AYS Boycotted!

[Rob]

AllYouSubmitters has been boycotted!

http://www.gptboycott.com/programs/programs.php?program=AllYouSubmitters

Regards,
GPTBoycott.Com.

[bafungule]

I have been a member of AYS for I guess it's almost 2yrs-With my 1st $50. I bought an executive membership (WOW!! has soon as I pressed the redemption button-the money was gone!!) Then my next $50. I requested redemption-figured since I already was an "EXECUTIVE" member, they'd support me & send my $. Not yet, then one day I accidently hit a cheat link-wasn't paying attention (my fault- I accept responsibilty) fine was immediately deducted from my acct. Ok, back to my redemption (check) not yet. Sent several e-mails. no response no check not yet. Finally I got fed up & sent them an email expressing how furious I was with their firm & that I hoped they did not treat others as shabbily has they did me. They finally responded after 2 years of ignoring me & told me that harrassment would not be tolerated. HARASSMENT??? They are NUTS!! DO NOT JOIN DO NOT JOIN AYS!!!

[wagdoll]

I thought boycott complaints were to be anonymous?

What if the site retaliates against complainants who are still in the program but have submitted a complaint?

I would also be concerned that there are not only usernames attached to the complaints but also inside the complaints and even worse people have put their email addresses in there and they don't appear to have been edited in any way.

I don't think these people realised this information would be made public in this manner...

[AnI4AnI]

I thought boycott complaints were to be anonymous?

I don't think these people realised this information would be made public in this manner...

I thought so, too. I wouldn't have put my info otherwise.

[sophieca]

I found this in the 'submit a program' page :

Revision - August 26, 2004: We are aware that some direputable companies are threatening their members with disciplinary action if they publicly attack their business ethics. For this purpose, GPTBoycott will allow pseudonyms to be used as the name on a submission form, but only if a valid e-mail address is given so we may contact complainants privately

Also, if you have a look at the other boycotted sites, the complainers infos are listed just the same.

[AnI4AnI]

Well, apparently lots of people must have missed that Sophie. It would still be good not to post people's names. User names are one thing...and even first names but it isn't right to have people's full names posted.

[sophieca]

Well, apparently lots of people must have missed that Sophie. It would still be good not to post people's names. User names are one thing...and even first names but it isn't right to have people's full names posted.

I don't understand it, when someone fills in a complaint like that, they would read the directions first to make sure they do all correctly and know what the requirements are, not ?
It is posted just above the form and you can even use a pseudonym if you want to ... so, if you want to remain anonymous, don't give your name and it won't be posted and the ones wanting to complaint openly with their name publically given can do so too ... there is a choice available for everyone's different desire imho.

[AnI4AnI]

Yep, like I said, apparently some people missed that, Sophie. Some people who have even been mods here missed it or maybe they weren't quite sure their complaints would be taken seriously, who knows? Last time the boycott happened, every little thing was nit-picked to death. They wanted every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed. Is it any wonder people may have wanted to do things right after that? My point is that people's real names should not have been posted. What is so difficult about understanding that request?

[lil crusader]

How do you know those are really their names? One of those complaints is mine, but it doesn't have my real name on it.

In addition to being on the actual submission form, the subject of using a pseudonym was discussed in a thread both here and on GPF over the summer.

[cybertongue]

I didn't see my name or my complaint listed... :\

[lil crusader]

Only one of mine was there too. The one not there was similar to a lot of others though, so that's probably why.

[kglaser]

Well, it is very good to see AYS on the boycott list at last.

[paranormal]

I'll add a big THANKS for the boycott. It's good to see that the complaints received this time were more substantial ones that should be harder to brush off. I don't foresee a mass protest of this boycott coming.

The write-up this site did on the boycott looks pretty good, too. Everything was summed up nicely.

[freebiesite]

I'll add a big THANKS for the boycott. It's good to see that the complaints received this time were more substantial ones that should be harder to brush off. I don't foresee a mass protest of this boycott coming.

The write-up this site did on the boycott looks pretty good, too. Everything was summed up nicely.

Wow...I really agree....for those who have real name there, I am sure the mods/admins here will help...

Kudos for a good job on this...I agree with Para that the litany of complaints had validity...and while many did have the same sorry experiences, there were a large variety..even more shame on ays

For instance, I had not heard about sharon posting people's info on their forum, I knew of a few cases, but from reading this it looks like more...
and to see the same patterns of "deleted accounts" back in 2003....owww..

a couple really sad ones stood out to me...the gal who put herself on vacation at the death of her mom, going thru the funeral, coming back when she felt well enough I guess...to find ays deleted her....OMG...

another just made me get weepy too..."Merle"...a 60 year old woman with webtv...deleted and accused of cheating....and finding herself posted in public by "some man I never met named Linder"....in reading her complaint one feels the sadness and shame that honest people have been subjected to thanks to ays....

Change the names, but please don't change these stories....they are a perfect example of how NOT to treat your members/customers

On a final note...I wish I could get back on the former public part of their forum where they were chatting about candles a lot...one gal was saying how she wanted to buy more but had to think of her kids/christmas shopping etc...

and sharon posted..? something like "We have to induldge ourselves, we are worth it, we have to treat ourselves to some luxuries" etc...something like that..
all I could think of was Marie Antoinette "Let them eat Cake" LOL

Just think how many kids might have had an extra toy from the money that was due since dec 2003...think how many people on a tight budget might have been able to "indulge themselves" as sharon enjoys doing...yummy candles, a facial or pedicure, buying goodies at sephora.com or drugstore.com....a nice haircut....pet treats....some nice new kitchen appliance or new goodie...whatever..... $50 would have been nice for them

"induldge yourself" my irish u know what LOL>> yeah...

once again..thanks for the boycott..and I do hope the names can be blacked out...

one thought...maybe black out all names and say "names on file if verification needed"...just in case linder wants to see?? JMO

[AnI4AnI]

Yeah, well they should've invested all those thousands of dollars they took for "admin payroll" into something they could hawk at the local pawn shop. Don't think they'll get much for used candles, though.

The party's over Linder and Sharon. Your groupies aren't going to get you out of this one.

[paranormal]

Wow...I really agree....for those who have real name there, I am sure the mods/admins here will help...

Kudos for a good job on this...I agree with Para that the litany of complaints had validity...and while many did have the same sorry experiences, there were a large variety..even more shame on ays



I agree, it's really pretty sickening when you see it summed up. Even more sickening is the example you mentioned about Sharon going on about indulging ourselves and all the goodies she's been buying. Sure, she's buying them, she's getting paid. That really rubs salt in the wounds of the people who have been waiting over a year for THEIR money so maybe THEY could buy themselves a little something for a change. It just downright stinks.

[Rob]

I'd like to think we carried this boycott out as responsibly as we could.

While the mention of names may indeed cause problems for some members - we do have provisions laid out (thanks for pointing them out Sophie!) for those members who wish their identity to be hidden.

I have changed one real name to a username on request for fear of reprisals already, and can only hope that complainants review current active boycotts, and the text on the submission page before making future complaints, so they know what to expect :)

Rob

[AnI4AnI]

Thanks, Rob but it isn't necessarily a fear of reprisals, identity theft is also a consideration. I think some people read it but don't realize their full names will be posted. I remember reading it but thought for verification purposes, GPTB needed the name...didn't realize it would be posted.

[kglaser]

Well, you can keep my name on there...I'm proud to state my opinion about this disgrace and my name is all over the place already anyway.

[lil crusader]

For instance, I had not heard about sharon posting people's info on their forum, I knew of a few cases, but from reading this it looks like more...

Unfortunately that was standard operating procedure for awhile - when Sharon deleted people, she then posted a lot of personal info, allegedly as a deterrent to future offenders. (Kind of like ''This is what I'll do to you if I catch you doing anything wrong" type attitude.) Of course this only happened after the individuals were "safely" ousted from the forum so that they had no idea their personal information was being made available to anyone else on the Forum who cared to see it.

Fortunately, AYS Forum's host was not at all pleased to find out this blatant violation of privacy was happening on one of their hosted sites and put an immediate stop to it as soon as they were made aware of the situation.

[moniopt]

Well, my name has been submitted with the complaint and I could care less.

I want AYS to know that I am one of the people that helped get them boycotted.

Signed,

Dirk ;)

[Meroveus]

Well, I submitted at least one of my complaints prior to August 2004, and I had no idea my complaint would be posted in its entirery. I certainly wouldn't have included my AYS username if I had known it would be posted, because that makes it easy for Linder to match it up to my personal info. I'd like my username edited out, as it was only provided for GPTB to research the complaints.

[bellestraker]

" back in 2003....owww..

a couple really sad ones stood out to me...the gal who put herself on vacation at the death of her mom, going thru the funeral, coming back when she felt well enough I guess...to find ays deleted her....OMG...

another just made me get weepy too..."Merle"...a 60 year old woman with webtv...deleted and accused of cheating....and finding herself posted in public by "some man I never met named Linder"....in reading her complaint one feels the sadness and shame that honest people have been subjected to thanks to ays....

Change the names, but please don't change these stories....they are a perfect example of how NOT to treat your members/customers

JMO



I am betting that the majority in here know the real story regarding "Merle" and not one of you have the jam to speak up.

This was not an isolated incident but an ongoing and very filthy series"

First comes Babyam sp?spouting filth and knowing very well who Linder is. then her mother comes in nicely to explain that her daughter is distressed etc.aand didnt mean to do it.
When that doesnt work the "mother " becomes abusive beyond reason...Then comes another person to curse and swear
and the bottom line...Later on Up pops Merle who says his account was hacked.

Did gptb really check this out. Or is this another good story that we dont want to destroy with the truth.

Strange they all wrote the same, used the same expressions and this was not one or two peoples opinions. This was the opinion of many over a period of time and crossing various forums.

Many of the complaints are valid and I am not trying to say they are even unwarranted but to have a group sit here in silence over the largest one when many know the truthis beyond sickening.

I once again state as I have from the beginning. If the truth is bad...why does so much bull have to be added.

Belle

[paranormal]

I am betting that the majority in here know the real story regarding "Merle" and not one of you have the jam to speak up.

This was not an isolated incident but an ongoing and very filthy series"



I don't remember the incident - either version of it. I could go search the forum for it, but since they've locked everything down at their forum not everyone CAN go look or verify what the story is. They can take the word of the person who posted the complaint, or yours.

Did they prove it was one person doing all the posting or is it just conjecture? I mean, since you're asking about validation...

[AnI4AnI]

I guess it never occurred to you, Belle that most of the ones who lose their temper have been waiting for the money they earned for months on end. I'm sure they were patient for long periods of time, hoping and waiting....and waiting and hoping....week after week and month after month. Ays pushed these people to their limits then blamed them for speaking up....and you have the nerve to tell us WE are sickening??? Yeah, ok...whatever.

[moniopt]

Many of the complaints are valid and I am not trying to say they are even unwarranted but to have a group sit here in silence over the largest one when many know the truthis beyond sickening.
Belle

Who's truth? Linder's truth??

You mean you still believe that Linder has integrity?? Yeah, right! :baaa:

I'll tell you what is sickening, but I will be nice as it would probably be edited anyway.

[Rob]

I'll tell you what is sickening, but I will be nice as it would probably be edited anyway.

Good call ;)

[Shelly]

Good call ;)


lol :laugh: :p :laugh:

[Dawn Michelle]

Now maybe we can focus on all the other programs that are taking a long time to pay.

[Rob]

For sure...

Infact with enhancements to our Watch List now taking place, as well as infrastructural improvements to the way boycotts are processed - we should be able to spend less time doing manual work - and more time sifting through complaints.

So long as you guys continue to let us know when you've been badly treated - we can get to work on it :)

Rob