Email Pays U?

[almitra]

Ya'll I am new here and have been a member of Email Pays U for a couple years, but have never gotten enough emails to make payout. All I ever get to earn cash is the daily click thru page with seven .05 cent clicks...gonna take me forever to earn the $39.99 payout at this rate...LOL!!! I am at $26 right now. Is this site a paying one at all? Anyone have any experience with them?
Also, I got burned bad with CosmicWealth......they don't pay and won't answer emails either. ((sigh))

[tom6]

Almitra, I'm with you. E-mailpaysu is horrid. It was the first ptr I joined
years ago. And yes, still no payout. They simply don't send any mail.
And as far as the blinking pennies, I could get more money recycling a beer
can. Don't join this site. Really, it sucks.

[ScammersSuck]

This was one of the first programs I joined a few years back.

I agree, they are a slow earner, but what I like about them, you don't have cheat links, turning numbers and a lot of the other garbage these other PTRs have.

As for paying, I don't know, each time I get close to pay out, the raise it.

But, this is one of the few I'm going to stay with?

[govind]

I now have $41+ in my account. Here R few points in favor of this program:

* The WM is an honest fellow. He used to visit the now defunct-ISAAF site and I found him to be a very communicative individual. NO one has ever complained that he doesn’t pay members.

* The only complaint I recall was that it took a long time to reach the payout.

* We R now enjoying the search mails in other programs and R very happy to get paid numerous times. But, those will not last 4 ever. EmailPaysU doesn’t send any SEARCH MAILS. We need the kinds of ads that R sent out by this program.

* Even if he raises the payout again, I will stay with it.

I WILL DROP OUT if he ceases to be an HONEST WM!

[dcwike]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. No offense to anyone (I used to be a member of that site too), but, if no one's been paid, and the payout keeps going up as soon as you near it, what makes you think this program will ever pay?

[govind]

dcwike, U do have a good point. I will let people know if and when I get paid.

[almitra]

Thanks Govind!
I have so much time invested now I may as well see if I get to payout.............

[dcwike]

This was one of the first programs I joined a few years back.

I agree, they are a slow earner, but what I like about them, you don't have cheat links, turning numbers and a lot of the other garbage these other PTRs have.

As for paying, I don't know, each time I get close to pay out, the raise it.

But, this is one of the few I'm going to stay with?


No offense - if I got close to pay out once, and they raised the payout, I'd give it another chance. But, if, it happened again, that would tell me the program's a waste of time.undefined

[govind]

It is quite possible that we never hear any complaints of not getting paid is because there R not many members left with the program so as to complain! The WM does not delete any inactive members as I have noticed in my down line where many people have not clicked even one link! But, there R a few active clickers also. Also, raising again the payout does encourage some members to quit the program.
But, it is also clear that the outcome of all of it would leave the WM with a chunk of money to pay the remaining members who have stayed with the program! Of course, we would know about it if I got paid in not very distant future. I M still banking on the honesty of the WM! May be it is a wishful thinking on my part!



No offense - if I got close to pay out once, and they raised the payout, I'd give it another chance. But, if, it happened again, that would tell me the program's a waste of time.undefined

[dcwike]

Honesty is a good characteristic.

Has the WM been honest to explain why there was a change in the payout?
Has anyone asked?
Has anyone checked out the sustainability of this site? per say, how many members are there compared to the price charged for ads?

When I first joined the site, I did so because I was tickled by "dancing" pennies. But, after awhile, I asked myself, "What in hill am I doing here, supposedly being paid to look at junk mail?" It just wasn't worth my time anymore.

At least in the gptr programs, there's a chance of actually being paid. But, ya gotta do the homework to make sure you're not wasting your time.

I actually stopped all activity in the gptr programs about a year ago (because I got burned in some - and it took forever to reach payout in others - as I didn't spend out of pocket money to try getting referrals).

But, now, thanks to GPTBoycott's list of sustainable gptr's I'm at it again. And, I'm glad I did. In less than 2 months I've got a random payout and won a few contests.

And, there seems to be a big change from the boring click-a-link, ho hum, tedious way to spend your time. In some I can't wait to see the jokes - in another, you never know what to expect from the WM - another has her own store who pays you to look at her wares. Seems the trend is for WM's to share themselves with you and you get to know what they stand for and who they are.

Good luck to all of you who still hope to get paid from clicking on dancing pennies. Gotta admit - they were entertaining.

[govind]

As usual UR post was very informative!
Regarding pennies, each one of them carries only 0.5 cent and not 1 cent now!



Good luck to all of you who still hope to get paid from clicking on dancing pennies. Gotta admit - they were entertaining.
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[yaguar35]

email paysu I was member a few years ago, it was one of my first sites, but this site is a whole mass and waste of time. I left them, it dosnt matter if yo join high or low pying sites, they both don`t pay or what is more with the low paying sites is that you never get to reach payout, you can get a 100 years old ans till not reach. It is just a waste of time, life is short, so we should do other sites where you can make some oney.
I am sad with what was happen with Annies-Biz site, I mean the originally, she was the only honest WM, and I got paid from her more times, then she overgave her site to another person, to Dana, and she never pais out, I was a gold member in annies. but left after I found out that Dana distroyed Annies-Biz completely.
It is so sad.
I have her two other sites they r very honest and nice WM, and answer every email. it is:

heavy-metal-mails.com
banners2click

with them I stay.
Blessings. :)

[dcwike]

Yes, yaguar 35, it's VERY sad when a program we like goes down or doesn't pay. Unlike you, it got to the point where I just gave up over a year ago.

But, you know what?

One day I got notice there was a reply to a poll I started in here. Out of curiosity, I went to the thread, made a reply and browsed GPTBoycott.

That's where I saw an area discussion of "Sustainable" sites.

I joined two of the programs and, from there a few more.

Already, I've received a random payout from one, and am nearly at payout in another.

So, if you are looking for sites that will most likely pay, check it out. There are a variety of them for a variety of folks.

[govind]

As I said, I would let members know if I were ever paid by this program. I have surpassed the minimum payout of $40. I forgot to mention two other positive points about this program:
1. I ran three free ads by utilizing my earned ad cash amount.
2. I M very close to the converted points cash minimum payout of $7.50.





** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 134 different programs
since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program.

[yaguar35]

dcwike, I never understood exactly what means random payout, I had such sites but never got a random payout, those site it took a week almost till you got only 1 cent togheter, it is very annoying to click and click and click till you get one single cent together. I never will sign up such sites, and also not points, I was years doing this and didn`t got any thing.
But can you tell me what means random payout? I t seems not everybody can get it, it is like in a lottery, who has luck he gets it, and who is unkucky never gets it. Isnt it like this?
It is all so frustraiting. I am sick and home and can not work cause of my disease, so I was looking on the internet for a home work, and to clicking always and you don`t come to the point to redeem it makes more tired then to work out and being healthy but you know you get your money for your work.
I wish you luck and all the best. i will look around at the sustailable site at gptrboycot forum, thanks for you nice advise.
:)

[almitra]

Yaguar35,
Random payouts simply refers to the fact that a site will pay out from time to time before you actually reach payout and request it. It helps keep them in the black better & is a nice surprise........I got a random payout from Heavenlyemail today, actually. Nice!

Oh, and no, it's not like a lottery. Some sites do random payouts while others do not, read the terms. :)
Happy surfing!

[snakeeye]

Hello everybody,
I had a look on the discussion forum when I saw that E-mailpaysu was on the watch list. As you I am a member of this site for years and I had invested time and some money in promoting this site. I already have been paid with the paid by points program, have converted some of my earnings in a gold membership and have run several ads with the ad cash program. The WM was always replying to my questions and has always been honest which is not the case with all the programs around. He posted recently on the member page that there was an error with some payouts and apologizes about it, inviting the concerned members to contact him. I think that this is a honest behavior. I like as well that there are no search ads and that you always have a great clickthrough rate when running an ad. But you are right, it is difficult to gather enough money for to get a payout without having referrals and on the more than 300 referrals that I have in my downline lots haven t clicked even on one link. Nevertheless, I support this program and I could recommend it.

[govind]

Snakeeye, I M with U about this program. Yes, I did see that check error. But, he has been proven honest in the past by handling similar incidents very nicely. I would try 2 find the GPTB thread where I had some discussions with him regarding raising the payout and other matters.



** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 135 different programs since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program(refer to my posts 2 learn about most of them).

GPT programs: clicking since 2000; not much money 2 be made; Should I be paid big money for the action of clicking that requires no intellectual prowess or no physical prowess?
Stocks investment: since 1964; goodly amount of money 2 be made; must not be too greedy!

Failures have led me to the zenith, in my quest for success.

[dcwike]

That's good to hear, Snakeeye. I'm happy for you.

[bscannon]

Hello everybody,
I had a look on the discussion forum when I saw that E-mailpaysu was on the watch list. As you I am a member of this site for years and I had invested time and some money in promoting this site. I already have been paid with the paid by points program, have converted some of my earnings in a gold membership and have run several ads with the ad cash program. The WM was always replying to my questions and has always been honest which is not the case with all the programs around. He posted recently on the member page that there was an error with some payouts and apologizes about it, inviting the concerned members to contact him. I think that this is a honest behavior. I like as well that there are no search ads and that you always have a great clickthrough rate when running an ad. But you are right, it is difficult to gather enough money for to get a payout without having referrals and on the more than 300 referrals that I have in my downline lots haven t clicked even on one link. Nevertheless, I support this program and I could recommend it.

I've also been with this program for several years and have over 100 in my downline. It still takes a long time to reach payout and I do the paid to click just about every day. The last time I reached payout I had to IM the WM a couple of times and email him several times before I got paid. I guess he didn't comprehend that I've already been paid 3 times, so my payout was $15, not the $25 that first timers are required to have. Nonetheless, I did get paid. It was so difficult, though, if I didn't have all these referrals I would've canceled right then & there. There are too many new sites that have very low and no minimum payout requirements, that it's not even worth joining the ones where the minimum payout is over $5. I'm still hanging in there, though, but only because of my downline.

[junejune1966]

I agree. I was a member and hardly received mail from him. Waste of time.

[govind]

I do agree with the idea of staying mostly with $5 or lower payout programs. Click value is decent-0.5 cent/click and payment is faster. I have been with such programs since Jan. 2001 after getting burned by paid2click programs. But, for the diversificatiion sake, I don't mind a few high payout (only if honest) programs in my portfolio. I do have -GoneFishin-that has paid me $30. But, one other has not paid me so far. InBoxDollars has paid me but E-mailPaysU has not!
Only the time will tell if it would pay me.



** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 135 different programs since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program(refer to my posts 2 learn about most of them).

GPT programs: clicking since 2000; not much money 2 be made; Should I be paid big money for the action of clicking that requires no intellectual prowess or no physical prowess?

Stocks investment: since 1964; goodly amount of money 2 be made; must not be too greedy!
Good that I learned options strategy to earn extra income in my retirement years.



While I was enjoying my laughter at that person’s folly, I heard the laughter behind my back.

[snakeeye]

I tried lots of the 5 dollar payouts as well but most of them are scams. Only Wepaid and Oursharedsuccess (cf my post) have paid me. Nutcase has paid me once and afterwards run away with all my referrals and more as 20 dollars of earnings (cf my posts) Most of the other programs with low payout either dissapear before I reach payout or are much too long to complete. Whats the use to work on a program for over one year, clicking and clicking for finally receiving 4 or five dollars. It s ridiculous. So even if the payout of E-mailPaysU is high I m confident enough for to stay with this program and promoting it.

[dcwike]

Snakeeye, here's the trick to it all.

First, go to the thread that lists sustainable sites.

Join a mixture of programs - some where the payout seems high - others where the payouts and advertising is low.

When you reach redemptions in the lower payout programs, redeem for ads promoting the other sites you like - and trust. Once you get referrals from advertising, you earn faster - reach payout quicker.

One program I love has a payout of only $3. This PO even helps encourage his members to join the advertiser's promoted site. He also runs contests where you can earn money or free advertising. (I found that program here in the sustainable program thread.)

I've exceeded payout in less than 2 months, but, didn't request payout because my goal was to go gold in that program. Because he's good to his members, his members are loyal, so, when I won a contest for a free ad, many of them signed up under me in another program. By the fourth month, I had enough to reach my goal - a Gold membership, with free advertising, banners, etc.

Find the right PO with the right sustainable site, add teamwork, and wallah - you find success!

You just gotta work at it and set goals.

[govind]

Let me state by basic philosophy whether I M investing in common stocks or clicking the links for GPTRs.
NEVER FALL IN LOVE WITH AN INVESTMENT!
What has UR investment approach done continuousy for a few years.

Nut-Case and so many others did pay me but I usually get out of such programs just when these programs show signs of decay. I get out before other members get out of them.
I don’t signup for older programs that have a huge number of members. This is because of demise of many such programs over the years when old age reaches them!

I keep signing up with newer programs as they come aboard. Some of these programs will pay U for a short time and some will keep paying for a long time.
I M out of the older ones very quickly if I see signs of fatigue ness. Or, the program might be ok but for me the link value might not appeal at that time.
RESULT: I rarely complain about a program.
PROOF:
In January, 04 , I was paid by the following programs and anyone can see my posts about them:
12Network, GimmeMail, QuickerClicker, CashForAction, NetsReward, MoneyForAll, Absolutely-FreeMoney, TyliaPays, CreationsReward, SMC, MailMoreInfo, TheMoneyCart, PaidProgramReview, TheMrsWebDirectory, Hippie-Chicks, Logans-Legacy
I was paid a total of $50.71 U can check this out all in my posts)

In December, 04, I was paid by the following programs:
GainMail, Real-Cash, Menboo, Lookabc, AdPaid, GainAgain, Quality-Cash, WePayMail, Bora-Mails,.
I (when the month is over), should again have about a total of $50 this month.
NOTICE that all R new programs in December and none were present in January!

To make it more interesting, let me give the list for February, 2003. These programs paid me:
DividendMails, ClickinCash, TheMoney’sInTheMail, WePaid, LetterWealth, SOTIManeyMail, MokerCash, Links2Cash, Opt-In_Pays, LinkBurst, GetPaidWatch.
I was paid a total of $42.56 (U can check it out in my GPTB posts)
Again, Compare the lists!

So, I M saying that most of the new low payout programs will pay to most members for certain varying times. Most of the high payout programs will not pay to most of the members. So, it becomes a difficult task to find honest programs in this group. Of Course, as I said, I M not leaving EmailPaysU because of it’s many attractive features including the honesty of the WM. What I M saying is that it is easy to find good features in a low payout program albeit for an unknown durability. It is difficult to find a high payout program with the same features.
I think people should continue to pick programs by applying the methods that work for them. I have described my approach here and it does work for me and it has worked for me not just for a short time but for almost three years. Basically, I usually have no programs to complain about and it helps me keep my sanity!



** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 135 different programs since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program(refer to my posts 2 learn about most of them).

GPT programs: clicking since 2000; not much money 2 be made; Should I be paid big money for the action of clicking that requires no intellectual prowess or no physical prowess?

Stocks investment: since 1964; goodly amount of money 2 be made; must not be too greedy! Good that I learned options strategy to earn income in my retirement years.




While I was enjoying my laughter at that person’s folly, I heard the laughter behind my back too.

[dcwike]

I don't fall in love with my investments. I get excited because I found a few honest POs or webmasters! And, I don't invest in anything without doing the research, first.

Is it wrong to like a program? Is it wrong to support another program by purchasing advertisement?

Do you think E Mail Pays U is the ONLY honest webmaster around?

And, if he's so honest, why have people complained of not being paid - and/or taking forever to reach a payout that only increases right before you request payment?

Don't get me wrong - we all have our own ways of doing things.

My way works for me - and your way works for you.

All I did was show my way as an encouragement for someone who seems to be lost.

Yes, programs come and go, some can't pay while others disappear. But, there are reasons for that. Either they are scammers or they are people who didn't have all their i's dottet and t's crossed before they forked out the money for the site, the host, the scripts, etc. That's why gptb stepped in and helped by listing sustainable programs.

So, don't go discouraging someone who's trying to find answers to his questions just because you have no faith in other people's methods.

Go on clicking your dancing pennies and have a ball waiting forever trying to reach the ever increasing payouts.

By the way, I admire your "loyalty" to E Mail Pays U. But, I don't look at it as "loving" your investment. So, please don't take my enthusiasm as such.

[mvent2]

EmailPaysU was the first program I signed up with. They sent ridiculously low amounts of email and the dancing pennies didn't earn anything either. Add that to an unreachable payout and you'll get the worst program to sign up with.

My website shows the best PTR programs, see my sig.
Yes boycott EmailPaysU until they give a reachable payout such as 50c :p

[govind]

Thank U 4 allowing me 2 express my views and my style of dealing with investments. As usual, I have learned about your thoughts and UR ways of arriving at the same outcome-making money! I think GPTB really serves the purpose of airing different views on a given topic.
For me learning is a process and hopefully I will keep learning!



** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 135 different programs since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program(refer to my posts 2 learn about most of them).

GPT programs: clicking since 2000; not much money 2 be made; Should I be paid big money for the action of clicking that requires no intellectual prowess or no physical prowess?

Stocks investment: since 1964; goodly amount of money 2 be made; must not be too greedy! Good that I learned options strategy to earn income in my retirement years.


I will not belittle those I love and those I once loved.

[govind]

Almitra, I got paid $42.09. Good luck 2 U!






** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 137 different programs since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program(refer to my posts 2 learn about most of them).

GPT programs: clicking since 2000; not much money 2 be made; Should I be paid big money for the action of clicking that requires no intellectual prowess or no physical prowess?

Stocks investment: since 1964; goodly amount of money 2 be made; must not be too greedy! Good that I learned options strategy to earn extra income in my retirement years.



I give more, but people want more.

[almitra]

Woo-hoo, Govind, that gives me hope! I have only $11 more to go.............LOL!!!

[kglaser]

Gerald Peters, the owner, was very rude to me on another forum--when I mentioned that I couldn't seem to unsubscribe, despite following the correct procedure, he called me an "idiot", the likes of which was giving the "PTR industry a bad name". I ended up blocking their mail and have never regretted it.

[bellestraker]

As I said, I would let members know if I were ever paid by this program. I have surpassed the minimum payout of $40. I forgot to mention two other positive points about this program:
1. I ran three free ads by utilizing my earned ad cash amount.
2. I M very close to the converted points cash minimum payout of $7.50.





** I M not seeking out referrals from GPTBoycott members.
** I have been paid by about 134 different programs
since the year 2000. NetFlip was my first program.




I was with netflip as well as all advantage and many of the other originals ( Including email-pays-u) I have no refs. with EMPU and am STILL not at payout...lol
I have been meaning to delete but havent gotten around to it.

For years I have been seeing people who say thye havent been ripped off BECAUSE they havent gotten to payout.

I think its time to stop procrastinating and go hit that delete button.
At least with Sendmoreinfo ( another oldie) I was paid before so still hang in even though I dont like their new set up.

Good luck all.

Belle

[govind]

kglaser, All I will say --I M shocked!

bellestraker, I M staying with EMPY because I have close to 100 referrals. I will be qualifying for my point-payout of $7.50 very soon.
Also, after the payout of $42.09 that I received recently, the second one is only $15.





The enemy of democracy resides within us.

[kglaser]

kglaser, All I will say --I M shocked!

The enemy of democracy resides within us.

Yes, from all I've read it does seem to be an atypical reaction from this webmaster.

[taxlady]

He doesn't give a hoot about his members or his advertisers.

He told me personally that he never deletes an account for inactivity in the hopes the person will come back and click eventually.
I haven't used my account in over 2 years. Out of curiosity i logged in, and sure enough still had an account.

So when he sells an e-mail to 1000 , you're lucky if you get 1 active member to see your ad.

From an advertisers point of view, it sucks.

That plus the constant raising of payout, definately avoids paying the bulk of his members.

By the way, i've never been paid either...LOL

[govind]

Yes, the WM does not delete inactive members. I had known about it in my communication to him over two years back in connection with the CAC script errors. Would he not (and for that matter all WMs) maintain a list of active members to whom he could send the adverts? I ran three free ads each for 100 clicks and each received those many clicks. Is there anyway that these could be the bot-clicks? I have no idea.
This program is a slow earner. If a member is enthusiastic enough to promote the program and generate a good down-line then I think it should be Ok to be member of this program. Of course, I hate when a program raises the min. payout!




Impossible, they say. Possible, I say.

[moniopt]

So when he sells an e-mail to 1000 , you're lucky if you get 1 active member to see your ad.



Can you give me some FACTS on how you came up with this off the cuff remark please.

You just seem to be someone spitting out negative false information to me...

[govind]

Hi almitra, FYI-I got paid $7.66 for the Paid with Point Emails! I just wanted 2 let U know about it. So, this WM does pay!

[transcom22]

E-mailpaysu is a partly honest programme - i did get paid once although it took a little persuasion to get the payment. But the webmaster is a very miserly person and the moment he sees someones account increasing quickly, he deletes the accounts and breaks the chain. He did that with me also when I had managed a few good referrals: the problem was that my id and my colleagues ids were the same although with different email programmes like yahoo, hotmail, etc. The webmaster loves to lap the money himself and to keep his programme alive, keeps on paying a few persons who would advertise for his programme.

Incidentally, the web masters name is Gerald Peters and the Shalomptremail webmasters name is Bob Peters. I wonder if they are the same because Shalomptremail is one of the greatest fraud in the web and Bob is a rogue and should be arrested.

[st4rguitar]

Oh gosh, I HATED this program. They were just awful. I was a member for like a year, clicked like crazy, and I think I only made like $2 !!

--Becky

[govind]

U R right-it's a slow earner program.:)



Oh gosh, I HATED this program. They were just awful. I was a member for like a year, clicked like crazy, and I think I only made like $2 !!

--Becky

[dcwike]

The program wasn't worth the time and effort it takes to reach payout, to me. I quit when they raised the payout level - and glad I did. :)

[snakeeye]

Email Pays U has paid me again !!! This program is great and I only can advice everybody to sign up with it or to stick with it if you're already a member. It's clear that it takes more time to gather $40 or $50 (depending on your membership status) than to earn $4 but each email is paid 2c and not 0.0000... as on lots of other sites with lower payout level. So, if you're patient enogh, this is a great money earner!
Kind greetings
Joachim :)

[dcwike]

Good for you, Joachim! Glad you like it. :) And, good luck on your endeavors. :)

[bellestraker]

Email Pays U has paid me again !!! This program is great and I only can advice everybody to sign up with it or to stick with it if you're already a member. It's clear that it takes more time to gather $40 or $50 (depending on your membership status) than to earn $4 but each email is paid 2c and not 0.0000... as on lots of other sites with lower payout level. So, if you're patient enogh, this is a great money earner!
Kind greetings
Joachim :)


How do people accumulate points if every email is 2 cents??

Belle

[snakeeye]

You have paid emails, paid 2cts each but you have as well (optional) point emails which are regulary converted to cash. With point emails you only need $7.49 to get a payout. I have been paid several times for point emails before having enough for to get a "paid email payout"
You also have ad-cash advertisments (optional) permitting you to send advertising for free. Those three possibilities of earning are accounted on three seperate accounts. All of them are interesting. Points and ad-cash are opt-in.
Kind greetings,
Joachim

[bellestraker]

You have paid emails, paid 2cts each but you have as well (optional) point emails which are regulary converted to cash. With point emails you only need $7.49 to get a payout. I have been paid several times for point emails before having enough for to get a "paid email payout"
You also have ad-cash advertisments (optional) permitting you to send advertising for free. Those three possibilities of earning are accounted on three seperate accounts. All of them are interesting. Points and ad-cash are opt-in.
Kind greetings,
Joachim


Thank you .

I have been a member there since they started but gave up clicking about a year ago.I see I posted in Feb 05 and said I was going to delete my account and still havent done it,...(Hows THAT for procrastination)

I thought there was points but couldnt recall how it was set up so thanks for explaining.

Belle

[snyder25]

I have been paid twice by EmailPaysU. Yes, it took a while to reach payout. But, like stated earlier, the WM is honest.

[Amy]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one upset about this program. When I 1st joined payout was 24.99 then 29.99 then 39.99 now 50.00. It took me 3 years to reach the 30 dollar level and with a downline of over 35.

And since the recent email I got from the webmaster I have a very hard time believing he's honest. Upgrading to gold cost 18.00. So here's the email.

Hi Amy,

Well we are making record sales so not going out of business any time soon. Program is only growing and growing. The min is set higher because we have more subscribers and each account has to be audited before payment can be made. over 20% of those joining are cheating. Takes about 20 - 30 minutes to audit an account. with 500,000 subscribers and people getting paid daily only so much time in the day. So the min is set to an amount that keeps steady flow of payments going out that is possible to actually process. I could change the payout to $24.99 but be 2 years before you received payment by the time all the accounts where audited. If you upgrade to gold your locked in at the $39.99 level. No one is going to pay to upgrade if they are cheating. So that means we don't have to bother auditing gold members accounts. Also our advertisers send lot more ads to our gold members ( they make more ) because they know they are buyers. I know its crazy but we are in the business of selling products and services. That is the bottom line purpose of the website. To sell. As with everything on the internet times change. Our site has to change with it or go out of business. I won't go out of business so I change with it. That will make some people unhappy. but those people have nothing at stake here. If I go out of business you lose what? $30? I lose $250,000 + So no one is more dedicated to making this site work then me.

Sounds like a scam, upgrade and we will pay you and you will get ads. So is that how it works? I get over 50 ads a week in my online inbox. Why I don't get them in my them in my normal inbox is beyond me. I believe it's so I can see his spam ads and maybe sign up for programs I already belong to and am affiliates of. Yeah honest. uh huh. right.

[snakeeye]

Actually it's one of the programs earning me the most. First payout is at $50 or $40 for a gold member. Don't forget that you get $10 FREE for signing up! wich means 20 - 254% of what you need to get paid. Afterwards the limit goes to $15, easy to reach if you've got referrals. This WM always has paid me! Good luck,
Joachim

[Amy]

Oh good point. So it actually took me 3 years to earn 20 bucks! I earn WAY more than that in a month with usa-mails

[snakeeye]

Stick with it ! but I repeat EPU is the program wich earns me the most money of all those I participate in and I try to earn some money with GPTR since 2001. Anyway, if you have a better program to suggest I'm always happy to know about, kindly,
Joachim

[Amy]

I have loads of suggestions,but this isn't the topic for them.

[bellestraker]

Actually it's one of the programs earning me the most. First payout is at $50 or $40 for a gold member. Don't forget that you get $10 FREE for signing up! wich means 20 - 254% of what you need to get paid. Afterwards the limit goes to $15, easy to reach if you've got referrals. This WM always has paid me! Good luck,
Joachim



I do not understand how continually raising the payout has to do with the time needed to check accounts.

He has to reach a leveling off at some stage and if it hasnt happened in over 3 years...I strongly suspect that its not going to happen.It seems to just keep getting higher.

BTW..How many refs do you have?

Belle

[snakeeye]

Could I be Super Moderator as well and put my referal links in each reply I send? I think that this is NOT the subject of this site and that this kind of response could have been the object of a private message. Sorry!!!

[snakeeye]

I do not understand how continually raising the payout has to do with the time needed to check accounts.

He has to reach a leveling off at some stage and if it hasnt happened in over 3 years...I strongly suspect that its not going to happen.It seems to just keep getting higher.

BTW..How many refs do you have?

Belle

I'm not happy with the raising of the payout level eather and generally it's not a good sign but he always has paid me. I have about 400 refs and still promote this program since it pays well

[bellestraker]

I have loads of suggestions, its why I have my link in my signature. So I don't have to post in topics unrelated.



I guess you could do real well as a mod with getting refs. I never actually thought about it before but I wonder how many people become mods just in order to build their downline.

Belle

[Amy]

I guess you could do real well as a mod with getting refs. I never actually thought about it before but I wonder how many people become mods just in order to build their downline.

Belle


lol you know what they say about assuming.

I didn't build ANY downlines from this site.. YET. I run my own site, thank you very much. Plus help out on several PTR sites and run ads on over 30 sites.

[surfjunky]

I guess you could do real well as a mod with getting refs. I never actually thought about it before but I wonder how many people become mods just in order to build their downline.

Belle

Belle,

It's certainly not an unknown phenomenon. Not for everyone though - just the odd (dare I say select) few.


SJ

Disclaimer - I in no way am inferring anything about THIS forum in posting the above, because I have NO clue as to how things pan out here.

[bellestraker]

lol you know what they say about assuming.



Yes..I have heard



I didn't build ANY downlines from this site.. YET. I run my own site, thank you very much. Plus help out on several PTR sites and run ads on over 30 sites.


Oh well...there is always time.

Have a good one

Belle

eta...You're most welcome

btw...The capital used in YET sounds like you're still hopeful...so I guess all is not lost.

[Amy]

I did that on purpose as it's arrogant to think I know everything I may do from now till the day I die or get raptured.

[snakeeye]

If you want to be a moderator be in accordance with the rules for posting to this forum:
Writings whose main or only purpose is to promote a member's referral link or affiliate opportunity, as determined solely by the GPTBoycott Staff, are expressly forbidden, unless made within the "Advertisements" forum.

This is neither a FFA page nor a safelist, so cut out your ref link of your posts

[Amy]

Hmm... Nope I don't seem to have a referral link or an affiliate link in my posts. I actually own my own domain, I guess that's shocking, and here I thought most people by now had their own. I'm not perfect never will be. But thank you anyway for pointing out what I already know.

[bellestraker]

Hmm... Nope I don't seem to have a referral link or an affiliate link in my posts. I actually own my own domain, I guess that's shocking, and here I thought most people by now had their own. I'm not perfect never will be. But thank you anyway for pointing out what I already know.


Do you not think the bolded part of your post is a tad arrogant?

I really do not like people jumping on mods as in most cases they are doing a pretty thankless job for not much in return but in your case your posting seems to indicate that you are quite capable of making sure you come out on top.

This forum is in real need of a general information update so maybe when you finish posting for what seems to be little reason other than to make members aware of your personal site choices you might find time to do a little modding.

Dont bother saying I am not your boss as I am fully aware of that but I am a member and so far have seen nothing from you except a glaringly obvious signature.

Have a good one

Belle

[bellestraker]

I wonder why anyone would send a pm and then immediately post the contents in the forum... and then within a couple minutes delete that too.

Maybe people should decide if they really want to say things before they post...that would sure cut down on the need to run around deleting their own posts.( deleting posts seems to be catching on lately)

Have a good one

Belle.

ETA.. Or is this covered under those mod duties you were telling me about and ftr...I am very capable in real life.

[wagdoll]

I really do not like people jumping on mods as in most cases they are doing a pretty thankless job for not much in return

Maybe mods should stick a link in their siggy asking for clicks on their adsense?

[bellestraker]

Maybe mods should stick a link in their siggy asking for clicks on their adsense?



Yes...I've heard that if a person happens to get in the right position...a siggy link could be used to quite an advantage.

But a mod wouldnt cash in on that....would they?

Belle.

[freecashspace]

Maybe mods should stick a link in their siggy asking for clicks on their adsense?Now surely none of the mods here would even think about doing such a thing, Wagdoll. Especially if they've already got a link to their own domain, where they can include messages asking their visitors to click the links in their Adsense banners without having to worry about breaking any rules. Well, breaking rules other than Google's, I mean.

Wouldn't that be a naughty thing to do!

Cheers,

Wil

[Taff]

It would be very much appreciated if you ladies and gentlemen
would give a new mod a chance. There was a mistake made
and it was corrected can we now let it drop.

[bellestraker]

It would be very much appreciated if you ladies and gentlemen
would give a new mod a chance. There was a mistake made
and it was corrected can we now let it drop.


I am sorry Taff but which mistake would that be?...

Belle

[freecashspace]

It would be very much appreciated if you ladies and gentlemen
would give a new mod a chance. There was a mistake made
and it was corrected can we now let it drop.A mistake? Where? I musta missed it.

Cheers,

Wil

[Taff]

A mistake? Where? I musta missed it.

lol that's unlike you to miss anything Wil

I was referring to Amy pointing to her sig, The posts have been
edited.

Thanks

[Merlin2307]

I have been a member of this site for a long time and know how hard it is to be a mod and run a website as I have one of my own. My opinion is this...Amy if you want to have a link as a sig, that is your right, tell them all to stick it. It is another persons right as to clicking on that link and signing up for anything you have on that domain of yours. I also look at it that it is a very small payment to a mod for any and all of the work that is involved in being a part of this forum. The subject topic is EMAILPAYSU and people need to stick to the topic,if you have a complaint or gripe about someones sig then open a threat in the proper section and discuss it or complain to the owner of the website and have him or her decide if it is proper or not. I have noticed alot of members with links as sigs or below there sig. Maybe we should have a policy now that there is no sig or links allowed in any thread? Having spent 10 years in the military, and today being Memorial Day I would think everyone would have something better to reflect on than if a sig link is good and authorized as a mod. JMO

[bellestraker]

I have been a member of this site for a long time and know how hard it is to be a mod and run a website as I have one of my own. My opinion is this...Amy if you want to have a link as a sig, that is your right, tell them all to stick it. It is another persons right as to clicking on that link and signing up for anything you have on that domain of yours. I also look at it that it is a very small payment to a mod for any and all of the work that is involved in being a part of this forum. The subject topic is EMAILPAYSU and people need to stick to the topic,if you have a complaint or gripe about someones sig then open a threat in the proper section and discuss it or complain to the owner of the website and have him or her decide if it is proper or not. I have noticed alot of members with links as sigs or below there sig. Maybe we should have a policy now that there is no sig or links allowed in any thread? Having spent 10 years in the military, and today being Memorial Day I would think everyone would have something better to reflect on than if a sig link is good and authorized as a mod. JMO


Merlin.
Have you read the "where are the mods" thread?

I dont think the issue has much to do with Amy's sig - or at least IMO it is not the main issue.

I understand what you are saying and if it was as simple as removing a sig then I dont think it would still be a concern.

btw...The internet extends beyond the US..:p .In Canada it is just a regular day like any other..

Belle

[Merlin2307]

That's seems strange or have I mis-understood post 45 on seems to refer directly to Amy and her sig link. Also yes I am well aware that the internet extends beyond the U.S. and Canada,but everyone or most everyone knows what day is today. I was attempting to get you to think and realize that there are alot worse things going on in this world and on the internet than worrying about a sig link.

[freecashspace]

That's seems strange or have I mis-understood post 45 on seems to refer directly to Amy and her sig link. Also yes I am well aware that the internet extends beyond the U.S. and Canada,but everyone or most everyone knows what day is today. I was attempting to get you to think and realize that there are alot worse things going on in this world and on the internet than worrying about a sig link.No, my guess is that most everyone doesn't know, or care, that it's Memorial Day in the US. Just like most everyone in the US wouldn't know, or care, that it is (actually was for those of us in Australia since it's now the 30th here) the anniversary of the death of President Ali Soilih in Comoros, or the spring bank holiday in the UK.

And as Belle pointed out, the real issue (at least as far as several of us are concerned) isn't really the sig. It's more about what's going on at the site the sig links to, and also about the nature of Amy's involvement in PTR in general. I missed it, but apparently it became an issue in this thread because Amy was pointing to her sig in this thread.

Cheers,

Wil

[Merlin2307]

Even if the sig link did refer to a bad or good program, it's not the point of the thread. Even if Amy's involvement in PTR is in question,it's not the point of the thread. My point was exactly this......Amy volunteered to be a MOD,and I am assuming that Rob who owns or is atleast responsible for this site,knew of her envolvement in PTR. Any questions about the link, Amy's involvement in PTR or any programs put into a sig should have been addressed either in another thread or actually in a PM to Rob. I personally think sig links are un-necessary,but many seem to have them. This website was,or atleast I thought designed to fight against bad programs and owners. Entirely way too much time is spent backstabbing mods and to use anothers phrase using a different color of edit about what i would consider something that should be handled by Rob and admin committe. If you have so much time to edit, volunteer.......Amy did and I have also. This is all I will say about it in this thread.

[bulldog10]

Even if the sig link did refer to a bad or good program, it's not the point of the thread. Even if Amy's involvement in PTR is in question,it's not the point of the thread. My point was exactly this......Amy volunteered to be a MOD,and I am assuming that Rob who owns or is atleast responsible for this site,knew of her envolvement in PTR. Any questions about the link, Amy's involvement in PTR or any programs put into a sig should have been addressed either in another thread or actually in a PM to Rob. I personally think sig links are un-necessary,but many seem to have them. This website was,or atleast I thought designed to fight against bad programs and owners. Entirely way too much time is spent backstabbing mods and to use anothers phrase using a different color of edit about what i would consider something that should be handled by Rob and admin committe. If you have so much time to edit, volunteer.......Amy did and I have also. This is all I will say about it in this thread.

At the risk of going off topic.. do you know why you were not selected, at that/this time to be a mod?

[freecashspace]

You're right. Discussion about whether or not Amy is suitable as a moderator for this forum is not on-topic. Hopefully it won't prove too disruptive for all those trying so hard to discuss EmailPaysU.

By the way, I do volunteer. Nobody pays me to be a member of this forum and to contribute to discussions here.

Cheers,

Wil

[Merlin2307]

Bulldog to answer your question....I am awaiting a reply from ROB. Being a site member and starting discussions/problems is one thing,making a committment of being a MOD is another. Anyone can start a different color of edit,being committed to stopping or trying to stop injustice for lack of a better term,is another. Getting the thread back on track,after being a member of Email Pays U for over 3 years I feel it is a good program,the WM does seem to be honest,he sends a descent amount of emails and his record is he pays,maybe not on time,but he does pay. Other than the changes to payout amount,I like this program.

[freecashspace]

Yeah well, I guess how you see the commitment involved in being a mod here depends on whether you think they're actually trying to stop injustice, as you put it. From what I can tell, Amy's perfectly fine with injustice (aka 'fraudulent behaviour') as long as it's putting money in her pocket.

I know for sure that there are members here who really are commited to 'stamping out fraudulent behaviour in this industry, and they've proven that commitment by refusing to 'reap the rewards' from that fraudulent behaviour. And by speaking out, not for months, but in some cases for years. Some of those people gave up and moved on. Some of them were forced out, attacked over and over again, even after they'd been banned. A few of the more foolish are still here, trying to make a difference through their own commitment to this community and this industry.

You're right. Being a member and being a mod are different. But being a mod isn't necessarily any better than being a member. Without the members, there is no forum. Since you're hoping to become a mod yourself, you might want to keep that in mind.

ETA: If EmailPaysU doesn't pay on time and keeps raising the minimum payout, I think it's obvious that there's something seriously wrong. It should be on the Watch List at least, and probably on the Boycott List. Why would people want to join and support a program like that? We've got too many of them in this industry as it is. And the best way to make them go away is to quit joining them and supporting them.

Cheers,

Wil

[Josh]

Apparently the payout has been rising from time to time for at least 3 1/2 years:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1285

Mr. Gerald Peters didn't seem too thrilled about legitimate concerns, either. His reasoning for raising the payout was that it was "The only way to keep our payout process from becoming completely bogged down." I can understand that he probably has a fairly large membership base, but seriously, is there enough volume that it can't be handled below $30.00? Oh wait, it's $50.00 now. :\ If that much business is being done, hiring one person to process payments for a few hours each day should not be such a problem.

Talk about dangling a carrot, just out of reach. I wonder how long that $50.00 mark would take to reach without any referrals.

Josh

[bellestraker]

Apparently the payout has been rising from time to time for at least 3 1/2 years:
.

Talk about dangling a carrot, just out of reach. I wonder how long that $50.00 mark would take to reach without any referrals.

Josh



I joined in February 2001 and clicked almost everything that came in ( including the DAILY walking penny links) for the first 2 -3 years but admit I have slacked off a lot in the past year or two.

I was going to delete my account but decided to check using it for advertising.

Here are my earnings.


Direct Amount Earned: $3.18
Amount Earned First Level: $0.27
Amount Earned Second Level: $0
Amount Earned: $13.45
Points Earned: 000098
Points Earned 1st Level: 000000
Points Earned 2nd Level: 000000
Total Points Earned: 98
Paid to Click Earnings: $2.555
Total Earned: $16.005
Converted Points Total: $01.61

I made 27 cents from my one (short time) ref

The $16.00 includes the $10.00 sign up bonus...


Belle

[freecashspace]

Um, yeah. We've heard the old 'it's a time issue, not a money issue' excuse before many times. As best I can remember, it's never been true.

If payments can't be made on time, and if the minimum payment has to be repeatedly raised because of the time needed to 'audit' the accounts before making a payment, then he needs to find ways to speed up the process. Or hire somebody to help with the auditing. Or find ways to deal with the cheaters before it's time to pay them. Or just pay everybody to get caught up (presumably the money's there, ready to be paid to all who've requested, whether they're a cheater or not), and then start working on ways to deal with the cheaters and pay people on time and get the minimum payment level down to something a bit more reasonable.

Cheers,

Wil

[Josh]

Would it be possible to know whether e-mailpaysu has formal complaints, and whether they are touching on the raised payout levels or other matters?

Josh

[govind]

Just got paid $20.69.:)

[bellestraker]

Just got paid $20.69.:)



Congrats govind.

Was that a random payout or for points ?

I thought the regular payout was a lot higher than that.

Belle

[govind]

Hi, it wasnt a random payout. This was my third payout. After receiving the first payout, one can redeem at $15.00. I had requested my money about 50 days back.

As I said in the past, this program is a very slow earner. I am in it because I have more than 100 referrals and because the WM seems to be an honest individual.

[bellestraker]

Hi, it wasnt a random payout. This was my third payout. After receiving the first payout, one can redeem at $15.00. I had requested my money about 50 days back.

As I said in the past, this program is a very slow earner. I am in it because I have more than 100 referrals and because the WM seems to be an honest individual.


Thanks for replying govind and I'm glad you were paid.:)

Belle

[Jewels385]

Ah yes the dancing pennies! Oh how long it's been since I've seen those :hehe: ! But I too gave up on that site a long time ago. Glad to hear someone has been getting paid, however there do seem to be an awful lot of red flags there. :\

[govind]

Belle, I am rendered inactive in this program.
Its interesting that you spoke about BgPayMail and e-mailPaysU and I became inactive in both of them.:)




Thanks for replying govind and I'm glad you were paid.:)

Belle

[bellestraker]

Belle, I am rendered inactive in this program.
Its interesting that you spoke about BgPayMail and e-mailPaysU and I became inactive in both of them.:)


hmmm..Not quite sure what you mean but glad you were paid first at Emailpaysu. .

Hope you were paid by BGpaymail...

Belle

[govind]

Yes, BgPayMail always paid me. But, I dont like late payments.
Well, for some reason E-MailPaysU stopped sending me any mail. I have not questioned them about it as I have other better programs that make fast payments.






hmmm..Not quite sure what you mean but glad you were paid first at Emailpaysu. .

Hope you were paid by BGpaymail...

Belle

[Merlin2307]

Used to like this program alot,the dancing pennies daily and the low payout etc., but he has raised payout and now sending out emails particularly a Circle of Life email that according to Bit Defender 9.0 has several malicious Win32 virus,a system crash virus and a script virus. Wouldn't have minded it if it hadn't been that I have emailed him several times in the last 3 weeks about this email because he has mailed it out previously. To me this shows an utter disregard for his members,their computers and his program. Stay far away from this program,I am cuz I told him what he can do with his program and emailed viruses.

[marg35]

I was paid by this site a long time ago by check. I still belong to the site but am not active. It is too hard to reach payout now unless you had tons of referrals.

[snakeeye]

This site pays me regularly but it's true that I have more than 500 (400 first level) referrals. I still continue to promote this site since I think that it's worth it.
It's very hard to reach the first payout but afterwards the level drops to $15 and that's quick and easy to reach. Good luck, Joachim

[govind]

I have 120 referrals. I couldn't make more than 75 cents per month so I became inactive. Given my age of 75, I didn't want to take a chance! There was one program in which I could make $15 per month without any referrals. So, I made my choice.
Good luck to all!

[marg35]

I guess it is okay if you have a lot of referrals. I don't have any so it isn't worth it. Like I said I was paid once but the e-mails were worth more at that time. I don't know if it is fair to advertise the site because if someone can't get referrals they will leave anyhow. If someone has 125 referrals and only makes 75 cents a month that just isn't a good program. Of course, I don't know how active all these referrals were. You would need very active referrals. I find that most of their e-mails are points anyhow. I haven't really been active on this program for a long time. I can make much better money elsewhere.

[govind]

I think the relative advantage of having a ton of referrals in earning a lot of money from the PTR programs is overblown. Most of the referrals eventually become inactive. I have had thousands of referrals in the past but those programs are no longer there. So, I stopped promoting programs a couple of years back. Currently, I have 360 referrals in WePayMail and get about 2 cents a day from my referrals. Another program PaidMailDaily fetches me about 4 cents a day with about 500 referrals in it.

[marg35]

I guess you could make a lot of money on referrals if they were active. However, I haven't had much luck with that. Webmasters are always trying to get people to advertise their sites (with our money) or upgrade on their sites. To me the upgrading doesn't mean much at all. If you do get a referral from upgrading they usually don't do anything or they are gone in a week. It is best to be on a site you can make money on your own since you can't depend on other people. It is almost like a scam in a way. The sites always say they are free but it seems members are always getting lectures about not supporting advertisers. There is no way you can sign up for all those programs. I have a couple sites that I have free ads once a month but I rarely have any signups. I'm pretty tired of the whole thing.

[govind]

Well, a PTR member joins so many programs that inactivity creeps in. Also, many members leave the clicking because they find out very quickly that making some big money was very illusionary. Furthermore, the PTR business model leads to unsustainably and programs fail after a while. This all leads to very negligible contribution by the referrals.

The PTR business model also leads to the so called alleged click fraud. It only asks members to view the ads and get paid. There is no other requirement such as buying products or services. Why in the world people should be paid for just viewing the ads? So, inherent in the business model is the built in scam! I think the PTR business model needs some tinkering so as to lead to healthy programs

[kvmj]

The original payout figure was $19.99 when I joined on 02/10/03. I reached $50 on 01/13/07. I never have seen anywhere to request payment on this site.

I clicked on terms and see that they now require a signed copy of their terms and conditions to be mailed to them in Texas. I did that 01/14/07. I also sent a cover letter requesting paypal and gave the email address to use. I have also sent 4 emails requesting payment; none have been answered.

For those who have actually received payment, did I do things correctly? Should I file a complaint with the BBB? (they are not a member)

Thanks for your input.

[govind]

I got paid a few times but it was always a frustrating experience. You might like to wait for 45-60 days. You need not write any more emails. I think the WM is usually aware of the emails.
After 45-60 days, you might think about taking some action.

[marg35]

I didn't know you had to sign something to get paid. That wasn't necessary when I was paid a long time ago. I don't know how long it took to get the check but I was surprised when I actually received one. I'm not working that site at all since it takes too long and they kept putting up payout. They just automatically send the check when you reach payout. I think that was the way it used to be.

[govind]

I always had a problem in getting my check. It was never automatic.:(


I didn't know you had to sign something to get paid. That wasn't necessary when I was paid a long time ago. I don't know how long it took to get the check but I was surprised when I actually received one. I'm not working that site at all since it takes too long and they kept putting up payout. They just automatically send the check when you reach payout. I think that was the way it used to be.

[kvmj]

I think I'll wait 30 days before doing anything else. Thanks to everyone who responded.

[nafan]

i Just noticed in the faq you can only get paid by check now. im sure paypal and e-gold used to be an option. looks like he wants to avoid paying international members. im giving up on my $35

[kvmj]

I just checked FAQ. You can still get paid by Paypal, Stormpay, EGold or check. Not that I've been paid yet or received a reply.

[nafan]

thats weird in the Terms it says
Paypal, Stormpay, EGold or check
but in the faq all it says is
Q: How and when will I be paid?
Member commissions shall be paid by company check.

[govind]

I always got paid via PayPal. As I said, I am inactive now.

[kvmj]

Just thought I would update everybody on my situation. Since I last posted, the WM converted points so he now owes me over $60.00. I have yet to receive any response to any email. I filed a complaint with the BBB on 02/27. He has until the end of the day to pay or answer the complaint. I'm not holding my breath.

If he's not going to pay me, I think that I should do my level best to put him out of business. I can file a claim with the attorney general's office in Texas but I doubt that it would do any good.

Since I had to send him a signed form, I believe that I can have him prosecuted for mail fraud by turning it over to the USPS. I can also write to Paypal.

Any one have any other ideas?

[marg35]

I think I got a check in 2001. Maybe they were paying then. Some sites will pay for a while and then they quit. That is what Dayslook is doing now. I'm not active with Email pays you anymore. It takes too long to get anything. I wish you luck and hope you get a check. That is a lot of clicking for nothing.

[snyder25]

I received a PayPal payment of $18.29 from Email Pays U on 1/04/2007.

[kvmj]

I received a PayPal payment of $18.29 from Email Pays U on 1/04/2007.


How long did it take to receive?

[snyder25]

How long did it take to receive?


It only took 6 days.

[fullauto]

Hi Guys!

Gerald Peters here owner of e-mailpaysu.com

I appreciate some of the FEW nice words a few folks said about me. Anyone that knows me knows I am honest. There is NOT ONE e-mailpaysu subscriber who was owed a payout and didn't receive it! NOT ONE! I am referring to one who honestly was due a payout.

One thing about my site is I keep open communication. I have my personal phone # listed on the website. What I find is people will post complaints, file complaints but don't have the common curtsey to pick up the phone and call me. In almost 9 years of running my website i have had less than dozen that I can think of call me with a problem or concern. But I have read many post. In the last few years I can think of only 2 subscribers calling me who after I investigated were honestly due a payout they didn't get. For their trouble and my error I upgraded their account to gold member status free of charge.

Subscribers wonder why there are so many scam programs? Part of it is the subscribers are trying to scam the webmasters on an even greater scale. I cancel over 100 fraud accounts daily! 100! Fraud is at such a level I am not sure the future of the business.

I saw post about payments not going out and maybe the website is dead? Dead? Over 300 + new subscribers join e-mailpaysu daily. Check the traffic ranking still in the top 10% most visited and has been for years.

Few emails sent?

One reason is spam filters, people using yahoo, hotmail, Comcast I could send you 10,000 paid emails you might get 1 or 2. I test this stuff on daily basis we hire people to help us get emails through. This isn't the subscriber nor the webmasters fault just a symptom of spam. Over protection.

Another reason is most advertisers want their ads going to the newest subscribers each day. So I might sell $500 - $1,000 a day in ad sales but every single one of those advertisers request their ad to go to the newest 5000 or so subscribers. Why?

The reason is subscribers aren't buying the advertisers products and services. I know this is crazy but ptr's/ptc's are in business to make money not payout money out. The honest programs obviously pay out as they should but the main purpose of the business is to sell product and services. Soon as the subscribers stop buying its over. The new subscribers tend to be buyers. Its just a fact of the business.

For 4 years now due to fraud it takes 30 - 60 days to receive your payment from the time you request it. If I paid every payment request even though the account reflects the earnings I would be out of business next month. Fraud is that rampt and these guys are smarter then me and you. They are always ahead of me and the programmers we use. So we audit all accounts before payment. Takes about 20 minutes. Do the math, typically work day is 7hours.... i know this is crazy thought but we don't work 7 days week 24 hours a day as many subscribers think we should. I have one employee all they do is audit and pay accounts.

If i didn't need an employee to do that I could pay out more or at least faster. So only so many payments can go out a day. Typically 20 - 25 payments. We send that many a day.

I will raise the min for payout when more checks are needed to be processed then we can. We need to keep the # of checks going out in proportion to income coming in and the # we can audit. That is just the Gods honest truth and fact of the business.

So as that # goes up the min of payout goes out. But if that really freaks you out, before you scream "scam" partner and become a gold member. Not only with my site but others. Gold members checks go out quickly. And it shows your serious. Not trying to sell you just letting you know. I don't need to sell the gold membership over 10 + people a day upgrade. E-mailpaysu has more gold membership then most sites have subscribers. I have tons of gold members who receive checks monthly. They have tons of referrals many of those referrals also become gold members generating more referrals on and on.

Many of my advertisers only want to send ads to my gold members. Can you blame them? They are trying to sell products or services. Gold members are buyers.

As an honest webmaster who post his yahoo ID for live chat support, live phone support and subscribers will still will not use these options and post negative post or file complaints.

K. J. who is in this thread. Prime example of subscriber "abuse" of the webmaster. Request payout. Great request received. Using yahoo, who constantly blocks our emails, so didn't get the confirmation of payment request received. Less then 30 days files a complaint with the BBB. Never once calling me on the phone or leaving me a voice mail.

Soon as I get the complaint I get on the phone to the subscriber. Yet subscriber rarely show the same respect. Its a two way street. For ever negative post in here about my website not one of you have called me on the phone. Why? If you have a suggestion rather then saying "he raised the min for payout its a scam" how about calling me and asking why was the minimum raised? Skip the slander and false statements and be adults and call. I would be happy to explain to anyone about any aspect of the business. You might not like what I tell you, just like I might not like what you tell me but at least we communicated.

If you have a problem with my website please email me, if you don't get a reply I DIDN'T GET YOUR EMAIL! I receive over 14,000 a day. It is real easy to miss some, or they get blocked or deleted. Then try yahoo chat, still can't get me call me on the phone. Sitting right here next to it. Stop the half truth negative post and the "threats".

Typical email to me is, pay me or I will file a complaint with , KGB, or White house, or the BBB, or FTC on and on. I get these emails daily. Honestly when your a webmaster of a ptr guys the agencies don't bother or scare the webmaster. It really doesn't. I could tell you what would get the webmasters attention real quick but to many people would abuse it so I will not mention it. But seriously sending emails ending with threats usually causes me to delete the email with out reading it. BBB? that is for customers...subscribers to ptr/ptc you didn't buy anything... so your wasting tax payer dollars and they can't make the webmaster to anything.... FTC? Again most of the ptr owners have you with the agreement you agree to that 99% of all subscribers don't bother reading.

If your really still thing you have it down you know the answers START A PAID TO READ! I would love to help you then you can join my other website that helps paid to read owners make money.

God Bless... forgive any spelling or grammar errors was typing fast.

[kvmj]

I did request payout both in writing and followed up with many emails. After 30 days without getting a single response, I did file a complaint with the BBB. He never responded to the BBB. He did call me 28 days after the complaint was filed and told me that no one gets paid before 60 days (fraud is so massive, he says). Since over 60 days had elapsed since I made my initial request for payment, he agreed to pay me in the next 24 hours. I also notified the BBB of his call and promise and to let them know when payment was received.

Another week went by without payment or response to my emails. The BBB in the meantime closed their file as an unanswered complaint. I decided that my next step would be to file a complaint with the FTC. I also felt that it would only be fair to notify him of my intent by email. I received in reply several angry incoherent rants by email telling me he didn't really have to pay me because it's all fake money anyway. I was accused of "threatening" him. I was advised that no WM cares about the BBB or FTC. I was accused of taking food out of the mouths of babies from WM's who host his site and of wasting taxpayer dollars.

I was never rude in my dealings with Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters was thoroughly disagreeable and rather immature in his response to me. In my opinion, 30 days is a reasonable amount of time in which to pay monies owed. This man took 75 days to pay me. There was never a time when he was on AIM or Yahoo messenger. Even though he was extremely nasty to me, I did notify the BBB that he had paid in order that might make a notation in their file.

Me, I don't need this type abuse. I have happily severed my relationship with this site.

[kassie422]

I have to say that all my dealings with Gerard Peters have always been handle courteously although not very expediant. I did have to wait a long time to collect once, but after communicating with him and giving them as much time as they needed to track down the error, I WAS PAID! I haven't been as active lately but that is not due to the site or the long time it takes to build up to payout. For the amount of time the site takes to click each day, it was very nice to receive a check bigger than $3 or $5.00.

Thank you Mr. Peters, you have always been a pleasure to deal with and also for enlightening us as to the troubles you experience on the other side of the money.

To all the clickers out there, all I can say is have some patience and you will be paid. I WAS!

[horselover]

Any news on payout options now? I haven't been receiving emails in a long time, and don't know what's happening with that.

[kassie422]

I don't come here very often but I wanted to let you know that I was paid. It took awhile and I needed to write them and ask what was going on but I got all monies owed me by Email Pays U? I have since started working at home and don't really have time to do these anymore but I wanted you all to know to hang in there. The WM is a great guy and works very hard to get everyone up to date.

[snakeeye]

Hello, just wanted to let you know that E-mailPaysU has paid me again for the 5th time. This program already earned me more than $150. So I only can recommend it. Kind greetings and good luck to you all,
Joachim

[phillygal3]

how could they pay anybody? the site has been down for days. whats going on with them?

[snakeeye]

It's not because the site was down that they don't pay :)
I just received an email from Gerald:
"You might have noticed the website was down for last 5 days. The company I host my servers with was recently purchased by larger internet provider. They were to relocate their offices last weekend and I was told to expect 6 - 12 hours down time. This was suppose to happen midnight Friday. 12 hours turned into 5 days!!"
I think that's an answer to your question :)
Kind greetings and good luck,

Joachim

[bnorris10]

I read someone someone had a email from the owner saying the owner would lower the number of emails sent to you the longer you were a member so that you could never reach a member

[snakeeye]

Hello, I'm a member with this program since march 2001. I've never seen this kind of email from the owner and I've been paid 5 times already for a total of more than $150. Remember that second payout is at only $15.
Furthermore, if you're an advertiser, trying to get some more referrals for another program and you could target your ads, I'm sure that you as well would make the choice to target the newest members, for to get the best response. Older members have already received lots of advertising and are perhaps already members of lots of more or less good programs and would sign up more difficultly with the program you're promoting.
That's only reality in the world of PTR advertising and not dishonesty from the webmaster for you not to get paid. Each time I have new refs coming in with this program I see money coming in for the reasons I explained before.
Good luck to you,

Joachim

[bnorris10]

Yeah u know what i went and asked the person i heard that from and it was not them it was another company with a name almost like this

[maricel]

$150 in 6 years wow, wheres the url:laugh:

Maricel

[suzyb2wierd]

I've been a member since 2001 and have NEVER reached payout even once (and yes I have referrals)

[bellestraker]

I've been a member since 2001 and have NEVER reached payout even once (and yes I have referrals)


I joined in February 2001 ...have no refs and have never reached payout. I am now at $16.27 so I imagine I should make it "soon". ( like possibly 2020 )

I dont know why I am still a member...habit maybe? I have said I would delete my account a couple times but never get it done.

Belle

[suzyb2wierd]

Amount Earned: $20.12

that is in SIX YEARS with referrals.

the only good thing i can say about this program is it doesn't send much email (however, thats also the reason you don't reach payout easily)

[bellestraker]

Amount Earned: $20.12

that is in SIX YEARS with referrals.

the only good thing i can say about this program is it doesn't send much email (however, thats also the reason you don't reach payout easily)



I clicked every one of those stupid "penny dudes" for so looong. ( the first 2 - 3 years. Just think where I would be if I hadn't done that ) lol.

One member from here uses the ad money and seems to do well but I think he has a LOT of refs.

Maybe we could pool our money with another 30 or 40 members and then we "may" each payout...Ya think?

Belle

[suzyb2wierd]

i have about 30.00 in ad cash, perhaps i will use that for an ad......and then again maybe not i am an indecisive and wishy washy person these days :laugh: mostly can't think of much that i want to advertise and certainly not the MLM sites that seem to be Email Pays U advertisers stock in trade these days.

[SEO expert]

"more money by Recycling a beer"....lol :laugh::hehe:

that's a good one....now going to the point that Mr. Govind said...i would go with him....if you never got paid by them and waiting for your first payout then why are you sticking with them....and the worst thing is the minimum payout is very high.....

You should probably join and stick to the programs where the minimum payout is very low.....an example would be CashCrate - their minimum payout is only $10 which you can easily earn everyday so you can earn and withdraw these $10 everyday !!!

[snakeeye]

Just got paid again (for the 6th time) This time $14 for paid with points. :cool:

[Lantakik123]

Has anyone gotten paid lately. I am very close to payout.

[snakeeye]

I was paid 9 days ago

[elijah11]

I have been a member for over seven years. Because the software is old, many things are done manually, which is why payout takes at least three months. Payout was raised once for fist time payouts, but is still fifteen dollars after that. I purchased a gold membership, and have been given over fifty referrals. I've only reached payout twice, due to my own laziness, and was paid once. My second payout is just about due. Anyone who has been clicking since the early days knows that the older sites had to adjust or perish. The ads are of the get-rich-quick variety, but that's why many emails pay two cents. The one negative is that without a downline, first time payout can take a few years. I would only recommend this site to those willing to purchase the gold membership or those able to build a quick downline.

[snakeeye]

E-MailPaysU has paid me again, for the 7th time. This time it was a regular payout of $24.

[bellestraker]

I have been a member for over seven years. Because the software is old, many things are done manually, which is why payout takes at least three months. Payout was raised once for fist time payouts, but is still fifteen dollars after that. I purchased a gold membership, and have been given over fifty referrals. I've only reached payout twice, due to my own laziness, and was paid once. My second payout is just about due. Anyone who has been clicking since the early days knows that the older sites had to adjust or perish. The ads are of the get-rich-quick variety, but that's why many emails pay two cents. The one negative is that without a downline, first time payout can take a few years. I would only recommend this site to those willing to purchase the gold membership or those able to build a quick downline.



Thank you elijah for an explanation which covers both the good and the bad..

If people join knowing it could take many years to reach payout then that is their choice but for those who expect to make it in a more reasonable time it is a grrrr.

I am still a member ( since Feb 2001)and am now at $16.73 ( incl. $10.00 bonus). I also had $13.25 in ad cash of which I spent $12.00 for 100 hits. As it took me 7 years to earn this amount in adcash it seems a tad silly to spend 7 years to earn 100 hits and $6.73.

I agree with you in regards to upgrades and referrals.( lots of them lol) as otherwise its almost impossible to be paid. If you do not mind upgrading and waiting then this could be a good site for you.

I believe that Emailpaysu has survived mainly by not having to pay out the many members who have clicked for so long in the hopes of reaching payout and then finally give up and leave without being paid..

This is a site with both love 'em and hate 'em members. The best bet would be to make sure it "fits" your needs BEFORE you invest 7 years. ( ME )<s>

Belle

[snakeeye]

I have signed up with this site march 13th 2001 and had a first payout with the points program on july 28th 2002. My first regular payout of $40.97 was only on march 20th 2006 but in the meantime I redeemed $25 for a goldmembership. This way I had a lower payout level and some referrals.
I continuously promoted this program since 2cts per paid mail and 50% referral earning are rather interesting. Only 5 month later, on august 8th, I had another regular payout of $25 and 21 days later got paid again $13 for the points program.
On 07/22/07 I had another regular payout of $45 and 2 months later again $14 for the points program. Today I was paid for the 7th time, a regular payout of $24.
I now have a total downline of 1105 member of which 616 are direct refs. I did some stats:
40% of those direct refs never clicked on a link and only 20% of my direct refs earn me 80% of my referral earnings, which confirms the Pareto principle, which states that states that, for many events, 80% of the effects comes from 20% of the causes.
During the last 30 weeks, my average weekly earnings was of 64cts.
I also stated that following a promotion my earnings rose due to the fact that advertisers wish to contact NEW referrals.

My conclusion is that this program really pays, paid mails are well paid but WM doesn't send lots of them. Referrals earn you money but you have to continue promoting since new refs bring you more money.
I think this is a fair analyze and hopes this helps to make up you mind whether this program is interesting for you or not.

[bellestraker]

I have signed up with this site march 13th 2001 and had a first payout with the points program on july 28th 2002. My first regular payout of $40.97 was only on march 20th 2006 but in the meantime I redeemed $25 for a goldmembership. This way I had a lower payout level and some referrals.
I continuously promoted this program since 2cts per paid mail and 50% referral earning are rather interesting. Only 5 month later, on august 8th, I had another regular payout of $25 and 21 days later got paid again $13 for the points program.
On 07/22/07 I had another regular payout of $45 and 2 months later again $14 for the points program. Today I was paid for the 7th time, a regular payout of $24.
I now have a total downline of 1105 member of which 616 are direct refs. I did some stats:
40% of those direct refs never clicked on a link and only 20% of my direct refs earn me 80% of my referral earnings, which confirms the Pareto principle, which states that states that, for many events, 80% of the effects comes from 20% of the causes.
During the last 30 weeks, my average weekly earnings was of 64cts.
I also stated that following a promotion my earnings rose due to the fact that advertisers wish to contact NEW referrals.

My conclusion is that this program really pays, paid mails are well paid but WM doesn't send lots of them. Referrals earn you money but you have to continue promoting since new refs bring you more money.
I think this is a fair analyze and hopes this helps to make up you mind whether this program is interesting for you or not.



Good post snakeeye and a good explanation of how it works.

I hope you did not think I was saying you did NOT give a fair representation as that is not what I meant. I was simply commenting on the last post.

In many posts you have said you have continued to promote and have a large referral base so of course that makes a difference.

I have heard members say they were upset about the wait time but I have not heard them say they NEVER got paid so for those who are good at promoting it seems to work.

Belle

[snakeeye]

Don't worry Belle, I didn't took your last post personally. I just thought that eliah11 had a good point with his explanation and so did you saying that "This is a site with both love 'em and hate 'em members"
I thought that it would be good to do a little follow-up on this for to make things clearer for people who wonder whether this site fits their needs. I started a detailed spreadsheet about this site on 09/24/07 and so I had some data to provide and thought that this could be useful for the discussion. :)

[elijah11]

I'm glad you folks took what I said as straight reporting, rather than a ringing endorsement. As for downline, I have about a dozen good clickers out of several hundred. After waiting a total of six months for payout, I just sent a gentle reminder. I'll report back if I hear back (or not). Meanwhile, I stopped promoting the site until I can verify that they still pay. There are such an amazingly high percentage of honest website owners that I remain optimistic.

[bellestraker]

I'm glad you folks took what I said as straight reporting, rather than a ringing endorsement. As for downline, I have about a dozen good clickers out of several hundred. After waiting a total of six months for payout, I just sent a gentle reminder. I'll report back if I hear back (or not). Meanwhile, I stopped promoting the site until I can verify that they still pay. There are such an amazingly high percentage of honest website owners that I remain optimistic.


Good luck and please let us know when you get paid.

Belle

[snakeeye]

Best is to contact Gerald directly either by phone either by messenger. Unlike other WM's he's always available and you always get a response and eventually paid.

[Lantakik123]

Thanks, that was very informative. Requesting payout is a bit confusing, tho.

[suzyb2wierd]

i've been a member since March 6, 2001. 7 years and 2 months.

I have never reached payout and have earnings as of today of $29.70 plus $34.95 ad cash (which is useless since their prices hop from $12.00 for 100 email advertisements to $40.00 for 500 email advertisements, and they don't seem to be sending ad cash ads any longer)

[jpomeranz]

It is very hard to reach the payout minimum with this site. It's a shame that it is on the boycott list because a large number of their members have joined through incentivized offers on GPT sites.

[snakeeye]

Unfortunately this site now became a complete SCAM.
I've asked for payout over one year ago, still nothing !!!
Points are no longer converted for a long time
and, most of the time, webmaster doesn't answer inquiries.
He only reacted to my email when I've let him know that I've asked for boycott and filed a complaint with BBB.