daily…
Account Cash: $17.41 Paid today : yes Current daily earn : $0.6
Is this a real money or just a bunch of numbers in the account

Before this ive already request cashout from 2daily.com …the money already deduct from my 2daily account but not appers in my payment processor…does all this just playing around or what???playing with numbers like a little children???
The admin just keep on begging members to upgrade…promising double bonus and so on…if they could not pay just close the web and open the advertising firm…do not begging for upgrade and promising people with this numbers…if it is not a real money…

Please refer to all complain…
Look at all the complain…………

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9353&page=2&pp=15

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=53384#post53384


Account #28532 details: Current server time is : 8:33:30 PM
Name: rinadina75 Edit Name
E-mail: rinadina75@yahoo.com Status : Not receiving daily newsletter Edit E-mail
Password: ******** Edit Password
Account: $30.00 Membership Level (Rate: 0.9 Allow minimized: Yes) Upgrade Earnings
Account credits: 6043.79 Allocate Credits
Account Cash: $17.41 Paid today : yes Current daily earn : $0.6 Upgrade Earnings
Status: You have surfed 100 sites today Expires in 138 daysYou have been paid for 47 days surfing Total surfing earn : $27
Account Info: Currently stormpay payout (admin@streamyxonline.com) Can also be compounded Account History
Payout Status: Your cashout has been receivedYou have been paid a total of $0 as of Sunday the 10th

Look at all the complain…………

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9353&page=2&pp=15

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=53384#post53384




Reply by You
10 Jul 2005 22:49 You have been paid for 47 days surfing Total surfing earn : $27

ive earn nothing?????

Reply by You
10 Jul 2005 22:51 just asking for my capital....ill be very careful for next time...hopefully as a newbie u could help me with this...thanks

Reply by Merchant
11 Jul 2005 01:13 im not refunding you are not owed anything. ive had so many phony upgrades and lost so much from members purchasing 1000.00 upgrades then stormpay refunding them and still charging me 69.88 for the 1000.00 that was in my acoount for less than 1 hour. now you complain im a scam give me a break. you got your advertising credits and the credit plan

Reply by You
11 Jul 2005 01:34 $20-30 compare to $1000.00 is it to many to ask for???

Reply by You
11 Jul 2005 01:56 u need to ask yourself why people asking for refund???they even much more money in studiotraffic/4daily.com and others hyip but they dont ask for refund....
1. u dont reply the email members sending to you...
2.how about my cashout???its already amonth...until now no sign of it in my account processor??are u putiing the money in or keep quiet???people are waiting and you have a responsible to do...than they will not ask for refund....
stormpay should see about this issue....
u deducted from 2 daily account the money...and not goes to payment processor account...where is teh money goes ...is it just disappered???

Reply by You
11 Jul 2005 01:59 just pay back my money (iam not asking more -no need to pay me 2% for the surfing( u cant pay anyway) and i ll leave quietly....

Reply by Merchant
11 Jul 2005 11:06 i will refund you because i want too not because stormpay or any other reason. i just tired seeing these whining messages on my stormpay always a mooch lookjing for mmore than they should get. heres your 20.00 now good bye

Resolved by StormPay
11 Jul 2005 11:07 Payment refund initiated by Vendor.

[TonyTheTiger]

Don't waste your time, I have been trying to get paid for 2 months now. Payday comes and goes and no payment is ever made. They never reply to any support mails either.... the classic sign of A SCAM SITE.

[Dee4]

I just wanted a quick moan about 2Daily.com I have been a member of this site for about four months and have upgraded my account through stormpay, I then compounded my earnings and expected a pay out last month of $40 but no payment came, I carried on surfing and have earned and extra $40 and requested the payout again this month. Still no payment came.

I then got an email from support@2daily saying their account at stormpay had been suspended so I emailed them and asked if i would get the earnings due to me, but had no reply, so I logged into my stormpay account and made a claim.
I got an email this morning from Stormpay saying that 2Daily.com had no funds in their account and that stormpay could not refund my upgrade money.

Yet there is still the stormpay button on 2Daily.com and you can still autosurf on the site. Surely there should have been a notice put on the site to say they were no longer taking money through stormpayand had closed their account with stormpay.
I am now doubtful I will get my earnings from them, so I just thought I'd ask if anyone else hads had this problem.

These are the emails I got one from 2Daily.com :-

2DAILY HAS LOST THERE ACCOUNT AT STORMPAY. ITS been
suspended probaly due to the fact I was irate at there way
of keeping fees on money never recieved. Regardless I ask
you to seek refunds from them.

Due to this chain of events 2daily ids finacially unable
to make payouts. And ive read so much at the forum its
really saddens me. I think members like Elsie down in africa
who has throat cancer and all the poor members trying to
make a little extra for help support there families.
I have told you 4 daily was in trouble and ipay me now for a few months i was
told dont say anything or i would lose my account. well im tell
now they dont pay. and at this point they have

i think im too upset to write this email now ive let too
many people down.

please post at forum you got suggestions i hope jodi will
keep it opened. i am almost ready for complete breakdown
i will get back too you soon right now i got to try and
deal with the failure ive caused you and me.


Mike

This just sounds like an excuse to me as the next email i got was from Stormpay :-

Closed by StormPay16 Jul 2005 22:11

Thank you for allowing us to process your claim. StormPay takes seriously your complaints. After completing our investigation we have determined that the merchant you paid should be sanctioned and suspended from transacting any further business through StormPay. We have terminated their StormPay account. Your request to be reimbursed has been forwarded to our Risk Management team for review. Unfortunately, there are no funds remaining in the merchant's account. StormPay will attempt to recover funds by using an outside collection agency but cannot guarantee success. If the funds are recovered from the merchant, your StormPay account will be reimbursed.
Rest assured that we are doing everything within our powers to recover these funds including contacting the authorities if necessary.
We regret these circumstances but urge you not to allow this situation to deter you in your future on-line transacting. We will strive to make StormPay the safest and securest on-line payment processing system available.
If we are successful in recovering funds we will make direct contact with you

What really gets me is that 2daily is stillrunning and taking payments from people by Egold and Moneybookers, this site should be Boycotted as lots of people have already lost money by upgrading with stormpay and they are going to lose any money they pay through Egold and Moneybookers too.

[TonyTheTiger]

Here's a word of advice that you can use so that you are not taken in by scam sites like this one.
DO NOT upgrade in programs right when you sign up. Use your free sign up bonus and reach payout that way. It might take a while, but at least you will not lose any of YOUR money, and you'll find out if it's a paying site just by using the bonus. That's what I did with this site. I reached payout just with the sign up bonus, he never paid, nor does he ever plan to it looks like, so I did not lose any of my money and I got a few referrals into other programs at the same time.

[TheEasyMoney]

2daily is just another scam, like 5daily, they stopped paying long time ago, but People are still buying this... :\

[Tmarie99]

No offense, but anyone who endorses HYIPs really isn't someone I would take business advice from. Nor would I place too much trust in the opinions of one who would do that.