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pierina
23rd July 2003, 19:23
Hello! Take some time to read this warning about a real CHEATER. http://www.emailmatters.com is the biggest FRAUD on the internet. This is what he is doing: He sends out a lot of crap.He makes trap-mails, pay-for-reading-emails, FEE-mails and set up-mails all that to get himself a reason to delete your account and take all the earnings himself. Zero tolerance and a very inhuman attitude and behaviour. He himself breaks all kind of rules on the advertisers sites. Searchengines for example do not allow to send out mass emails etc. But all that kind of things he doesn't give a damn about-.But his members must follow rules. But even if they do.He tries to make them break them by ugly tricks and stupid and timewasting instructions for even more stupid questions.Answer wrong and your earnings will be his. You do sign up for recieving paid-emails nothing else. He has got no reason to accuse anybody for not reading the emails etc. Compare with people who advertise in TV, radio, newspaper at the cinema. Can they give you a fine if you don't watch them , read them and like them? But now it is not like people do not read them. But he does force and trick people in to a lot of hidden traps so that sooner or later everybody will loose all their earnings.That is his only goal with the whole thing. Read here what he wrote about the latest deleting: Cash Balance: 4.1978972 >Point Balance: 32210.01 > >The English Test is Over. To simplify things I decided to Delete everyone who clicked on Answer #1 which was an incorrect answer. It had the highest number of clicks among the 3 wrong answers and the other 2 will most likely be duplicates and a few strays. Don’t worry…I’ll do it again and make sure we get them. > >As for the people who clicked the correct answer ANIMALS, you get to keep your account as well as the 1 cent for getting the right answer. > >For those of you who chose incorrectly, your account will be deleted within the hour. NO EXCEPTIONS! There will be 219 accounts removed. > >This test was not aimed towards cheaters It was a test to see who is paying attention and who can understand what they are reading. > >It was not meant to embarrass anyone nor was it meant to steal from people. > >Mike Hawkins >Owner – EmailMatters > >“Please pay attention to our sponsors, they are paying you for your time.” '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' They GIVE YOU LIKE A QUARTER OF A CENT PAYMENT FOR READING EMAIL-LINK AND TAKES MORE THAN 4 DOLLARS FOR CLICKING ANOTHER LINK YOU REALLY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR. DOES HE PAY THE MONEY BACK TO THE POOR ADVERTISERS HE SAYS HE CARES SO MUCH FOR?????!!! WOULDN'T THAT BE THE LEASTES THING HE COULD DO??!!!FOR GIVING THEM SUCH BAD QUALITY ADVERTISING.!! WATCH UP FOR THAT CHEATER !!! THE WEBMASTER !HE IS THE ONLY CHEATER AT : EMAILMATTERS.COM

mc6158
24th July 2003, 22:18
I had the same thing happen. I deleted his questionair email and was deleted because he said I failed the english test. I have watched him do this over and over again to people. I was hoping I could hang in to make payout. I had over $7 dollars and 11,000 points.

The ironic thing is that today I recieved an email from him saying he was running an exchange ad I did for his ad swap! No clue that he had deleted me!

I've run ad swaps and a number of email and PTC ads on Email Matters. None of that mattered!

I was getting tired of being talked down to and generally treated like dirt by him. He did me a favor!

govind
25th July 2003, 07:54
I became INACTIVE member LONG TIME back----

orlafla
25th July 2003, 10:08
Compare with people who advertise in TV, radio, newspaper at the cinema. Can they give you a fine if you don't watch them , read them and like them?

Can you tell me how to find the TV, radio, newspapers or cinemas that pay me to watch their ads? If so, I don't believe that I will have a problem if they want to test me every once in awhile to make sure I'm actually doing what they pay me to do.

I believe it would be better to compare EmailMatters or any other commissionable program on the web to other types of commissionable services in the real world such as telemarketing, surveying, tele-entertainment, and offline sales positions.

How many of those have you seen that don't periodically test their representatives to ensure they are performing the job the way they are being paid to? If you don't perform on the test, you're no longer allowed to represent their product or service. Isn't this exactly what Mike is doing?

DAzHiredGun
25th July 2003, 12:11
There are a few comments I will make on this subject.

I joined EmailMatters early on; as I recall, as one of the first 100 members, but certainly not long afterward if not within the first 100. Joining on Dec. 20, 2002, I'd been a strong supporter of Mike's since day one. I've advertised through him, using accumulated points, and advertised his program here and elsewhere. I had communicated with him on several occasions, and, in one such communication, informed him I intended to nominate his program for the GPTBoycott Seal of Approval after his program had been online several months.

At the time I joined, pay-out was at $10.00. On February 25, 2003, I copied the following from my account info:

Downline Count

#1 14
#2 43
#3 4
#4 2
Total: 63

Total Point Credits: 111,500

Point Debits

Paid Point Email to All 10,000
Point Ad 10,000
Point Ad 10,000
Point Ad to All 10,000
ptc cash 25,000
Point Ad to All (4) 40,000

Total Point Debits: 105,000


As you can see, I made use of the points earned through ads.


On March 9, 2003, I received an e-mail, from rewards@emailmatters.com, containing the following:

Hello Ron,

I've got to ask you to do something again. But, first, I'd like to give you a run down on your account.

DAzHiredGun
9.017535
56539.8296

Could you please go to http://www.emailmatters.com/pages/userinfo.php today and update your interests.
~~~~~


On May 15, 2003, I received the following:

Ron, here is your account information and some very important news!

USERNAME DAzHiredGun
CASH 4.102675
POINTS 82778.43158

------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
Here’s the plan for May. 15 Days Left! Top 100 Readers will be getting MONEY!

50% of Profits in May will be given to the Top 100 Readers!
The Top 10 Readers will split 20% of that amount
The Top 90 Readers will split 80% of theat amount.
http://www.emailmatters.com/pages/terms.php#top100
~~~~~


Had I cashed out between March 9, 2003, and May 15, 2003 ? The answer is NO.

Did I question the reduction? Again, the answer is NO.

Recently, our office was involved in a couple of high profile Capital Murder cases that, frankly, I deemed more important than ptr. During that time, I was away from Boycott for a period of 8-10 weeks; time that was spent either in trial preparation, witness conferences, or court. Though I collected and stored incoming e-mail, admittedly, I rarely clicked. As a result, I lost several accounts, including the account with emailmatters. When I questioned what had happened to my account, I was informed accounts were deleted after 20 days inactivity.

If there's an option, somewhere on site, where members can place themselves "on vacation" to prevent deletion due to inactivity, I certainly have never seen it. I was unaware of the change pertaining to deleting for inactivity had been reduced from 30 days to 20 days; just as, I was unaware pay-out had been reduced from $10 to $8.

Oh well, that's my problem; rules are rules - no exception.


Ron

pierina
25th July 2003, 13:25
I wrote that any PR-buyer can't come and punish people with fines if they don't read and watch it or listen to their commercials.
The point is that even if you pay millions for being seen and showed for people you can never take for granted that people will pay full attention to what you send and pay for as an advertiser.And it is not right of emailmatters.com to be prejudiced about their readers and subscribers.If they promise more than they kan keep so is that their fault not the reader's.And they should be the ones who took the consequenses by the whole thing. But as I also wrote he accusations are groundless and just baseless assumptions.
If people fail a trivia or some other kind of non-commercial game so doesn't that at all proove that they don't read the ads. It is the ADS people are paid for reading not what the owner of emailmatter.com writes. Ok it is good to pay attention to that too.But you can not blame people if they don't have time to read every single word that are being sent to them.As I did I click the links first to have them loaded and then read what he had to tell during the time the links were loading. Is that cheating ?? I call it trust.You trust someone and you are being tricked and deleted.Who can say that you must read the information in that order. That must be voluntary!! If you try to make it effecient you will be punished!( tried to save some time).
That is what you think is wrong!!In what way is that wrong???
And what he is doing is not a serious game. It is the most dirty scam you ever can be involved into.
Everything shall be to his advantage and the members are completely lack of legal rights. He does behave dictatorial and with a big portion of arbitrariness .Thats the simple truth.Sorry to have to say it but it was a big disappointment to find out that the webmaster of emailmatters.com who had all my respect before did turn out to be such an senseless greedy egoist. I had higher thougts about him ,but now I know better what kind of a person he is. And I will do my very best to make sure he is stopped doing what he is doing. I know that I have legal rights and that it is human to err.And he is not in a position to play bully and the last word is not said yet about all this.

pierina
25th July 2003, 18:12
Hi again! I am glad to see the responses.But sorry for your sake that you have been bad treated too by that webmaster.
I have been thinking a little bit more about that so called contests and controles he is sending out. Can he stake my whole earnings on a trivia without my acceptance?!!
I don't think so!!
It is absolutely unaccepatable what he is doing. I don't care about what he does call what he is doing , I must establish the fact that he acts high-handed ( arbitrary). I say just once and for all that trying to call that for rules are just ridiculous .
What doesn't people do for money??
He is a good example on people sinking to which low level it ever takes to get some more cash. And I guess that the more he is doing it the more it will whet his appetite for it.

emailmatters
25th July 2003, 21:58
Cheap shots Pierina. It took me 3 times and over 1/2 hour to understand what you were trying to say in your first post.

Did you graduate at Ohio State too? Just kidding.

It seems that you were paying attention to the email about who was getting deleted. What happened to you when I asked about Pigs and Horses? Were you intoxicated?

mc6158: Again...if you were paying attention to what you were reading when I told you WHY you were deleted, you would have known that it wasn't because you didn't answer the email. It was because you answered it wrong.

mc6158: You requested numerous Ad Swaps that I had no problem filling and filling them as quick as you sent them in. I was even glad to grant your requests for amounts higher than I gave to other members requesting the same deal. I have over 30 emails from you concerning 10 or more ad swaps which we did together.

Yes, you took the English Test. The email might be gone but I still have the click logs for it.

Pierina: Or is it Purina? You made a remark about promises.

"If they promise more than they kan keep so is that their fault not the reader's.And they should be the ones who took the consequenses by the whole thing."

This is not about promising more than I could keep. This was about you agreeing to the terms and reading advertising for payment. A link to the terms page is included in every Points and News. From time to time I do ask for members to pay attention. Many people do not have a problem with that.

DAzHiredGun: I'm sorry for my ignorance last spring. If have backups of the records from then, I will look through them in the coming days to see what happened to your earnings. I wish you had brought that to my attention.

Do you think 20 days is too short? As for the vacation feature. It's there. It's in the Account Information page near the bottom where your Name and Address and Interests are supposed to be displayed. Members should put a date in the box labeled vacation to keep their accounts safe during periods of inactivity. I'm sorry you didn't know about that.

DAzHiredGun: I miss having you as a member and regret that I lowered the date from 30 days to 20 days. Perhaps that is too much.

I can understand the disgust and anger that a few people are relaying towards me. I'm sorry for the hard feelings and wish that none of this would have ever happened. But, what's done is done. I can't keep changing the rules. And most of all, I can't bend over backwards anymore trying to make EVERYONE happy.

I will continue to strive to satisfy both members of Emailmatters and their advertisers. I am a perfectionist and I apologize for my being arbitrary at times. I believe in continuous improvement. When I see problems with the way I interact. I jump to fix them.

I'm getting sick and tired of being called a fraud when all I have done during the past 7 months is come home from work to send emails for people I don't really know in echange for page views and visits and occasionally receive some money for it. I wake up to go to work and what do I do first? I head to the computer to see if anyone needs help or has something to advertise. I go to my job and work for them. Then I come home and work for the good people at Emailmatters. It's enough to drive a weak person crazy. I hope I am not that weak. I don't want to go crazy.

Yes, you are right. I make too many rules. But there are too many variables to work with. There are people who are not wanting to oblige. There are people who just don't care about what they are doing or what I am doing. They are there looking for a handout.

I paid for my computer with hard work. I pay for the scripts that put your ads out. I pay for the server that runs the scripts. I pay to advertise, I pay to promote. I pay to reward. I have paid out over $300 to deserving members since day one. That doesn't include all the cash redemptions. That's just the amount of what I have paid out to those who have request when they reach the minimum amount required. It could be larger, but I started with a point system so that you can advertise without cash. I give out cash and points. If you wish to use cash, you may. If you have no cash you may use points. If you wish to read advertising for cash, you may get cash.

Sorry this is so long. I am also sorry some of you think of me as a fraud. I have to go now and prepare for my 8 hour shift at the plant. My work for EmailMatters will continue in the morning and I will continue to send out advertising for those who wish to send it.

By the way. . . Advertising at EmailMatters is better than it ever has been. I must be doing something right. Please don't take that as if I were speaking conceitedly, it's merely an observation.

(This has been spell checked and grammar checked.)

DAzHiredGun
26th July 2003, 08:49
Originally posted by emailmatters
Cheap shots Pierina. It took me 3 times and over 1/2 hour to understand what you were trying to say in your first post.

Did you graduate at Ohio State too? Just kidding.

What happened to you when I asked about Pigs and Horses? Were you intoxicated?

Pierina: Or is it Purina? You made a remark about promises.


DAzHiredGun: I'm sorry for my ignorance last spring. If have backups of the records from then, I will look through them in the coming days to see what happened to your earnings. I wish you had brought that to my attention.

Do you think 20 days is too short? As for the vacation feature. It's there. It's in the Account Information page near the bottom where your Name and Address and Interests are supposed to be displayed. Members should put a date in the box labeled vacation to keep their accounts safe during periods of inactivity. I'm sorry you didn't know about that.

DAzHiredGun: I miss having you as a member and regret that I lowered the date from 30 days to 20 days. Perhaps that is too much.

I can understand the disgust and anger that a few people are relaying towards me. I'm sorry for the hard feelings and wish that none of this would have ever happened. But, what's done is done. I can't keep changing the rules. And most of all, I can't bend over backwards anymore trying to make EVERYONE happy.

I will continue to strive to satisfy both members of Emailmatters and their advertisers. I am a perfectionist and I apologize for my being arbitrary at times. I believe in continuous improvement. When I see problems with the way I interact. I jump to fix them.

Yes, you are right. I make too many rules. But there are too many variables to work with. There are people who are not wanting to oblige. There are people who just don't care about what they are doing or what I am doing. They are there looking for a handout.




Cheap shots? I'd say the writer is angry and attempting to express discontent through a language which he/she has not yet mastered; just as your anger has been expressed through referrence to Ohio State, intoxication and Purina. No offense meant.....just an observation. I think we can address the issues, without "cheap shots."

As for the points I raised, Mike, don't bother with checking back-ups; I'm not interested in the money. The only reason I join "paid-to" programs is to perform a test of my own to enable me to have some personal experience with programs that may be nominated for the GPTBoycott Seal of Approval. So, for me, the issue is not about money; the issue is the integrity of the webmaster and stability of the program.

Your question to me regarding my opinion on the 20 days is misdirected. I think you should be asking that of your members, instead.

I am pleased to know you do have the "vacation feature" available and hope your members take advantage of it. The fact that I had no knowledge of it is noone's fault but my own. The way I look at it, ignorance of the rules (like ignorance of law) is no excuse.

I, too, miss being a member, as there were features in use on your site that I found enjoyable and unique. By unique, I mean I have not seen them offered elsewhere. Again, the fact that I can no longer make use of these features is MY fault, noone else's; and, I accept that without reservation.

You commented that you make too many rules. In defense of that statement, I will simple say you have no alternative; members and advertisers alike should be able to see that. Your program is internet based, i.e., based upon something that is changing daily. As a program owner, you MUST be willing to adapt and overcome the obstacles that arise daily; AND, your members, as well as advertisers, must also be willing to adapt. The only "constant", in this internet society we've become, is that NOTHING is constant; you either adapt or you no longer exist.


Ron

emailmatters
26th July 2003, 15:46
Originally posted by DAzHiredGun



Cheap shots? I'd say the writer is angry and attempting to express discontent through a language which he/she has not yet mastered; just as your anger has been expressed through referrence to Ohio State, intoxication and Purina. No offense meant.....just an observation. I think we can address the issues, without "cheap shots."



Of course that person is angry. Bad defense on my part. I was mad and that's no excuse for using that sarcastic language.

I was expressing my objection to her following statement:

Originally posted by pierina
Hello! Take some time to read this warning about a real CHEATER. http://www.emailmatters.com is the biggest FRAUD on the internet.

The whole thing is sad and caught me by surprise. I knew there would be some upset people. I didn't think it would go as far as her calling me a fraud and having a few certain individuals describe me as a con artist in two of the most prominate forums in the industry.

Originally posted by DAzHiredGun

The only "constant", in this internet society we've become, is that NOTHING is constant; you either adapt or you no longer exist.


Exactly!

pierina
26th July 2003, 17:54
My experience of paid to read-services has been all but pleasant.
And I have seen the most hair-raising behaviour from webmasters at so called paid-for-reading-mail-sites. They are not saints because they drive an internetsite. As they probably will claim to be.
There was a site called:
http://www.gypsydad.com
I had more than 34 dollars in earnings and claimed them. Two days later the site was gone and so was my money.
When it comes to trapmails so have I seen people trying to make people click on linke by writing in the headline:
PAID MAIL
and then with a small text : cheater-link to catch dishonest people. Is that serious??How far are those people prepared to go to make people lose their earnings. And that is the point.
Why do they promise people earnings when they know how many expenses there are.
Scripts, computers, time, programs, hire a site.... etc..as he himself wrote about that the webmaster at emailmatters.com.
Maybe the whole idea is impossible to make profitable for the webmasters if they don't take the money the subscribers have earned!!And if that is so then they should better stop the service because it is dishonest .
And on my own behalf I want to say this concerning the test with the animals. I do really have to acknowledge that I answered all the answers.And that means that I didn't only choose the wrong alternative but also the right one. So why does the webmaster at emailmatters.com attach more importance to the wrong answer than the right one.
Foregone conclusion: He just want to to interpret everything to his own advantage.
And besides that he is selfish and cynical.
I am sorry that I am not speaking and writing English perfectly but I don't think I am absolutely that difficult to understand that you want to insinuate.

bradley1967
26th July 2003, 18:26
I have know Mike and Emailmatters since it came online in December of 2002!

If (and I know you all do) use a lot of GPTRE programs, you know there is alot of cheating on the go!

Mike has tried and had been sucessful in keeping the cheaters out, but the bad side is that some good people have been kicked also!

So the question comes down to, how do you run your own GPTRE site? THINK ABOUT THAT!

There are to many scripts out there now that read the GPTRE links with NO ONE at the keyboard!

As far as I concerened MIKE did the right thing!

I belong to over 10 GPTRE sites and at least half have CHEAT links! I have not had a problem beacause I read!

As for the long question and answer email Mike sent, I had to read to 4 times! BUT right at the beginning I knew it was a cheat email! (it was pretty Plain)! I GOT THE ANSWER! Along with alot of other people!

If you are having a hard time making money online! Done give Mike and EmailMatters a hard time, He is trying to keep it honest for us all! I am sorry for all the people who got burned, but it was your own fault!

Mike is the most honest and hardest working Webmaster I have met! I would stake my life on it!

Take care!

Bradley

emailmatters
26th July 2003, 18:27
Originally posted by pierina


Scripts, computers, time, programs, hire a site.... etc..as he himself wrote about that the webmaster at emailmatters.com.



What are you talking about here? I don't think I understand what it is you are trying to say.

bradley1967
26th July 2003, 18:42
I have many things to say about EmailMatters!

He is the MOST HONEST webmaster I have met!

I am sorry that some of you lost your accounts!

I am sorry you lost your accounts because you never to time to read the email!

I am sorry you lost your accounts because you could not understand the email!

But MIKE of EMAILMATTERS is the most honest webmaster I have known!

I have been with him since day 1!

I have even, myself clicked on a, CHEAT LINK!

Do you ever wonder why you ads get NO RESPONCE! Its because of cheaters!

Mike is trying to take care of that, and all you people can do is sh*t on him for it!

If you dont like what he is doing, I guess its good you are gone!

Enough said!

Bradley

DAzHiredGun
26th July 2003, 19:28
Originally posted by emailmatters


What are you talking about here? I don't think I understand what it is you are trying to say.

Mike, I think when the writer posted:

"Why do they promise people earnings when they know how many expenses there are.
Scripts, computers, time, programs, hire a site.... etc..as he himself wrote about that the webmaster at emailmatters.com."

IMO, the intent was to say:

Why do they promise people earnings when they know how many expenses there are, SUCH AS: Scripts, computers, time, programs, hire a site.... etc..as he himself wrote about that the webmaster at emailmatters.com?


Perhaps the writer is of the opinion webmasters are unable to pay members, as promised, due to site expenses.


Ron

emailmatters
26th July 2003, 19:54
Thank you. I thought that was what it meant.

I'd like to say, that I am sorry that honest hard working people go caught in the line of fire. My intent was to remove people that were not reading emails.

DAzHiredGun
27th July 2003, 08:15
Originally posted by pierina
My experience of paid to read-services has been all but pleasant.

There was a site called: http://www.gypsydad.com I had more than 34 dollars in earnings and claimed them. Two days later the site was gone and so was my money.



Re: Gypsydad

Posted this morning, you may be interested in reading this:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=11633#post11633


Ron

pierina
27th July 2003, 20:44
You Bradley1967 says first that you have no problem with cheatlinks. And then in your second contribution you declare
that you have in fact clicked on a cheatlink.
Don't you think that I also have passed the tests many times.
But the thing is that by sending these "cheatlinks over and over again till the person fails they don't proove that that person is a cheater. He or she has passed already and are not using cheatprograms etc...
But the methods are getting worser and worser.One more brazenly than the other. They knew no bounds does it seems like !
If you at any price want to get people deleted so will you go on with that kind of tests.
And if you shall have tests it shall at least be professional and not doubts shall there be if it is right or wrong.
It is rather serious to accuse people falsly to cheat.And take all their earnings.
Shall you have to sit and fear clicking a link that would cost you many dollars!??When you can earn only a few cents.
If you scroll down with the mouse and happens to click accidently does that make you a cheater???!!!!
No, if you want to catch a cheater you must endeavour to make it both with finess and accuracy. The methods at emailmatters.com
is not good enough to be used for that purpose.
If you are not sure that somebody is guilty of cheating you should better give people the benefit of the doubt .
But for sure there are some economical interest standing in the way as an impediment for some webmasters to do so.
And who is the cheater then???

bradley1967
28th July 2003, 17:02
Hi :)

Good responce! I have to agree with you on most of your points!

But again, I know Mike well, he is an honest person.

He is doing what he thinks is best for his program and advertizers!

Not trying to take you hard earned money away from you!

Take care.

Bradley

pierina
28th July 2003, 17:18
This is how the question was put.


It seems that you were paying attention to the email about who was getting deleted. What happened to you when I asked about Pigs and Horses? Were you intoxicated?
'''''''''''''''''''''''*************************** *********************************'''
My question is what makes you think so?
Do you think that could be the only reason to my answer?!.
I had been awake all night and it was about half past 4 in the morning. I was about to go to bed and wanted to clear my box before.I was tired and wanted to rush the whole thing.
Did click the links to have them loaded while I read the story in the mail. And only to find out that I was deleted.
What ever you and your fans are saying so isn't that a fair game you are sending out to the members.
I am not even sure it isn't you yourself (masqueraded to bradley1967) that have written the defense of emailmatters.com.But never mind that. It is just pathetic anyway. I am not trying to tell others what to think. I am writing about the facts. It is not an antipropaganda. But people has got the right to know how things are handled at emailmatters.com. If someone ever is thinking about signing up there I hope they think more than twice. Because it is not worth the time and everything. It is a timewasting site.And a money-theft-site as well. I f you like sitting an clicking as a slave unpaid and all that .Well then you should choose emailmatters.com.But if you are interested in the money you should better choose another program!Some that appreciate and cares for their readers.
Time is money - how much money has emailmatters.com stolen from me. Not only the 4 dollars but also a lot of my time and my hard clicking-work. I have never promised him to work for free for him .But he does use people.
The slavery is abolished!!!

bradley1967
28th July 2003, 17:25
I am Bradley Anderson and not Mike! lol

Right now I would not want to be Mike! lol (sorry buddy)

Again I understand your points! Well recieved on my end!

Like you will defend your postion about EM I will also mine!

Thats what makes this planet great, we can AGREE to DISAGREE!

Take care and best of luck in your other endeviours!

(and yes my spelling is bad! lol)

Bradley :)

pierina
28th July 2003, 17:54
Hello! Ok,bradley1967 you are bradley Anderson just as you write.Sorry for that I for a moment doubt that.
I am glad we do agree on some points.
Still I just want to say that I am not clicking as a charity, nor am I a sponsor or a slave. I think it would be more fair to give people a second chance and listen to what they have to say.
When I still was a member of emailmatters.com I did also find it rather good.I thought in some kind of way that if I by mistake should click on a link that the webmaster would be reasonable and interesting in the truth about the mistake.
I didn't think he fanaticly did followed his own ideas without even listening to what explanations people had got.
I think the whole thing is just preposterous .
It is a shame.
What could have been so good is now a scandal.
Hope he will change attitude.

nadiaasoma
5th August 2003, 11:40
There is nothing you can say that will change his attitude.
He has no respect for his members.
The way he wanted to restore Daz's account says it all!
Let it be, I don't think you will get enough people along with a boycot.
I must say I wish my English was as good as yours.

Marian :baaa:

pierina
5th August 2003, 13:07
I agree with you that it seems to be a really hopeless case.
That is too bad.
Thought that argumentation could make people change their minds and make them review their decisions.
And start to think of others too.
But it seems like unrealistic . He seems to doesn't care at all.
Rather sad ! He is going to continue making people sad, frustrated and disappointed. And make people lose their trust for such programs. And make them feel aversion and mistrust to webmasters for paid-for-reading-email-programs. Make people feel uneasy about such programs and hesitations for it as well.
They do really achieve something by acting in such a way, don't they?
But the main thing he doesn't suffer, right?!

PGRAN
5th August 2003, 14:18
I would like to add a note to this just about cheater links in general. I am having a good day today and can sit and read the emails and forums without a problem. There are other days when due to my chronic illness I can not see well enough to read a whole lot so I skim over the material and get to the link where usually the print is larger. There are also days when due to my illness I have taken meds that make me not able to concentrate as well as I think I am. These things have caused me to click on cheater links occ and there is one program out there that has solved the problem for me. If you are after people who can not read english put it in the subject line to don't click the link or cheat link or something. That helps people like me who do have visual problems or concentration problems. I am not making excuses just offering a solution to the problem. Pat

pierina
5th August 2003, 15:44
Yes PGRAN you have got a good point there! There must be an legible easy to read and hard to miss warning-text to avoid that honest people click the DELETE-link. I agree very much about that.
It isn't right to delete and accuse people for no good reason.
I think that when it comes to trivias it would be better if there were a confirmation behind the link. Kind of like this:
You have clicked alternative B. Are you sure you wanna answer alternative B that is etc.... confirm by clicking here...
Then you could exclude that somebody has clicked on a link by a mistake. And yes it doesn't harm to have a service choice of bold type and bigger letters for them who do need that.
But maybe that is a matter of expense.

brisatrue
11th August 2003, 23:01
Well I've heard enough about Emailmatters to never join it, that's for sure. Anybody who makes fun of someone's education because they have an Hispanic name is racist in my book. And the way he pandered to Ron was more ulliminating than a see-through blouse. I do think people's true natures come out when they are on the defense, and this was no exception.
Ron I think you gave him great advice to direct the caring questions he had for you about his site to the people who matter, his members. There are some people who cannot see people as equal, no matter how hard they try. Not only does he have this condescending attitude toward an innocent member who is angry and has the sin of not using perfect English, but he whines on about his job as though the members of a program don't have it equally hard.
My mind's made up about that, and thanks to this forum, I don't have to wait too long before I figure it out.
Michele

emailmatters
12th August 2003, 00:26
More self-defense of this EmailMatters Discussion from the owner.

Originally posted by brisatrue
Anybody who makes fun of someone's education because they have an Hispanic name is racist in my book.

What hispanic name? Pierena? She told me she was from Sweden. Has she told you about her new EmailMatters Account? I don't think she's sharing that with anyone reading this forum.

Originally posted by brisatrue
And the way he pandered to Ron was more ulliminating than a see-through blouse. I do think people's true natures come out when they are on the defense, and this was no exception.


Here, here. I was discussing what Ron had to say about EmailMatters and explaining my grief that he lost his account due to inactivity due to his rigorous job schedule last spring. I think we were both agreeing that his court work was more important and that it was a shame he lost some accounts while he was gone. I found it impossible to go back through his records to see what the losses were when he mentioned inaccuracies. Those could have been from a number of explained happenings. The following might explain.

I was debiting accounts when people were getting the cheat links wrong. I found that unfair to the honest up line members and I have been trying to pay them back for months now trying to make EmailMatters happen for them. They are making it happen for me.

The definition of pandering is catering and exploiting the weaknesses of…

Ron and I have been acquainted for a long time. I was merely speaking to him.

The matter of this discussion is about Pierena getting her account deleted because she was chose the wrong answer by either cheating, not reading, or didn't understand that Pigs and Horses are Animals. (They are not Dogs, not Chocolate and certainly not Insects.) What's so hard about that?

I admitted that I was wrong about ending it early and calling it mandatory. It wasn't mandatory. I don't know why I said that in the first place. That part was unfair. Yes, I should have let it last expire when I said it was going to expire.

Originally posted by brisatrue
but he whines on about his job as though the members of a program don't have it equally hard.


No, webmasters definitely have it harder. I knew that before I began. You misconceived the unasked for information I was conveying for whining. Is that what it is? I learn something new everyday. I don't think you are ready to hear about what else we have to do.

I'm glad there are people who understand and pitch in every now and then. The biggest asset in EmailMatters is it's a community of people who know that their input counts. Not everyone speaks up, but those who do are listened to.

DAzHiredGun
12th August 2003, 14:34
Michele, I hope you aren't basing your decision on what happened with me. I have no problem with what happened to my account. The account deletion was due to inactivity on my part. As far as I'm concerned, the discrepancies in my account balance was due to script error. I hold no ill feelings toward Mike. I have a job to do; so does he. Of all the programs I have been a member of, EmailMatters STILL ranks in the top five. Without question, in my opinion, Mike has one of the best programs available; and, I say that without reservation. Any time I had a question, Mike responded before I expected. I did most of my advertising through EmailMatters. In summary, I think there are a lot more satisfied members, than not; again, just my opinion based on my own experience with Mike and the program.


Ron

DAzHiredGun
12th August 2003, 14:38
Originally posted by emailmatters
More self-defense of this EmailMatters Discussion from the owner.



What hispanic name? Pierena? She told me she was from Sweden. Has she told you about her new EmailMatters Account? I don't think she's sharing that with anyone reading this forum.





No, I don't think I've seen that mentioned in either thread.


Ron

pierina
12th August 2003, 16:59
Originally posted by emailmatters
More self-defense of this EmailMatters Discussion from the owner.




The matter of this discussion is about Pierena getting her account deleted because she was chose the wrong answer by either cheating, not reading, or didn't understand that Pigs and Horses are Animals. (They are not Dogs, not Chocolate and certainly not Insects.) What's so hard about that?



You just forget to tell people about that your trivia, test, or what ever you call it was not made by a professional at least it was not made in a professional manner. I answered all answers.I answered correct and incorrect because your test was not reliable! So you say that I don't know that pigs and horses are animals!! I should would like to claim that it is you who don't know how to make a TEST!!! And you who are sitting and choosing the answer for me!

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 17:11
Could someone show me this test? I'd love to see it.

DAzHiredGun
12th August 2003, 17:28
Originally posted by Tmarie99
Could someone show me this test? I'd love to see it.


Here ya go, see the next-to-the-last post on the page:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3153&perpage=25&pagenumber=2



Ron

pierina
12th August 2003, 17:49
If you create a test were all answers can be chosen at the same time .Then you should better try to find yourself another task!
Making fool of people when the only fool are yourself! It is a scandal!
Besides that a test shall not look like anything else than a test. So shall it most certainly not be masquaraded to a paid-for-email-mail! So shall it instead be fair and voluntary.
If you don't want to spend the time and the endeavourance that it takes to make a reliable test, just don't even think about it!
219 members can't be wrong!!!! The test SUCKS!!! The test is a cheater's work! And he is also arbitrary enough to choose which answer of the four you chose , you really choose. His speciality is to bore people with huge forewords that only make you skip it all. So you miss the rules (that is unfair anyway) but a must to pass!
So do they take action the arbitrary webmasters!!

Look below what that self-righteous, smug, conceited webmaster roll wallow in self-conceit is writing afterwards:

Your username is pierina

Cash Balance: 4.1978972
Point Balance: 32210.01

The English Test is Over. To simplify things I decided to Delete everyone who
clicked on Answer #1 which was an incorrect answer. It had the highest number of
clicks among the 3 wrong answers and the other 2 will most likely be duplicates
and a few strays. Don’t worry…I’ll do it again and make sure we get them.

As for the people who clicked the correct answer ANIMALS, you get to keep your
account as well as the 1 cent for getting the right answer.

For those of you who chose incorrectly, your account will be deleted within the
hour. NO EXCEPTIONS! There will be 219 accounts removed.

This test was not aimed towards cheaters It was a test to see who is paying
attention and who can understand what they are reading.

It was not meant to embarrass anyone nor was it meant to steal from people.

Mike Hawkins
Owner – EmailMatters

“Please pay attention to our sponsors, they are paying you for your time.”
END

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 18:38
THAT was the test? I thought it was some hard-bitten, tough to understand, obscure reference to even MORE obscure information.
I mean, aren't pigs animals everywhere? I don't claim to know a lot about Sweden, but in the 3 yrs we lived in Germany and visited
Austria we met Turks, Germans, French, British, Filipinos, oh, people from virtually everywhere, to them, pigs are animals.
While he probably could have worded it better, frankly, he's right, the English was plain enough that there really is no excuse for getting the wrong answer. Beyond either inattention (my guess) or stupidity (I doubt these people are stupid).
He's right in saying...
Please pay attention to our sponsors, they are paying you for your time

I could support you, pierina, if the test had been over something more difficult, or even if it hadn't been multiple choice.

pierina
12th August 2003, 19:27
I understand that the purpose by asking that( about the test) was only to get an opportunity to play important. Yes, there are such individuals that can't make it in another way than on somebody else's expense!
And there are no limits about how blown-up some people can become by belittleling other people. Congratulations you have found the right place to put on airs .
Everybody are so pleased to assist and facilitate such a manner here. There are just no limits on how far they are prepared to go to benefit that!
And correct me if I am wrong , but haven't you got multiple acccounts here on gptboycott.Today you are Tmarie99 and yesterday you were..... you know whom yourself.
Or have you got a doppelganger ?

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 19:51
And correct me if I am wrong , but haven't you got multiple acccounts here on gptboycott.Today you are Tmarie99 and yesterday you were..... you know whom yourself.


You better BELIEVE I'll correct you. You are not only inattentive you are WRONG. I have ONE id here, no account, I don't do GPF, but have met a few here that I like and come here to "see" them.
Now, you can STICK your stupid little accusations right up your bum if there's enough room by your head.

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 19:52
BTW, Who exactly are you accusing me of being? Put up or shut up.

pierina
12th August 2003, 20:28
I don't want to hear/read a word about that test.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my knowledges about animals. As the matter of fact I own a horse on my own and have owned several before. I have also taken a course in harness racing and I am for sure not amused by all people on this forum giving me a hard time. The test presented in this forum is not correct shown since the foreword is not attached. To give a fair picture of the test it must be complete.
And as I see it there isn't a coincident that so many people are trying to make themselves funny by alluding on the intelligens etc....
I think that only people with a lot of inferiority complex for their own tiny intelligens have a need for running down on the people who failed that test. People who really are intelligen wouldn't keep doing such things!
I should would like to see all of yours results from a IQ test EQ test and
a tricky test as well.
Under the circumstances there are in this forum so is it difficult to be tricked. Especially since you know about it now.
ANd none of them who were failing the test would neither fail it here . So just STOP it!!! Don't act like besserwissers!
It is cheap! It is not OKAY!
But let's say you were exhausted and stressed and had to rush could you take it for a normal paid-for-email then?!If you think you are so extraordinary like superman, titan or a batman or something??
I am sorry but I have to make you disappointed but you are not.

emailmatters
12th August 2003, 20:43
Originally posted by pierina
But let's say you were exhausted and stressed and had to rush could you take it for a normal paid-for-email then?!If you think you are so extraordinary like superman, titan or a batman or something??
I am sorry but I have to make you disappointed but you are not.

I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN READING MY PTR EMAILS, in fear that I would make a mistake!

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 20:51
Have you lost your mind? I NEVER said anything about anyone's intelligence other than
stupidity (I doubt these people are stupid).

In case you don't get it, that means I do not think that people who answered wrong are stupid. I SAID I thought you were inattentive.
And I am STILL waiting for an answer to the question I asked you... That being... EXACTLY who am I supposed to be?

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 21:15
Here's one I just took... I removed the correct answers... No cheating! heehee 31 of 38, score 129... Not too shabby.
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emailmatters
12th August 2003, 21:18
Geesh! I don't think I'll be using that one. :stupid:

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 21:25
It's a tough one, I'll give you that. But, miss "don't you dare say something I don't like cuz I'll make false ungrounded accusations" asked for test results. She got'em. Far be it from me to deny any reasonable request.
;)





HEY! You callin' me stupid in your reply??? LOL :hehe: :p

emailmatters
12th August 2003, 21:33
Heck no. LOL

Just playing around and wanted to imply I wouldn't do that well on the test you took.

:D :hehe: :D

Tmarie99
12th August 2003, 21:38
Oh, Give me a test of logic and math and I can kick some butt.

brisatrue
12th August 2003, 22:10
Hey Ron, no I didn't base my opinion about EMail matters on what the owner said about or to you. I formed my opinion due to his entire post and there were just too many "i'm sorry's" and/or reasons to be sorry for me to ever choose this as a program I'd join. I did not mention his tests, just his tone.
I now think it really stinks that pierina has now insulted this entire forum, including TMarie, out of anger, and defended herself right out the door, if you know what I mean.
EMail Matters just isn't for me.
Sorry
Michele

lil crusader
12th August 2003, 22:57
I'm still waiting to find out who Tmarie was yesterday...lol. :p :p

(sheesh...you think you know somebody and then you find out that she's got a secret identity! :hehe: )

Rob
13th August 2003, 06:12
Originally posted by Tmarie99
THAT was the test? I thought it was some hard-bitten, tough to understand, obscure reference to even MORE obscure information.



That was pretty much my reaction, lol.

I might employ this tactic myself sometime in the future, sounds like a good idea.

Rob

Rob
13th August 2003, 06:15
Originally posted by Tmarie99
You better BELIEVE I'll correct you. You are not only inattentive you are WRONG. I have ONE id here, no account, I don't do GPF, but have met a few here that I like and come here to "see" them.
Now, you can STICK your stupid little accusations right up your bum if there's enough room by your head.

I'd just like to point out that for the sake of clarity, I ran an I.P. trace on TMarie99's account, and can confirm that only one user is accessing the GPTBoycott Forums from her I.P. address - TMarie99.

Rob

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 07:41
Thanks, Rob.

pierina
13th August 2003, 11:07
Are you a substitute for brela101201 , cheryllynn and lil crusader. You "work" on shift don't you!? You really enter into a pact .
Never someone that gives a break.
I don't think you are so smart yourselves!

lil crusader
13th August 2003, 11:22
Oh darn -- she's blown our cover ladies. :D

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 12:05
You're kidding right? I've met only one other person with a "Persecution" complex as bad as yours.



Originally posted by pierina
Are you a substitute for brela101201 , cheryllynn and lil crusader. You "work" on shift don't you!? You really enter into a pact .
Never someone that gives a break.
I don't think you are so smart yourselves!

pierina
13th August 2003, 12:38
I should hold me to the subject. I should not avoid the subject!
I should not talk about the persons!!!
I should not talk about anything else than emailmatters.com because that is the subject of this thread!!!
Where are the critics now??
Now is it great to avoid the subject for this thread, right?!!
Go on all of you hypocrites!
Don't be shy!Show everybody what a bunch a doublemoralists ( double morale =double standard[s of morality] ) you are!
You never contradictes yourself ,do you!?

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 12:48
WHAT are you babbling about? I commented on the big tough "test" that you were complaining about. You proceded to assault me. You took the topic away. So, I'm guessing that when you throw out the word, "Hypocrite", you're looking in a mirror? It's ok for YOU to be nasty, but no one is supposed to come back? Is that how it works in your little world?
I never attempted to avoid the thread, YOU led the way.
Please, Explain where you see my "double standards". You asked about IQ tests, I gave you my scores. You tried to accuse me of being others, Rob slam dunked that theory. Then when you can't get anyone to get themselves banned, and you realize that we (I am anyway) are only laughing, you start babbling incoherently.
Come on, you can't LEAD the topic away from the original, THEN complain because we're not talking about the original.


Originally posted by pierina
I should hold me to the subject. I should not avoid the subject!
I should not talk about the persons!!!
I should not talk about anything else than emailmatters.com because that is the subject of this thread!!!
Where are the critics now??
Now is it great to avoid the subject for this thread, right?!!
Go on all of you hypocrites!
Don't be shy!Show everybody what a bunch a doublemoralists ( double morale =double standard[s of morality] ) you are!
You never contradictes yourself ,do you!?

pierina
13th August 2003, 12:58
Or are these kind of rules only created solely for me personally mayhaps!?
Should I feel honoured??!! ( and / or flattered)?
Just tell me !
I am so curious!
Please let me know what the essence about it is all about!
Is it tolerable to hunt some people on the forum. May I see the list of those, please!

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:01
I'm not talking about rules. I'm just stating FACTS...
You took the thread off topic. So, YOU have no right complaining about it going off. YOU took it there.

pierina
13th August 2003, 13:07
Performance from Tmarie99 !
Just look at her what a talent!
Totally acting innocent. she has never done anything wrong , ever! Fantastic , it is not every day you bump into a flawless person!
As the matter of fact it is so rare that this is a big senstation!
Call the news! A perfect never-doing-anything-wrong person has emerged on this forum. Truly a one-time-in-your-life experience if ever-happening-experience WOW!!!!! WOW!!!! Amazing!
By the way don't forget to link to the other forum/thread about emailmatters.com!!!!
That is extremely important!

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:11
LOL Speaking of performances! LOL How about pierina's performance of the MARTYR?!?! Let's hear it folks, Give her a round of applause!!!
Of course, the sane people out there know that REAL martyrs don't point fingers and whine. They also don't call people "hypocrite" or accuse others of having "double standards". ESP when they led the way with their own actions.
See, p? There's a law of physics... "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction"... You took an action, now you can't complain because of the consequences.
Oh, and I've been insulted by the best, you're going to have to try MUCH harder than this if you want me to shut up. LOL LOL

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:12
On the other hand, My mom always told me "Never fight a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.".... Well, I think Mom would understand if she were still around to see this. :D ;)

pierina
13th August 2003, 13:20
I have not asked you for your opinion about my intelligens , neither some kind of testifying about my assumed inattention. What do you know??!!
You sit there and act as if you were so important.
I want to tell you that I have told about the reason and I don't need any speculations.
I thought that I had got my right to tell about a program without being a target for taunting.
I don't give much for your IQ test. A test must be made under controled formes.
Try to be a little humble (lowly meek ) thank you!

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:52
Then don't post on a public forum. Especially when you failed the test because you failed to pay attention. What it all boils down to is that YOU failed. You made excuses for your failure, and still want to blame the program owner.
He didn't make you tired, did he? Nor did he stress you out. He simply asked a question. If you were too exhausted and stressed and had to rush then you should not have answered. You should have waited until a later time when you could actually read what was sent to you.
I didn't say anything about your intelligence, as a matter of fact, I SAID (again) that I doubted you people were stupid, just inattentive.
Sorry, but if you don't want to see the opinions of everyone who chooses to post, then you really shouldn't post in public.

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:53
OH!! and P.S.
It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.

heehee... I cannot be humble about my intelligence. I know I'm smart. I try not to gloat about it. But I will not ever deny it.

brisatrue
13th August 2003, 13:53
You said I hate white people or I am a white person who hates other white people? Just stop already!
Do you ever take a breath, P? Or will you not stop until you are 100% rejected? Cuz it's getting close.
Michele
PS> Don't even try the character assassination on me again.

brisatrue
13th August 2003, 13:58
Originally posted by Tmarie99
My mom always told me "Never fight a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent"
Thank you for reminding me of this, T. (taking shifts with you tonight at 9 right? LOL)
Michele

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 13:59
LOL, You'll have to check with Crusader. She may want that shift this evening. LOL ;)

brisatrue
13th August 2003, 14:08
Originally posted by pierina
I thought that I had got my right to tell about a program without being a target for taunting.

No one with as many accusations as you have flung has that right, Pierina.

pierina
13th August 2003, 15:59
Apropos of your erroneous statement "PS> Don't even try the character assassination on me again." end of the quotation.
Are you serious?!!


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Assassinate:dispatch, eliminate, hit, kill, liquidate, murder, slay
Assassination
As`sas`si`na´tion n. The act of assassinating; a killing by treacherous violence.
Assassinate
As`sas´sin`ate v. t. [LL. assassinatus, p. p. of assassinare.] 1. To kill by surprise or secret assault; to murder by treacherous violence.

As`sas´sin`ate n. 1. An assassination, murder, or murderous assault. [Obs.]

Thesaurus:
Synonyms: purge, kill, murder.

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Secterism: extreme coterie ( clique), group- or party- athmosphere, sect essence, factional sectism

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Entry: sectarian
Function: adjective
Definition: exclusive
Synonyms: bigoted, clannish, cliquish, dissident, doctrinaire, dogmatic, factional, fanatic, fanatical, heretical, heterodox, hidebound, insular, limited, local, narrow-minded, nonconforming, nonconformist, parochial, partisan, provincial, rigid, schismatic, skeptical, small-town, splinter, unorthodox
Concept: exclusion


source:
http://thesaurus.reference.com/

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Does secterist not mean sectarian in English?
Oh, that's too bad for me.
Another mistake. But I have seen that is used in English-speaking people's discussions. Example: Instead it looks to mee that a secterist fight has started
where the most importent is "fundamentalism" and "ego-improvement
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racism
rä´siz um (n.) A thought or belief that one race is better than another race. racist n. A thought or belief that one race is better than another race.

Thesaurus:
Synonyms: clan, compete, competition, contend, contest, course, dash, folk, hasten, hurry, lineage, match, meet, run, speed, stock, strain, stream, tribe

Antonyms: dawdle, dwell, linger

More Related Words: Anglophobia, Jim Crow, Jim Crow law, Russophobia, abhorrence, abomination, anti-Semitism, antipathy, apartheid, aversion, bias, bigotry, black power, black supremacy, chauvinism, class consciousness, class distinction, class hatred, class prejudice, class war, color bar, color line, despitefulness, detestation, discrimination, dislike, execration, fascism, hate, hatred, illiberality, know-nothingism, loathing, male chauvinist, malevolence, malice, malignity, minority prejudice, misandry, misanthropy, misogyny, odium, one-sidedness, partiality, prejudice, race hatred, race prejudice, race snobbery, racial discrimination, racialism, red-baiting, repugnance, segregation, sex discrimination, sexism, social barrier, social discrimination, spite, spitefulness, superpatriotism, ultranationalism, unfairness, vials of hate, vials of wrath, white power, white supremacy, xenophobia


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Read and learn! It is not easy to know what every word means.But as you can see any wordbook in the world describes secterism as assassination or vice versa if that was the word you aimed to!But if you ever find one - let me know immedeately. I do only guess that it is that choice of word you are associating/relating to because I think it is horrible that a person is doing such a conclusion.
I wonder how it is possible to make such a misjudgement.Terrifying!

lil crusader
13th August 2003, 17:46
Originally posted by Tmarie99
LOL, You'll have to check with Crusader. She may want that shift this evening. LOL ;)

I'm afraid I need the nite off -- the hospital had a server crash this a.m. so I'm going to be working tonite to make up for lost time....PLUS, I can't miss Big Brother at 9!

I've got the utmost confidence in both of you T and M! :p

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 18:18
Originally posted by lil crusader
Oh darn -- she's blown our cover ladies. :D

Shoot!! who gave her enough hints for her to figure it out? Oh, wait, someone HAD to have told her... I don't know that she can figure out hints, since she DOESN'T READ THE POSTS, anyway!

Cheryl

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 18:23
Originally posted by pierina
Performance from Tmarie99 !
Just look at her what a talent!
Totally acting innocent. she has never done anything wrong , ever! Fantastic , it is not every day you bump into a flawless person!
As the matter of fact it is so rare that this is a big senstation!
Call the news! A perfect never-doing-anything-wrong person has emerged on this forum. Truly a one-time-in-your-life experience if ever-happening-experience WOW!!!!! WOW!!!! Amazing!
By the way don't forget to link to the other forum/thread about emailmatters.com!!!!
That is extremely important!

You need to get a BBBBBBIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGG clue!!! Dude, you took this off topic, no one else. You wanna know WHY you took it off topic? Because someone called you on something, and AGAIN you could not answer because YOU were talking crap and false allegations, and you have NOTHING to back up your falsities. And you STILL haven't answered not only MY question from the other thread, but any number of members here who asked you questions. ALL unanswered.:baaa:

Cheryl

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 18:27
Originally posted by pierina
I have not asked you for your opinion about my intelligens , neither some kind of testifying about my assumed inattention. What do you know??!!
You sit there and act as if you were so important.
I want to tell you that I have told about the reason and I don't need any speculations.
I thought that I had got my right to tell about a program without being a target for taunting.
I don't give much for your IQ test. A test must be made under controled formes.
Try to be a little humble (lowly meek ) thank you!

You wouldn't be getting busted on if you didn't LIE about emailmatters.

Personally, I think you set the torque wrench a bit to high and it caused you to blow your head gasket. You should LEARN to read and pay attention to such important things.

Cheryl

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 18:41
Originally posted by pierina
Apropos of your erroneous statement "PS> Don't even try the character assassination on me again." end of the quotation.
Are you serious?!!


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Assassinate:dispatch, eliminate, hit, kill, liquidate, murder, slay
Assassination
As`sas`si`na´tion n. The act of assassinating; a killing by treacherous violence.
Assassinate
As`sas´sin`ate v. t. [LL. assassinatus, p. p. of assassinare.] 1. To kill by surprise or secret assault; to murder by treacherous violence.

As`sas´sin`ate n. 1. An assassination, murder, or murderous assault. [Obs.]



I cut your message, as it was incredibly and unneccesarily LONG. At any rate, if you have even an inkling of a piece of IQ over 50, you would have know to look up the term "character assassination." Which is what you did to emailmatters and Mike:
Roget’s II: The New Thesaurus, Third Edition. 1995.


character assassination

NOUN: The expression of injurious, malicious statements about someone: aspersion, calumniation, calumny, defamation, denigration, detraction, scandal, slander, traducement, vilification. Law : libel. See ATTACK, CRIMES, LAW.


Cheryl with an IQ of 150, and who posted that just to bust yer butt (I lost count of how many times you called me stupid, stupid). <<<Gloating>>>

Tmarie99
13th August 2003, 19:03
Nice to finally meet the other person I'm supposed to be!!!

brisatrue
13th August 2003, 19:09
Originally posted by cheryllynn
[B]I cut your message, as it was incredibly and unneccesarily LONG.
Thank God for you Cheryllynn!
She defines every word I use ad nauseum. Oops.
LOL
Michele

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 19:14
Originally posted by Tmarie99
Nice to finally meet the other person I'm supposed to be!!!

Well, hi dere, Marie, nice ta meetcha too!!

Cheryl

cheryllynn
13th August 2003, 19:17
Originally posted by brisatrue
Thank God for you Cheryllynn!
She defines every word I use ad nauseum. Oops.
LOL
Michele

Yah, and she'll probably look up "ad" and "nauseaum" separately and give 3 pages of worthless definitions. :baaa:

anonypoo

brisatrue
13th August 2003, 20:14
Originally posted by cheryllynn
Yah, and she'll probably look up "ad" and "nauseaum" separately and give 3 pages of worthless definitions. :baaa:

anonypoo
May not be so bad, maybe she'll find her portrait in there somewhere :)
:X oops again

DAzHiredGun
13th August 2003, 22:40
Originally posted by pierina
I should hold me to the subject. I should not avoid the subject!
I should not talk about the persons!!!
I should not talk about anything else than emailmatters.com because that is the subject of this thread!!!
Where are the critics now??
Now is it great to avoid the subject for this thread, right?!!
Go on all of you hypocrites!
Don't be shy!Show everybody what a bunch a doublemoralists ( double morale =double standard[s of morality] ) you are!
You never contradictes yourself ,do you!?


Is that challenge directed towards me? Contrary to what you may think, I do not live here within the threads of this forum. I have a family, a career and a life that requires my attention elsewhere. There are no double-standards here that I am aware of. To be perfectly clear, I am neither shy nor hypocritical, particularly when I feel someone is questioning my honesty or integrity. I'll agree with you that this thread has gotten off topic; and, to prevent further criticism (good, bad or indifferent), I'll lock this thread.....but will leave the other one open. I trust ALL of you can find your way there, without a link.


Ron