Jay Dillar and Sherry

[mommiz]

I was sent a link from a ptr about James Montroy (Owner of Jay dillars, Supercash, Ebiz, etc, etc, etc, etc,). I guess he is a sex offender who is noncompliant and his ptrs are not going to be updated, etc. I tried to login and I don't exist. I believe he is in jail. So all of you expecting payout, you could make copies of your earning stats, but this doesn't look good. I thought something was wrong because my emails have dwindled and no response from support.

For more info, see the GetPaidForum

[nadiaasoma]

Exposing a child to harmful material?

I get so much porn from hitexchange-programs, if they were all convicted for it there wouldn't be a program left to surf.

I'm Dutch and not well known with American law and I'm not informed
on the delict, can someone give me some more information or is
this all there is?

Marian

[govind]

It's a sad story!

[nadiaasoma]

Originally posted by govind
It's a sad story!

It is.
I've read some more about it and it looks dirty but I think it has nothing to do with gptr.

Marian

[kglaser]

Actually, it's extremely relevant to GPTR, as several of those charges (and convictions) dealt with their writing bad checks and attempting to defraud one or more insurance companies. These are dishonest people--not just one-time offenders, either--and I and many others now do not trust them to pay their members what they are owed. Since Jay just completely disappeared almost a month ago, yet has been online in the past few days at least requesting payments from programs and such, but won't address anyone's concerns, I can only conclude that his programs are seriously ill, if not already dead. This entire sordid business goes hand-in-glove with the PTR industry.

[nadiaasoma]

You may be right, I couldn't acces the first link at gpf.
It's difficult to seperate truth and hype from all postings.

Marian

[DAzHiredGun]

Originally posted by kglaser
Actually, it's extremely relevant to GPTR, as several of those charges (and convictions) dealt with their writing bad checks and attempting to defraud one or more insurance companies. These are dishonest people--not just one-time offenders, either--and I and many others now do not trust them to pay their members what they are owed. Since Jay just completely disappeared almost a month ago, yet has been online in the past few days at least requesting payments from programs and such, but won't address anyone's concerns, I can only conclude that his programs are seriously ill, if not already dead. This entire sordid business goes hand-in-glove with the PTR industry.


You've made several valid points k, specifically the relevance to the industry and the "habitual criminal" background which includes convictions/judgements for fraudulent behavior. I hope people are not thinking they can make a case of fraud against either of them after having voluntarily unsubscribed from their programs out of disgust for what has surfaced pertaining to the Montroy's respective criminal histories.

And the saga continues with a purported e-mail from "Jay" concerning the specifics of his and Sherry's recent unavailability and disappearance from the internet. This IS NOT something to be taken lightly as the e-mail indicates. At the time of this posting, I am just beginning to read the thread below and have no idea as to whether the information contained within the alleged e-mail is factual. Form your own opinion:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=57747

FYI, I finished the 22 page thread after 2 1/2 hrs. of reading. It implies "Jay" and Sherry had been arrested in possession of over 11 kilos (25 lbs.) of cocaine; and, Jay has been released from custody but Sherry is being held without bond.

On a final note, there is reference made within the thread concerning "wiretapping." IF TRUE, "wiretapping" indicates extensive intelligence gathering and a prolonged investigation into confirmed drug activity. Getting the Court to issue an Order directing enforcement agencies to "tap" a phone is not as easily done as portrayed for our pleasure via TV or movies. A great deal of "probable cause" MUST exist or the Court would simply decline to issue such an Order.


Ron

[Poncer]

But, there could be lawsuits by many people against Jay, not just from fraud. He has slandered so many people, including me. Now, if a lot of people complained about everything from giving him $500 for that program he created to other things, he would be more in trouble. Another thing that might work is report him to his hosts about all these charges and all that as well. I don't think the hosting companies will be too happy with what he is doing. About the coke? Some people are speculating that they used the money that people gave to him to buy that, but I don't think it is true. I think that story of the arrested of coke is just a fib to throw people off for the real reasons. It seems like a game to Jay.

[nadiaasoma]

Sorry Poncer, I was right and you were wrong, lol.

But let's stick to the facts, if it's thrue what Jay says in the emails
about the drugs, than it is a serieus mather.
Don't speculate about what other people might do.
If you want to report him, do it yourselve!

Marian

[Poncer]

Actually, if you look up for the news in Wisconsin, it would have been a big news story since these things would appear in newspapers and on the tv news. Since nobody found anything related to the news on any drug bust except for last year, then this story is false. Sherry is on a five years probation which means she is on parole since 2001 for DWI. The parole violation would make more sense than drug possession.

[kglaser]

I tried hard not to reply anymore, but just can't help it ;)
Have to ask this:
Why on EARTH would he make up a story about Sherry being in jail for possession of enough cocaine to paint the foul lines on every baseball field in America...if it weren't true? What could he be trying to hide by saying that instead?
The mind boggles (well, mine anyway).
If, as Poncer stated, Jay likes to play games like that, then I must conclude that he's a pretty unbalanced person. What's fun about falsely accusing your wife of drug trafficking when she's in jail for another reason??
Good grief.

[DAzHiredGun]

How does one make sense out of non-sense, k? I agree, that's a sick game to play......if it is, indeed, a game.


Ron

[Poncer]

Remember his abuse to Sherry on the forums I think back in December? This is when she was hurt and crying because she messed up. Well, if he did that to her not caring what he posted in front of others, I would not put it past him to do it again with these lies. Someone said something about domestic abuse as well. As others are starting to say, like me as well, Jay might be on the run. He may not be in the state of Wisconsin at all now. All this is just weird since there seems to be no case about any major drugbust and all that. That is why so many people are having troubles believing these stories. Once a liar always a liar which Jay is, and Ron proved that Jay was a liar about me.

[DAzHiredGun]

At this point, my only opinion on this matter is that people should concentrate more on maintaining their own sense of dignity and if they feel they must judge, then such should be done based on fact, not speculation. To my knowledge, other than prior criminal arrests, very few facts have been revealed; however, threads are filled with speculation leading nowhere.


Ron

[lil crusader]

Originally posted by Poncer
Actually, if you look up for the news in Wisconsin, it would have been a big news story since these things would appear in newspapers and on the tv news. Since nobody found anything related to the news on any drug bust except for last year, then this story is false. Sherry is on a five years probation which means she is on parole since 2001 for DWI. The parole violation would make more sense than drug possession.

David: I may be wrong about this, but I don't believe "probation" and "parole" are the same thing. Probation does not involve jail time -- it's a period of "keep your nose clean" time in order to stay out of jail for a particular offense. On the other hand, parole comes after serving a jail sentence and being paroled (let out early) -- it's also a "keep your nose clean" period, but violating it means returning to jail.

If Sherry rec'd 5 years probation in X year, then violating that probation wouldn't be called a "parole violation."

[DAzHiredGun]

You're right, they are two different things. A probation violation can possibly get the violator sent to prison for the remainder of the probationary sentence, depending on two things: the severity of the violation; and, the Court's (Judge's) attitude toward violators.


Ron

[Rob]

Originally posted by DAzHiredGun
At this point, my only opinion on this matter is that people should concentrate more on maintaining their own sense of dignity and if they feel they must judge, then such should be done based on fact, not speculation. To my knowledge, other than prior criminal arrests, very few facts have been revealed; however, threads are filled with speculation leading nowhere.


Ron

Hear hear.
I think it's important we keep sight of the facts in a situation like this and realise that most of what will undoubtedly be read about "Jay Dillar" in the coming weeks is speculation and/or opinion.

[Poncer]

And also now Sherry's parole officer is now wanting information about Sherry's online activity. Pretty soon, someone who is watching Jay might get involved as well. There are two posts over at the Get Paid forum now as we speak asking people to give information about their online business with either of the two. I can't get in touch, because I am banned from there. :(

[DAzHiredGun]

Are you in a position to read, cut & paste links to the threads you are talking about?


Ron

[kore]

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&track=4112&f=1&t=58455

I think Poncer is alking about this post.

[DAzHiredGun]

Thanks, kore. I'm looking at one now.


Ron

[kore]

new post have been made.
Quite interesting...

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&track=4112&f=1&t=58515

[lil crusader]

Originally posted by kore
new post have been made.
Quite interesting...

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&track=4112&f=1&t=58515

Interesting reading that appeals to the morbid curiousity we all have, no doubt, but I'm still having a hard time believing that so much information would be given out over the telephone, including the PO's personal opinions. I also have trouble believing that the request would be made for people to openly post their personal experiences for "gathering" by this PO.

Something just doesn't seem right here.

[Poncer]

Pam, think about how Jay treated me in the past? Seems that I was an easy target by them because I am too easy to believe people. I give people the benifit of the doubt, and I do forgive people as well. What Anna Goss have described about Jay is the way how he treated me.

[BaroqueXena]

Originally posted by lil crusader


Interesting reading that appeals to the morbid curiousity we all have, no doubt, but I'm still having a hard time believing that so much information would be given out over the telephone, including the PO's personal opinions. I also have trouble believing that the request would be made for people to openly post their personal experiences for "gathering" by this PO.

Something just doesn't seem right here.

I completely agree. Maybe the laws are different in the USA, in fact I am sure they are, but over here that person would be sacked and prosecuted for giving out info like that. What happened to client confidentiality?

[nadiaasoma]

And I hate the way this information is used and probably is
misinterperted at gpf.
lgwong should do something about it.

Marian

[DAzHiredGun]

Originally posted by BaroqueXena


I completely agree. Maybe the laws are different in the USA, in fact I am sure they are, but over here that person would be sacked and prosecuted for giving out info like that. What happened to client confidentiality?

In this case, "client confidentiality" should not apply since convictions are public record. The fact the parole officer is discussing public record should not present a problem; HOWEVER, opinions expressed concerning living conditions should be considered as just that.......opinions. Hypothetically, I would hate to think I was prohibited from warning someone they were at risk simply because I had personal knowledge of the existence of criminal convictions, but would reprimanded if I elaborated on what was already public record.


Ron

[BaroqueXena]

Originally posted by DAzHiredGun


In this case, "client confidentiality" should not apply since convictions are public record. The fact the parole officer is discussing public record should not present a problem; HOWEVER, opinions expressed concerning living conditions should be considered as just that.......opinions. Hypothetically, I would hate to think I was prohibited from warning someone they were at risk simply because I had personal knowledge of the existence of criminal convictions, but would reprimanded if I elaborated on what was already public record.


Ron

That's the difference, over here it would not be public record.

[nadiaasoma]

Being a danger to others is a verry serieus mather over here and
it takes a lot of observation and psychiatric diagnose before someone gets that label. They don't return to sociaty but are taken to a psyciatric prison clinic.
Recently we have a case of a footbaltrainer who is hiv-positive and
had sex with jong boys on parkinglots, the maier of that city decided that people should be warned even before there is a conviction but that's an extreme case of danger to public health.
In other cases we get verry upset when privacy is violated and
especialy by parolofficers who are there to help reintegrate convicts.
In the case of obvious sexoffenders I'm a bit jalours of your American laws but I haven't seen any clear prove of that in Jay's case, sorry.

Marian

[Poncer]

Ron, here is something to look at also.


http://amysrewards4mail.com/board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=569

[Poncer]

Originally posted by nadiaasoma
Being a danger to others is a verry serieus mather over here and
it takes a lot of observation and psychiatric diagnose before someone gets that label. They don't return to sociaty but are taken to a psyciatric prison clinic.
Recently we have a case of a footbaltrainer who is hiv-positive and
had sex with jong boys on parkinglots, the maier of that city decided that people should be warned even before there is a conviction but that's an extreme case of danger to public health.
In other cases we get verry upset when privacy is violated and
especialy by parolofficers who are there to help reintegrate convicts.
In the case of obvious sexoffenders I'm a bit jalours of your American laws but I haven't seen any clear prove of that in Jay's case, sorry.

Marian



Jay made personal threats against me in the past to come to my house and beat the living snot out of me. I put this in a nicer way than Jay said it. He made the threat on the Get Paid Forum. You know, he has my personal info, and knows where I live. I could be in trouble if he decides to come here.

[nadiaasoma]

Tell him I will show him all 4 corners of his livingroom if he does that!

Lets hope it's just a barking dog Poncer.

Marian

[Poncer]

I just sent an e-mail to this Anna Goss myself. I gave her much info that I could remember since I know Jay and Sherry except for their private lives. Maybe she can used that info.

[nadiaasoma]

If you'r scared he will actually do it, you did the right thing.

Marian