Bighousegpt is a scam!!

[crystal32]

mosesgross2000 is the owner of this site, i guess after being banned from 90% of the gpt sites online figured he would start his own!

i have this person in many of my downlines and here some screenshots of the reversals i had just on one site

i joined bighousegpt and did a $20 upgrade then after all the begging he had done i decided to check him out as his name seem very familar to me

i had said and i quote " seems a bit strange one day he is asking for donations and the next day he is out buying wedding rings" and i was banned for this comment

he made it sound that he was so poor and he needed to help his uncle who was just in a bad bike accident which left him unable to walk so he needed donations to get his uncle's power and water turned back on.. but he is out buying wedding rings the next day???

he sends about 20 emails a day begging people to donate or upgrade which many people have. he also sends about 100 promo codes a day... like hello???? you would think he would be asking people to complete offers rather then sending so many codes a day that they have no time to do offers!

the paypal he uses isnt even in his name. he says he couldnt get a paypal account of his own. i wonder if it has anything to do with all the offers he has duped on many sites or from being banned from so many gpt sites. ANYONE CAN GET A PAYPAL ACCOUNT HELLLLOOOOO AGAIN????

here is my screenshots from bowlingforcash and he was banned from this site. i am sure if more admins come forward they have him banned for the same thing!

he was banned about a month before i was deducted these reversals so obviously he duped many more offers then were reversed in my account

[tjq86]

didn't this site just open up? rofllll

[crystal32]

yes and been begging almost since the day they opened. strange thing is the have been paying members. i dont understand it but it is not good sign reguardless. no gpt site can survive giving promos like he has been. most the promos are 1-2 cents each and i earned almost $9 just on promo codes and ptc in just a few days

and to straight out ask for donations for his uncle and minutes later send out 50 more codes ... strangest thing i have ever seen in my life lol

his girlfriend holly sent an email for him one day and the next day he announce him and his girlfriend tiffany were getting married. kinda like one day asking for donations and then going to buy a wedding ring the next day lol

im no gpt expert but i see most admins try to get their members to do offers not upgrade!

[Justravis]

OUCH!!
That's why I only join sites in which I know the admins :)

[BrillianceGPT]

he went on my site, and a lot of other sites begging for help on his launch. i was in his contacts somehow, and he does send like 100 promo codes a day haha. i dont think the site is a scam though, i think he does pay but i get what your saying

An except from his email...
rom Holly Morehead <moreheadholly@yahoo.com>
date Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM
subject BigHouseGPT- BIG DEALS ON MORE CASH
mailed-by yahoo.com
signed-by yahoo.com

hide details Jun 18 (8 days ago)

HELLO ALL THIS IS HOLLY MOREHEAD MOSES'S GIRL FRIEND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT MOSES HAS A BIG BIG I MEAN BIG UPGRADE DEAL THAT NO OTHER SITE COULD COME CLOSE TO WE NOW HAVE A NEW UPGRADE CALLED QUEEN I MADE HIM GET IT SO IF YOU GET THAT UPGRADE HERES WHAT YOU GET
1- 60% REFERRAL EARNINGS
2-50% MORE CASH ON ALL CASH OFFERS EVEN PTC AND DAILY CLICKS
3-GET DOUBLE THE PTC AND DAILY CLICKS
4-GET TO GIVE ANY OTHER MEMBER A FREE JAIL BIRD UPGRADE
5-GET 2 UPGRADES AND ONE WHEN YOU GET THIS UPGRADE YOU GET A FREE UPGRADE ON WWW.THETWODIVASGPT.COM MUST BE A MEMBER THERE
6-GET PAID DAILY WITH NO MIN. VIA PAYPAL
7-55% OFF ALL PAID TO SIGNUP PACKAGES
8-FREE BANNERS FOR LIFE
9-1500 FREE PTC ADS A MONTH
10-50X THE CHANCE OF GETTING MEMBERS THAT DON'T HAVE A REFERRAL JUST GO TO http://www.bighousegpt.com/members/upgrade.php
SO I HOPE YOU CHECK THIS OUT BECAUSE MY BOY FRIEND IS VERY NICE HE JUST NEEDED ME TO SEND A EMAIL BECAUSE HE'S BEEN UP ALL NITE AND TAKING A CAT NAP I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO KNOW YOU ALL MORE BUT HERE IS A FEW CASH CODES I FIXED UP MYSELF SINCE HE'S ASLEEP LOL
882f4ddde3
541407311b
5a366d9edf
32816237d9
641f88397e
f463cc00d5
e74a965114
6d557f3241
000c75be3c
9f834392d7
heres the link http://www.bighousegpt.com/members/promo.php
HOPE YOU ALL UPGRADE TO QUEEN BECAUSE IF YOU DO I WILL SEND YOU 10 MORE CODES EVEN BETTER THEN THIS

THANKS
BigHouseGPT

[crystal32]

well i did a $20 upgrade and was banned for stating the facts... asking for donations one day and out buying wedding rings the next day... this is no secret he emailed all his members and said this. all i said is that is was strange and it is lol

first off i dont beg but if i was going to i sure wouldnt tell my members i was out buying a wedding ring the next day when his poor ole uncle dont have no power or water lol

he pays for now but how long will it last ... i give him a month and he be gone ... any bets??

and for the record i was refunded my upgrade money from the owner of the paypal account i just hope she doesnt get stuck with all his bills for allowing him to use her paypal account

[tjq86]

YEah think it's too soon to use the word scam. No offense Crystal, but I think the word scam needs to be used lightly, it's a shame when any member has even the slightest problem they yell scam.

We have no proof right now that he bought a wedding ring, and honestly that's not our business. Right now the site seems to be paying so I wouldn't say scam.

Can that change? sure, but right now it's a bit too early to tell or say that.

[crystal32]

well anyone can get a paypal account yet he uses someone elses because he cant get one of his own. and he is banned on multiple gpt site for duping offers so obviously these admins think he is a scammer. and i was banned for telling the facts. just because a site pays dont mean theey dont scam. scamming memberss for donations is just as bad

[tjq86]

who knows...just watch out

[norradjer99]

1-Lottery Ticket

*
AFTER YOU GET THIS UR UPGRADE WILL BE SET BACK TO SUPER KING THANKS

*
Only $111.00!

Shouldn't it say your instead of ur?

[Jennifer72]

A member who is banned from several GPT sites has no business running a site...if they can't be a trustworthy member what makes you think they can run a legit site?

Come on people!!

[crystal32]

and yet another email with a sad sad story needing money ....



From Moses
Subject HEY YA ALL
Date 6/27/2010 2:54 PM
Message
HELLO THIS IS MOSES JUST WANTED TO SAY HI AND THANKS FOR MAKING MY SITE WHAT IT IS TODAY BECAUSE TRULY YOU ALL ARE THE ADMINS AND I WORK FOR YOU.
I HAVE HAD A SAD SAD SAD DAY TODAY I MEAN I HATE SENDING EMAILS SOUNDING LIKE I AM JUST HERE FOR MONEY THATS NOT TRUE BY FAR I LOVE MY MEMBERS AND I HOPE THEY LOVE ME THE SAME WELL TODAY IS SAD BECAUSE MY WOMAN TIFFANY HAS SET UP A BIG BIG DAY FOR US TOMORROW ON HER 22TH BRITHDAY WHICH SHE IS 3 HOURS FROM ME BUT THE SAD SAD SAD PART IS I AM SO DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE NO GAS MONEY WHAT SO EVER I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO HELP I AM JUST SAYING I KNOW I HAVE THE BEST HEARTED MEMBERS ON THE INTERNET AND IF YOU WANTED TO HELP A BOY IN PAIN PLEASE SEND ME A T.T THATS A TROUBLE TICKET THANKS
MOSES

[BrillianceGPT]

and yet another email with a sad sad story needing money ....



From Moses
Subject HEY YA ALL
Date 6/27/2010 2:54 PM
Message
HELLO THIS IS MOSES JUST WANTED TO SAY HI AND THANKS FOR MAKING MY SITE WHAT IT IS TODAY BECAUSE TRULY YOU ALL ARE THE ADMINS AND I WORK FOR YOU.
I HAVE HAD A SAD SAD SAD DAY TODAY I MEAN I HATE SENDING EMAILS SOUNDING LIKE I AM JUST HERE FOR MONEY THATS NOT TRUE BY FAR I LOVE MY MEMBERS AND I HOPE THEY LOVE ME THE SAME WELL TODAY IS SAD BECAUSE MY WOMAN TIFFANY HAS SET UP A BIG BIG DAY FOR US TOMORROW ON HER 22TH BRITHDAY WHICH SHE IS 3 HOURS FROM ME BUT THE SAD SAD SAD PART IS I AM SO DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE NO GAS MONEY WHAT SO EVER I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO HELP I AM JUST SAYING I KNOW I HAVE THE BEST HEARTED MEMBERS ON THE INTERNET AND IF YOU WANTED TO HELP A BOY IN PAIN PLEASE SEND ME A T.T THATS A TROUBLE TICKET THANKS
MOSES


wow... i wish he would stop writing in caps though.

[BrillianceGPT]

TODAY IS SAD BECAUSE MY WOMAN TIFFANY HAS SET UP A BIG BIG DAY FOR US TOMORROW ON HER 22TH BRITHDAY WHICH SHE IS 3 HOURS FROM ME


in his last email, his "girlfriend" was named holly?

[crystal32]

yea one of his booboo's lol ooopsie he lost track of his lies lol

[extremegpt]

Threatened to ruin my life because he got banned from my shoutbox for posting spam. Also said he would hack my site. Why on earth would anybody believe let alone join this guy?

[crystal32]

well i know you arent talking to me ... and if you are moses saying i posted spam in your chat box i only posted my thoughts about your emails you sent... and i dont no the first thing about hacking anyone nor would i ... good luck proving that crap as unlike you i have never been banned from any legit site nor have i ever duped offers on multiple sites like you have!!!!

anyone can google your name to see the real you or they can google mine if they want i have no history or cheating but you can not say the same !!!


name to google mosesgross2000

my username on any and every site crystal32

[tjq86]

ban banb an ban ban ban

[extremegpt]

well i know you arent talking to me ... and if you are moses saying i posted spam in your chat box i only posted my thoughts about your emails you sent... and i dont no the first thing about hacking anyone nor would i ... good luck proving that crap as unlike you i have never been banned from any legit site nor have i ever duped offers on multiple sites like you have!!!!

anyone can google your name to see the real you or they can google mine if they want i have no history or cheating but you can not say the same !!!


name to google mosesgross2000

my username on any and every site crystal32

http://www.memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg

Are you kidding me?

[crystal32]

and i wasnt banned from shoutbox i was deleted from the site after making a $20 upgrade!

funny now you tell your members your out of money in YOUR paypal well you dont have a paypal so can i assume the person doing your payouts for you has got smart and cut you off?

[CoasterCash]

Threatened to ruin my life because he got banned from my shoutbox for posting spam. Also said he would hack my site. Why on earth would anybody believe let alone join this guy?

well i know you arent talking to me ... and if you are moses saying i posted spam in your chat box i only posted my thoughts about your emails you sent... and i dont no the first thing about hacking anyone nor would i ... good luck proving that crap as unlike you i have never been banned from any legit site nor have i ever duped offers on multiple sites like you have!!!!

anyone can google your name to see the real you or they can google mine if they want i have no history or cheating but you can not say the same !!!


name to google mosesgross2000

my username on any and every site crystal32

I'm not sure if a post got deleted from the thread and I'm off base, but the person you are yelling at is not moses, the account name is 'ExtremeGPT', he was backing you up and talking about things moses did on his site, way to tear the wrong guy a new one. ;)

[extremegpt]

I'm not sure if a post got deleted from the thread and I'm off base, but the person you are yelling at is not moses, the account name is 'ExtremeGPT', he was backing you up and talking about things moses did on his site, way to tear the wrong guy a new one. ;)

Thank you. I was a bid puzzled by the response I got?

[crystal32]

i am sorry i never clue in and i did think you were moses as i was deleted for posting a comment in his shoutbox. strange i did wonder why you had user name extremegpt. and now the lights come on! lol... again i am sorry for confusion my comment was not directed at extremegpt.

[CoasterCash]

Haha I figured that was the case :P

[CRGPTChuck]

Yeah, well done Brandon for the fast reply. They would still be puzzled LOL.

Chuck

[gptprincess]

I've seen this moses guy on a few other gpt sites begging people to sign up under his name so he could make money on his referrals to start up his site. And now he is begging people on HIS OWN site for money for personal reasons? Completely unprofessional. If he cant present himself in a professional manner he shouldnt be running a business.

[CRGPTChuck]

Yeah, nothing new i guess. Sad to see that there is ANOTHER bad site. Agreed on that it is 'Completely unprofessional'. Thanks for the supported comment. I am supprised that he has not go a member in here yet to back him up :/

Chuck

[crystal32]

more from moses. he has more stories then can keep up with lol

[crystal32]

welll i am in total shock but if you keep at it long enough you figure it all out and i must say i am determined i have been scammed enough and i would like to see it stop!

you will have to join samanthas forum if you dont trust my screenshots but this shows the connection with samantha and the bighousegpt... i didnt even think it was hers til now!!!

link to her forum and all current sites she has and notice the JohnCenaptc.info and then notice the bighousegpt chat box with the Admin JOHN_CENA... coincidence... i think not lol

http://ghostwhispererptc.info/forum/index.php

[butchykid]

bighouse as i seen in the chatbox,looks like a bunch of kids running the site.
changes names like i don't know what.
if i want to watch a soap opera i would go watch my soaps.

[mcf]

more from moses. he has more stories then can keep up with lol

Oh boy what a sob story ! Hope no one believes it. :hehe: :laugh:

[aspiringangel01]

omg big house never seizes to amaze me the things they are coming up with are out of this world. Now they have wrestlers on the site in the chatbox John Cena and Vince McMahon lol. I tried to get a screen shot of the Vince part but the chat was moving fast at the time and missed that one but here's screen shots of the chat with "John Cena" in it and an inbox message he supposably sent:
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/dailyclix/chatbox1.png

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/dailyclix/inbox.png

oh and don't forget the pics of "Me (Moses) and Cena"
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/dailyclix/bighouse.png

yet the first pic on there is supposably Moses and Cena but then you look at Moses pic that he posted on the site and they look nothing alike
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/dailyclix/moses.png


This site is really unreal the things that are going on!

Also I talked to Terri today the one that was doing his payments and she said she is no longer in any way associated with big house. I honestly do not think she got involved ever thinking it was going to turn out this way from what I have seen of her she has always ran an honest site. She was just trying to help someone who she thought was honest and they turned out not to be.

[crystal32]

i dont watch soap operas myself but i must say i do peak in the bighouse now and then lol ... funny as heck lol ... i do believe they are mostly all the same person ... one very strange person lol

[aspiringangel01]

i dont watch soap operas myself but i must say i do peak in the bighouse now and then lol ... funny as heck lol ... i do believe they are mostly all the same person ... one very strange person lol

I have no doubts they are all the same person one of them comes on and the others are gone then the next one comes on and the first one is gone and so on and if you watch they are all "admin"

[butchykid]

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: MasterSarg
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010

This is Mastersarg,
I an wondering if you like what is happening here at big house gpt
if not Please let me know thank you


hi,
i haven't been on here much.but have been reading the chat and all i can say is omg....
not a way to run a chat or a site.

member's will start to wonder who really is running this site and wonder about the payments.

member's is what make's a site.if you don't have member's then you don't have a site.

the names i see in the chat about being from the wwe i don't know if it's for real or
just people playing around.

or someone with alot of personalities.


From MasterSarg
Subject RE: Hey Members
Date 7/20/2010 1:32 AM
Message all of the names that yo see from wwe on here are moses just kessing with us
and there won't be any payments until he finds someone to do them.




this is what i got

[aspiringangel01]

Well I'm banned now for this conversation which I figured I would get banned for it but someone needed to say something:
US - 7/20/10 1:47 AM
aspiringangel01: @JOHN_CENA - Moses noone is buying it this started out as a great site and has really went way down hill which is sad to see
US - 7/20/10 1:55 AM
ab123200: hey guys hows it going
US - 7/20/10 1:56 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what why u saying that this is john and that does hurt it does
US - 7/20/10 1:56 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: well belive what u want ok who cares
US - 7/20/10 1:57 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: we the ones that dont need money ok
US - 7/20/10 1:57 AM
aspiringangel01: @JOHN_CENA - please and you're going to try to convince me that a wrestler has nothing better to do than be on a GPT chat box
US - 7/20/10 1:57 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: u getting money ok so just stay r leave ok
US - 7/20/10 1:57 AM
aspiringangel01: @JOHN_CENA - I would assume you wouldn't need the money but there are quite a few people here that make a living doing these sites that are getting scammed
US - 7/20/10 1:58 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: well moses f***in pays ok so stop tha t s**t please
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
aspiringangel01: it's not a matter of me staying or leaving it's a matter of there are 217 members here that are expecting their money and not getting it
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: hey tiffany
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
javacat: the member's on here cares
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
aspiringangel01: how is he going to pay? he doesn't have a paypal account and the person that was doing them for him quit and is no longer associated with this site
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: f***in tell these ppl i am for real please
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
Admin
tiffany06: @JOHN_CENA - hey c
US - 7/20/10 1:59 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i do
US - 7/20/10 2:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i have 2 paypals
US - 7/20/10 2:00 AM
aspiringangel01: Moses is also known to duplicate offers and has been banned from many gpt sites alot of people here gave him a chance and yes he did pay at first then it all just stoped
US - 7/20/10 2:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: yeah aint we all
US - 7/20/10 2:00 AM
aspiringangel01: ok you have 2 paypals and you have all this money and are Moses friend then why not help him and pay the members what they are owed?
US - 7/20/10 2:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: f**k rules are ment to be breakin ok
US - 7/20/10 2:01 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i dont like trusting ppl on this site anymore but i love tiff
US - 7/20/10 2:01 AM
aspiringangel01: rules are ment to be broken? I think there's a big difference between breaking rules and flat out frauding people out of their money
US - 7/20/10 2:06 AM
Admin
tiffany06: @aspiringangel01 - now man who in the bleep do u think ur messing with
US - 7/20/10 2:06 AM
aspiringangel01: funny payments are mentioned and here we go about everything but payments
US - 7/20/10 2:06 AM
javacat: this isn't a gpt site it's a soap opera
US - 7/20/10 2:06 AM
aspiringangel01: I don't care who I'm messing with I'm standing up for people here that are owed money and are not getting it
US - 7/20/10 2:06 AM
aspiringangel01: ok I guess I'm messing with a bunch of scammers
US - 7/20/10 2:07 AM
Admin
tiffany06: well if ur don't happy on here stop running ur mouth and just leave and stop trying to cause a bunch of unwanted drama
US - 7/20/10 2:07 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: bye bye bye little baby
US - 7/20/10 2:07 AM
Admin
tiffany06: quit acting like a two year old
US - 7/20/10 2:07 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: @aspiringangel01 -
US - 7/20/10 2:08 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: ty tiffany ur so kool
US - 7/20/10 2:08 AM
javacat: this site is ran by teenyboppers who can't grow up
US - 7/20/10 2:08 AM
Admin
tiffany06: anytime man
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
tiffany06: @javacat - well maybe a teenbopper shouldn't be on here
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: Kristine wylie
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: is gone
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: bye bye
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
javacat: then why you're still here
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: lol
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: wht?
US - 7/20/10 2:09 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what?
US - 7/20/10 2:10 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: yeah what i thought
US - 7/20/10 2:10 AM
Admin
tiffany06: their all talk c man
US - 7/20/10 2:11 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: yep gosh ty ty ty ty ty xoxoxoxo
US - 7/20/10 2:11 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: ur great
US - 7/20/10 2:11 AM
javacat: members will add it on boycott if they feel cheated
US - 7/20/10 2:11 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: we need u here on raw baby

[crystal32]

holy cow poop lol


i didnt quite follow that master sarg message it that all their chat or someone askin them?

its sad cause i was not banned when he asked for donations and alot of members sent him money. made me wonder how people can believe all that crap, i knew from the second i made my upgrade it was a big mistake. and the sad thing if anyone tries to get a refund it will be taken from the person the money was sent too and that is not him

[aspiringangel01]

The message from Sarg which is the asst admin said that the "wrestlers" in the chat were just Moses acting as other people. Honestly the asst admin from when I talked to him seemed to not be a part of what was going on and doesn't seem to condone it at all.

[crystal32]

when i first join the site sarg was a member just completing offers. sarg is the one that did eventually ban me for saying in chat box "it's strange one day he asking for donations and the next day he out buying wedding rings"

im sure anyone who read his mails he sent was curious if he so worried about his uncle why not take his wedding ring money and give to his uncle instead of asking members to donate lol i dont think it was cause to ban me but i am glad they did i was able to get back my upgrade money which im sure alot cant now

well i think this scam is wrapped up on to the next one lol

i bet they just love seeing me coming lol

[butchykid]

i got this note From MasterSarg
Subject RE: Hey Members
Date 7/20/2010 2:01 AM
Message lets get everyone that we can and boycott this site.

from the few times i have talked to him he seems like he truely cares about the members.

[crystal32]

yup think sarg just believed in the site cause it did pay at first

but really how many admins do you no would make a member they only know a few days an *** admin...

boys what a mess i am glad the site had so few members

[tigerterri]

Hi Guys,
Something very weird is going on at BigHouse, (definitely not earth shattering news). I have been doing GPT sites since the end of February and so far have been lucky enough to find the best of the best with most of them. Actually all of the sites I have joined have been great, except BH (BigHouse). I just want everyone to know clearly that the only reason MasterSarg is still on the site at all is in hopes of protecting the members at BH that he has befriended while Moses is busy stroking his ego. Any of the members at this point are there only to support the Sarge. My hopes is that this does not negatively affect MasterSarg. His only goal is to make sure that the members get paid. Moses reinstated MasterSarg when several members let it be known he had no site without him. He then got a brand new member that HE DID NOT KNOW FROM ADAM 5 min earlier and made him "Assist Admin" and bumped Mastersarg down to being a Moderator. I know this due to I was watching the chat box after MasterSarg left for the night. I am not computer savy enough to know how to bring copies of this with me like all of you did, but I did see Moses and the new Assist Admin get to know each other and then moses and he exchanged different ideas of lottery games and powerball contests that they could do and moses asked if he wanted to be an assistant because he needed one. Within minutes this new guy had Assist Admin before his name, something that was before MasterSarg's name when he logged off. This was all done after MasterSarg gave moses his PayPal info so the affiliates or whatever they are could pay and money could be paid to the members. Talk about a kick in the teeth. Mastersarg discovered there was money in his paypal account this morning and paid $250.00 out to members leaving about $4.00 in the account.That took the pending down substantially. MasterSarg is only trying to protect the members. His actual goal is to take over BH. I told him that he had a better shot at getting Moses to agree by being on Moses's side then being against him. Hopefully Moses will do what is best for BigHouse, but only time will tell. I am basically a nobody in the GPT world, but I think alot of you have seen me around for a while now. I have made some wonderful friends since I have been chasing these pennies around the internet. My main goal for this input is to let anyone know that is wondering about MasterSarg, You need not worry and PLEASE do not take his being at BH wrong. He is not part of Moses's Ego Stroking Bull that is going on there. Lets all Back MasterSarg and see if we can eliminate Moses from the picture completely!! Now everybody Lets Make Money!! Lets Have Fun!!

Thank You Very Much for the chance to give another side of this "SoapOpera"

Terri L. Sinor/tigerterri

[crazyspider]

therefore only knowing admin used the site and there are Highest paying offers, great referral system it doesnt mean that they are good

[GoldFleece]

You know, I like Sarge, but the rest of them are clowns.

homieg360 one of Moses IRL friend's who was also an admin, just deleted every offer on the site.
Moses calls him a punk after deleting his account, and then logs into one of his other accounts and agrees with himself -_-

There's a message in my inbox, telling me to PM Moses ASAP if I want to be on Jerry Springer. I'll be put up in a sweet hotel!

I'm glad I'm not owed money there.

[BrillianceGPT]

omg, this made my day. especially aspiringangel's pictures.
lol this is pretty funny (how the admins act, moses's stories, and the whole verses thing with john cena). its pathetic though how people can be.

[crystal32]

i been watching the soap opera for weeks now lol

but sinfully many people are not going to be paid... i tried to warn them and was banned and called names by many of the members for saying anything about their great admin... guessing now they wish they had listened to me. i been around long enough to know when to run... and being banned was a great thing i was able to get my upgrade refunded. the warning signs started not 10 minutes after doing my upgrade ... hundreds of codes a day started popping up in inbox and the shoutbox ... that alone was just to good to be true but many upgraded and sent him donations


do you all no that samantha shepard has a ptc site called johncenaptc .... it has been suspended but little odd dont ya think??? and i recieved an email from moses and it came from "moses wilson" ... hmmmmm funny that is also samantha's last name now she has married lol

i am a member of many many sites i do get around and i dont call scam because of late payments or absent admins as these things happen. i have been burnt enough to know a bad site when i see one and if it wasnt for bighouse admin acting so idiotic his members would still be there doing offers and believing they would be paid. so im just glad he did himself in before more people lost !!!

i may have a big mouth but its an honest one lol

[butchykid]

i'm javacat on bighousegpt and tonight i got banned from chat for calling moses out as john_cena...here some of the chat from 8/5/2010

US - 8/6/10 2:37 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: @JOHN_CENA - what's redzones moses?
US - 8/6/10 2:37 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i stay with moses after wrestling and we ride around all the time dude
US - 8/6/10 2:37 AM
Banned
Hunter99: ew
US - 8/6/10 2:37 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: whats a redzone you don't know
US - 8/6/10 2:38 AM
Banned
javacat: i heard that john_cena was a personiality of moses
US - 8/6/10 2:38 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what?
US - 8/6/10 2:38 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: @JOHN_CENA - do eat tossed salad moses?
US - 8/6/10 2:38 AM
Banned
Hunter99: moses u silly willy hillbilly!
US - 8/6/10 2:38 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: ok well i guess you all dont like talking like older smarter ppl do you
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Banned
Hunter99: yankin my chain like pinky and the brain. What up brotha? u might be insane!!!
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: @Hunter99 - smarter?
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: come on we aint kids anymore
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Banned
Hunter99: dude john cena.. i see your IP. U= moses
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i love oh big blue ky
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: moses smart?
US - 8/6/10 2:39 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: yea lots ok jelly here
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: hes in police school now
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Banned
Hunter99: and also im looking at john cenas fan pg and it says hes in LA this week
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Banned
Hunter99: weird huh!
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: nope i am in ky. bro.
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i have like 4 jets you know
US - 8/6/10 2:40 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: can i be a mod?
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Banned
KoolAid101: without payin
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: lol
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: ur funny dude
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
tigerterri: @Javacat are you still here?
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: hey terri terri
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Banned
javacat: off and on why checking inbox
US - 8/6/10 2:41 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: whats new?
US - 8/6/10 2:42 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: who?
US - 8/6/10 2:43 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: hes my good drinking buddy and the one who got me in the movies o steve was
US - 8/6/10 2:43 AM
tigerterri: @Javacat this is too weird for me
US - 8/6/10 2:43 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what is?
US - 8/6/10 2:43 AM
tigerterri: Right there
US - 8/6/10 2:43 AM
tigerterri: One thing Way to go MOSES
US - 8/6/10 2:50 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what up with these ppl here i was thinking this was a great site
US - 8/6/10 2:51 AM
Moderator
jerm: why did you ban those people
US - 8/6/10 2:52 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what man?
US - 8/6/10 2:53 AM
Moderator
jerm: why did you ban those people
US - 8/6/10 2:55 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: did you see what they was saying man?
US - 8/6/10 2:55 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: they cant talk like that here dude
US - 8/6/10 2:57 AM
Moderator
jerm: sarg will unban them
US - 8/6/10 2:57 AM
Moderator
jerm: sarg will unban them
US - 8/6/10 2:57 AM
tigerterri: Hey Jerm
US - 8/6/10 2:58 AM
Moderator
jerm: hey
US - 8/6/10 2:58 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: what why would he because he works under me ok
US - 8/6/10 2:58 AM
tigerterri: Do you pay pending?
US - 8/6/10 2:58 AM
Moderator
jerm: no he works for moses
US - 8/6/10 2:59 AM
Moderator
jerm: yes
US - 8/6/10 2:59 AM
tigerterri: @John
US - 8/6/10 2:59 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: heres the deal you all this site is for helping ppl ok so if you like get extra money to pay bills then stay but if you dont then just go somewheres else ok
US - 8/6/10 2:59 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: moses and me are 50/50
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
tigerterri: Considering without MasterSarg there is no site
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i am here just to hang out
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: lol
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
tigerterri: That equals 150
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: wow
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
Moderator
jerm: i agree with terri
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
tigerterri: Moses told me that he is 50/50 with justin
US - 8/6/10 3:00 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: oh ok
US - 8/6/10 3:01 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: his share is 50/50 with justin
US - 8/6/10 3:01 AM
tigerterri: and since justin pays for the pending and has the only paypal account that makes it 25/25/50
US - 8/6/10 3:01 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: so other words it 50/25/25
US - 8/6/10 3:01 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i have paypal
US - 8/6/10 3:02 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i have 3 paypal and 12 bank accounts
US - 8/6/10 3:02 AM
tigerterri: Without Justin YOU HAVE 50% of 0 do the math
US - 8/6/10 3:02 AM
Moderator
jerm: then start paying peeps
US - 8/6/10 3:02 AM
tigerterri: Then why are you letting all the members hang for money they earned!!
US - 8/6/10 3:02 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: why would i pay to members that are acting like kids
US - 8/6/10 3:03 AM
Moderator
jerm: because they worked hard for it
US - 8/6/10 3:03 AM
tigerterri: THEYEARNED IT IN GOOD FAITH THAT THEY WOULD BE PAID
US - 8/6/10 3:03 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: i was going to pay tonight but after all that crap its making me not want to
US - 8/6/10 3:03 AM
tigerterri: YEAH RIGHT
US - 8/6/10 3:04 AM
Moderator
jerm: the only way i believe you was going to pay was if you do it right now
US - 8/6/10 3:04 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: well ok i pay all but u i guess then
US - 8/6/10 3:04 AM
Moderator
jerm: i already got paid by sarg
US - 8/6/10 3:05 AM
Admin
JOHN_CENA: good job bro
US - 8/6/10 3:05 AM
Moderator
jerm: so why dont you pay the other people
US - 8/6/10 3:05 AM
tigerterri: Too bad Moses is not man enough to stand up and take it while hiding behind your name
US - 8/6/10 3:06 AM
tigerterri: Notice you come in and Moses disappears
US - 8/6/10 3:06 AM
tigerterri: Moses knows I have been one of this sites most dedicated followers
US - 8/6/10 3:06 AM
Moderator
jerm: this cena thing will end when he turns heel
US - 8/6/10 3:10 AM
tigerterri: Moses/Cena both now hiding behind the skirt of a woman
US - 8/6/10 3:10 AM
tiffany06: i missed moses alot
US - 8/6/10 3:10 AM
Moderator
jerm: i wish the real tiffany was still on here
US - 8/6/10 3:10 AM
tiffany06: lol
US - 8/6/10 3:10 AM
tigerterri: Speckfriggintacular
US - 8/6/10 3:11 AM
tiffany06: whats not real bout me?
US - 8/6/10 3:11 AM
tiffany06: wheres cindy?
US - 8/6/10 3:12 AM
tigerterri: What happened to all the other personalities Moses. Are your other computers down
US - 8/6/10 3:12 AM
tiffany06: hmmm?
US - 8/6/10 3:12 AM
Moderator
jerm: she quit this site because of moses crap
US - 8/6/10 3:12 AM
tiffany06: i havent been on for like 6 days
US - 8/6/10 3:12 AM
tigerterri: @tiffany06 Cindyhair won't be back until she is paid but apparently we are all too childish to deserve to be paid
US - 8/6/10 3:13 AM
tiffany06: wow what did moses do?
US - 8/6/10 3:13 AM
tiffany06: omg is moses being a jack a ss?
US - 8/6/10 3:13 AM
Moderator
jerm: refuse to pay people like he is suppose too
US - 8/6/10 3:13 AM
tigerterri: Banned every person that had the cajones to tell him what they think of what he is doing here
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
tiffany06: well he said justin is doing the payments from the networks now
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
tigerterri: He even banned Justin
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
tiffany06: wow i know he had to ban a few after he got hacked
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
tiffany06: wow i know he had to ban a few after he got hacked into
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
Moderator
jerm: act like 3 different people
US - 8/6/10 3:14 AM
tigerterri: Yeah that was when cindy and I ripped into him for banning Justin
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
tiffany06: whos he act like?
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
tiffany06: ohh i c
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
tigerterri: Jeckyll and Hyde
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
Moderator
jerm: you,cena, and himself
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
tiffany06: wow i am real my num. is 606 402 0844
US - 8/6/10 3:15 AM
tiffany06: call me if u like or text me
US - 8/6/10 3:16 AM
tiffany06: i know i am real lol
US - 8/6/10 3:16 AM
tigerterri: He even banned Javacat tonight
US - 8/6/10 3:16 AM
tigerterri: I am calling you right now
US - 8/6/10 3:16 AM
tiffany06: my name is tiffany and i was with moses awhile
US - 8/6/10 3:16 AM
tiffany06: ok
US - 8/6/10 3:17 AM
tiffany06: i have a stight talk phone
US - 8/6/10 3:17 AM
tiffany06: no call yet
US - 8/6/10 3:17 AM
tigerterri: phone is ringing
US - 8/6/10 3:17 AM
tiffany06: not on my side
US - 8/6/10 3:18 AM
tigerterri: wemt straight to voicemail
US - 8/6/10 3:18 AM
tiffany06: i never got a call
US - 8/6/10 3:18 AM
tigerterri: I just called 606 4030844
US - 8/6/10 3:19 AM
tigerterri: Says it is in KY
US - 8/6/10 3:19 AM
tiffany06: its 402 0844
US - 8/6/10 3:19 AM
tiffany06: not 403 lol
US - 8/6/10 3:19 AM
tiffany06: well i am going to bed nite all
US - 8/6/10 3:20 AM
Moderator
jerm: terri call it
US - 8/6/10 3:20 AM
tigerterri: oops that is what i called
US - 8/6/10 3:20 AM
tigerterri: ringing again
US - 8/6/10 3:20 AM
tigerterri: voicemail again
US - 8/6/10 3:21 AM
Moderator
jerm: lol
US - 8/6/10 3:21 AM
tigerterri: Great now they have my phone #
US - 8/6/10 3:21 AM
tigerterri: Oh well I guess actually they already did
US - 8/6/10 3:21 AM
tigerterri: Just by me signing up on this site to begin with
US - 8/6/10 3:21 AM
Moderator
jerm: am i banned
US - 8/6/10 3:22 AM
tigerterri: Nope not yet how about me
US - 8/6/10 3:25 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: I LOVE TIFFANY RIGGS
US - 8/6/10 3:25 AM
tigerterri: It is just until pending reaches 0US - 8/6/10 3:25 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: CHECK HER OUT ON FACEBOOK YOU ALL
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
Moderator
jerm: yea i know
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: I MISS HER
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
tigerterri: Hey moses talk to me please one on one
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: OK
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: AND?
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
tigerterri: What is honestly going on?
US - 8/6/10 3:26 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: what u mean?
US - 8/6/10 3:27 AM
tigerterri: I really love this site and do not want to eatch it fail
US - 8/6/10 3:27 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: i hope everyone loves this site also
US - 8/6/10 3:27 AM
tigerterri: Whenever John_Cena shows up you are gone
US - 8/6/10 3:28 AM
tigerterri: YOU told me that you and Sarg are 50/50 partners
US - 8/6/10 3:28 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: he is at my house when hes on so we can only sign in one at a timeUS - 8/6/10 3:28 AM
tigerterri: Your words exactly
US - 8/6/10 3:28 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: only 1 person per ip address
US - 8/6/10 3:28 AM
tigerterri: OK that makes sense to me
US - 8/6/10 3:29 AM
tigerterri: Sarg is working his behind off here
US - 8/6/10 3:29 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: yeah and tiffany riggs was my old g.f from maysville ky
US - 8/6/10 3:29 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: i still love her


ok enough for now but i hope this help other's

[crystal32]

i think tiffany is also one of moses personalities... notice john cena leaves and tiffany comes on, tiffany leaves and moses comes on

this is one sick dude!

[butchykid]

yeah he is.

Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: wow i am just sitting here at home when i dont work and u hate me



US - 8/6/10 3:53 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: i have a job i get my own money when i need it


right there it proves he changes his story.


another part of chat from 8/5/2010 to 8/6/2010

US - 8/6/10 4:05 AM
tigerterri: What is sad is someone like you taking advantage of so many GOOD People over the internet
US - 8/6/10 4:05 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: so i have millions mad at me everyday oh well my kind of work ppl hates oh well
US - 8/6/10 4:06 AM
tigerterri: REAL COWARDS WAY OUT
US - 8/6/10 4:07 AM
tigerterri: Well obviously you are not the rational man I thought you were and I am wasting my time fighting for something you could care less about
US - 8/6/10 4:07 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: @jerm - why u hating on me man?
US - 8/6/10 4:07 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: well ok then
US - 8/6/10 4:07 AM
Moderator
jerm: terri did you read the message i sent
US - 8/6/10 4:07 AM
tigerterri: I really hope god forgives you and you are in my prayers


ok i'll stop here so i can get the rest of the chat

[butchykid]

US - 8/6/10 4:20 AM
Moderator
jerm: @tigerterri - u still there?
US - 8/6/10 4:21 AM
Moderator
jerm: moses i feel so blessed you are acting like me lol
US - 8/6/10 4:19 AM
Moderator
jerm: i love this great site and moses
US - 8/6/10 4:20 AM
Moderator
jerm: terri inbox
US - 8/6/10 4:20 AM
Moderator
jerm: @tigerterri - u still there?
US - 8/6/10 4:21 AM
Moderator
jerm: moses i feel so blessed you are acting like me lol
US - 8/6/10 4:19 AM
Moderator
jerm: i love this great site and moses
US - 8/6/10 4:21 AM
Moderator
jerm: why u acting like me man
US - 8/6/10 4:22 AM
Moderator
jerm: either you quit acting like me or i will have this site shut down
US - 8/6/10 4:23 AM
Moderator
jerm: ok we are going offline i guess cya
US - 8/6/10 4:23 AM
Moderator
jerm: fine with me
US - 8/6/10 4:23 AM
Moderator
jerm: ok we are going offline i guess cya
US - 8/6/10 4:25 AM
Moderator
jerm: ok we are now offline til bout 3 days enjoy
and when i checked back to see if i could log in i got this message------> Our website is currently down. Please check back later. when the great members love us again thanks if you want us back please email me at wcwraw5@yahoo.com

that's the rest of the chat.

[butchykid]

and now when i click on my bighousegpt link i get this message

Our website is currently down. Please check back monday aug-09 when the great members love us again thanks if you want us back sooner please email me at wcwraw5@yahoo.com


if you look in last part of the chat moses was acting like the mod jerm in the chat.moses has broken all the rules of the site.

it's all a big joke and games with him and 1 toooo many personalities to keep up with.

[crystal32]

wow he shut down the site. i hate to say it but members would be better off to take the loss and move on. i was there when so many of us all upgraded it is just a crime and it needs to be dealt with somehow. i am sure he has run off any member that stiill supported this site unbelievable!!!

i think the people that sell these sites to such monsters should take some responsibily in this!!! i think purchasing any kind of site you should have to forward proof of id. but some just dont care who they sell to its all about the money!!!

[SlyckQuick]

Here's 5 mins of diggin. Have fun with this clown. I'm done.

WHOIS Record:
moses gross
335 county road 1094
campton, Kentucky 41301
United States
(606) 362-6925


http://mosesscashtree.yolasite.com/
http://www.stumblehere.com/a/mosesgross21/
http://www.corkin.com/search/search.cfm?n=mosesgross21&userid=69395
http://www.myspace.com/mosesgross21
http://www.myspace.com/373092924
http://www.youtube.com/user/mosesgross21

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-w9oUQqOIlMJ:hstrial-lazymansgpt.homestead.com/contact.html+%22moses+gross%22+gpt&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=serp

[crazyspider]

you have familiar with the site admin then proceed ahead.

[RxQueen]

This is beyond unbelievable. This man, this character has Con written all over him. Im not going to lie right now, ive been gawking at Bighouse for about a wk now. It really is like a car accident.. You cannot help but to watch what's going on here. I havn't even heard of John Cena before i saw this site and strange is this was, as i was reading the rediculous stuff in chat, a clip of the TMZ came on TV and said "tonight on TMZ John Cena is in town." Uhmm Im almost positive TMZ is based in Cali so yea im pretty sure we all know that John Cena is not in KY hangin out with some dude named Moses and his "sad uncle".
Also "sad uncle" aparently cant walk? Then how come on the site there was just some pictures of some dude with crutches and a ACE bandage wrapped around his leg lmao. I have an ACE bandage, can i get in on this moses? lol and if your using crutches.. pretty sure you can stand.
One VERY important rule of GPT's is NO FRAUD. Well this "moses" inparticular (not any members) has fraud written all over him. The above chat happend hours ago and i was there for the whole show. Im not sure if this made it in the above chat before moses deleted alot of the stuff from shoutbox but while he's signed in as John Cena he says "i was going to pay everyone tonight but now im not!" Are you kidding me? The site has its debt in plain numbers on the homepage and the only money getting paid out was from a guy named Justin and it came from his own pocket!! What this Moses character likes is the attention he is getting from all of this. He goes on and on as diff ppl and its sick. The site is currently down yet he invites you to email him. He's playing "come get me" and every member that keeps going on there day after day is feeding his sick obsession and his lies. Ive seen him claim so many rediculous things in these passed few days i laughed soooo friggin hard. The members that regularly visit the site seem to be extremely nice people from what i saw. But the thing is they are too busy wasting there time to come on there and tell him to "cut his losses". Well come on people you guys should cut your losses with him as well and move on. He's never going to pay up and you guys dont deserve that crap from him. Bad things do happen to good people. He wants the attention and hes inviting you to give it to him more by telling people to email him. As far as i know of this freak show, the site should stay as is... as in not up at all. Moses should of signed off a long time ago and never came back and so should the rest of you if your just getting ripped off.

It is what it is.. No one is getting there money back, it sucks, move on to a real site with real people, real support, real payouts and stop wasting your time. This site needs to be called "NutHouseGPT" not BighouseGPT. :baaa:

[crystal32]

i have watched the site too and have wet myself a few times lmaooooo

[butchykid]

an update from my friend and owner of the two divas...

To all BigHouseGPT members: I have a deal for you. I helped Moses open up the site originally so I feel a connection to it. I've been keeping up with all the bull that's been going on and all I can say is I'm sorry. He seemed like a good guy who genuinely wanted to be a GPT site owner and so I helped him get started. Then he wanted to be a wrestler and now he wants to be a state trooper. He comes on in chat with multiple personalities and all I can say is Moses Get Help! I'm calling for a boycott of BigHouseGPT while he's still at the helm. In the meantime a few of us are trying to get him to give it to us for what he owes people. I don't see that happening so I came up with a different idea to help everyone who HAS NOT been paid so far and to people who paid for an upgrade:

I own TheTwoDivasGPT. Whatever you are owed in earnings, plus the cost of your upgrade, if you come work my site I will make sure you get your money back. So let's say you are owed $30 in earnings plus a $10 upgrade, that equals $40. Just make $40 on my site and each time you cashout (daily cashouts) I will double your money up to $40. That way you make $40 on my site and you get $80 in return. I hope this makes sense. But I will only reiumburse the upgrade if you actually paid for it.

If you had advertising at BigHouse, open up a Trouble Ticket on my site and I will give you whatever you had over there at BigHouse. I want to make this right for everyone because too many sites have screwed over people.

If you want to take me up on my deal, just sign up and let me know what you were owed altogether. Please let me know what you think. You're all very welcome to join TheTwoDivasGPT............Terri


i just wanted to pass this on for my friend terri

here's my link to signup on thetwodivasgpt------>http://thetwodivasgpt.com

[crystal32]

wow what an admin!!!!!

i am unable to join this site i tried many moons ago not available to my country but anyone who can i would join, i have heard good things about this admin!!!

but i dont blame this admin at all trying to do a favor for someone. i am sorry she feel responsible for this sites downfall but the blame is all on moses and i think everyone feels the same

these kinda admins are few and far between she is obviously very dedicated!!!

[RxQueen]

an update from my friend and owner of the two divas...

To all BigHouseGPT members: I have a deal for you. I helped Moses open up the site originally so I feel a connection to it. I've been keeping up with all the bull that's been going on and all I can say is I'm sorry. He seemed like a good guy who genuinely wanted to be a GPT site owner and so I helped him get started. Then he wanted to be a wrestler and now he wants to be a state trooper. He comes on in chat with multiple personalities and all I can say is Moses Get Help! I'm calling for a boycott of BigHouseGPT while he's still at the helm. In the meantime a few of us are trying to get him to give it to us for what he owes people. I don't see that happening so I came up with a different idea to help everyone who HAS NOT been paid so far and to people who paid for an upgrade:

I own TheTwoDivasGPT. Whatever you are owed in earnings, plus the cost of your upgrade, if you come work my site I will make sure you get your money back. So let's say you are owed $30 in earnings plus a $10 upgrade, that equals $40. Just make $40 on my site and each time you cashout (daily cashouts) I will double your money up to $40. That way you make $40 on my site and you get $80 in return. I hope this makes sense. But I will only reiumburse the upgrade if you actually paid for it.

If you had advertising at BigHouse, open up a Trouble Ticket on my site and I will give you whatever you had over there at BigHouse. I want to make this right for everyone because too many sites have screwed over people.

If you want to take me up on my deal, just sign up and let me know what you were owed altogether. Please let me know what you think. You're all very welcome to join TheTwoDivasGPT............Terri


i just wanted to pass this on for my friend terri


Well it looks like the site is back up. Currently Moses is the only member online and that is how it should stay. And im still not sure if "tiffany" is a real person or one of his other characters. To all his regular members: let him be.. Him being the only person there means he cant scam any more people. If you still want your money back then take Terri up on that offer. Leave moses to wallow in his own crap.

US - 8/6/10 5:49 PM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: hey justin or tiffany u online?
US - 8/6/10 5:52 PM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: WE ARE BACKKKKKKKKKKKK

[butchykid]

well i just check the site and guess what the cracker has it down again here's what show's WE ARE NOW OFFLINE FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS BECAUSE OF A FEW MEMBERS LIKE HOMIEG360,jerm, AND tigerterri YOU CAN THANK THEM FOR THIS BUT WE WILL BE BACK ONLINE AUG-10 THANKS TO THE MEMBERS THAT STILL LOVE THIS SITE

just thought i would let everyone know

[RxQueen]

well i just check the site and guess what the cracker has it down again here's what show's WE ARE NOW OFFLINE FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS BECAUSE OF A FEW MEMBERS LIKE HOMIEG360,jerm, AND tigerterri YOU CAN THANK THEM FOR THIS BUT WE WILL BE BACK ONLINE AUG-10 THANKS TO THE MEMBERS THAT STILL LOVE THIS SITE

just thought i would let everyone know

Wow what a mature thing to do. The site is down because of them?? no.. the site is down because they were the only ones on there and they left to go to a real site where they're going to get paid. So pretty much.. there is no members that love that site. His site is done. He shouldnt be blaming these members, he should be blaming himself for running it into the ground.

[norradjer99]

WE ARE NOW OFFLINE FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS BECAUSE OF A FEW MEMBERS LIKE HOMIEG360,jerm, AND tigerterri YOU CAN THANK THEM FOR THIS BUT WE WILL BE BACK ONLINE AUG-10 THANKS TO THE MEMBERS THAT STILL LOVE THIS SITE

..................

[crystal32]

very sad he can get away with this and play these games. you think that it could be a criminal charge. it is so much easier to prove crimes online but yet people get away with them time and time again. i honestly dont no how he can face people and continue to talk in that shoutbox .. he obviously has no shame

but i am glad to see he ran the members off he deserves to sit and talk to himself!

[tigerterri]

Hey Everyone,

Hate to beat a dead horse but at this point we all need to SHUT MOSESGROSS2000 DOWN!! Sure most members are one at a time getting banned for their Last Hurrah!! But what about the poor unsuspecting soul that stumbles onto the site completely accidentally. I am talking about the Naive soul that I was about 1 Month ago be fore actually living through the whole M**** drama myself. When i started doing PTC/GPT sites I was absolutely clueless. That was last February. Luckily I stumbled quite accidentally on one of the Best GPT Sites out there. And I ended up in THE BEST DOWNLINE that someone computer Stupid could possibly find. My what I will call sponsor directed me to the best sites and to me Everybody was GOOOD. Then the end of May she went on vacation and I was on my own. What should I come upon then BigHouseGPT. Not knowing how the GPT world worked I Thought I had struck oil. My Guardian angel was somewhere in between Florida and Wisconsin and I was about to find out that not everything is as appears. First I saw a warning at LighthouseGPT from the owner to BEWARE of BigHouseGPT, and I thought Oh no she does not know what she is talking about. I had already been paid 2 by this site, but it did make me start looking deeper. The first thing I came across was Crystal32's postings. I was oh so seasoned at this that I thought "That person is not very nice and also mistaken" But now I am watching closely and wondering. Thank You so much for warning me Crystal32. Just wish I had been smart enough to listen to someone who had been around an awful lot longer then me!! That was OK because soon I was going to be in for a rude awakening. Well guess what. My eyes are wide open as alot of BHer's eyes are. One good thing that came out of it is I have met some wonderful people at BH and in a sense joined a family which makes it well worth all of the aggravation. I just can't help but think about the next tigerterri to fall off the turnip truck into Moses lap especially since he does even already have the other 3 sites talked about in comment #53 on page 4. Thank you SlyckQuick for your 5 min of Diggin. The only link I bothered with was this one:

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Click on it and see where Moses is asking poor unsuspecting people down on their luck to send him $5.00 and a SASE to get info to get "Up to $10,000 even with bad or no credit". There has got to be a way to put a stop to what this man is doing. Please anyone who cares lets band together to end his reign of terror. I think enough unsuspecting people have been taken for a ride.

Now for the main reason I came here tonight. I am sure alot of you saw the "Chat" where I talked to "Tiffany06" and she told me to "Call her so I could see once and for all that she was real" Well while I was "Talking" to "Tiffany06" I dialed her # on my Cellphone and surprisingly got a Voicemail. ("She" said the phone never rang so I dialed again and again got a voicemail). I figured ok this is one phone call I WILL be making tomorrow. Played a little more in chat that night taunting our fearless leader, and about 2 hours later thought to myself I will send a Text for her and she will get it in the morning. At 1:00 am my time 4:00am hers I sent a text to Moses/John/Tiffany. Immediately I got a text back "Who is this"? I was not playing that game so I texted back "Who is this"? Then I get a response "Tiffany". So I texted "This is tigerterri, the one that you spoke to tonight in the chatroom." I then got back the response, "I have not been on that site for over a week". Well now I want to talk on the phone old school. too much info to text, So I texted Back "If I call you will you answer? Or if you would rather Call Me." I then got the response "Call Me Please". So I called her. I have seen alot of remarks that she does not exist and frankly had come to that conclusion myself.
I spoke with her for quite some time on the phone and also sent her the link to this site so she could see for herself what Moses was doing. She said she did not think that John Cena even existed and now we could see a little bit of what she had gone through. She wanted all of the BHer's to know she would never say anything against any of them and that she was very upset he had been doing this. She honestly seemed on the up and up so basically I am just letting everyone know she honestly does exist and Moses is a real idiot by giving me her real telephone # and thinking I would not follow up on it. Also I was talking to Terri @ Two Divas and she is honestly doing an awesome job in making right what moses has done to the BHer's. If there are any other BHer's who were ripped off by Moses please come to this link and Send Terri A TT letting her know what you lost at BH including your Upgrades if you actually paid out of your pocket for them. I am owed $45.00 and she is making good on that plus. Several former BHer's have already received payment on what they have made as well as what they were owed by BH. You need to hurry though because she is not going to keep this offer going forever. There will be a time frame on it. She is just not sure what the time frame is. If she decides on a time frame I will come back and post it for you. Here is the link to The Two Divas. Come join us we are having a blast over there in chat with all of TTD's existing members and all of the exBHer's.

Revisit:

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Remember if BH owes you money send Terri a TT so she can attache a note to your membership.

One more thing, MasterSarg is a GREAT and CARING guy. The only reason he is still there is because he wants to weather out the month, get whatever is coming from the few networks moses has left and try to pay the pending off. If you go over there he is doing an awesome job of bringing pending down. He has even paid a few of the WHINERS off out of his own pocket. I am just really hoping he comes out of this unscathed because he is an awesome guy. Another plus for TTD is Terri made him an Admin at TTD and they are working hand in hand to try to make sure everyone from BH is done right. This has all really showed me the worst of the worst as well as the best of the best. I just hope the finale is soon to come and includes the total devastation of Moses. Lets make sure he Does not open another site which he told me he wants to do. He wants to call it Train Robbery. I would say after the Train Wreck he just caused he should never be allowed on a computer again in his life. I really hope if there is anyone on the edge about this you heed my warning better then I heeded Crystal32's warning. Sorry again Crystal32.

Terri L. Sinor/tigerterri Everywhere

[crystal32]

there is no need to say sorry. i have been in your shoes just recently i lost alot of money in ptc, i am still learning. i guess we all just need to remember if things look to good to be true then they probably are.

i upgraded in bighouse also and soon as i did i wanted to take it back lol i saw the signs right away ... hundreds of codes a day. no good gpt site does this.. they do encourage members to do offers but if you are spending all day putting in codes there is no time to do offers. also no gpt harrasses members to upgrade constantly, if members are doing offers this is how gpt sites survive. these things alone told me scam. and then all the emails ... the first one i saw asking for donations just blew me away and i decided enough was enough. i actually started posting here before i was banned as i just knew this was not good

my advice to newbies trying to earn an easy dollar is to do a whois check on any site you join to find out who owns it and then do a google search on the site. i have spent thousands of dollars in scam sites and altho it is only money i have earned on gpt and ptc sites it still hurts. i know personally i could not live with myself to do such crap to people. i treat others the way i want to be treated.

alot of people count on this kinda income to pay bills, feed kids, they may possibly have health issues i think it needs to be stopped but i have been trying for months to bring down scam sites and we may close bighouse but it dont stop him from getting another gpt in someone elses name just as samantha shepard does. she has probably owned over 200 ptc sites and all of which end scamming members

i think him taking his site offline 2 times now and blaming his members is a good thing because even the nieve people can see this guy is a nutcase. if members do wrong then you ban them not punish the whole site but going offline til they love you more. this guy is as big a scam as samantha and i will follow the pair of them and promote any scam they open.

if people have to show id and prove who they are before purchasing these sites there would be alot less scam on the internet but people are too money hungry and i dont see this ever happening. i have slowed down on joining unknown sites (wish i could say STOPPED COMPLETELY) but i am an addict lol,

being a member of forums such as these sure do help when it comes to finding scams and i thank every person that ever thought of opening up a site such as this one or made a post of a bad experience because it helps new people in this world save their time and money!!

one thing we can all say is we now no what an admin SHOULDNT be or do!!!

[butchykid]

update

US - 8/11/10 12:40 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: we are now open to all world now
US - 8/11/10 12:41 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: could you send a small code email please
US - 8/11/10 12:41 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: could you send a small code email please?
US - 8/11/10 12:41 AM
AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: @MOSES_THE_BOSS - When did this happen?
US - 8/11/10 12:41 AM
AsstAdmin
MaUS - 8/11/10 12:43 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: i just open it to all of the world bout 10 mins. ago
US - 8/11/10 12:47 AM
AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: New inbox message
US - 8/11/10 12:47 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: tysterSargUS - 8/11/10 12:47 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: so r u doing ok justin?
US - 8/11/10 12:47 AM
AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: Good night all
US - 8/11/10 12:48 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: ok nite: I can
US - 8/11/10 12:49 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: anyone online tonight?
US - 8/11/10 1:07 AM
Penny: Hmm
US - 8/11/10 1:09 AM
amandawhite: hello
US - 8/11/10 1:09 AM
amandawhite: is this sittttttte legit?
US - 8/11/10 1:09 AM
amandawhite: cause i heard its not but idk 4 sure
US - 8/11/10 1:10 AM
amandawhite: bbl
US - 8/11/10 1:12 AM
Penny: I wouldn't know sorry.
US - 8/11/10 1:13 AM
amandawhite: i hope it is
US - 8/11/10 1:13 AM
amandawhite: homieg3US - 8/11/10 1:14 AM
amandawhite: ok byby
US - 8/11/10 1:14 AM
Penny: Hm, take care. :]
US - 8/11/10 1:48 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: hey i pay all my members please check the payment proof page60 said up there it isnt
US - 8/11/10 1:49 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: I LOVE MY SITE AND I ONLY OPEN IT TO GIVE MONEY FOR MEMBERS TO PAY THERE BILLS I KNOW HOW IT IS PLUS I AM GOING TO BE A STATE TROPER UP HERE IN MOREHEAD KY
US - 8/11/10 1:50 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: I WORK HAND IN HAND WITH MY YOUTH AND HELPING THEM GET THERE EDUCATION
US - 8/11/10 1:51 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: I AM NOT FOR DRUGS IN THE WORLD AND I NEVER WILL BE THATS WHY I HAVE A BIGHOUSE CLUB TO MAYBE HELP A LITTLE IN UR NECK OF THE WOODS
US - 8/11/10 1:54 AM
Penny: Uhm Moses. Fyi you have a kink. How is one supposed to take a look at payment proof when the forum is "This forum is in maintenance mode. Currently, only staff members may log in."

US - 8/11/10 2:00 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: WELL JUSTIN MUST HAVE DID SOMETHING TO IT BECAUSE I HAVE NO CLUE ON HOW HE MADE IT AT ALL BUT I HAVE PAID ALREADY OVER 400 BUCKS SINCE JUNE-1ST
US - 8/11/10 2:01 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: .30$479
US - 8/11/10 2:01 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: 479.30


inbox message he just sent out

From Moses
Subject HELLO MEMBERS PLEASE READ
Date 8/11/2010 1:59 AM
Message THIS IS FOR ALL MEMBERS I AM TAKING A POLL AND NEED YOU ALL TO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK TO THIS
I WANT TO KNOW DO YOU STILL LOVE THIS SITE AND WHY ARE SO MANY MEMBERS PUTTING US DOWN I KNOW ME AND JUSTIN TRY SO HARD BUT JUSTIN MAY GET BUSY ALOT AND I AM GOING TO COLLEGE TO BE A STATE TROOPER OR KSP AND ITS HARD TO BE ONLINE A WHOLE LOT BUT I STILL DO IT FOR MY MEMBERS I KNOW SOMETIMES I STAY UP ALL NIGHT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL GET PAID ON TIME AND STILL GO TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS BUT I WANT TO KNOW ARE YOU A HAPPY MEMBER HERE AND IF NOT WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED ME TO DO BECAUSE I AM WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING I CAN TO GET MY MEMBERS HAPPY AGAIN THANKS
FROM MOSES GROSS


lol him and justin yeah right ...justin has been the one paying the member's
not moses.
US - 8/11/10 2:08 AM
ssherm: then why is payout payment still pending since july 11??
US - 8/11/10 2:09 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: WE HAD A ISSUE WITH THE OTHER PAYMENT WOMAN FROM TWO DIVAS GPT AND IS NOW GETTING MONEY BACK TO PAY ALL OF THE MEMBERS AGAIN
US - 8/11/10 2:10 AM
ssherm: ok
US - 8/11/10 2:10 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: YEP SO VERY SORRY
US - 8/11/10 2:11 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: NOW JUSTIN WHICH IS MASTERSRAG IS DOING ALL PAYMENTS

[crystal32]

OMG now he gonna scam all countries he knows he is out of luck with the few he allowed..... blaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

there is no end to this monster!!!!!!!!

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

I guess I'm the "other payment woman from thetwodivasgpt" Moses likes to refer to. I did make him apologize for telling people I stole his money.

I helped him out because I thought he was a good person and he wanted to be a GPT owner. I did his payments for him because he couldn't get a paypal account. Anyone that owed him money from GPT sites or Affiliates, would paypal me and I would paypal his members that he told me to. When he asked to borrow money I told him no and I felt uncomfortable even being asked to do that.

All the money in his account on my site was depleted and I didnt' feel comfortable processing his payments anymore but all affiliate money went towards paying his members. Then Justin took over doing the payments, adding offers, running his site, etc. He has even paid people out of his own pocket and by the way has received nothing from Moses for working for him for two months. He's equally disgusted with the way BigHouse is being run into the ground with Moses's multiple personalities. We've both asked to buy it to take care of his debt since we both feel attached to it. But Moses won't give it up.

Right now, whatever money Justin gets from the affiliates is paying down the debt. Whoever has signed up at my site and let me know they were owed money, upgrades or advertising from BigHouse, is being compensated per the deal I made above. Then Justin marks them paid over at BigHouse.

I just wanted to let you all know that I didn't cheat him. Justin isn't cheating him. He's doing his best to oversee things over there. Plus I hired him as my mod as long as he wants to do that. I'm noticing people are still joining BigHouse unaware of what's going on. Moses is still sending out promo codes and giving people upgrades. He has pages and pages of upgraded members which is worthless. I want so badly to post a link to this forum in his shoutbox but unfortunately I was banned as well as lot of people who are trying to get the truth out.

Anyway, please stay away from BigHouseGPT. Moses wants to be the big dog but he isn't paying anyone. The debt is going down because of Justin and me. Make sure if you are owed anything from Moses as of right now, that you sign up on my site and let me know and I'll give you the same deal. Anyone who signs up after today is on their own.

This is a great forum. Everyone needs to link it to their site. Which I am going to do right now. Thanks...........Terri

[beagleowner]

Is this a shiftcode site? Has anyone contacted them to shut it down?

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

I just did. I don't know what they do in these situations.

[crystal32]

well i dont think anyone blames you TheTwoDivasGPT ... i think people that have been a member all know what is happening but now that it is opened up to all sites he will scam many more. i just saw in the chat yesterday 2 people asking if the site was a scam and him telling them he has paid all his members over $400. i do have a friend that is still not banned there she just keeps me informed with the emails etc. but for her to post this link in his chat it may catch the eye of just a member or 2 or may get deleted before anyone sees it and in the process get her banned. i think she better of to keep us informed... i did try to signup again to warn people (god forgive me) but was not successful... i received an email from moses wilson... do you all know that samantha shepard is now samantha wilson. i believe moses is a relative to her. and just yesterday i received another email from moses again.... i took out the link so no one clicks it im scared of a virus ...



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[CRGPTChuck]

Yeah, this is ridiculous. I cant believe the stunts he has pulled and has not been shut down. Members are still trying to earn there? WTF. The only people what i see in the shoutbox is the Admins, Asst Admins, Mods and no members. Does he make every member what threatens to leave a admin, asst admin or mod? That is what it looks like to me.

I find it funny how he keeps on going on. The networks in my opinion should have banned him in my opinion or at least look into it.

I will 110% push for his site to come offline.

[butchykid]

8-11-2010 bh chat update

US - 8/11/10 8:05 PM
mosesisascammer: people lost over $150!
US - 8/11/10 8:05 PM
mosesisascammer: and because moses banned most of them
US - 8/11/10 8:06 PM
mosesisascammer: taking ALL THEIR EARNINGS
US - 8/11/10 8:06 PM
mosesisascammer: WHAT A MASSIVE EGO!
US - 8/11/10 8:07 PM
mosesisascammer: now the good parts about the site is...
US - 8/11/10 8:07 PM
mosesisascammer: he offered to pay $27 for you to signup and make money
US - 8/11/10 8:07 PM
mosesisascammer: http:// mosesscashtree. yolasite .com/
US - 8/11/10 8:07 PM
mosesisascammer: look at that!
US - 8/11/10 8:08 PM
mosesisascammer: an obvious scam!
US - 8/11/10 8:08 PM
mosesisascammer: WHOIS Record: moses gross 335 county road 1094 campton, Kentucky 41301 United States (606) 362-6925
US - 8/11/10 8:08 PM
mosesisascammer: thats great!
US - 8/11/10 8:09 PM
mosesisascammer: anyways, http://www. youtube. com/user/mosesgross21#p/a
US - 8/11/10 8:09 PM
mosesisascammer: wow... begging for $1?
US - 8/11/10 8:09 PM
mosesisascammer: http:// www. youtube .com/user/mosesgross21#p/a/u/0/58mMqxRcTsE
US - 8/11/10 8:10 PM
mosesisascammer: wow
US - 8/11/10 8:10 PM
mosesisascammer: terrible singing?
US - 8/11/10 8:10 PM
mosesisascammer: http:// www. youtube. com/user/mosesgross21#p/a/u/2/JZMDDIOldpo
US - 8/11/10 8:11 PM
mosesisascammer: online get rich scam?
US - 8/11/10 8:11 PM
mosesisascammer: well thats all i have to say... should get shutdown by shiftcode
US - 8/11/10 8:11 PM
mosesisascammer: http:// www. youtube. com/user/mosesgross21#p/a/u/1/sUCB4502MLs
US - 8/11/10 8:11 PM
mosesisascammer: another thing
US - 8/11/10 8:12 PM
mosesisascammer: sigh ... how about pay us and not just ban out accounts?
US - 8/11/10 8:58 PM
sirupe: moses is the worst admin ever
US - 8/11/10 10:52 PM
imno1really: hello im new
US - 8/11/10 10:52 PM
imno1really: wow thats a lota bad words ^^^
US - 8/12/10 1:13 AM
t_sinor: hi every one
US - 8/12/10 1:15 AM
t_sinor: @imno1really are you here?
US - 8/12/10 1:15 AM
t_sinor: Is anyone here?
US - 8/12/10 1:16 AM
t_sinor: This meswsage is for any poor soul who stumbles on this site.
US - 8/12/10 1:16 AM
t_sinor: Oops *Message*
US - 8/12/10 1:17 AM
t_sinor: Back to my message
US - 8/12/10 1:17 AM
t_sinor: To anyone who cares this site is going down
US - 8/12/10 1:19 AM
t_sinor: By the way Moses!! I do not talk behind anyones back either!! So glad I can update My Last Hurrah!!
US - 8/12/10 1:21 AM
t_sinor: One thing I should know from all you have taught me is never say never!! I think of all the warning signs That I missed and all of the people who inadvertently warned me but then I was srupid enough to trust you
US - 8/12/10 1:23 AM
t_sinor: I do wish he would have used a different alias!! Oh well I personally would love to talk to you to your face but know that as soon as you see this I will get my big red label back, Because we all know You can not handle honesty >:)
US - 8/12/10 1:25 AM
t_sinor: Honesty scares you to Death!! I do not even know the countless times I have asked you to sign this thing over to Sarg and your remark is Why can't I have my site.



US - 8/12/10 1:51 AM
t_sinor: Maybe my next stop should be to google the Kentucky State Trooper and give them a few paste and copies of Jerm arguing with jerm or you pretending to be JohnCenaHi Moses I'm back
US - 8/12/10 1:53 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: hello
US - 8/12/10 1:53 AM
t_sinor: I bet the kentucky state troopers would love to know one of their staqte troopers has split personalities and is scamming poor unsuspecting people out of their hard earned dollars and justifying it by sayint it is because they act like kids
US - 8/12/10 1:53 AM
t_sinor: Hey Moses how is it going for you tonight
US - 8/12/10 1:54 AM
t_sinor: Are your "Loving Members" Keeping you afloat?
US - 8/12/10 1:54 AM
t_sinor: How's John Cena doing?
US - 8/12/10 1:54 AM
t_sinor: How about Jerm
US - 8/12/10 1:54 AM
t_sinor: How is your "Wrestling School"
US - 8/12/10 1:56 AM
t_sinor: What about your "Kids"
US - 8/12/10 1:56 AM
t_sinor: What a Joke!!
US - 8/12/10 1:57 AM
t_sinor: God help any kid you would Mentor!!
US - 8/12/10 1:57 AM
t_sinor: So much for tqalking behind you back Huh?
US - 8/12/10 1:57 AM
t_sinor: Wasssa Matter Moses Cat got your tongue!!
US - 8/12/10 1:58 AM
t_sinor: How about all that crap you fed me about all youcare about is your members!!
US - 8/12/10 1:59 AM
t_sinor: "YOU Love Your Members soooooo much that you will rip them off right under their noses
US - 8/12/10 2:03 AM
t_sinor: And How about that awesome site Mosescash?
US - 8/12/10 2:04 AM
t_sinor: How many poor down and out people sent you there $5.00 and SASE for your hogwash bull to get them up to $10,000 dollars even with Bad or no credit.
US - 8/12/10 2:04 AM
t_sinor: How does a person like you sleep at night?
US - 8/12/10 2:05 AM
t_sinor: Not very well I am sure!!
US - 8/12/10 2:05 AM
t_sinor: Oh Moses where are you????
US - 8/12/10 2:05 AM
t_sinor: Getting ready to shut down and look like a glorified whackjob again??
US - 8/12/10 2:07 AM
t_sinor: To even think there ill be money to pay pending from the networks is just preposterous.


US - 8/12/10 2:10 AM
t_sinor: I do Want to thank you however
US - 8/12/10 2:11 AM
t_sinor: Than you for taking someone as trusting as me and showing me how evil people can be.
US - 8/12/10 2:13 AM
t_sinor: Why don't you do what is honestly best for this site and SELL IT TO TERRI AND MASTERSARG!!
US - 8/12/10 2:14 AM
t_sinor: You have to know by now MOSES=ZERO MEMBERS & ZERO MEMBERS = NO MORE BIGHOUSE


just want to give a chat update.....i'm done with his sorry u know what...and people like moses.

[butchykid]

updat

new moses sighting

http://www.stumblehere.com/a/mosesgross21/

http://www.youtube.com/user/mosesgross21#p/u/4/yNfKlPfsttA

[RxQueen]

wow looks like we have our future american idol right here folks!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/mosesgross21#p/u/3/Jit4CF_LaTg

http://www.youtube.com/user/mosesgross21#p/u/1/lEohvgOJo9I

lmfao

[CRGPTChuck]

Looks like his face has been hit with an aux. But i am lovin them songs he can really sing...doing well for someone with family issues.. i would have thought that he would not have enough time to sing...or had no electricity? Ohh welll all i can say is...


MOSES + YOUTUBE = EXPOSED

haha...nice find.

[CRGPTChuck]

Hey all some more information...i called his number because i wanted to call his club;
http://bighousegpt.com/BIGHOUSECLUB

Because i have a drug problem...as you can tell ;) ;). Well the number i used was a fail as it didn't work so he lied on his Domain Who-is.

[Merlin2307]

Maybe we will all get lucky and he will get a donation from John Cena or the WWE and he won't need to swindle us out of hard earned money. lol. JMO:alien:

[CRGPTChuck]

Maybe he can sing this song now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctVmNbVu2KA

Yes that is a recommendation! =)

[tigerterri]

Hey guys,

This is for any and all those following M***** BigHouse TAKEDOWN!! MasterSarg and Terri over at TheTwoDivas are in the process we hope of putting some final nails in the coffin over there...Pending is down to ZERO thanks to these wonderful people over there. MasterSarg will probably be breaking out soon so there will be no possibility for those who are still Owed Money over there to even be paid.

Those of us smart BHers who have looked for greener pastures have moved over to TTD. Obviously the BEST ADMIN on the planet. How many people would take over someone elses train wreck and make so much progress. This note to anyone who has not left the "Dark Side" and come over to the "Pink Side" You need to hurry and Terri will still take care of what you are owed over there. The more People to leave and get their Money elsewhere the sooner Moses can Burn in ****! You can fill in the blank. I have been banking on my member ads over at TTD!! The members are as great as the owner as well as the ADMIN!! (Notice no ASSIST before that title as it should be) If you have not already joined us over there here is the link to come on down:

http://thetwodivasgpt.shiftcode.com < removed ref link >

You can not beat this site!! Daily cashout with $1.00 Balance and Daily Contests That ROCK!! Come see for yourself!! Join the Happy Happy Family over at TTD!!

Lookin forward to seeing you in the Land of Pink!! No Stripes allowed!!

Terri L. Sinor/Tigerterri

P.S. Hopefully the next posting from me will Be the final posting Announcing the CLOSURE OF BIGHOUSE!! Come on Down Guys!! :D

[tigerterri]

Help guys, This was just put into chat at BH:
http://thetwodivasgpt.shiftcode.com/ < removed ref link >
ay gooood byyye and i will pray for u and this site is dea and gone so
US - 8/15/10 12:40 PM
ab123200: BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEE
US - 8/15/10 2:32 PM
frozenimage: This site is not dead, at least the site payed us. There is still hope for this site.
US - 8/15/10 3:03 PM
amandawhite: what offers are easy to do?


If you know either of these people explain to them MOSES IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PENDING GOING TO ZERO. if they want a good site come to http://thetwodivasgpt.shiftcode.com/< removed ref link >

Tigerterri
P.S Crystal 32 if you see this get your spy to put something in chat everyone else has been banned!!

[mastersarg]

I was a member at Bighousegpt And the owner started showing everyone his different personalities and at that point the members started to figure out that the Big House Gpt site was one of the biggest scams on the net and we all need to ban together and submit complaints to shift-code and all of his networks so we can get the site shut down and hopefully stop him from opening up any more sites and that also includes signing up with any more Network affiliates.


Thank you all for your help in trying to get the Big House gpt scam off line and shut down for good.

Thank you ;
Mastersarg Ex asst-admin of big house gpt.

[butchykid]

update 8/15/2010

bh chat

US - 8/15/10 12:40 PM
ab123200: to moses or john or you knows who u are i want to say gooood byyye and i will pray for u and this site is dea and gone so
US - 8/15/10 12:40 PM
ab123200: BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEE
US - 8/15/10 2:32 PM
frozenimage: This site is not dead, at least the site payed us. There is still hope for this site.
US - 8/15/10 3:03 PM
amandawhite: what offers are easy to do?
US - 8/15/10 4:17 PM
terrimail: @amandawhite - go to your inbox to see imp messages
US - 8/15/10 4:18 PM
terrimail: @frozenimage - go to your inbox to see imp messages
US - 8/15/10 4:21 PM
EX-AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: This site is 100% dead
US - 8/15/10 4:22 PM
terrimail: what offers ? there is no offers or ptcs
US - 8/15/10 4:23 PM
terrimail: nothing to do here except twiddle our thumbs
US - 8/15/10 4:24 PM
EX-AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: @terrimail - I took the offers down since moses didn't pay the pending payouts, and the owner of ttd is the one that made the payments Moses is a scam
US - 8/15/10 4:25 PM
terrimail: good idea mastersarg
US - 8/15/10 4:26 PM
EX-AsstAdmin
MasterSarg: @terrimail - thank you

[butchykid]

bh chat update 8/16/2010


US - 8/17/10 1:04 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: hey you all the chat box is back and all members has been paid up so please have fun here while i am gone i will be leaving to the great state of mi. on the 22th and going to over 25 more states so i may be gone a long time and we are in the process of
US - 8/17/10 1:04 AM
Admin
MOSES_THE_BOSS: selling this site

[butchykid]

big house update as of 8/18/2010


mastersarg has taken over bighousegpt :)

he is the only owner and as some may know he was paying the member's.
bighouse wasn't bad just moses was.

i will for one will be with bh and for my friend mastersarg :)

so it's a new begining of bighousegpt so let's have fun and make some money and just might make new friend's along the way too...

javacat out....

[Merlin2307]

Mastersarge, I would first change the site design and name. There's too much sewage smell associate with the name Bighhousegpt. JMO:alien:

[mastersarg]

I got control of BH this morning and I am the owner of the script from shiftcode and I changed the name from Big House Gpt to justintime4cash.com Please stop bye and say Hi.


Thank you all

[CRGPTChuck]

I find it funny how people pretend to sell sites then post here?

What the heck is this?

LOL.....just LOL

[mastersarg]

CRGPTChuck For your information I do have control of the bighousegpt script I did change it to justintime4cash.com I have no problem posting proof that I now own the site Please Quite accusing me of stating that i do not own the site, Do a whois search for http://www.justintime4cash.com and you will see that I own the domain and that it is pointed to the servers at shiftcode.

you can get a hold of aspiringangel01 and she can also verify that have the site I can also name a few more people, So please let the BH crap die since BH is no longer around.


Thank you all

[tigerterri]

:stupid: Hi Guys I Fully understand How someone on the outside looking in could think that "THE PERSON WHO OWNED" BigHouseGPT Would not be beyond "PRETENDING" to "SELL" BH to the Current owner of BH...If this person would have just given MasterSarg a chance to FINISH the Time consuming work that it takes to COMPLETELY WIPE THE ORIGINAL OWNER from the canvas and rename it then That person may just realize that a sale actually took place, Which is what the faithful followers were wanting to happen to begin with. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion (EVEN IF THEY ARE DEAD WRONG), However Smart people generally make up their minds by utilizing Facts. Those of us who stood by our FEARLESS LEADER, MasterSarg, know what went on behind the scenes. It is up to each individual whether you listen to someone who knows the FACTS or someone who goes so far as to "ASSUME" the facts. We all know what the word "ASSUME" Actually stands for now don't we. Lets Look at Facts: DID PENDING GET PAID?? Hmm How did MOSES pull that one off?? Everyone has followed this Soap Opera all the way to youtube!! Another FACT: Does the man in those videos really seem like someone who could have cared enough to take care of the BigHouse Debt?? Or Could have cared less?? Here is another Fact: How would said youtube star have gotten one of the most loved and trusted owners of a site that has been around for years to help him with his "DEBT" (even though he took advantage of her caring/trusting personality)?? Again I repeat anyone who has payed attention here can come to their own conclusions and Most people will look at FACTS and not listen to someone who chooses to ASSUME the worst!! We Welcome anybody with an open mind who wants to have fun and not create more drama to join us at JustinTime4Cash. All Negative people who do not want to have fun, KEEP FOLLOWING "YOUR" FEARLESS LEADER TO YOUTUBE!! I HEAR HE HAS MORE TO ENTERTAIN YOU WITH and as long as he has FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS GOOD OR BAD he will not let you down!! Hope to see everyone who wants to know the truth over with the rest of us to help us build this site to the best it can be!! As far as I am concerned this book is CLOSED!! BIGHOUSEGPT IS DEAD AND BURIED!! Make your own decision and come check us out!! Do not blindly follow the blind :\ Here is your link to a happy happy world - Revisit: http://www.justintime4cash.com < removed ref link > :D LETS MAKE MONEY!! LETS HAVE FUN!! :D

Thank You for having an open mind and following this to THE END!!

Terri L. Sinor/Tigerterri :p

< Please do not keep posting referral links in the body of your posts - this is against the forum rules >

[Daniel Mitchell]

he also sends about 100 promo codes a day... like hello???? you would think he would be asking people to complete offers rather then sending so many codes a day that they have no time to do offers!

DO NOT try to spam the forum

Adverts removed

[mastersarg]

Big House is no longer in Business I bought the site that was owned by Moses I changed the name and the design, Please Let the Bighouse crap Die since many of the members that was scammed by him would like to forget that site even Existed.

Thank you all for dropping the bighouse scam.


Justin (AKA Mastersarg)

[bellestraker]

You buy a site which has scammed members and then you come here screaming for them to "drop the fact they were scammed" because you bought...and now wish to profit...from their abuse.

What the hell is wrong with you people. WHY would you people keep buying up sites that have scammed members.

You want to act like you are doing the members a favor by trying to silence them because......Gee they probably dont want to talk about a site that scammed them.

You are right...I'm sure they dont want to TALK...what they want is to be PAID and for me, personally.......I want all the no-minds buying up these scam sites to start thinking about the damage they are doing.

YOU dont want them to "talk about it" because that will make it harder for YOU to profit from buying this scam site and if I have anything to say about it.......this is what it would be......

I am sick of it so.....Buckle your belt because its gonna be a bumpy ride.


Do you really think changing the name from Bighouse to justintime4cash.com is going to erase what was done..and what you are continuing to do.

pfft

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

I just have to put my two cents in here. BigHouseGPT was owned by a scammer but he sold it to Justin who IS NOT! Everyone that cashed out at BigHouse was actually paid by myself and Justin and we even transferred some balances to my site to make sure people were taken care of. I gave them free advertising, reimbursed them for their upgrades, etc. Please give JustinInTime4Cash a chance because he is doing his best to get people back there. Anyone who knows him, knows he's a great guy.

[bellestraker]

If everyone is paid that is nice BUT....why do people keep buying sites that have scammed members.

Why would you even want to deal with someone who has screwed people around.

I dont get it.


FTR...I also found the post itself offensive. It comes across like an order to "cease and desist with all talk of this site being a scam". WHY would you want to protect a scammer?

IMO this is just one more example of helping those who rip people off.
You buy his site and then you try to shut everyone up.
pfft.

[Merlin2307]

I don't know why Belle but for some reason your post brings to mind my favorite Bob Dylan poem "Do not go gentle into the night". I understand what Two Divas and Justin are saying,but I also understand Belle's point and I think,personally her's is more important in this case. Can anyone tell me If Daniel Mitchell was offered payment or some sort of compensation for what work he did or Is he one who fell through the crack? JMO:alien:

[bellestraker]

LOL Merlin...I had to google it becasue I hadnt heard it before....I love it.

What makes me even more angry about buying up these scam sites is the lack of any reason.( even a dumb one)
and that makes me believe the reason is simple greed.

Why buy a site from a notorious scammer instead of starting up your own?

Doesnt it make sense that it would be a slap in the face to every member who got ripped off. It also is almost condoning what they have done. There are many sites for sale so WHY????? buy from a scammer.

I was not a member of THIS site but do a fast google on the purchase of these scam sites and you will realize just how big of an issue it has become.....and every pat on the back makes them a little more confident and encourages a few more to join the group.


I am only one person but I intend to shine as much light as possible on every scam site being bought.

[mastersarg]

bellestraker,

If you all want to trash the bighouse scam that is fine with me but just leave me out of it Please, I was even scammed by him.
I am not here to Make enemy's I just want to get the air cleared here Yes I was a member of Big House I was also paid but when Moses started to steal the identity of wrestlers The other members started to come to me as a friend since they couldn't trust Moses, For the longest the members tried to convince Moses to sell the site to me and he refused back in August Moses decided to sell me the site, The members said that once I got the site and changed the name that they would come back. As the other members can and will tell you if you ask I was The only honest mod/assistant-admin at that time I earned the support ,trust and the friendship of most of the members. If you and everyone on this forum that is posting in this thread would ask me and/or ask the members that got scammed By Moses That I am am honest,Trustworthy and a good friend to any one that any one if you all would just give me a chance to prove it. I have earned the respect and The support of Other ptc, And Gpt site owners That wouldn't have happened if I was dis-honest.

Thank you

Justin (The Owner Of justintime4cash.com

[bellestraker]

If you all want to trash the bighouse scam that is fine with me but just leave me out of it, I was even scammed by him.


Thank you


*I* am not bringing you into it.
*I* did not deal with this scammer...or purchase his site....you did.

IMO you are very likely a nice guy but my question is pretty simple
and your response...once again is....an effort to silence everyone.

I even feel a bit bad because you just happen to be the author of the one that broke the camels back...so to speak but at some point....enough is enough..

I just dont get it but if there is a semi sensible explanation I would love to hear it.

Is there?

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

Belle, I think Justin is just frustrated with comparing JustinTime4Cash to BigHouse since it doesn't exist anymore. And to tell you the truth, he bought it so no one would be scammed and anyone that was owed money was paid. However, there are people that fall through the cracks so if anyone is owed money from the old BigHouse, please contact me at: theresawinchester@hotmail.com and let me know who you are and how much you were owed and I will take care of it.

By the way, if Justin hadn't purchased the site, it would have just gone "poof" and no one would have been paid so kudos to him for taking over in a bad situation and trying to turn things around.

[bellestraker]

Belle, I think Justin is just frustrated with comparing JustinTime4Cash to BigHouse since it doesn't exist anymore. And to tell you the truth, he bought it so no one would be scammed and anyone that was owed money was paid. However, there are people that fall through the cracks so if anyone is owed money from the old BigHouse, please contact me at: theresawinchester@hotmail.com and let me know who you are and how much you were owed and I will take care of it.

By the way, if Justin hadn't purchased the site, it would have just gone "poof" and no one would have been paid so kudos to him for taking over in a bad situation and trying to turn things around.



I agree with you ...If he paid all the members that would seem to be a GOOD thing.

I will even go so far as to say that I apologize for "automatically assuming" they were not paid

BUT.....I still have no answer to a very simple question and that is WHY?????

Is he going to buy up and pay off the members of every site? Of course he isn't and there is no reason why he should.

There are 2 options when someone wants to start a site. ( I'm sure there are more but for my purposes there will be two)

1. Start off completely clean...buy everything "unused" and open the doors...
easy,peasy.

or

2. Deal with someone who has scammed a large group of people which means you are basically cleaning up his mess and giving HIM a clean slate.Why shouldn't he come back and repeat the scam...HE came out of it OK and if anyone pays the piper it will be Justin who now owns a site which will forever be associated with a scam PO.

It also in a big way neatly stops anyone from continuing to warn others. Just as is being done in this situation. A couple years from now when this guy slithers back in and someone says he is a scammer or people ask what happened to his last site.........

this will be the answer.......
"Everyone who was owed any money was paid".
Case closed.

Stepping in may seem like a really nice thing to do but what it does is muddy the waters and in the end ....the scammer is never held accountable and the new PO's name is tainted

so...why would anyone choose #2.

So...back to my question....WHY???

I think Merlin also asked a question and I may have missed it but I didn't see an answer to that either.

I actually am feeling a bit sorry for Justin and as I said.... IF he has paid everyone I do not agree it is a good thing BUT I also think he probably thought it was.

One more question....Was the database wiped clean after the members were paid? I think you mentioned some payments were made by giving them ads or something.

When this is done some may say it is better than nothing but lets face it...It was not what the members earned.

If you work this week and expect wages but your boss says he has decided instead to give you a one year subscription to the local newspaper.....( so you can look for a job)

would you be happy?



BTW.
Thank you for giving another viewpoint...and for being a good friend to Justin.
Even though I have not come across very nice you have responded politely and professionally....We may not agree but I do appreciate it.

[tigerterri]

Hi Belle,

You state that it was stated that members were given ads in lieu of payment owed from BigHouseGPT and that is not what they earned...I would like to clear up your incorrect understanding of what was said...I was one of those people that you refer to so I happen to know what went on first hand and am not misquoting something told to me nor am I making any assumptions...I can definitely see your point on alot of things but as for those of us who worked so hard to close down BigHouse, at the time we honestly thought it was a solution to a major problem that was happening first hand to a handful of us (as you insinuate) "ignorant" enough to care. Maybe we did handle it wrong but I do not think that digging this up and slamming Justin is at all right.

As someone who went through this first hand let me explain a few things to you so you at least have proper information...NOONE was offered FREE advertising in lieu of the money owed to them... What WE were given was comparable advertising that we had PAID FOR at BigHouse but was no longer any good due to the site was shut down...We were ALSO GIVEN any upgrades we had paid for on top of all Monies owed us by BigHouse!! All Monies owed to us at BigHouse were put on an account for each and every one of us and for every PENNY we were owed we were paid!! We also got the pleasure of having alot of fun on another site and meeting even more FRIENDS and FAMILY then what we had all met while we were learning about the EVIL side of the PTC/GPT world. I would think rather then tearing to pieces the people who cared enough to make a BAD SITUATION into a SEMI HAPPY ENDING, A person might want to say GOOD JOB!! THANK YOU FOR CARING AND PUTTING YOUR REPUTATION ON THE LINE FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO BE RIPPED OFF!!

No Justin can not fix every scam site out there!! DUHH!! Why would he even want to try!! All of us were connected to each other for the 6 weeks this went on and he cared enough about all of us to see it to the end!! Maybe he should have started from scratch...But at the time our main goal was to end the reign of terror going on at the time and it did feel as though we had won!!

As for Moses starting another site and being able to say "ALL DEBTS WERE PAID" There are alot of people out there just waiting for him to try and yes there are alot of people who know "HE HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER WITH THOSE DEBTS BEING PAID!!"

My question is why beat a dead horse PRIOR TO this even happening!! Yes I agree people need to be warned about SCAMMERS!! I just do not understand how ANYONE Can be so cruel to someone who stood behind the members of a site and made sure that they were not SCAMMED on the premise of wanting to stop scammers from starting another site!! All this is doing is making it very hard for the Honest Person to MOVE ON and create a site for all of us to enjoy!! Why not educate and help THE HONEST PERSON and when The Original Scammer does try to start another site then EVERYONE can make sure all of the newbies and everyone else are warned!! In my opinion this is a battle that will be alot easier fought if ALL HONEST PEOPLE WORK TOGETHER TO TAKE SAID SCAMMERS DOWN!!

Thank you for the education you gave all of us of the problems created by handling things the way they were handled, But at this point I do feel there is alot more to be gained by working together to ensure M**** Does NOT START ANOTHER SITE!!

Thanx,

Terri L. Sinor/Tigerterri :D

[bellestraker]

I am sorry but I did not "STATE that it was STATED" members were given ads in lieu of payment.

What I said was I THOUGHT the poster had mentioned something about SOME members being given ads.I was questioning whether that was a fact.


and where in hell did I in any way "insinuate" that anyone was ignorant for "caring" or for trying to shut down a scam site. Please don't try to play the victim on my dime....especially when "members were never mentioned except to say they should be paid...
Yep...very hurtful I'm sure.

The following is what I had read and was asking about.


Everyone that cashed out at BigHouse was actually paid by myself and Justin and we even transferred some balances to my site to make sure people were taken care of. I gave them free advertising, reimbursed them for their upgrades, etc.


When someone says "transferring balances to my site" I don't think it is a jump to think they mean...transferring "monies owed" to their site. which is another thing that happens on a regular basis when scam sites are being hot potatoed around the internet.

A new PO ( or the old one with a new identity ) takes over and they "transfer" the debt to a new site....People then applaud this great saviour until they find out that months ( usually forever) passes and that money never goes from "being transferred to being paid".

I understand you wanting to defend Justin because he was obviously good to you but please remember...you may know him but to me he is just another person who may be anything from a friend covering for the original PO to being the original PO himself back with a new ID.

The way to find out is to ask but that was not my main concern........my main point was wanting to know WHY.

I do not apologize for asking questions.You say there is no way this guy could come back to scam again because too many people know. I've been around since the mid 90's and believe me....I have seen many scammer PO's slide back in and in the last year or two very few bother to name and shame.. It didn't use to be that way but it is now.

I agree if this is how it happened and I now have no reason to not believe it then Justin did a good thing for those members BUT....I also stand behind my opinion that scam sites are becoming almost epidemic and IMO ANYTHING that gives them any assistance ( intentional or not) should be discussed and an effort made to change it.

My main reason for even being involved in this discussion was to get the answer to a very simple question..........WHY????

The logical person to ask is someone who has done it so I asked here but I think NOW...in THIS case the answer has become fairly obvious. He took over the site because he wanted to help the members and it also appears he followed through and DID just that.

That makes him the second person I have seen do this for what appears to be honourable reasons. I have probably seen this done literally hundreds of times for unethical reasons so it actually feels good to say I think I am wrong THIS time...

I now think I understand why "this person" took over THIS site and I have nothing bad to say about Justin but you can bet when the next scam site is taken over.....I'll be back.<s>

Have a good one

Belle



But at this point I do feel there is alot more to be gained by working together to ensure M**** Does NOT START ANOTHER SITE!!

I agree.

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

Belle I know you had a question that I thought I would go ahead and answer eventhough TigerTerri pretty much told you the whole story. But a lot of people didn't get a chance to cash out since Moses was on a tirade of taking his site down when he threw a fit, etc. So Justin and I did our best to get people paid and balances transferred to my site if they were a member. (I also did post in here earlier that I would pay anyone that let me know what they were owed in case they were overlooked). Plus before Justin revamped the site, we deleted the database so everyone could sign back up if they wanted to.

I completely understand about letting people know about scam sites. I've seen too many sites up and vanish and no one got their money. Justin and I made sure this wasn't going to happen when we saw the downhill turn BigHouse took.

I hope I've answered all your questions. If not please contact me. Thanks for listening......Terri

[bellestraker]

Belle I know you had a question that I thought I would go ahead and answer eventhough TigerTerri pretty much told you the whole story. But a lot of people didn't get a chance to cash out since Moses was on a tirade of taking his site down when he threw a fit, etc. So Justin and I did our best to get people paid and balances transferred to my site if they were a member. (I also did post in here earlier that I would pay anyone that let me know what they were owed in case they were overlooked). Plus before Justin revamped the site, we deleted the database so everyone could sign back up if they wanted to.

I completely understand about letting people know about scam sites. I've seen too many sites up and vanish and no one got their money. Justin and I made sure this wasn't going to happen when we saw the downhill turn BigHouse took.

I hope I've answered all your questions. If not please contact me. Thanks for listening......Terri



Since reading your post ( and receiving a private email )I debated removing what I had written because I don't want to leave anything where someone else may jump to the same conclusion I did.

I am not going to do that simply because I think if it has been said...it should be owned ( and kept) so I guess I will just trust that anyone reading will go to the end.

When I first read Justins post with all the caps I saw it as an order to not discuss this site and I reacted to that but more importantly I had just had enough of people buying scam sites which are almost always used to jerk around and re-scam the members.

However....I was wrong about Justin and I am convinced he bought the site for no other reason than to help the members.

Even though I still do not agree with buying scam sites I have to agree that in Justins case it certainly appears his actions were completely done to help the members.

I also received an email this morning from someone I know ( and trust) and who is also against buying scam sites. They had been away so had not seen the thread but what they said was "Holy **** my friend...I think you put your foot in it...This is one of the good guys"

So...I will copy Justin's posting style :p and hopefully it wont be missed.


I WAS WRONG ABOUT JUSTIN AND HE TOOK THIS SITE OVER FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF PAYING ALL MEMBERS.
MORE IMPORTANTLY...( with the help of the two divasgpt) HE FOLLOWED THROUGH AND DID EXACTLY THAT.


THIS IS THE KIND OF PO WHO SHOULD BE SUPPORTED ...NOT BASHED AND I APOLOGIZE TO HIM.

Belle

and now I will go find some bacon to go with the egg on my face.:p


Maybe I should read my sig more often...

[tigerterri]

Belle,

I am very glad when the next person tries to scam you will be there!! I am in no way shape or form looking for an enemy and yes I am glad you did not remove your postings due to I also believe if you say something it should be owned and feel that there are alot of people who deserve to "BE AWARE" all is not as it appears in the GPT/PTC world and to quote someone I learned alot from throughout all of this "IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE"!! Thank You Crystal32!!

Now the reason I am even bothering with this is to just clear up a few things that you did "State" in your last posting...This I know because when I question what is said and how it is said I scroll up reread and make sure I am not misinterpreting, misquoting, nor reading between the lines what I am "Stating" in "my" post...I also do not assume my own definition of what I am reading...I am not computer literate enough to know how to do this the fancy way you do it so I will do it the copy and paste way I do it...We will start with the feeling of being "Ignorant" for what "WE" did in taking down and encouraging M**** to sell the site to Justin...The site going down included several "MEMBERS" whether you mentioned "MEMBERS" or not "We" are part of this as well and "WE" all encouraged Justin to try to get M**** to "GIVE" him the site in exchange for him taking the debt of paying off all members!! So needless to say when you slam Justin for how he handled things you are also "Slamming" Those "Members" who were walking hand in hand with Justin through the whole thing...OK that said lets get back to being "called" "Ignorant"...and I quote you regarding "Once you say something it should be owned (and kept)...I agree wholeheartedly which is why I never say anything derogatory about "ANYONE" until I have thoroughly looked into everything I am about to say...And I quote you:

__________________
Royal Surf**Word Linx**Matrix Mails**Link Grand**
The trouble ain't that people are ignorant:
it's that they know so much that ain't so.~ Josh Billings

Correct me if I am wrong this is at the bottom of every posting you do and you need to "OWN" the fact of how one can interpret it!! Next on my list--And I quote:

Please don't try to play the victim on my dime....especially when "members were never mentioned except to say they should be paid...
Yep...very hurtful I'm sure.

I in no way shape or form am "PLAYING THE VICTIM" on yours or anyone else's dime due to the fact that I AM ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES THAT WAS NOT A VICTIM...THANKS TO JUSTIN, TERRI, THE TWO DIVAS, CRYSTAL32 AND THE MANY MEMBERS THAT STOOD HAND IN HAND WITH ME AND NOSE TO NOSE WITH MOSES GROSS TO END ALL OF THIS!!

Now for the last thing I am going to address and I quote again:

I do not apologize for asking questions.You say there is no way this guy could come back to scam again because too many people know. I've been around since the mid 90's and believe me....I have seen many scammer PO's slide back in and in the last year or two very few bother to name and shame.. It didn't use to be that way but it is now.

Frankly I would much rather have you in MY corner then to be on the other side of your fight and I personally hope you feel the same about me but again I never said or even insinuated that the scammer is not capable of doing this again and now I quote myself:

As for Moses starting another site and being able to say "ALL DEBTS WERE PAID" There are alot of people out there just waiting for him to try and yes there are alot of people who know "HE HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER WITH THOSE DEBTS BEING PAID!!"

Simply stated I was saying that there are enough people out there that WILL NOT LET THIS DROP that I feel that as long as everyone watches out for him he is not going to be aqble to pull it off very easily...I was told by Crystal32 that he has no intention of ever allowing M**** to start another scam site and is going to be right there to make sure he can not do it!! With someone like you out there and all the rest of us that M**** has trained about good sites versus evil sites I was just "STATING" that it would not be easily accomplished.

I am very glad to have gotten to know you through all of this...There can never be enough BULLDOGS out there to fight the likes of M****!! I commend you for a battle well fought!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! Just please make sure you have your facts straight...a little bit of homework can keep alot of egg off of ones face!! LOL

Again thanx for letting me voice my opinion as small as it is!!

Terri L. Sinor/tigerterri

[Merlin2307]

Not to interfer,but one question that is still goating at me and hasn't been answered. Was Dennis Mitchell ever paid? Thanks. :alien:

[bellestraker]

Belle,

I am very glad when the next person tries to scam you will be there!! I am in no way shape or form looking for an enemy and yes I am glad you did not remove your postings due to I also believe if you say something it should be owned and feel that there are alot of people who deserve to "BE AWARE" all is not as it appears in the GPT/PTC world and to quote someone I learned alot from throughout all of this "IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE"!! Thank You Crystal32!!

Now the reason I am even bothering with this is to just clear up a few things that you did "State" in your last posting...This I know because when I question what is said and how it is said I scroll up reread and make sure I am not misinterpreting, misquoting, nor reading between the lines what I am "Stating" in "my" post...I also do not assume my own definition of what I am reading...I am not computer literate enough to know how to do this the fancy way you do it so I will do it the copy and paste way I do it...We will start with the feeling of being "Ignorant" for what "WE" did in taking down and encouraging M**** to sell the site to Justin...The site going down included several "MEMBERS" whether you mentioned "MEMBERS" or not "We" are part of this as well and "WE" all encouraged Justin to try to get M**** to "GIVE" him the site in exchange for him taking the debt of paying off all members!! So needless to say when you slam Justin for how he handled things you are also "Slamming" Those "Members" who were walking hand in hand with Justin through the whole thing...OK that said lets get back to being "called" "Ignorant"...and I quote you regarding "Once you say something it should be owned (and kept)...I agree wholeheartedly which is why I never say anything derogatory about "ANYONE" until I have thoroughly looked into everything I am about to say...And I quote you:

__________________
Royal Surf**Word Linx**Matrix Mails**Link Grand**
The trouble ain't that people are ignorant:
it's that they know so much that ain't so.~ Josh Billings

Correct me if I am wrong this is at the bottom of every posting you do and you need to "OWN" the fact of how one can interpret it!! Next on my list--And I quote:

Please don't try to play the victim on my dime....especially when "members were never mentioned except to say they should be paid...
Yep...very hurtful I'm sure.

I in no way shape or form am "PLAYING THE VICTIM" on yours or anyone else's dime due to the fact that I AM ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES THAT WAS NOT A VICTIM...THANKS TO JUSTIN, TERRI, THE TWO DIVAS, CRYSTAL32 AND THE MANY MEMBERS THAT STOOD HAND IN HAND WITH ME AND NOSE TO NOSE WITH MOSES GROSS TO END ALL OF THIS!!

Now for the last thing I am going to address and I quote again:

I do not apologize for asking questions.You say there is no way this guy could come back to scam again because too many people know. I've been around since the mid 90's and believe me....I have seen many scammer PO's slide back in and in the last year or two very few bother to name and shame.. It didn't use to be that way but it is now.

Frankly I would much rather have you in MY corner then to be on the other side of your fight and I personally hope you feel the same about me but again I never said or even insinuated that the scammer is not capable of doing this again and now I quote myself:

As for Moses starting another site and being able to say "ALL DEBTS WERE PAID" There are alot of people out there just waiting for him to try and yes there are alot of people who know "HE HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER WITH THOSE DEBTS BEING PAID!!"

Simply stated I was saying that there are enough people out there that WILL NOT LET THIS DROP that I feel that as long as everyone watches out for him he is not going to be aqble to pull it off very easily...I was told by Crystal32 that he has no intention of ever allowing M**** to start another scam site and is going to be right there to make sure he can not do it!! With someone like you out there and all the rest of us that M**** has trained about good sites versus evil sites I was just "STATING" that it would not be easily accomplished.

I am very glad to have gotten to know you through all of this...There can never be enough BULLDOGS out there to fight the likes of M****!! I commend you for a battle well fought!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! Just please make sure you have your facts straight...a little bit of homework can keep alot of egg off of ones face!! LOL

Again thanx for letting me voice my opinion as small as it is!!

Terri L. Sinor/tigerterri


small voice....yeah right!!!...;)

The logical way to get facts straight is to ask and I have found when dealing with scammers...asking doesnt get me anywhere. I get better results by taking it to the forums . By doing that it allows the scammer a voice but it also allows anyone who may know s/he is lying the opportunity to say so..

MY mistake was in not allowing for the 1% who are legit and in assuming members were not paid. There is not much I can do about that except apologize and that was done.

If I didnt mess up once in awhile I'd starve to death....no egg...no breakfast.:p

I'm sure we'll run across each other again and ...at least now we have a better idea of what side everyone is on.

Thanks

Belle

I hope someone will answer Merlin's question...

[tigerterri]

Belle,

Very Good Question Merlin!! How about it Dennis Mitchell?? Were you ever paid?? Did you let anyone know that you were not paid?? Inquiring minds want to know!! And again I thank you Belle and I do apologize if I came off brash but it has and I quote "Been one heck of a bumpy road"!!

Terri L. Sinor/tigerterri

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

To Merlin: I do not recall a Dennis Mitchell being a member at BigHouse but if he was owed money, I encourage him to get in touch with me. It's hard to remember everyone that comes and goes and I do remember telling everyone before the site was changed over to let me know and I would take care of it. I know my site is not open to people from Canada but I know there were a few members that previously said they could not join my site in order to get paid. Well if you are one of those people that didn't get paid the first time around, contact me at theresawinchester@hotmail.com and I'll make sure you get your money.

Thanks to everyone for watching out for the next person..........Terri

[RxQueen]

errrr what happened to justintime?

[tigerterri]

Hi RXQueen,

Where Justin lives he is going to be very busy getting ready for winter and really did not have the time needed to get JustinTime 4 Cash up and running...Since he was going to be quite busy for the next Month he went ahead and sold the site to the owner of The Two Divas, Terri (Theresa Winchester)She has completely changed the site name and everything... You can now find us at www.girlygirlsgpt.com.

I hope this answers your question and hope to see you at the new site!!

Terri L. Sinor/Tigerterri

P.S. Check out Justins other site that he has up and running it is www.cobraptc.info .This site is open to the USA, UK, Canada, and Australia!! See you there!! :)

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

Thanks TigerTerri! Actually the link is http://www.girlygirlgpt.com. If you were already a member of JustinTime4Cash you are still a member now. As I stated in another thread on here if you want your account closed you can let me know and I will do that. No matter how much is in your account, I will still pay you. The site has gone to a Low $1 Daily Cashout if by paypal.

I'm still adding offers but have a few contests going right now and then will go to daily contests. I hope to see you soon........Terri

[butchykid]

just an update moses's is back with a new site called cash bashgpt---

http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=CASHBASHGPT.COM

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

Like we've all discussed before, he claims to have paid all his members but my affiliates and my members know it was me that paid out close to $1k of his debt. I didn't get his affiliate payments after I cut him off. And after offering him money for the site he turns around and sells it to someone else.

Well I just want to make sure everyone knows this and stays away from his new site before he decides he wants to be a professional wrestler, or a cop or who knows what next. He scammed everyone including me once and I want to help make sure he doesn't do it again.

He is Net 30 which means his first payments won't go out until December 30th, and he will not have received any affiliate payments by that time. Just BEWARE and know this could happen again. I've already let a few affiliates know and Shiftcode as well to watch him and be careful.

Just my 2 cents - and I know that's not worth much!.......Terri

[tigerterri]

If everyone warns everyone they have in their downlines it should really make it about impossible to get this new scam site up!!

[Merlin2307]

Does the shiftcode banner at the bottom mean his script is through shiftcode? If so I would think if someone notifies them. The site will get pulled pronto. JMO Merlin

[tigerterri]

I Think Terri From The Two Divas has notified shiftcode of the situation with moses!! Hopefully you are right and they will pull the site pronto when they get wind of this one!!

So glad everyone is on top of this!!

Tigerterri

[crystal32]

sad sad and i just wonder who the monster is selling this crook sites...

[SlyckQuick]

Does anybody do a whois anymore? < the link was already posted in post #114 >

http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=CASHBASHGPT.COM

Yes it's hosted on shiftcode again and yet doesn't surprise me.

[johnmarsh]

yes most site are not true but i think get paid to click on ads is good for home business you don't have to input any of your information.it takes like 5mintues a day, and it just keeps adding up!!!!.the sites pays out(someone on their forums recived over $12,000 from the website. so its good

< do not try to spam the forum >

Advertising Url removed

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

I just wanted to give you all a head's up! Shiftcode just let me know that they shut down Moses's new site officially for good. I think he slipped through the cracks and as soon as they found out they shut his site down. I guess in the future if you see a scam site, let Shiftcode know because they do care and they work hard for us! It's also a great idea to post in here to let everyone know before things go too far. :)

[tigerterri]

Hi there everyone!!

I really had hoped to never have to deal with this man again but he has risen from the dead....Or at least is making an attempt to do so...Hopefully we can stop him in his tracks as we did before!!

Here are a few posts from the chat box in a site he was in today!!

mosesgross2000: ohh i am trying to make a site but need all the help i can get

mosesgross2000: does anyone know how to make a gpt site for free?

mosesgross2000: yes i am trying to open a new site up but trying to find a good script other then shiftcode

My comment is when you actually open a new site through shiftcode and the various "Honest" Owners clue shiftcode into your past site and rip off of members of course you will be looking for another way to start your site then shiftcode!!

OK Guys I have full faith in everyone that AGAIN we can stop this man in his tracks so spread the word That MOSESGROSS2000 CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!!

TTYL,

Tigerterri

[WallyPA]

What happened to justintime4cash? It died after like a week and now it looks like an offerscript site with a picture of Justin Beber.

You'd think Moses would start using a new handle and email. And call himself John(oh wait, he already did that).
It must be real easy to get approved by affiliates.

[TheTwoDivasGPT]

Moses sold the site to Justin who sold it to me and it is now GirlyGirlGPT. Justin has reopened his JustinTime4Cash site using a different script.

[Baskin]

thanks for report.

[Jennifer72]

Thank you for posting this info...he signed up with BankRollBucks recently.