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TishaReina
14th April 2005, 20:29
Jay's brother inlaw, Sean, took members' personal information from old Jay's Paid Email backups, and signed up over 15,000 members into his new email site Time4Emails. Not only did he enter my address, payment info, but chose my interests as well. Of course, Sean = Seansco, is mine and others' upline.
Please take a look at boycotting this site.
Thank you.
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kezree
15th April 2005, 07:14
I got this email too this morning and let me tell you I am NOT a happy camper. How dare he use an old data base and sign everyone up under himself!!!!!! :!:
freebiesite
15th April 2005, 08:45
Just a question...there is a person who is calling himself jaydilla..is he connected to this?? I can not figure why anyone would want to call themselves after Jay..
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Secondly...Tisha...I was given a link to where you adamantly stated that this forum does not hastily or easily put peeps on the watch list..that they check etc..
but...in my case my site was removed from the watch list due to the fact that the complaints were 1) proven to be false and 2) others were not backed up, suspicious call all said same thing that was proven to be false (ie, they said I "removed them from a forum" where i do not even have admin priv)
sooo...you may wish to correct your statements...in THIS CASE THE Complaints were proven to be false and lacking....
Beehive was taken off the watch list..
and no I did NOT enjoy being there 9 days...all the while knowing these complaints were bogus...pretty sad when a wm is not even notified, and when there is really no set way to "dispute" them..and NO info given as to what proof complainers need to give...
I am happy that Beehive was removed....but...
on my site, when I screw up I try to make it 'right"..give banner impressions, a free ad, a bonus to a member...an apology...but here ?? a backhanded "yeah we took you off'...really dissapointing too...
but then...I have learned to not expect much in ptr :(
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/edi...ditpost&p=47852
TishaReina says >>> "Sites aren't put on the Watch or Boycott list because of cheap shots by members. There are verification procedures they go through before taking those steps. If people have ideas on how to make the process better, there is a thread over there where people can post, debate, praise or trash the ideas.
If someone is on the Watch or Boycott list, there IS a good reason for it. Before going off either list, a site owner has to show that the situation has changed, and is maintaining good standing in payouts etc. "<<<
Maybe YOU will be a big enough person to correct your erroneous post that cheap shots dont get taken here...that these verification procedures work...check the watch list...BeeHiveMail was removed..
yet your post makes it seem like I "deserved' this...I hope you are big enough to correct this post you made...thanks in advance
kezree
15th April 2005, 10:50
For goodness sake this thread isn't about your proggy.....surely you could have sent a PM to the person concerned instead of what you wrote.
This thread is about being signed up to a program that people never signed up for in the first place.
Anyway I don't believe the person posting as "jaydilla" is connected with any of the "Jays" empire . Sean, I think thats his name, who is related to Jay has started a new site and used what is believed to be and old back up from one of Jays programs and signed everybody on that backup up to his new site....without their permission. There are a few forums that have similar threads running about this program and what has been done.
kglaser
15th April 2005, 19:49
What is most galling, I think, about the whole thing is that this Sean person apparently can't understand why people are upset and doesn't think it's a big deal--either that or he's pretending it's no big deal, and for me, either one spells a very bad candidate to be running a business (yes, "even" PTR).
Reallybarb
15th April 2005, 23:52
You've got to give the "guy" credit he must be a very fast learner, he figured out where to find and how to access the data base, and what GPTR is and that "he" might be able to profit from it, where the forums are and how to flim flam on the fly, heck "he" even figured out which host has the least.. gosh... I'm not really sure how to put what I think about choosing John Stilwell as a host but "he" sure picked the right one for the scam "he's" pulling . I may have been born at night but I wasn't born last night, just my opinion but why would a brother-in-law care about a failing GPTR program and why would "he" try to breathe life into it? I ain't buying it and I reported it as spam to every place a could think of.
seansco
16th April 2005, 19:06
I did not steal any info from jays.
I am moving jays-paidmail to a new domain -- http://www.time4emails.com -- Anyone who has took the time to read the email and the posts over at GPF or at jays forums or at time4emails.com forums would know that.
I have the authorization and the permission to be running jays and to the database and web site.
I am trying to give jays a 'clean start' so that people can start getting paid and one of the things that was suggested to me was to move to a different domain.
I have answered the questions of how and why I did it the way I did over at GPF so I am not going to spend the next 2 days going over the same stuff here.
I do not see any reason to 'boycott' my site. You are just hurting the members that have already been hurt enough by jays.
michaellaskey
16th April 2005, 20:38
You dont.. I think the plain fact that You transfered all that Data BEFORE you said... BOO.. To all the people that data belonged to.. And to put frosting on the cake.. You sent an Email to ALL them people that NEVER opted in to your OPT IN mailing list.. Yeah.. IMHO if Anyone desrves to be Boycotted.. It IS you :baaa:
I did not steal any info from jays.
I do not see any reason to 'boycott' my site. You are just hurting the members that have already been hurt enough by jays.
Rob
17th April 2005, 12:38
What interests me most is the message header in the e-mail:
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It would appear the site is hosted on jwshosting.com... which is owned by venomx. For those members who do not know venomx, take a look at this article, written in 2003 by GPTBoycott.Com: http://www.gptboycott.com/venomx/
If you wish to verify the owner of jwshosting is venomx, simply type "jwshosting venomx" into Google, and look at the results :) Alternatively... look at this post, showing venomx promoting his own company: http://www.freeforums.com/showpost.php?p=6518&postcount=54
By the way, venomx provides WhoIS data for jwshosting.com at http://whois.sc/topdollaremails.com. I'm not sure how real the address is, etc... judging by previous records.
Only a web host as crooked as John Stilwell could permit such illegalities...
Rob
michaellaskey
17th April 2005, 12:47
Just to add Confirmation that the Owner of JWShosting is Indeed Venomex, This taken from the Contact page on JWShosting..
CONTACT INFORMATION
Name: John Stilwell
Address: 434 East Maiden Street
Washington, PA 15301
E-Mail: sales@jwshosting.net
ICQ: 22382872
This can be publicly accessed here on this page,
http://jwshosting.com/contact.htm
So would therefore be publicly accessible information, Which is why I didnt see an issue posting this here. :)
What interests me most is the message header in the e-mail:
It would appear the site is hosted on jwshosting.com... which is owned by venomx. For those members who do not know venomx, take a look at this article, written in 2003 by GPTBoycott.Com: http://www.gptboycott.com/venomx/
If you wish to verify the owner of jwshosting is venomx, simply type "jwshosting venomx" into Google, and look at the results :) Alternatively... look at this post, showing venomx promoting his own company: http://www.freeforums.com/showpost.php?p=6518&postcount=54
By the way, venomx provides WhoIS data for jwshosting.com at http://whois.sc/topdollaremails.com. I'm not sure how real the address is, etc... judging by previous records.
Only a web host as crooked as John Stilwell could permit such illegalities...
Rob
AnI4AnI
17th April 2005, 14:09
I have the authorization and the permission to be running jays and to the database and web site.
You do not have authorization and permission from members who consider this nothing more than a second attempt at stealing from them. Someday the walls are going to come crashing in on the whole bunch of you pathetic scammers who will stop at nothing to think of ways to rob from people. You're no better than the ones who you complain about who invent cheat-bots. No better whatsoever. Nothing different from what they do and what you people do. Nothing at all. Sneaky and conniving, that's the main attributes necessary to categorize you.
When you purchase things using the money you conned from innocent victims, do you ever think how undeserving you are? Does it ever shame any of you to spend that money or have you convinced yourselves you are businessmen and that you actually earned that money making an honest living?
Think about the people you are stealing from. They have lives, bills, children. Use the effort you're putting into scamming them to go out and get a normal job and earn your money, will ya? Most of the memberbase you are using for your own gain has already given of their precious time for nothing more than to have it go up your in-law's nose. Now you're trying to use these people again, to re-victimize them. People like you disgust me. Go get a normal job.
Merlin2307
17th April 2005, 18:06
As a former member of several of Jay's paid email programs. I am glad I no longer have the address that was used in those programs. I lost alot of money with them and wouldn't give anyone relate to him or Sherry the time of day let alone more time involved in a program they are running......this program needs definate boycott..
seansco
18th April 2005, 08:48
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Think about the people you are stealing from. They have lives, bills, children. Use the effort you're putting into scamming them to go out and get a normal job and earn your money, will ya? Most of the memberbase you are using for your own gain has already given of their precious time for nothing more than to have it go up your in-law's nose. Now you're trying to use these people again, to re-victimize them. People like you disgust me. Go get a normal job.
I do have a normal job.
I am not trying to 'scam' anyone.
The way I look at it, and most current members feel this way too, is that jays stoled the money and left the site and the members 'for dead'. In the last 2 month people have been able to use the money owed to then by jay to advertise on jays. Moving to this new site is the next step in making these members a sistainable site that they can start getting paid from.
Be a relative of jay does not make me like him. Consider yourself lucky if all jay has done to you is steal 150 or so dollars. He has done much worse to family and friends (I am married to his sister).
Cut me some slack, remember I am not the one who started jays and stoled all the money.
Let the members of the new website decide with their memberships whether or not it should last. Payouts are going to be $5 to $10. If members get to that point and then don't get paid then boycott me. Till then, cut me some slack.
Rob
18th April 2005, 11:26
Cut you some slack?
You've already illegally transferred a member base from another program to your own - without permission.
Rob.
AnI4AnI
18th April 2005, 12:25
No, Seansco...HE'S lucky he never done anything more than steal $150 from me. Some of us don't just lie down and take whatever some psycho dishes out. Also, why didn't you just start your own site? Why are you fiddling with his disaster? I've been told by program owners that Jay has given them much (unsolicited) advice and pointers on how to cheat members. Sorry, but there's something fishy when you won't bother to just open your own site and I wouldn't trust anyone who has dealings with Jay.
Merlin2307
18th April 2005, 15:31
You want some slack cut? Then I would suggest this. Keep the database from the old program as a records only and if someone from the old database joins make the situation right by paying that individual the money owed in cash or advertising. It would make u the king of PTR and have people beating a path to your door to join don't you think? Don't take a database of old members list them under yourself and start sending out emails cuz there is only one word for that and it's SPAM. Unwanted email by anyone is spam by definition and email sent by a program that was non operational for many months meets that definition. You should have emailed the individuals to inform them that you were taking over the program and database and gave them an option to join or be deleted from the database. You were dead wrong in your actions and for that reason you should be boycotted from the beginning.
seansco
18th April 2005, 17:15
You should have emailed the individuals to inform them that you were taking over the program and database and gave them an option to join or be deleted from the database.
:!: :!: :!: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA... Hey, wait a sec... That's what the 1 email that I sent out was for!!!
seansco
18th April 2005, 17:19
Cut you some slack?
You've already illegally transferred a member base from another program to your own - without permission.
Rob.
Who should I ask permission?
The members? That's is what the email I sent out is doing?
The original site's admin? That is me.
freebiesite
18th April 2005, 17:39
You know...if my brother in law was a child molestor, I would not only disown him I would disown my sister if she did not disown him
I would never "take over' anything to do with any child molestor
I would not want jaydillars dirty site, his dirty forum, his dirty money,nothing
what is the deal....do you send the jerk cigarette and candy money to the slammer for use of his old database of ripped off people??
I dont know how anyone with any shred of integrity could even mess with this site....IF I was owed money by it I wouldnt even want Jaydillars dirty money....
You know, I live in Florida where all the fruits and nuts come rolling in..
our lazy despicable dfc cant find 1800 sex offenders who are supposed to be registered...
just the latest horrors...a beautiful 9 year old kidnapped by a perv, held in his trailer..WHICH HE SHARED WITH HIS SISTER, HER BF AND HER KID>...this horrible piece of junk not only abused this angel for days, he apparently killed her by burying her alive....OMG !!!! but his "brother in law" did nothing
and just this weekend?? a sweet young girl of 13 was choked to death by a convicted sex offender, former boyfriend of her sleazy mother...her brother was out partying...so was mom....her 'family" did not even bother to report her missing, her minister did
I have been crying for these angels, and to even see the name JayDillar makes me want to puke...JMO anyone who has a friend or relative who is a sex offender should disown them, help the courts put them away forever...or else go rot with them...
I would not want jays dirty money...I would not want anything to do with it...If u have any integrity you would not even open this site JMO>>>I can say right now...I will never run an ad for you or any site connected to jaydillar
and anyone who claims his legal problems have "nothing to do with ptr" is just as bad as the sister/brother in law/niece of the fiend who killed little Jessica Lundsford or the brother and slut mother of poor Sarah Lunde...
time to get real... I have zero zero zero sympathy for monsters.
this is far beyond the petty world of ptr
AnI4AnI
18th April 2005, 18:27
Why didn't you just start your own site, Seansco? If you don't want anything to do with him, why have you paralled yourself to him? You're not talking to a handful of dummies....many people have learned the hard way over the past couple years just how low some will go. If you had absolutely no intention to defraud anyone, if you wanted to run an honest business then you wouldn't have done the things you've done. We got your number. Please don't insult our intelligence by feebly attempting to convince us there is virtue in your actions.
seansco
18th April 2005, 21:35
You know...if my brother in law was a child molestor, I would not only disown him I would disown my sister if she did not disown him
His sister has dis-owned him. And you better becareful what you say about my wife. Me starting new PTR site has nothing to do with the crap you are talking about and if you want to start impling anything you better have something to back it up with. You're just getting rude and I don't like the implied statements you are making.
Watch it...
freebiesite
18th April 2005, 22:16
His sister has dis-owned him. And you better becareful what you say about my wife. Me starting new PTR site has nothing to do with the crap you are talking about and if you want to start impling anything you better have something to back it up with. You're just getting rude and I don't like the implied statements you are making.
Watch it...
Oh wow...I am really scared...NOT
I'll say it again...anyone with a sense of decency would not want to even involve themselves with a site that was formerly owned by a child molester...oh yeah, among his various charges...
some things are better left alone....I find it really funny that you would have access to his database....or even know how to use it....the whole thing just stinks....I dont see WHY you think anyone would be happy to be reminded of the whole fiasco...that whole site/situation left a bad taste ...many people have bad feelings towards it..
I dont see how you can possibly think you can make a go of it...like others said, you could have started your own site...and FYI...it would have been smart to not even mention you have any connection to jaydillar
freecashspace
18th April 2005, 23:42
Looks like you've just been threatened, Freebie.
I think the best bet for people who were SPAMMED by this guy would be to make a complaint to his host, and then when VenomX does nothing about it, report him and jwshosting to his host, ServInt Internet Services (servint.com).
There was an article at Yahoo! News the other day about prisoners running online scams, harassing their victims, looking for penpals and all sorts of other things on the Net, even without having direct access.
Here's a link to the article for anybody who's interested:
Inmates in U.S. using intermediaries to escape into Internet (http://beta.news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20050416/ca_pr_on_tc/us_internet_inmates/nc:737)
Cheers,
Wil
michaellaskey
19th April 2005, 08:50
LMAO!!! Sean you just get worse as the days go by... :\
Watch it...
seansco
21st April 2005, 15:17
Just a FYI to all the un-friendlies over here.
I did cancel the accounts all the users that have not 'opted in' to time4emails.com.
Don't pat yourselves on the back tho, nothing to do with you guys...
kglaser
22nd April 2005, 10:14
Gosh, sean, you're a real prince.
Guess we should all be real grateful and repent now, huh?
What a guy! :baaa: :stupid: :baaa:
seansco
23rd April 2005, 09:39
Gosh, sean, you're a real prince.
Guess we should all be real grateful and repent now, huh?
What a guy! :baaa: :stupid: :baaa:
Apology accepted!
michaellaskey
23rd April 2005, 09:41
:stupid: What a piece of GARBAGE!!!
Apology accepted!
AnI4AnI
23rd April 2005, 10:19
What gave you the impression anyone would welcome someone using Jay's database with open arms, Seansco? We can be very friendly, warm and welcoming to those who aren't out to use us, lie to us, profit from us and generally rip us off. Truthfully, I think you'd be better off scrapping this whole thing and going out and getting a normal job.
seansco
24th April 2005, 08:18
Well, URL Edited By Rob - Don't Post Referral URLs in Posts is here to stay. The issues that started this thread has been resolved.
There is a $10 referral contest going and ads are 30% off till May 1st. You are all welcome to join and take part.
kglaser
24th April 2005, 11:34
Apology accepted!
You know, you really are starting to remind me of Jay.
You certainly have his charm and way with people.
cajunlady
24th April 2005, 15:46
Well, URL Edited in Quoted Post is here to stay. The issues that started this thread has been resolved.
There is a $10 referral contest going and ads are 30% off till May 1st. You are all welcome to join and take part.
Not even Bill Gates has enough money to entice me to join this program. You see Sean, there's still a lot of people who have scruples and who really don't want to have anything to do with a sneaky, underhanded WM OR convicted felons.
I'm afraid pulling your hand out of the cookie jar after you swiped several thousand cookies doesn't make everything just peachy keen.
Reallybarb
24th April 2005, 21:17
I still don't believe this is a newbie starting up a site. The paypal account comes back as payments@jaydillar.com why in the world would anyone who was starting up a new program keep the jaydillar name attached to thier paypal account? Answer anyone ?
michaellaskey
24th April 2005, 21:56
Thats a real good Question Barb.. One that I'm sure Sean will be here to answer with some B.S story that everyone will be expected to just believe :baaa: :hehe:
I still don't believe this is a newbie starting up a site. The paypal account comes back as payments@jaydillar.com why in the world would anyone who was starting up a new program keep the jaydillar name attached to thier paypal account? Answer anyone ?
kezree
25th April 2005, 02:52
What really makes things interesting is if he is using payments@jaydillar.com surely that account would have to be in Jays name.....I wonder if PayPal knows that account is that of a convicted felon and still being used????
seansco
25th April 2005, 08:55
I still don't believe this is a newbie starting up a site. The paypal account comes back as payments@jaydillar.com why in the world would anyone who was starting up a new program keep the jaydillar name attached to thier paypal account? Answer anyone ?
Thanks for reminding me to get this switched over... You can check it now it you want.
Reallybarb
25th April 2005, 11:31
You can change whatever you want I think most of us know exactly who is who in this mess and for me, I'm done with you. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me..
AnI4AnI
25th April 2005, 12:27
I've never seen such a bunch of pathetic cowards as those online and more precisely in this industry who put so much time and effort into stealing from so many people who are needy and looking for ways to supplement their meager income, or to feed their children and keep roofs over their heads. Even a bank robber has the guts to put their lives on the line. I can't believe you and your in-laws choose to use what few brain cells you have on ways to deceive and harm people.
If you never receive the karma you deserve in this lifetime, I certainly hope you don't bump into any entities with my sense of justice in the next.
seansco
25th April 2005, 12:31
You can change whatever you want I think most of us know exactly who is who in this mess and for me, I'm done with you. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me..
Well Barb, I am sorry to hear that. You know, it is a shame that this site has the influence that it does when most of all this is hear-say, rumor mongering, and venting on my site because you-all have been burned by jays or you just like to complain.
The only questionable thing that I have done is to copy jays db to the new site. I have stated the reason that I have done this over at GPF if I have not done so here also. Whether you-all approve of and/or believe this reason is up to you.
Since then I have removed the members that did not 'opt-in' (repented) and have now spent a lot of time 're-adding' these people as they email me back wanting to be members (over 300 this weekend). All this has done is waist my time and cause a hassle for members (which is one of the things I was trying to avoid by copying the db).
Any objective person with a cool head is going to see that if I have done anything wrong I have made an attempt to rectify it. They are also going to see that maybe they should think twice before believing any of the opinions of the :laugh: 'contributor' :hehe: to this site because of the unfounded accusations, ranting and raving. The unproven speculations here will push this forum into irrelevancy if they continue.
I may be a new-bee to the GPTR world but I sure have got an education here!
I also apologize for my sarcastic attitude towards everyone here but gosh I have no idea where you-all get some of the stuff you come up with!
AnI4AnI
25th April 2005, 13:29
Any objective person with a cool head who isn't familiar with the fiasco and how Jay was using everyone all along to support his cocaine and drinking habits, as well as several others I'm sure, will take a moment or two to reflect on why numerous "contributers" to this et al forums are trying to warn them to stay away. They will take the time to research appropriate threads and discover the truth. Any objective person with a cool head will recognize that insulting those who have been ripped off by your in-law is about as unprofessional as using bubble wrap for window dressings.
Seansco, even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt, do you understand that Jay had a reputation for trying to teach other program owners how to cheat members? How to scramble the books and so on? Maybe in an ideal world you'd be innocent until proven guilty but many of us think he's giving you pointers and we don't want newbies getting ripped off the way we did. Maybe if you could stop with the defensive posture and do and say things to convince others you have honorable intentions, you might get somewhere but as it is all I've seen is cockiness and apathy for his victims.
seansco
25th April 2005, 14:09
Any objective person with a cool head will recognize that insulting those who have been ripped off by your in-law is about as unprofessional as using bubble wrap for window dressings.
If we scroll back a bit I think we will see the insults originated from here...
Maybe if you could stop with the defensive posture and do and say things to convince others you have honorable intentions, you might get somewhere but as it is all I've seen is cockiness and apathy for his victims.
Do you mean like removing all the non 'opt-in' members? If you ask most of the current members they are happy with what is going on.
LET THE PERSON WHO I have ripped off or wronged come forward and complain. I will do my best to make it up to them.
If anyone would like to have an intelligent conversation about all this I am open, but I'm not going to make nice while I am being called a child molester...
freebiesite
25th April 2005, 16:07
NO one called YOU a child molester....
just your brother in law..
yipppeee.. a new law going thru in Florida...25 min to life sentence for any pervert who molests a child under 12, with lifetime gsp monitoring IF they ever let their sorry butts out of prison...yipppeee
this will be Jessica's Law, named for the angel who was killed...buried alive in a garbage bag...grrrrr...by a perverted monstor who had skipped out of registering..a convicted felon
NOW,, IF you said you were starting a site to raise money for victims of these monsters< I might say...hmm..ok...you could post screen shots...like I did with the tsunami donations my members made...and post reciepts from your donations...and I "matched" the donations my members made, you and the rest of Jay's family might want to do that???
however, to just open a website like this?? Ugggghh....
I do question...how would a "brother in law" know how to operate a site?? did jay give passwords and directions from prison?? whose computer did this database rest on while it was dormant?? why the jaydillar paypal?? the way paypal works..how would you even have access to the account?? UNless Jay himself gave you the password??
Having a cc database sitting around on a computer would mean nothing to the average person...who are you?? How do you suddenly "know" how to operate a site?? Is Jay "directing" and teaching from prison?? Or...are we sure he is still there?? Lots of pansy butt states let these jerks out sooner than you think cause of 'overcrowding" or let them out on house arrest
..here in florida we have had bunches of them get out much sooner than people think they are supposed to be monitored but not usually..now our new Jessica's Law these jerks go away for 25 plus LOL> good..
but really sean...I do wonder...are you doing this to raise money for abused victims of pervs?? Or just for personal gain? does Jay get anything from it?? How did Jay give you the info on the database to do this??
are you prepared too when people level spam charges against you and make it stick? and..with the networks focusiing on these jerks, we had 2 beautiful young girls killed in florida recently and it is on fox news a lot, I wonder if fox news would be interested in the saga of a convicted child molester..Jay..who somehow still has his old online customers being "contacted"???? see...lot's of people feel the way I do....lay down with dogs, get up with fleas..
however..I simply love dogs so I dont really like that old saying...so let's say, use part of a child molesters biz, get up stinking :)
JMO of course, no need to threaten me again
hope to see ya on Greta Van Sustern or Bill O'Reily
seansco
25th April 2005, 16:31
freebiesite,
If you would like to ask me a question without spewing "child molester" facts and news through out it I will answer. Otherwise I will let your own ranting be the answers to your questions.
Just for the record, I think child molesting is wrong. I think people who are child molesters should be in jail. Jay is in jail because he deserves to be. I do not speak to him. He is not directing me on how to run this site.
I have figured out how cash crusader and GPTR in general works on my own from the web and the helpful forum admin's and program owners. payments@jaydillar.com is am email and paypal account that I created. All jays CC stuff was @jays-paidmail.com.
I think that answers all of the questions in that 'rant-post' and that is the last 'rant-post' I will answer. If you want to rant on child molesting and molesters in general do it in a forum for that. All you are doing is trying to imply that I in some way condone it or take part in it and that is NOT SO and making yourself sound like a raving lunatic.
If whoever is in charge here has some question to ask me related to if my site will be put on the boycott list please ask them now. Otherwise this is a waste of everyone's time.
AnI4AnI
25th April 2005, 16:32
Actually, I'd like to see these two battle it out with Nancy Grace.
seansco
25th April 2005, 16:36
Actually, I'd like to see these two battle it out with Nancy Grace.
Let freebeesite rant on Michael Jackson for a while... http://www.michaeljackson.com/
AnI4AnI
25th April 2005, 18:51
I meant, let you and Jay battle it out with Nancy Grace, not you and Freebie. I happen to agree with her about most everything she posted. You really expect everyone to believe you're acting on your own with this, huh? He must be telling you how gullible we all are. I bet he's having a real knee-slapping laugh in his cell and can hardly write down your lessons. So, how did you get into his Paypal account and does Paypal know he's a convicted felon and you're using his account?
Merlin2307
25th April 2005, 19:04
Interesting website from an advertiser point of view sean,but just a good business sense matter shows you won't last long on solo ad rates cuz if you do the math you deep in do do. Also interesting site demographics to show 1 U.S. member 398 Canadians and the rest of your 930 members come from various other foreign countries. Having problems getting US members? Wonder why? I still think what looks like a crook, acts like a crook and talks like a crook is still a stinky crook. Just my opinion and time will tell if I am right or wrong and until proven wrong I say you belong on the watch list or boycotted list.
seansco
25th April 2005, 20:04
I meant, let you and Jay battle it out with Nancy Grace, not you and Freebie. I happen to agree with her about most everything she posted. You really expect everyone to believe you're acting on your own with this, huh? He must be telling you how gullible we all are. I bet he's having a real knee-slapping laugh in his cell and can hardly write down your lessons. So, how did you get into his Paypal account and does Paypal know he's a convicted felon and you're using his account?
As I stated before I do not have access, nor have I used 'his' paypal account. All the paypal accounts I have use have been created by me.
seansco
25th April 2005, 20:12
Interesting website from an advertiser point of view sean,but just a good business sense matter shows you won't last long on solo ad rates cuz if you do the math you deep in do do. Also interesting site demographics to show 1 U.S. member 398 Canadians and the rest of your 930 members come from various other foreign countries. Having problems getting US members? Wonder why? I still think what looks like a crook, acts like a crook and talks like a crook is still a stinky crook. Just my opinion and time will tell if I am right or wrong and until proven wrong I say you belong on the watch list or boycotted list.
Like most of the information here, yours is wrong too. There are 369 of the 900ish and growing members that are from the US. As for business, my solo ads rates are on a dynamic scale via a percentage that I have set. So as the membership grows, the fee goes up.
Are we just nit-picking now or what?
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