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womanfish

31st March 2003, 10:38

I believe this is the email in question. Needless to say, I took Evelyn's advice and promptly cancelled. She may have the .98 cents in my account to put towards her Valium Prescription Fund.

This was my email to FillMyAccount:

Once again, the links in the email don't all work. I received credit for 3 and the rest said I already visited them. And as far as the paypal payment, I have never, ever been charged to receive a payment, no matter how small. You should read some of the message boards in regards to your new changes to see how people really feel.

Also, the previous webmistress said All payment requests from before your purchase of the site would be taken care of, what happened to that? I requested payment on March 3 and still haven't received anything.

And this was her reply:

Number one - I am the owner of the program. I was not told by the previous owner of the program about all the problems the site had when I took over. AND she was so kind as to keep ALL the funds for the site. SO that you understand the program has -0- funds available for ANYTHING.

Tell me this you and the ones posting to these forums - just where do you suggest the money for all the 1500 requests per day comes from???????????

Since you are so so smart and financially brilliant and full of advice tell me where to get the funds for payouts. And since you know every little thing there is to know about running a GPTR then be so kind as to tell me how to fix the problems within the site itself - like the PTC section which does not workor the email links which also only work sometimes.

FYI - this site will be updated to Cash crusader scripts within 30 days. All the whiners will be deleted and we will start form scratch. Because I have no time for whiners or cheaters and I certainly don't have time to play games with them members who want to cheat the program because of the no minimum payout. I own and operate 6 GPTR's and have a 100% feedback rating with EBAY and over 6 years of experience with the Internet and programs such as this. My other programs are doing well now, each has a little glitch here or there but they are on their feet after only 30 days. Now you can hang out with us and be patient through the changes and be a part of an HONEST program that will earn you a great amount of cash - or

click this link now http://www.fillmyaccount.com

log in and choose "CANCEL MY ACCOUNT" and quit harassing the rest of the members who want to earn.

Evelyn

cyberrat

31st March 2003, 20:38

If people would quite buying these sites from webmasters that can't hack it then maybe there would not be so many failing sites out there.

And how stupid can a webmaster be thinking they can buy a used site and not see that members are paid before they take over or transfer money to the webmaster. Or know that the money will have to come from them to keep their members happy.

sorry i have no interest in being a member of a site where the webmaster does not think ahead and have any concern for the members as soon as she has the site back on line i am leaving she can keep the money and I sure the %&$^#* will not be earning any for her.

and by the way who was the last webmaster of the site and does that person have anymore sites that she may be dumping and running off on

the cash out for fill my account has now went to 10.00 and she is charging .50 to cash out

pirateatv

31st March 2003, 21:20

apparently a few of them from what I have seen today on other boards think they can. I think the whole thing is a joke and she
definately had no business sending that kind of message to an
of her members. I am glad I quit. Maybe if enough people quit
her programs she will realize that you need to treat people with
respect if you want others to respect you.

p.s. nice to see you cyberrat. been a long time.

cyberrat

2nd April 2003, 07:44

well i may get my fingers slaped for posting this but anyone that it pi$$ed about this site needs to see this youll get a good laugh

http://forums.bigbigsavings.com/showthread.php3?threadid=287078

http://forums.bigbigsavings.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=286129

pirateatv good to see you on here now drag over a few others from over there LOL

kglaser

4th April 2003, 22:03

I sincerely hope her membership base goes down to about 3 or 4 people. Then she will see that she can't get away with treating people like that.

travelrn59

5th April 2003, 10:42

There is absolutely no reason for her to be so nasty to ppl. Having other sites, a fact that she has no problem telling us over and over, she ought to be better at dealing with the public. Hope her membership falls to 2 or 3 ppl at all her sites.

Tracey

5th April 2003, 17:04

I'm right with you gals and guys!! I cancelled also and told my referrals what was going on and they have cancelled!!! What a crock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrbike

6th April 2003, 23:47

I too have cancelled my account there, but she won't get the message that way. I think that she needs to be shown the threads on all of the boards about why people are quitting her programs. BTW, I hope she uses my 29 cents towards her valium fund. Unfortunately, I don't believe in nominating her programs for boycott because of her rudeness, but it sure would be nice!

evelynturner

11th April 2003, 00:30

It seems that many members have me confused.

1- I do not own the mrs web directory

2 - part of my agreement with the previous owner is that she was responsible for all payment requests made prior to March 26, 2003 this was made perfectly clear to every members via email. All payment request made through that date will have to be addressed with the previous owner as part of our agreement which I have in WRITING.

3 - my other programs have been paid on time and usually within 12 hours ofthe request. In the last 30 days near $900 has been paid to members.

4 - I have not deleted any accounts. If members actually read the emails they would know that we expected problems with the update of this site to Cash Crusader scripts. I requested members to send me their info so I could credit accounts accordingly. I have only received about 700 total members info emails. I explained to members that I fully expected to lose the database either with the update or the move to the new server. It is your lose if you did not read and submit the information required to credit your accounts.

5 - Yes I have many programs and only 2 of those programs have had serious problems. One is corrected now and back on it's feet. Fill My account is well on it's way to being corrected and back on it's feet as well.

6 - the only members who seem to have a problem with the changes I have made to the site are the ones wholike to cheat the no / low minimum payout sites.

7 - If members knew what it actually costs to run one of these sites maybe they would understand so here is a breakdown for you.

Purchase site - $200
Hosting - $15.00 evey month
Upgrade scripts to Cash Crusader - $99.00
Advertising - $50.00 per month

8 - Now, let's address the topic about payments. Did you know that when you buy a site like this the earned money DOES NOT come with it?
Every penny of the above money was paid out of my pocket - not yours. If I did not care about my members why would I update the scripts to make the site work better for YOU? AND why would I do it right after buying the site???
So, in order to give the site time to buiild the cash needed for ANY payouts I raised payout.

Any good business person knows you cannot take from one business to support another and hope that they both survive. This site had to provide for itself period.

Members who cannot understand that don't need to join anyway. Yes, I have been bitter witha few I do not deny that. I have even been rude.

As a webmaster - is it too much to ask for the members to actually READ the notices sent to them with their paid links??? If they would do this then problems like what you are reading about would be non-existant because they would have followed the instructions and there would be no problem.

For future reference - when you read a complaint like this maybe you should email the webmaster about the one who posted it. I have a back up of every account in the database. Maybe I should post those accounts here and it would clear a few things up.

Or maybe these members would be banned from other programs if that information was revealed - which it has been sent to other webmasters - and that is why they have taken their anger out ina forum. Because they have tried to cheat the program and have been caught.

I removed one user who had created 62 separate account with the same IP address and same physical address. It seems some members do not want a webmaster to be as thorough as I am. Tough.

My programs are going to cater to honest members only. I will research every account in the database and i do not care if it takes me until Christmas of 2010 to do it. Every single account will have been looked by myself or my husband sooner or later.

Because we all know that scripts make errors and do delete honest members - therefore I use the scripts to bring up suspect accounts then I research the account myself before making the decision to delete. I even email the member before the termination of their account to verify what I have found.

Too bad so many people can no longer cheat this program. Many members treted Vicki ( the previous owner) like trash. I understand why she wanted to get rid of the site. Many of the members did nothing but give her grief in one way or another.

Understand this - I am not Vicki and I will not cater to cheaters or whiners. So have a nice day I have ads to send out.
Ta ta
Evelyn

Poncer

11th April 2003, 00:45

Everybody, the old owner said she was going to pay you. It looks like you all got ripped off by the old owner, not Evelynn. The old owner made the promise that he/she never kept.

zfreaky

11th April 2003, 00:49

Well, I am surely glad that the new owner of fillmyaccount posted in this thread!!!

Now I feel less threatened to post my point of view.

She posted a clear email stating that all redemptions requests should be submitted before March 26th date of the switch of ownership or something like that.

I am member of all Evelyn Turner's programs and she pays her members you even have to tell here not to pay you after you reached payout if you want to keep your money in your account cause she will send you the money. So needless to say that you don't have to ask her to show you the money cause she will.

Now all of you who cancelled your account at fillmyaccount should have known better and it is always time to go back cause you are missing on something real big and profitable.

I admit that I have no power whatsoever on your decisions but I trully think that this thread or the "bigbigsavings" cancel party are childish response directed to the wrong person.

You are paid TO READ emails but I certainly know now that most of you don't do their duties as stated in the TOS and agreements of all gptr. Then according to these rules, YOU should have a tag as "cheaters" for any propgrams you don't actually read the mail sent. If your boss caught you not doing your job, he would fire you on the spot then, if you don't do the tasks you agreed upon when signing to a program the webmaster have the right to terminate your account if caught not doing what you are paid for.

And that, friends, is the bottom line. cause I said so

Z

sierra36

11th April 2003, 15:01

Hey just had to add my 2 cents.. I had lots of refs and earnings.. and then one day before the move i might add, i lost all refs except for one.. There must have been alot of cheaters and whinners for that many to be deleted or were they just moved out of the downline??

anyways im quiting the program havent bothered yet havent recieved emails..lol

nickiedog

12th April 2003, 06:59

These are two seperate post that Evelyn made in different places:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...377&f=4&t=41605

"On Tuesday April 8, 2003 you will need to sign up again. Once I see you in the databse the info you sent along witht he back up info I have can be credited to your account. Providing the info is truthful and matched what I have."

http://forums.bigbigsavings.com/showthread...693#post2046693

4 - I have not deleted any accounts. If members actually read the emails they would know that we expected problems with the update of this site to Cash Crusader scripts. I requested members to send me their info so I could credit accounts accordingly. I have only received about 700 total members info emails. I explained to members that I fully expected to lose the database either with the update or the move to the new server. It is your lose if you did not read and submit the information required to credit your accounts.

The email I got on 4/5/03 said:

At that time the entrie databse will be erased. If your info is not submitted by the dealine you WILL NOT receive credit for any losses.

On Tuesday April 8, 2003 you will need to sign up again. Once I see you in the databse the info you sent along witht he back up info I have can be credited to your account. Providing the info is truthful and matched what I have.

Okay being the stupid trusting person I am, sent the information. I also sent a seperate request for information. Never did get information.

On 3/21/2003 my downline was 1-#12 2-#63 3-#12 4-#1 earnings $4.54729.

On 4/5/2003 my downline 1-#13 earnings $0.3819

My gold membership also vanished along the lines.

My account was deleted as she stated in her email.

Resigned up as required. Nothing was given back. Email her about it not surprised, no answer.

I quit the site this morning.

It is obvious that she is not going to do as she said so why bother.

nadiaasoma

12th April 2003, 08:41

If it was me I would want to have the cheating accounts posted!!!

Marian

mmamamel

12th April 2003, 09:27

I don't have an account so she can't delete me and I wouldn't never sign up with a nasty person. I have read that this person is from Canada but has 3 different Mississippi addresses with different phone numbers? The other fourms are posting her addresses. Also have heard from others that you don't loss your data base when you change scripts, I am no expert in this matter but this comes from a couple of webmasters.
My question is if you back up your accounts wouldn't that save the data?
Please correct me if I am wrong. If I am not shouldn't we notify Paypal about this fraud? Egold and stormpay too?

cyberrat

12th April 2003, 12:53

Webmasters do not but used sites
1. YOU make it possible for other webmasters to cheat the members in the first place!!!
2. if you do at least have the brains to see that the old webmaster pays his or her members what is owed to them!!!!!
3. would it not be easier to build your own site rather than buy a use one and then change the scripts.?

my 5 cents LOL

fryskys2001

12th April 2003, 13:10

Originally posted by Poncer
Everybody, the old owner said she was going to pay you. It looks like you all got ripped off by the old owner, not Evelynn. The old owner made the promise that he/she never kept.

I have seen the writen agreement and yes the old owner was suppose to pay members
one thing I will always regret is to have told evelyn this site was for sale for I know for a fact that it is more trouble then it is worth I myself have email the cheater who did nto even bother to answer others well for over 2 week I tried to contact them and ask them ot cancel the account that where to many in one ip but nope so had emial over storage other did not bother and how funny it is I see soem of these poeple here complaining when soem of them are the cheater themself I am not pointing finger to no one you each know who you are
me how I am it is easy I help evelyn when ever needed and she has never cheated me out of a penny before or after I started to help here some of you should read what member email hertoday I was doing my paid emailhow weird and easy it is to bash evelyn but many webmaster email us that they are sick and tired of bad email form member who clame to own the site they are member of one I can name is dustygoldmail their is many owner out their who do their best and theonly one that has no problem are the owner who cheat their owner memebrs because they are has crooket has some of their members

fryskys2001

12th April 2003, 13:14

well if she was form canada that would be great for she want my persian cat and i can not send ti to her because she is form the states and making it impossible for me to do so because of the bylaw on live stiock exchange on the other hand I am form canada and I am one of the person who help her from time and to time some of you should look in the mirror before judging others and ask yourself if you have been fair

evelynturner

12th April 2003, 13:28

As the owner of Fill My Account I want to let the members know we have had some problems with integrating the member tables with the new scripts.
This is why many of you have not been able to log in. I was not aware that there was 2 tables in the databse - one with the info and one for the actual users. This is also why you still received emails but could not log in.
Our programmer thinks he has corrected this situation so those of you who had previously tried to unsubscribe and could not do should be able to do so now.
To do this - go to http://www.FillMyAccount.com
enter your user information in the log in area then choose "CANCEL ACCOUNT" from the drop down box. This should solve the problem.
Thank you for your patience while we have been upgrading this site. There are a few more things that will be added to this site, but these are appearance changes only. I will also be adding a members only auction soon.

Thank you

EVelyn Turner

Oh, to clarify something again - the downline you all are blasting me for is not my auction and not my downline. I am not a member of that program, please check the seller ID at EBay and you will see that it is not me.

yoyo122

12th April 2003, 13:59

Ok let me say this I am not a CHEATER I didn't evan have a downline. I did read the email from EVelyn to one poster it was very rude. Now I don't know about anyone else but if I write a wm wanting to know whats going on I would not like it if I would receive a email like what she wrote.
Asking a question doesn't make you a whiner. For that I closed my account because that email tells me what kind of person I'm dealing with.
Ok Evelyn said the old owner was to pay but we don't know for sure that the old wm didn't leave a fund for evelyn to pay people.
Now by Evelyns word the site had lots of problems she didn't know about. But claims in her email. how she has been around and also has other sites. So I would think a person that has been around and being a wm of differant sites would know how to check out a site before you buy. I would also think a smart business person would make sure money is in place to pay people.

Here is a part of Evelyns email so as she said she has been around amazing she didn't how how to handle business.

****FYI - this site will be updated to Cash crusader scripts within 30 days. All the whiners will be deleted and we will start form scratch. Because I have no time for whiners or cheaters and I certainly don't have time to play games with them members who want to cheat the program because of the no minimum payout. I own and operate 6 GPTR's and have a 100% feedback rating with EBAY and over 6 years of experience with the Internet and programs such as this. My other programs are doing well now, each has a little glitch here or there but they are on their feet after only 30 days. Now you can hang out with us and be patient through the changes and be a part of an HONEST program that will earn you a great amount of cash - or *******

nadiaasoma

12th April 2003, 16:03

It seems to me that Cash Crusader scripts aren't that good as they are advertised, lol.

Marian

spfp1

12th April 2003, 17:50

I was a member of 1st Profit, which is now owned by Evelyn. After the numerous obnoxious emails she sent regarding cheaters
and how she was going to SELL referrals (if you had referrals already you were going to be SOL), all but saying the majority of the member base was full of cheaters, I decided not to re-join her program. She stated that she had to wipe out her entire database because the number of cheaters was too much to handle and she was going to begin from scratch. She also stated she has a backup of the database, but of course in another of her inane posts, stated that she could not convert her database to the Cash Crusader scripts.

Excuse me, but is it not the responsibility of a webmaster to manage the database? Sorry, but when you purchase an existing site, you are purchasing the database too. Clean it up, don't delete it and then lie about the reasons. Every Webmaster out there has cheaters and they clean up their database.

If she can lookup a past account in a backup database she can convert it over....period!!!! I manage mainframe databases for an international financial institution. I have also worked on Oracle, SQL, and DB2. Ever hear of importing data? Well guess what, it's done all the time!!!! If she wants to lie about what you can and cannot do, she can sing that song to someone else. I'm not buying into her crap because I KNOW better.

I am a co-owner of Maniac Mail. I use Cash Crusader scripts. They are easy to use and easy to convert. If you need assistance you have 30 days of Tech Support. I know because John has helped me on several occassions.

If she really cared about her members and the integrity of all her programs, she would not be in the situation she's in now. Keep my earnings Evelyn, you obviously need them more than I do. As for Maniac Mail, we will not allow any of your sites to be advertised. We don't want our members wasting their money on your pathetic programs. We pay quickly, we are responsive to our members, we treat them with respect, and we will protect them from liars and cheats who attempt to hide under the guise of Webmaster.

By the way I am not a cheater nor a whiner, just someone who does not have time for bull!

bulldog10

12th April 2003, 19:00

I've read, with interest, this continuing saga on two other boards. ET has more stories/explanations/excuses than Carter has little liver pills. She pastes the exact same thing on every forum.

I quit her program after I saw her response to polite questions that a member asked. She has continued to call anyone who doesn't agree with what she is doing, "cheaters and whiners".

It's nice to see program owners stand up against "one of their own".. and I use that phrase loosely, with no insult intended. Weeding out the bad owners helps us all. Thank you, spfp1, I don't know you, but I'm proud to be a member of ManiacMail :)

I vote to boycott FMA.

mmamamel

12th April 2003, 19:04

Originally posted by spfp1
I was a member of 1st Profit, which is now owned by Evelyn. After the numerous obnoxious emails she sent regarding cheaters
and how she was going to SELL referrals (if you had referrals already you were going to be SOL), all but saying the majority of the member base was full of cheaters, I decided not to re-join her program. She stated that she had to wipe out her entire database because the number of cheaters was too much to handle and she was going to begin from scratch. She also stated she has a backup of the database, but of course in another of her inane posts, stated that she could not convert her database to the Cash Crusader scripts.

Excuse me, but is it not the responsibility of a webmaster to manage the database? Sorry, but when you purchase an existing site, you are purchasing the database too. Clean it up, don't delete it and then lie about the reasons. Every Webmaster out there has cheaters and they clean up their database.

If she can lookup a past account in a backup database she can convert it over....period!!!! I manage mainframe databases for an international financial institution. I have also worked on Oracle, SQL, and DB2. Ever hear of importing data? Well guess what, it's done all the time!!!! If she wants to lie about what you can and cannot do, she can sing that song to someone else. I'm not buying into her crap because I KNOW better.

I am a co-owner of Maniac Mail. I use Cash Crusader scripts. They are easy to use and easy to convert. If you need assistance you have 30 days of Tech Support. I know because John has helped me on several occassions.

If she really cared about her members and the integrity of all her programs, she would not be in the situation she's in now. Keep my earnings Evelyn, you obviously need them more than I do. As for Maniac Mail, we will not allow any of your sites to be advertised. We don't want our members wasting their money on your pathetic programs. We pay quickly, we are responsive to our members, we treat them with respect, and we will protect them from liars and cheats who attempt to hide under the guise of Webmaster.

By the way I am not a cheater nor a whiner, just someone who does not have time for bull!

I gotta agree. I wish all the webmasters wouldn't accept ads for these webmasters who are cheaters and whinners they should warn there members. Maniac Mail and Email-Dollar have my respect always.

nickiedog

12th April 2003, 20:28

Fill my account:

After I quit this program, I was restored without permission, but it was not restored with the referals I had, the money or the gold membership. She will not answer any request about information that is not in the TOS or anywhere else on the site.

I have had to quit this program a second time.

evelynturner

13th April 2003, 03:09

My reply can be found in the thread Evelyn webmaster of fillmyaccount and others. I think you will find it of interest.

fryskys2001

13th April 2003, 07:40

I will aggree with many of you her approche was not one of the best but before she even started to send any email she contacted each person with mulitple account and none responded by at least going to cancel the extra account yes she should have said this email is not ment for every but only the one that knows themself has cheaters
yes she should have use more tack but after she block the user with multiple accoutn she started to even receive phisical treat on her and her family. look I was even ban from getpaidforum because of trying to smooth thing they beleive they know it all then why have they not check my ip and compare it to hers they beleive I am her me
I am in canada some of the member her can tell you it is true I am french canadian born here while she is a Mississippi american but still instead of finding out where and who I am they just simply jump to conclusion did they act any better then she did by banning me from getpaidforum their is a proverbe thta says let not judge if in return you don't want to be judge
I will not judge them because in my hearth and soul I find then rediculous and childish, they think they got their revenge on here but instead they kid me out think it is her and then they think they are so good well I am sorry if I have offended some of you by saying yes there is cheater but with both Fillmyaccount and 1stprofit she did send email asking the poeple that wanted to remain with the program to send their full info and all their earning asking them to wait after she would put back your earning once the site was relaunch and you would have sign back up many have not done that with either site and now are yelling how unfair she is
some say she should not have lost any data she went from one kind of scrip to a totaly diferent kind of script of course the data do not match and each and every oen accoutn will have ot be put back by hand does any of you have any ideal how long it will take but weird thing she is going to do it for each member who stayed and fought the bad weather so now it is up to you to stay or leave has they say each and everyone of the members are free to act has they wish

fryskys2001

13th April 2003, 17:14

how many of you were members of the site that were hack before christmas
how many of you have lost earning , yet I do not see any of these wbmaster being bash why did those webmaster not have a cron and set it to do a back up every 24 hours like that our earning would have been save and safe I have lost plenty because of those hacking should I say these wm have put this money in there pocket
was the hacking true or invented just so they could deal with later payout think about it
us at egoldfroum we were hack weird thing is we had lost most of our number of post be darn we are paid to post so of course members complain till 48 hours later the owner manage to restore the back up putting thing back the way it should so why was the hack site not restore all of them because all of the wm who own those site did not think it would ever happen to them big deal they are human they made a MISTAKE do you judge them for this
I bet now they do regular back up I am sure many other wm have learn a good lesson threw all these hacking and take the time to back up their site every day I sure hope so for they are guardian of my earning
note very wm online will deal with problem the same way every day I get emial from wm complaining or rude nasty email form member yet only evelyn is listed here
At one point it was paidmailinc well according to the members she was the devil incarnated she to told the members if the rude nasty email did not stop she would deleted the database and close the site well she kept on going look at her site not she has over 8000 members all active and she is doing good hey
she did make mistake and we all forgive her

this is my question evelyn has promis to restore all earning and downline why not give her a chance give her the benifit of the dought liek you would any other webmaster tiem will tell

yoyo122

13th April 2003, 18:02

Because she is still making rude comments on here post. She doesn't know a thing about running a business and how to treat people. She called people cheaters that wasn't . She also said don't ask because then you are a whiner and will be deleted. That is what people are pi**ed about.
Yes all p[laces have cheaters the wm have to deal with them but don't acuse other people of this.

fryskys2001

13th April 2003, 19:58

you want to talk about mistake at getpaidforum i was ban because members taught i was her and her me the person who ban me did nto even take tiem to check ip I did nto go and yell I just thank them fo rbeing so nice to me poeple do not react to situation the same i am not making excuse for anyone what I am saying time will heal old wound and make thing better
I am sure in time thing will settle down once she has install verify on eahc site no one wil be able to cheat for the program recognize even ip me i never had to complain about her my ad were always done inside of 48hours it is more then i can say from other site who make you wait week and by them the newly launch site is not longer new making you miss your chance to a good downline
also when cashing out my money was always inmy accoutn inside 24 hours how many site does this not to many has far has i know
from the site that where hack last winter they only one who restore my earning the proper way and my downline was dustygoldmail all other place was aold update of 4 to 6 week old so yes we are human but some members did put her threw the ringer wya before she started to send emialot all members she and I took the tiem to send meial to the cheater and guess what happen sh ewas call ewvery name in the book not nice one to soem for over 2 week were over storage what is the policy of most site about bouncing mail delete after so many mail well some of the cheater I ried tro reach for 2 week and nothing emailalways came back so she block their accoutn not deleted but block well 3 week come and there they are giving her all the name impossible and possible ot call her some of them are even members here and at getpaidmail and are bashing her like heck see it is easy to say thing when the fact is they are the one in the wrong

see I just hope soem of the wm that are bashing her read my post and see themself in it maybe they will think twice

garwain

14th April 2003, 14:49

I'm kind of annoyed at how this has been run, but since I have got my account back with the money that was in it, I'm going to continue, and give this new owner a chance.

As a professional webmaster AND DBA, I can understand that between scripts, the tables might not match, but if she has a REAL programmer helping out with the conversion, then he/she should be able to come up with a set a queries that would transform the data as necessary, or modify the database/scripts to allow nulls if info is not available at all.

yoyo122

14th April 2003, 15:03

As a professional webmaster AND DBA, I can understand that between scripts, the tables might not match, but if she has a REAL programmer helping out with the conversion, then he/she should be able to come up with a set a queries that would transform the data as necessary, or modify the database/scripts to allow nulls if info is not available at all.

Well she said she has 7 programs so you would think that she should of known what she was getting into.

Nothing wrong with sticking with any program. I'm a member at programs other people don't care about .

It was her email that really ticked off people. Now she is sayinG I have 6 kids and run 7 programs and was stressed. Sorry the only thing I can give her is cheese to go with HER WHINE.

fryskys2001

14th April 2003, 21:45

I know her personaly yes she has seven program but she been managing her older program clickbuxx at the most 2 month and both the other one after the other just about one month ago and the person helping her is cynthia and evelyn is not her only customer so she does help her when she can
the worst of her program had one hell of a bug in it I will not mention the name of the program because the builder might even be member of these forum but he sellmany of them to many and he put a script in his cron that when poeple sign on for membership and them do there profil it was feeding him all of our info
why I know this because when she took this program to convert it the page were all screw up poeple could not sign back in so I had a good friend of mine who himself build script and sell themwith domain and server look at her program she could not even change her administration password it was lock in the script it took my friend help to rearange the administration data and also he found that loop hole thta was sending our info it could nto be remove so they made to feed this person a bunch of none sense
also ask yourself if fillmyaccoutn was so good bringing in money why did the owner sell it ever taught if the site work great and was not giving problem the owner would have kept it they had many 1000 of so call active members
anotherthing it seam that when you sell a site the previous owner should be the one paying the member their earning after all the ad money was paid to them and not to the buyer
that person shoudl have transfer evelyn a site free of death all member should have been paid and when evelyn took over they could have start from scratch it would have simplified the life of every one involve
poeple say they were not paid their earning form pas cashout well I am not surprise for the email of the owner was over storage for the longest time I know for evelyn had askme to contact the person for site concern this is also a weird behavior from a previous owner who I think should help in the transition of the site after all they were the one administrating it and knows the in and out of it
it is easy ot jump to conclusion when poeple do not know about the frustation of not having contact with the person concern

yoyo122

14th April 2003, 22:34

It still does not excuse her for being so RUDE! I didn't have to jump to anything. she out and out called people cheaters and whiners. People that was not!
There is a poster that did everything she said to do here is a part of what she posted.

****I continued clicking when there were points to click. Then we were told we had to re-sign up by the 7th of April. I tried....and tried...and tried again. There were "warning errors" on the page. I tried the next day, and the next. Finally on Thursday I was able to re-sign up. With only a measly $0.22 in my account. (Don't know where the rest of the money went to since they were supposed to be on backup or something.) Ok...then I remembered in her email if we signed up on April 7th we would get a bonus of $2.00 for signing up. I thought that's GREAT! It will make up for losing the other money in the takeover.

Well, I am still waiting to hear from her on when the $2.00 bonus will be put in our accounts. I wonder if it was promised to us only because she might have known it would be impossible to re-sign up on the 7th of April. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and give her a chance. Now I am not so sure she is being totally honest with us. With her reputation, I wouldn't doubt it if she deletes my account totally.*****

So now you tell me. She is telling people they would get 2.00 one way but in a nother email she said there is no mony to be paid

Now I'm not standing in judgement of anyone . Do you want to see the copy of the email she sent out about giving people 2.00?
LIKE I SAID BEFORE BEING THE SAVVY BUSINESS PERSON SHE CLAIMS SHE IS SOME THING SHE WOULD KNOW I MEAN 7 SITES SHE HAS AND RUNS!
People sell out for many reason who knows why the old owner sold. We don't know if money wasn't left for the new owner to pay people. Seems like a smart business person who has been aroung for 6 years I think she said would know that something should of been in place. She claims she has no money well I don't know a person could start a business with out money . IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.
At any rate nothing gives you and reason to send out a nasty email and whining and saying now I have 6 kids and 7 sites to run Im stressed. ALL SHE DID WAS JUST LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHEN SHE GETS STRESSED THATS HOW SHE HANDLES HER BUSINESS. I don;t know about you but I want people to keep comming back not run them off. And this is what her rudness from her stress has caused.

Poncer

14th April 2003, 22:46

Well, well, well. We now know that this woman is a liar completely. Read lady_knight's last post in this thread about her contact with one of the person Evelyn claimed to be in contact with.

http://www.jaydillar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13681&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

Now we may need DAzhiredgun for his connections to check this out since lady_knight was asked to contact Mississippi's General Attorny.

fryskys2001

14th April 2003, 22:59

well I will tell you this when members want respect they should give respect sh edid nto start it first members did I know for I was the one who gave answer to many you say she was rude and nasty in comparisson of some email send to her from both site

I am asking you this do you support child porn well soem former members of 1st profit had bought porn advertising and gave her rudse and nasty email because they has paid the old owner for them and had not receive them
when she told them no way no more porn would be advertise some did not like it when you have children in the house pron is not the best to see on a monitor

well some of the most complaning poeple in this site and GTPF are some of these poeple I will not stoop to their level and tell everyone who they are but I am surte when they read this post they will know who they are so it is up to everyone either they want to weather this hard tiem or just do like the geese and fly south this is the chice of each and everyone of us
stop sending her email complaining and let her put back each memebrs data one by one she will do it she does nto need memebrs money to live and not anyone earning so lets give time to work this out you might be surprise at the end also look tonight she lost like 4 hours because the server burn wil anyone say anyhting about this ot cynthia I do not think so of course not for she was nto the one olding yoru income does anyone ever give the benifit of the daught in this dumb world of paid mail it seam ot me every one are judge and jury and if the out come does not meet your goal then everyone are ready to crucify WM
I have given the benifite of the daught to many WM and got screw but I also got some that paid off in pluriel

yoyo122

14th April 2003, 23:13

WOW Poncer I wonder what they will say now.about the link you have here. lol.
Friends till the end thats the way it should be. You stick with your friend.
As far as porn thats not what this is about.
Let me turn this around. See if you get it this way.
If you walk into a business and the people was very rude what would you do? Keep going back I don't really think so. Her business is no differant.
I know that no mater what I say or you say we will not see eye to eye on this as well as many other people.

lady_knight

14th April 2003, 23:52

hello sorry this is my first post here but quite frankly i am very angry. the first thread pertains to the complaints folder at getpaidforum. she has repeatedly tripped herself up in ths thread. now i posted a rebuttle to her throughout the thread and one concerned my contacting legislators. now this was on page 13 where i mentioned contacting some legislative officials. on page 16 is where she really started to unravel. i am not one to look aside when someone start touting there familial power or their powerful connections. i took her seriously and on page 17 you will see she was proven wrong. i did contact the woman named marie rader in kentucky. i very simply ecplained to her what was going on. she basically says that ms. turner is not connectd to her in the way that she inferred. she was quite unimpressed by ms. turner dragging her name into it at all. i of course thanked her for her time and apologized for having to make a call to her and she was quick to suggest that i contact the attorney general of the state of mississippi. i also note that another member contacted the state of texas attorney general's office in this thread on the same page.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=41447&st=320

next i wish i had kept all the meails from this woman so that i could pinpoint the exact date of her emails. but i ask this question? what right does she have to sell any referrals on ebay when she can't even sort out the database at all. i went to ebay and noted all the referrals that were being sold. i am not too impressed with her selling referrals like this. she claims they are third party referrals which i have no idea what she means by that statement. i had a downline of over 300 persons and it dropped to one and then none. now how can she justify selling referrals when she admits in her own emails she isn't sure what's going on with the databases. another complaint i have on selling referrals is she is taking those referrals away from honest members when she labels someone a cheater and takes them from the program it seems to me she is taking them out and selling them. now granted some people are cheaters on programs but if they happened to sign up under and honest member then she has taken from that persons downline as well. if i am wrong in thinking on this please feel free to p.m. or email me.

now for my last and particularly most unsettling complaint. i have been doing internet programs since way back when alladvantage paid people. i have been a member of many defunct programs and some that are still going. i have never in my life run into a program owner that is as nasty as this woman has been to people. she is without a doubt the worst public relations person i have ever met and i have known many. when one owns a business they need people skills. you can not treat people like crap and call them cheaters. i take great exception to the fact that she said that those who whine must be cheaters. i actually defended her in the beginning. i tried to get people to give her a chance. i repeatedly emailed her at webmaster@fillmyaccount.com asking her first to come to gpf to make her points to members to help us understand the problems. then i emailed her asking for help with what exactly the woman needed for the database clean up. i have the screenshots of the old account and of the new account. she replied back after i demanded in big bold type in red lettering that she answer my qeustions about the email. this was after numerous times asking her throughout differnet threads in a couple forums. her reply to me was that was the wrong account. she stated an email she sent out stated that memebrs should email webmistress@fillmyaccount.com and the other was her yahoo email. i relpied back to her showing her the email where she signed under her name webmaster@fillmyaccount.com. i deal with many business and professionals outside the gptr industry as i am an advocate for people with disabilities. in all the email i ever get from any of them the proper practice is to sign with the email you want any correspondence recieved at. that isn't just done here in the u.s.a. but it is internationally done. all she seems to do make members angry. i was the eleventh member to join the program and was able to get a small amount of first level referrals. i had fourteen members on level one. after her first spiteful and nasty email i lost all but 2 on that level alone. so she has completely unacceptable people skills. the following thread is where i finally inquired where she could see it and perhaps catch her attention.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=41605&st=40

in conclusion i would like to add that when i called my attroney general's office here in n.y.s. i was laughed at by what had happened. why did they laugh? they called all the gptr industry a huge scam and that anyone with brains should stay away from the whole industry. i of course spoke up and defended the excellent programs out there. if we continue to allow programs to run over the top of people like this we should be ashamed of ourselves as this industry doesn't need anymore kicks in the teeth with the inernet economy becoming more shaky. i urge all webmasters to band together to put the bad gptr programs out of business.

thank you sincerely for putting up with my longwinded post but i had to say what i thought was necessary.

spfp1

15th April 2003, 00:27

I have officially submitted a request to boycott 1st Profit. Tom and I will not promote nor permit the promotion of any of her websites through Maniac Mail.

Evelyn has been irresponsible to her membership and in her inane babbling of the issues at hand. She has made rude and offensive comments both in the emails sent to 1st Profit members when she accepted ownership of the program, and in her postings in all the forums. Her inconsistency in stating whether she has a database that is salvageable or not (first she doesn't have one then she does), her selling of referrals on ebay for a database that supposedly was deleted are just a few of the MANY reasons to not believe a single word that comes out of her mouth. She would have everyone believe that she has been "bashed" and unjustly accused of any wrong-doing. I believe otherwise.

Lisa

evelynturner

15th April 2003, 07:21

Seems many of you doubt that I am related to who I claim to be. Well trace this in a family tree program -

My father - Clyde Dale Hilliard - born in Hobart Oklahoma is 1st Cousins with

Harriet Nelson - maiden name Hilliard!

You cannot change that nor can you lie about it. Harriet was also born there, as well as my many aunts and uncles.

My brother in the attorney general's office in Texas - name-
George Delmar Hilliard Courtney.

He is actually a half brother - but a brother is still a brother.

So, since you have nothing better to do with your time that research ways to slam me - find a way to dispute these facts. I doubt seriously that you can find a LEGITIMATE way since a birth cerificate does not lie.

Have fun eating your words....

evelynturner

15th April 2003, 07:31

Since you doubt my family lineage I have attached my family tree created by my grandmother and aunt to Harriet -

This tree was carried on by my mother then by me

have fun tracing each and every person there!!!!

the file is a winzip file and I named it sarcastically for you!!!

yoyo122

15th April 2003, 07:42

OH WAIT YOU FORGOT TO MENTION marie rader in kentucky
or what about the post where i posted about an email from someone asking what happen to her account she did as told or the 2.00 you said you would pay?
It really don't matter who your family is still doesn't give you any right to be rude!
Oh I forgot you have 6 kids and 7 programs and are stressed. So that gives you every right to be rude!

nadiaasoma

15th April 2003, 08:44

They must be verry proud of her, lol.

lady_knight

15th April 2003, 10:33

the above posts evelyn are why no one trusts you and are laughing at you. we present the issues of what you have done to us and you evade the answers byt once again throwing familial b.s. which has nothing to do with you changing your story several times about databases and selling referrals off. i looked at your ebay account and you started selling refs off on march 31st. and a post over on jof by one of your close associates shows you were finalizing the sale of fillmyaccount on march 25th. now you didn't even have the site long enough to really find out what the truth was with all the problems of the site. i believe the first email with your snotty attitude followed shortly after when you got angry with people demanding payments that were due. now if vicki scammed you out of the money for the site that is not the members problem and you took it out on everyone. if you buy a business unfortunately you buy all good and bad with the business too. instead of berating memebrs you should have stepped back and figured out solutions to the problems. you also should have held off on selling any referrals as you had stated that vicki had been siphening referrals off the gold membership rotation. knowing that you should have immediately took any that were gained by her that way and ditributed them to all gold members. i will not go into too many details of the account you use to sell these referrals with on ebay but once again poor business practice. you are using the same account to purchase personal items for yourself. i sincerely don't think that your members really need bondage tape or the outfits you purchased or the jewelry you have won. anyone with any business sense knows you do not mix business and personal accounts. wonder what kind of questions the i.r.s. will end up having about the way money's were spent. i knew a local merchant who did a similar thing from his store accounts and ended up i depp doodoo with the i.r.s. so keep on throwing your little tirades cause you keep showing yourself for who you are.

nadiaasoma

15th April 2003, 11:12

Sorry Lady-knight, I know you are verry angry.
I once did the same work as you are doing now, nice to meet you.
Seeing her bragging about her family makes me laugh and wondering
about the legal system in Amerika but I'm sure it's not that corrupt.

keep up the good work

Marian

lexie

15th April 2003, 11:27

I don't know what your genelogy really has to do with anything other than you maybe thought it might be intimidating and cause those members to feel hopeless.

I'm great granddaughter x 25 of King Harold de Norwood . That and a buck 50 will get me a cup of coffee .

The problem is how ppl ( your members ) are being treated . One could be a lowely swamp rat and ppl would love that rat if s/he treated others kindly and respectfully .

evelynturner

15th April 2003, 11:42

Every one has been grumbling because I copy and paste - well ruch over to get paid forum for the reply to your latest bashing I think you will be very surprised.

http://www.getpaidforum.com

lady_knight

15th April 2003, 13:18

go ahead and continue to make threats to sue people. you say put your money where your mouth is. i say go ahead and sue me because any judge that looks at the case will be asking the same questions of you that we all have asked. oh and another thing too. you had better make sure you have completely removed all the records of the members who have quit your program. when we resign from a program it is your legal responsibility to wipe out any and all contact data you have for those members. so if you obtain your information on us and use it in a court action i will sue you for breech of privavcy.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=41447&st=340

oh and note that i believe it was in the news thread there as well where you posted a supposed cheaters isp address and info. from there account which is a direct violation of that persons right to privacy. you were asking us the members of that forum to be the judge if that person was a cheater. the post i am speaking of is on page 3 here:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=41605&st=40

BLACKFROG9

15th April 2003, 14:12

I have followed this the entire way...and no matter which
forum I'm reading ....It's always the same questions from
members and always the same remarks from Evelyn.

Evelyn why don't you just answer the questions???
Just once???

I know you can't possibly explain yourself to anyone's
satisfaction,at this point we have pretty much figured it
out by ourselves....I mean it dosen't take a genius to know
that when you sells referrals to a program you don't even
own yet...and just as soon as you do take possession,the
database becomes unrecoverable...

I don't think so....

Personally I don't care "who" you're related to....
We "all" have family skeletons,only difference...ours
isn't making a fool of themselves on the net!

And spfp1.....I am not a member of Maniac Mail...but I
might be by dark....It will take the responsible webmasters
and webmistresses to to rid programs of owners like this one.

We have to support the one trying to clean up the net from
these bad program runners....JMHO.....

Sorry if I've pissed you off once again Evelyn...but I can only
read this junk so much....Then I have to have my say...

mmamamel

15th April 2003, 15:20

What does this have to do with her family? I thought it was her cheating the members and all around RUDE Behavior!

yoyo122

15th April 2003, 16:26

She started throwing out names of people thats how I think it started.

Poncer

15th April 2003, 23:21

Originally posted by evelynturner
Seems many of you doubt that I am related to who I claim to be. Well trace this in a family tree program -

My father - Clyde Dale Hilliard - born in Hobart Oklahoma is 1st Cousins with

Harriet Nelson - maiden name Hilliard!

You cannot change that nor can you lie about it. Harriet was also born there, as well as my many aunts and uncles.

My brother in the attorney general's office in Texas - name-
George Delmar Hilliard Courtney.

He is actually a half brother - but a brother is still a brother.

So, since you have nothing better to do with your time that research ways to slam me - find a way to dispute these facts. I doubt seriously that you can find a LEGITIMATE way since a birth cerificate does not lie.

Have fun eating your words....

You know that this sounds very funny? Clyde Dale? Throw in an s and you get a type of a horse call Clydesdale, and that Harriet Nelson sounds like the tv show charcter or the mother of Ricky Nelson. Seems like you are making up names all along as your family member.

travelrn59

16th April 2003, 00:46

OK I see now, first it was the Burgess/Robinson clan - when that didn't pan out, its the Hilliard family. Doesn't matter who your family members are or are not - you are still rude and unprofessional in your dealings with your customers. You put accounts back after they were deleted without the permission of the owners of those accounts, I have deleted my account twice. And now the database has been changed so that members cannot delete the accounts that you restored because they have a negative balance. Can you please explain how that happened or are you just inflating your member count to sell all those ads and referrals on Ebay?? And please don't bring up your relatives in any answer because who you are related to is irrelevant to this discussion.

fryskys2001

16th April 2003, 11:16

since all members are so incline in seeing bad in everyoen I am going to edit this post and say no I am not implying that they are scaming anyone they are all good WM ironside I have been members of his site for so long I do not even remember when the point of posting this was to show that not only evelyn sell referal or downline but other site to if selling referal and downline make evelyn a scammer my point was why not other WM that do it and thisoen was just a exemple it could have been any other site it just happen to be a link I open in a email you all have started this junk not me meI only post in a person who give the benifit of the dought to any WM who tell me he is having trouble for thing out of our controle do happen

look guess they are scaming their gold members to just like ironside44 and evelyn and many other site who sell referal and downline

ONE TREASURE-MAIL.COM ACTIVE DOWNLINE MEMBER + ONE CENT SOLO PAID EMAIL TO ALL MEMBERS OF TREASURE-MAIl.COM (2500 MEMBERS)
One cent Paid email to all members
PLUS!
1 HUGE downline!
This Member has 678 referrals and growing
Tier 1: (51 Total Referrals)
Tier 2: (150 Total Referrals)
Tier 3: (173 Total Referrals)
Tier 4: (304 Total Referrals)
Tier 5 : (can not add to your downline )

Total referrals :678

THESE MEMBERS ARE ALL ACTIVE AND COULD EARN YOU A GREAT INCOME

THEY WILL BE PLACED IN YOUR DOWNLINE AT TREASURE-MAIL.COM

Paid Email-The Most Cost Effective Advertising

Super High Clickthru Rate- Guaranteed Visitors

Website:Treasure-Mail.com

lexie

16th April 2003, 12:23

I don't see anyone in here complaining they lost all their referrals in those programs and then find referrals in these programs for sell on ebay either .

mmamamel

16th April 2003, 12:36

what does that have to do with this thread? This is about fillmyaccount...Start a new tread if you want but lets stay on track with the SUBJECT!

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 12:37

if you have a complaint about another company start a new thread. dargging other companies into a complaint about fillmyaccount is really going to far. you have just effectively called that site a scam which it is not as i am a member of treasure-mail . i recently went gold after being a member for a few months. i have in the two weeks i ahve been a member already recieved two members from the gold membership. i also have been paid within an hour of requesting payment from them as well. my ads went out without a hitch and were very effective. do stick to the topic at hand which is fillmyaccount.

mmamamel

16th April 2003, 12:40

Someone sure is putting in a lot of time to defend a site that they don't own. Why is that? Shouldn't the owner be the one defending there own site and how do you know so much about fillmyaccount, if it isn't your site...

nadiaasoma

16th April 2003, 13:26

Originally posted by fryskys2001
look guess is is scaming his members to just like ironside44 and evelyn
ONE TREASURE-MAIL.COM ACTIVE DOWNLINE MEMBER + ONE CENT SOLO PAID EMAIL TO ALL MEMBERS OF TREASURE-MAIl.COM (2500 MEMBERS)
One cent Paid email to all members
PLUS!
1 HUGE downline!
This Member has 678 referrals and growing
Tier 1: (51 Total Referrals)
Tier 2: (150 Total Referrals)
Tier 3: (173 Total Referrals)
Tier 4: (304 Total Referrals)
Tier 5 : (can not add to your downline )

Total referrals :678

THESE MEMBERS ARE ALL ACTIVE AND COULD EARN YOU A GREAT INCOME

THEY WILL BE PLACED IN YOUR DOWNLINE AT TREASURE-MAIL.COM

Paid Email-The Most Cost Effective Advertising

Super High Clickthru Rate- Guaranteed Visitors

Website:Treasure-Mail.com

How old are you fry?

I don't think that you are old enough to be a member of a gptr-program.

Are you calling Ironsides a scammer here at gpt-boycot?

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 13:36

December 14, 1953 for fryskys2001

evelynturner

16th April 2003, 16:03

Maybe because she is an honest person and I have asked her to assist me in some matters - such as answering emails - contacting suspected cheaters and so forth.

But why should you care? Like you said it is my site and I should be able to recruit help anywhere I so chose to do so.

Why did I buy a used site - because I felt like.

Now, many other webmasters have assistants why don't you go bash them for a while for having an assistant or better yet bash their assistant too. She is doing what she feels is right.

Too bad you don't go to Jay's and read the posts their - many of you have seriously missed the boat!!!!

fryskys2001

16th April 2003, 16:08

Originally posted by lady_knight
December 14, 1953 for fryskys2001

thank lady knight save me to answer this but it is ok first of all I have not express myself the right way in my other post so I wil say thank again lady knight for having pointed this ot me so I have edited my post to reflect my taught just hope it is express the right way I am not of english speaking origine and at time I have hard time ot put down my taught

if my earlier post sounded like i was acussing any site of scamimg or cheating or stealing from any member this was not my intention my intention where to make a comparisson

and for evelyn selling referal yes it look bad but she is not selling any of your referal but the downline of the cheater who had already been deleted before the change of database not others my referal in her site goes up and down also
members do quite or get deleted for being not active I ask her and she reply and tell me why it happen i have lost referal in many site during script change but before acusing the WM of any wrong doing I always gave him a good period of time to fixe it before asking question for more the WM is swomp by email less he has time to work in the site

yoyo122

16th April 2003, 16:16

evelynturner
You are the only one that has missed the boat!
fryskys2001 she has had time to rake care of things. And if she is such an honest person why would she have so many people upset with her. Oh ya I forgot because they are all whiners and cheaters.
I'm sure she did have cheaters. But the biggest cheater and whiner is Evelyn. But oh I forgot again she can do this because she has 6 kids 7 programs.

evelynturner

16th April 2003, 16:24

Fryskys2001 and I are NOT the same person when will you get that through your THICK heads.

It has all ready been proven by getpaidforum and JAY's that she is in CANADA and I am NOT!!!!!

Talk about BLIND!!!!

How do you think she feels when you bash her thinking she is me?????

So who missed the boat?????

Honey I am on it sailing far far away from YOU!!!

nadiaasoma

16th April 2003, 16:34

You are using her Evelyn and she gets banned for it.
Don't you care about that?

Marian

yoyo122

16th April 2003, 16:40

Careful now you know how you get when you are stressed. You start calling people whiners and cheaters

nadiaasoma

16th April 2003, 17:10

That's cheap Yoyo

yoyo122

16th April 2003, 17:17

No thats the truth she has evan said that her self just repeating the reason why she said that about people she was stress had 6 kids and 7 programs.

nadiaasoma

16th April 2003, 17:26

Yea but you keep on saying it over and over again and it ads nothing to the discussion

evelynturner

16th April 2003, 17:31

What would you know about using someone other than how you are trying to use me??

FYI - she volunteered to help and is being PAID for that help.

The only "whiners" I see are those who continuously post the same sad song over and ober again.

You whine because you can't log in - so I fix it now you can - so you whine about that too!!

You say I can't stay with a topic?? Look at the posts - I think I have been pretty consistent here. I address one issue and you start whining about another one.

Now you are whining saying I am using FRYSKYS2001.

Well, she is a grown adult and can tell you herself how she feels about it.

She got banned because she posted a quote from me and someone thought she was me.

I don't know why I even bother to answer this dribble because you will just find something else to whine about.

yoyo122

16th April 2003, 17:36

oh well thats what this is all about. That is how this did get started. you can past my post. don't matter to me either way.

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 18:52

i do believe she is not you and i have never attacked anyone defending you evelyn. when she posted what she did i indeed got ahold of her on jof and said she might want to clarify her earlier post as it made it look as if she was in fact accusing others of the scam thing. i know she speaks in french as her native language and it's easy to misinterpret what she says. i speak to many people who's first language is not english. fryskys2001 i appreciate you thanking me and i am sorry if you got hurt by being the messenger. as for consistency evelyn i asked on the gpf forum where you were blasting us for being whiners and cheaters many times for an answer why you hadn't answwered my emails. you were so busy arguing with people about everything that you missed that boat entirely as well. when a person has to post in the boldest, biggest font type possible in all red lettering to get your attention well what more can a person do? i actually quit because of that and the fact that you called everyone that was whining cheaters.

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 20:07

this from treasure-email webmaster. i had alerted him to the post here about his program. he has asked me to post this for him. i will also email him back explaining that fryskys 2001 has refned her post about what she meant.

From: "Webmaster@Treasure-Mail.com" <webmaster@treasure-mail.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book
To: "liz" <lady_needs_knight@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: THE LINK TO THE SCAM CLAIM/Thank You
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:32:54 -0400

Hi
Thanks for your information
Let me point out that

My program have no complaints so far
over 300 members have been payout/total payouts over $920.00
Gold member over 80
Gold member always have referrals added/random signup URL
downlines for sale have on upline/they joined my program just launched
The ebay winner /referrals buyer always give me a praise that with
reliable and prompt service and said love my program
They almost earn $5 for 5-10 days (from their huge referrals and
themself)
If I am a scammer. they will complaint me and never place any bid on
my auction items again(So everyone/member have to select the programs
to join and auction to bid)
Or you can post this for me as I do not like post any message at
GPTboycott because too many popup and loading slowly

Greeting
Webmaster

spfp1

16th April 2003, 20:14

Evelyn,

You have sunk to an all new low!!! Your deceptive machinations have failed and your next tact is to insult other webmasters and honest programs??? There is absolutely no comparison between you and Ironsides as webmasters. He is honest, has loads of integrity, and actually cares about his membership.

Go ahead and employ your friends and the unsuspecting into spinning your fairytale of how the world wronged you.

NOW GET THIS!!!!

No one is impressed about your family name, or your relatives in politics, or any other claims made by you as to status and connections. Members of your programs care about how you run them, whether or not your treat them with respect, and whether or not they will get paid.

The only thing that could possibly change people's opinons of you is for you to actually live up to promises and run a CLEAN, HONEST program!!!

Why don't you go and start to live up to the obligations you incurred when you became a program owner and stop posting assinine dribble. Send out some mail or something and take care of business!!!

evelynturner

16th April 2003, 21:54

BUT YOU ARE too thickheaded to see it. Check the IP address if you are so smart CHECK IT AND POST THEM BOTH HERE I DARE YOU or are you AFRAID that what Fryskys2001 and I say is correct - too scared to be called a liar aren't you???

Because you know I am not FRYSKYS2001 but you can't find anything else to bash me about huh???????

Read this lady knight and others who quit --

When I emailed the members I think I plainly stated in order for them to receive credit for lost earnings and referrals they would need to be a MEMBER. Theere fore - for those who QUIT then YOU terminated the agreement prematurely and thus forfeited any said earnings as par the terms and conditions of membership which are pretty standard in ALL GPTR programs.

When I searched the databse to make YOUR credit after having seen you screen shot naturally I could not find you - you knew that. So now that you have VOLUNTARILY quit and VOLUNTARILY forfeited all earnings you are calling ME a thief

YOU made the choice to terminate your account - you made the choice to forfeit those earnings and YOU made the choice to lose the referrals. As I stated earlier today - over 60 members were completed today in FIll mY Account with all lost earnings and referrals completely RESTORED with the $2 bonus as well.

You jumped the gun and you lost because if you have learned one thing about me by now - it is that I am a woman of my word. So while I am crediting all the members accounts as I promised I would do - you sit here bawling like a baby because YOU chose to terminate your account prematurely and have no one to blame but yourself.

So go cry one someone else's shoulder you have blasted me and blonde owl enough. We have many loyal members who did decide to stay that are slowly getting the credit they patiently waited for. So while you are here trying to convice everyone I steal from the members - I will be spending the money made on EBay by placing it in member accounts. Too bad you think that is a bad thing - you could have had some in your account as well - but since you account is non-existant there can be no credit to it....

So who burned who here - looks like YOU burned YOURSELF....

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 22:23

i quit on april 12th 2003 at 3:44p.m. e.s.t. u.s.a.

now on jof you:

Just to let you know - I have searched both the new and the back up database and can find no lady knight there - so how can I respond to an account that did not exist?

now i ask you this if i quit the program after the database was deleted and restored how is it possible that i do not show up on the old backup database? i have consulted with a couple webmasters tonight and have confirmed if you did indeed have a copy of the program before you wiped out the database i should indeed be showing on the old one. of course i wouldn't show up now on the database as i quit your program because of your lack of and professionalism.

as for who burned who i ahve been watching your member base drop little by little everytime you post.

evelynturner

16th April 2003, 22:33

Ya'll blasted me for pasting posts her what about her???? she just copied her post from Jay's???

Or is it that double standard Pharisee thing - do as I say and not as I do???

Can't issue credit to an account that no longer exists can I?

If you recall in one of your posts YOU requested me to remove your info from ALL databases. I honored your request. No I am a bad guy because I did what YOU requested me to?

Remember that post?? I think you do. So now why are you not in the back up - because YOU requested to be REMOVED from it and I honored that request.

Now, I cannot make a credit to an account that does not exist can I?

AND considering that I used YOUR screen shot as the basis for the credit I think that was more than fair.

SO who is the bad guy now? Like I said I tired earlier when I saw your screen shot to make the appropriate credit - but at YOUR request you were removed from the backups. YOU removed yourself from the current databse - thus making it impossible for me to make the credit.

You must decide if you want to keep grumbling about what is not in your non - existant account - or sign up again and let me make the credit.

See I can do nothing for you to make this situation better as long as you do not have an account. It is at a stand still - either you need to give in an trust me to do it - or you need to admit to all the forums that you deleted your account and thus refuse to allow me to make the credit. It is that simple.

At this point it is you holding up any credit due to you. You are doing so by not having an account than can be credited.

It is your decision but remember - to decide against it only proves one thing - that all you wanted was a fuss in the first place.

lady_knight

16th April 2003, 22:51

you are truly a liar. i can say it without worry too. i requested that two days ago and you only posted on the jof forum today my dear. you posted inferring that i was lying and hadn't been a member with an account. you did say an account that never exsisted. you also lied about paypal tos and what is states about payments. so if you wiped out all data on me why would you post today that you can't find me?

Originally posted by evelynturner
Ya'll blasted me for pasting posts her what about her???? she just copied her post from Jay's???

Or is it that double standard Pharisee thing - do as I say and not as I do???

Can't issue credit to an account that no longer exists can I?

If you recall in one of your posts YOU requested me to remove your info from ALL databases. I honored your request. No I am a bad guy because I did what YOU requested me to?

Remember that post?? I think you do. So now why are you not in the back up - because YOU requested to be REMOVED from it and I honored that request.

Now, I cannot make a credit to an account that does not exist can I?

AND considering that I used YOUR screen shot as the basis for the credit I think that was more than fair.

SO who is the bad guy now? Like I said I tired earlier when I saw your screen shot to make the appropriate credit - but at YOUR request you were removed from the backups. YOU removed yourself from the current databse - thus making it impossible for me to make the credit.

You must decide if you want to keep grumbling about what is not in your non - existant account - or sign up again and let me make the credit.

See I can do nothing for you to make this situation better as long as you do not have an account. It is at a stand still - either you need to give in an trust me to do it - or you need to admit to all the forums that you deleted your account and thus refuse to allow me to make the credit. It is that simple.

At this point it is you holding up any credit due to you. You are doing so by not having an account than can be credited.

It is your decision but remember - to decide against it only proves one thing - that all you wanted was a fuss in the first place.

yoyo122

16th April 2003, 23:30

All I can say if she is giving people credit now and the 2.00 it is only because she people found out about what kind of a person she really is. She had to do something . But it seems funny that her members are not posting how they did in fact got everything back plus the 2.00. You all know it would be all over the forums by now. I wonder where is all of these members from her 7 sites saying you know she is one fine business person. I have beenn paid I have been given credit great person to work with.

Poncer

16th April 2003, 23:32

You know something? Evelyn and her croonies brought it to the TKO forum as well. Nobody bashed her program, but was talking about the e-mail she sent in the discussion section.

Hey Evelyn? Are you the person name Tired accusing people of bashing you, and posting it in other forums? Geesh, that forum does not have many members as the others where anybody could bash you there.

lexie

16th April 2003, 23:50

Originally posted by evelynturner
Ya'll blasted me for pasting posts her what about her???? she just copied her post from Jay's???

ET ,

Please stop grouping everyone together . "Ya'll" didn't do it . One person did .

And I c&p all the time . No biggy . Should have been a none issue and never mentioned to you .

Really though , isn't that what started this whole mess ? Sort of punishing everyone for the "sins" of some ?

lexie

17th April 2003, 00:07

Originally posted by Poncer
You know something? Evelyn and her croonies brought it to the TKO forum as well. Nobody bashed her program, but was talking about the e-mail she sent in the discussion section.

Hey Evelyn? Are you the person name Tired accusing people of bashing you, and posting it in other forums? Geesh, that forum does not have many members as the others where anybody could bash you there.

I really don't think ET or frysky have anything to do with those post there nor do I think either would have a problem indentifying themselves . And so what if they did post . You said it yourself .

"People have the right to post here about any programs. This folder is to discuss the programs including FillmyAccount. Everybody have a right to talk about these programs."

No I am not defending either of these ladies . I do think that "petty" has gone to far , on both sides of the issue .

C&P sheez !

Poncer

17th April 2003, 00:15

Lexie, FrySky is Blonde-Owl, and she admitted on Jay's forum that she is the unregistered id of Tired on the TKO forum.

lexie

17th April 2003, 00:26

Originally posted by Poncer
Lexie, FrySky is Blonde-Owl, and she admitted on Jay's forum that she is the unregistered id of Tired on the TKO forum.

OK ,

And why does it bear mentioning ?

Poncer

17th April 2003, 00:34

Because the post she responded to there was in the General Discussion of programs talking about the e-mail that was sent. It was not a complaint, and nobody was bashing the program. Well, the false accusation by Fry was that attacking the two members there for bashing Evelyn's program on the forums when it is not. I had to step in and tell this Frysky who as Tired that it is a General Discussion folder, and that the members have a right to discuss that e-mail. I am keeping an eye on that thread because it is starting to heat up. Richard and Enchanted is not around much right now, and us mods there need to keep things under control.

lexie

17th April 2003, 00:50

If she comes back over there and post something in the wrong folder , how bout scolding her there . It's not relevant to what's going on her as she is posting in the right thread and on topic .

And Poncer , before you get on a roll to try and convince me that her mistake there IS some how relevant , please don't .

Poncer

17th April 2003, 00:55

Already have scold her there. I left a message for the mods there which DAz is also one about the folder, and keep an eye out on there.

As to Frysky and Evelyn, please keep this here, and not take it to the other forums that have nothing to do with the fighting that is going on here.

nadiaasoma

17th April 2003, 03:43

I don't get it why programowners get so much ceaters?

The webmaster of getpaidmail, Sebas Broekhof, has an
exelent signup-page-skript, I must have hit the signup-button
a hundred times by now and every time I get a "you already signed-up" message!
It's great! I don't have to email the webmaster about the
double sign-up and I don't think that he will get much ceaters that way.

Marian

fryskys2001

17th April 2003, 12:38

Originally posted by Poncer
Lexie, FrySky is Blonde-Owl, and she admitted on Jay's forum that she is the unregistered id of Tired on the TKO forum.

here is poncer poncing again I am not and I have not posted in any other forum then gpf.jof,amd this one I am administrator of egoldforum and i did not even take this scrapt you are all doing you poncer are only a trouble maker and if you see thing are settling down you don't like it so you have to stir it up again be mature and let it go don't you see that poeple on both side are just plain tired of this scrapt be a good little one and go play in the traffic

and in egoldfporum I posted a email form evelyn that had nothing to do with the matter at hand I am again saying prove to me I was on any other forum beside the one i have mention I do have a life beyond these forum and work to do to

fryskys2001

17th April 2003, 12:42

Originally posted by nadiaasoma
I don't get it why programowners get so much ceaters?

The webmaster of getpaidmail, Sebas Broekhof, has an
exelent signup-page-skript, I must have hit the signup-button
a hundred times by now and every time I get a "you already signed-up" message!
It's great! I don't have to email the webmaster about the
double sign-up and I don't think that he will get much ceaters that way.

Marian
this nadia is a add on to prevent multiple sign up from the same user older program have protect themself by bying one and I hope that in a near futre all script have one build already in it you are right thisis getting to be alot but there is still place that do no tby a scgript at 50 you only get what you buy but put another 50 then you get all kind of other feather that will protect your members of cheater and scammer but there is still place other there who are selling these so call good cac and it will cause problem to owners

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 12:46

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This entire thing is getting so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blonde joke for the day -

Do you know how to tell when a blonde is having a bad day????

She has a pencil behind her ear and can't find her tampon!!!!

Since I was blonde and still am somewhat I can tell blonde jokes so there!!!!!

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fryskys2001

17th April 2003, 12:47

Originally posted by Poncer
Because the post she responded to there was in the General Discussion of programs talking about the e-mail that was sent. It was not a complaint, and nobody was bashing the program. Well, the false accusation by Fry was that attacking the two members there for bashing Evelyn's program on the forums when it is not. I had to step in and tell this Frysky who as Tired that it is a General Discussion folder, and that the members have a right to discuss that e-mail. I am keeping an eye on that thread because it is starting to heat up. Richard and Enchanted is not around much right now, and us mods there need to keep things under control.

you say you are a moderator there then you have access to the bulletin board go to it and post the ip of the person who you say is me then i will ask of any moderator in here or admin to please post my ip and evelyn ip if you have nothing to hide poncer wish I daught my guess is your the one doing these post on that forum your talking of wish I do no teven knew it existed then bring the so call ip of that poster in there and please do not take fo rever I am going to send my ip to a memebr here one who is against evelyn and she can compare them

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 13:00

I don't think there is a member 1 here that has the GUTS to post mine AND fryskys IP address!!!!!!

POST IT PLEASE - then EVERYONE WILL SEE WHO IS THE LIAR!!!

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You have MY permission to post mine I think fryskys gave her permission in the post above!!!!!!

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What are you afraid of????????

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yoyo122

17th April 2003, 13:12

lol I think your stress has made you loss it big time. You are really one sick person.

lexie

17th April 2003, 13:14

*passes ET a chill pill *

Evelyn ,

We members don't have that power , though most of us are already certain that you and fry are 2 different ppl anyway and don't need that evidence to convince us further .

Let me add ....... yes I KNOW YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT .

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 13:23

I have got a terrible case of the giggles today - don't know why though.

I think it is going to thunderstorm or something - I get that way before a really bad storm. Oh well, it feels great!!!!!!!!!!!

So if ya don't like a little happiness spread on your pity party then why did ya ask me to come????????

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Poncer is still posting what he calls proof that fryskys and I are the same person - WE GAVE PERMISSION for his high and mighty to pull our IP addresses and POST them right here in the public forum.

SO - Poncer - PROVE you are telling the truth - PROVE IT - just like you told me to in not so many words.

POST OUR IP addresses, pull our Yahoo Profiles, POST IT ALL! I dare you!!!!!

Personally I don't think you will because it will make you out to be a liar and you couldn't have that could you???????????

No, Poncer always tells the truth and everyone thinks he is always right - the high and mighty Poncer.

Well, I will tell you this either you can post it or I will retrieve my info and post it myself!!!!!!!!!

Jeez, I can't type for the giggling - want some I wish I could share it!!!!!!!!!

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I am not the type to say this usually - but I have to this time ----

I TOLD YOU SO PONCER!!!!

I have told you that we are not the same person but you keep pushing the issue.

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yoyo122

17th April 2003, 13:29

Me my self I could really care less if you are the same person or not. It still doesn't change the fact of what kind of person you are.
I'm a pretty happy person I don't need drugs to get me by. But thanks if I'm ever looking for a pick me up I will keep you in mind.

yoyo122

17th April 2003, 13:38

I also want to say this. If you have 2 computers wouldn't that give you a differant IP address? Now I'm only saying this because of how much you are posting about this. So I don't want to burst anyones bubble but I don't think that would prove anything anyway. Or just using a diiferant computer at some ones house.. But I really wouldn't think that to be.
But as i said before I don't care if you are the same person. Just don't think posting a IP adress would clear it up if you have 2 computers.

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 13:39

So you can't bash me for much else now because I have the giggles you accuse me of taking drugs!!!!

Look who has a weird name - yoyo - hahhahahahahahahhaha

For your information I do not drink I do not take drugs and ANYTIME you want to put your money where your mouth is I will GLADLY submit to a FULL RANGE DRUG TEST!!! They can even take hair clippings to test for long term use!!!

SO - care to put up or shut up about it - we can even post the results right here to asspease YOU YOYO.

Or better yet - I could call the company who does the drug testing for our company and just ahve them email me the results from the test 2 weeks ago. WOULD that make you happy??????

Are you so lonely and so drepressed that you think a person can't be happy without drugs?????????

It is called LOVE and it is a wonderful thing. After 12 years together and 11 years of marriage I still feel like a school girl in love. Why do you have a problem with that - jealous maybe????

OH! I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!!!!!

You saw those cute little fish net things I bought at EBAY and got jealous because YOUR woman well.. I won't go there.

Too bad so sadd, you live a very lonely life if all you can do is think up ways to bad mouth someone. I have a WONDERFUL life!!!!!

I am so happy right now I think I could bust!!!!

But poor YOYO thinks the only way a person can achieve happiness is by drugs. Must be a user then if you accuse others of becuase the Lord knows I certainly don't need drugs to be happy.

AND I am willing to prove it - put your money where you mouth is. I will call the testing lab RIGHT now and get a price quote - you settle up with them and I will have the results faxed to YOU then posted HERE.

Then when once again YOU are proven wrong what will you do???????????????????

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yoyo122

17th April 2003, 14:14

Well lets see no I don't think I'm alone been married 18 years and still going strong. I could care less about what you buy at Ebay. I don't think I have ever made a comment about Ebay.
The name yoyo is Maybe a better name suited for you!
But none the less yoyo is a screen name big deal.
I have only bashed you about how rude you was and how you whine and what a bad business person you are.
As far as drugs go I could care less if thats what you do or don't I'm not afraid of posting anything.
Your stress that you talked about sometimes comes from depression. So you might be on drugs for that

***It is called LOVE and it is a wonderful thing. After 12 years together and 11 years of marriage I still feel like a school girl in love. Why do you have a problem with that - jealous maybe????***
Still don't understand why I would have a problem with that.

Is your mind so confused you ar invented things you think people care about.

I have not been proven wrong about nothingyou have proven you are a whiner and a cheater and very very rude.

What found out someone was smart enought to think that you could have 2 computers that could give you 2 IP address. That now the next ten of your post will be prove I take drugs. What a sad person you are.

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 14:19

POST THE SOURCE OF THE IP ADDRESS TOO!!!!!!

Then you will see fryskys is in CANADA

I am in MISSISSIPPI!!!!!

I take NOTHING PERIOD - I prefer alternative medicine. I have a book for sale at EBay you might find interesting.

I do not pollute my body with garbage like that - I have worked too hard to get it where it is today to even consider that.

As for thinking things up? Me? I wasn't the one who originally suggested it - read the posts YOYO.

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yoyo122

17th April 2003, 14:26

I think it is a life you need to get. Isnt there like 7 programs you should be taking care of I don't think I'm the one thinking up things. You think I care how long you been married or that your happy????? Or that you buy and wear fish net stockings?? Big flipping deal. So now Can you get that in your head and retain it? You show me a post that I have wrote about ebay or about you being the same person PROVE IT PROVE IT PROVE IT PROVE IT!!!!!!!!

fryskys2001

17th April 2003, 17:06

Originally posted by yoyo122
I also want to say this. If you have 2 computers wouldn't that give you a differant IP address? Now I'm only saying this because of how much you are posting about this. So I don't want to burst anyones bubble but I don't think that would prove anything anyway. Or just using a diiferant computer at some ones house.. But I really wouldn't think that to be.
But as i said before I don't care if you are the same person. Just don't think posting a IP adress would clear it up if you have 2 computers.

ok here are my 2 ip for my computer

then anyone having access to the bulletin board can check if any of them are evelyn

computer i use to post here ip = 24.43.116.101

my surfing computer is =24.156.26.145

now you will say why is the first number both 24 simple cable connection with roger.com and a number is asign to each sector now be my guess have fun

yoyo122

17th April 2003, 20:00

fryskys2001
First of all I'm not the one who said you are both the same but I did ask if you have 2 computers then you would get a differant ip address.
***Originally posted by yoyo122
I also want to say this. If you have 2 computers wouldn't that give you a differant IP address? <<<< thats a question
Not in any of my post can you or anyone for that matter can say I have said that. I don't care who ET is or if she signs up at places under 100 differant names.

zfreaky

17th April 2003, 21:23

All right,

I wanna straighten up some things in here on something that takes the ridiculous turn.

First if you have a router to share internet connexion, ALL THE COMPUTERS SHARING IT HAVE THE SAME IP!!! the one from the router. This being said, we can put it aside.

Second, Evelyn Turner and Fryskys aren't the same person, I say that for knowing them both. One is canadian and speak french too (Fryskys) and the other is a true American.

Also, I am so sorry for ppl who decided to boycott Evelyn's programs without giving her time to straighten out everything. To all ex-members of 1st profit, Just to tell you that Evelyn has just restored all credits in all accounts of members who sent their infos and resigned at 1st profit.

too bad it was bashing a webmistress time for some narrow mindeed ppl like poncer who simply missed his true vocation. He could have been a good pastor or a crowd animator. Cause he surely knows how to drive ppl to where he wants them to be. If you give her time as you would for anyone else, I am not afraid to say she will get back on her feet. But if you keep on bashing it is not her you gonna punish but all the members who followed her.

If you bunch of morons drive her out of business then your friggin' $2 will mean nothing compare to the thousands that will be lost by honest members who are busting their asses trying to make a buck or two.

Now wouldn't all of you just put a lid on and stop busting her chops cause I would be really pissed off if I was to lose 6 goldmembership and lots of money and downline in her programs.

Grow up, mature a little and drop the act of it all.

lady_knight

17th April 2003, 21:33

hey have you read every thread on all the forums evelyn signed up to ? did you get the email from fillmyaccount saying that the people whining were all cheaters? do you belong to fillmyaccount and have you gotten the deragatory emails she sent to people. did you get the one where she said paypal has a minimum of $5.00 that can be paid out to people? also she got mad at people complainign about some garbage to do with ebay and that made people angry as it was not a paid to read email but a out and out trashing of people who argued with her on that issue. in basic terms that is spam. i for one will tell you that i was not going to quit this pogram until she started bashing the people that were complaining. several members urged her through the correct email address to please come to the gpf to explain the mess to members. she did not come there until people were already upset at unanswered emails, she had called people with complaints cheater, and she did not come in to explain but do some bashing herself. i have interacted with many business people in gptr and other areas such as congressman, private business, medical industry big wigs and so forth and never have i come across someone as rude and arrogant as this woman and i have faced a few duesy's.

yoyo122

17th April 2003, 21:36

**Grow up, mature a little and drop the act of it all***

Grow up thats funny I wonder if ET will also take your advice have you seen some of her post? This is all about ET .
How grown up was ET when she sent out emails saying whiners would be deleted just for asking a question. And then saying how she was stressed.
If i was to walk in a store and be treated like the way ET did you better believe I wouldn't put up with it. So why would it be any differant then a web program.

Also like I said before if Et has done such great things and getting everything back like she has said. you would see people on forums posting that. But they are not. Being rude doesn't get you no place. ET should of took the time to think things out before sending emails saying people are whiners and cheaters.

Poncer

17th April 2003, 21:53

Originally posted by fryskys2001

here is poncer poncing again I am not and I have not posted in any other forum then gpf.jof,amd this one I am administrator of egoldforum and i did not even take this scrapt you are all doing you poncer are only a trouble maker and if you see thing are settling down you don't like it so you have to stir it up again be mature and let it go don't you see that poeple on both side are just plain tired of this scrapt be a good little one and go play in the traffic

and in egoldfporum I posted a email form evelyn that had nothing to do with the matter at hand I am again saying prove to me I was on any other forum beside the one i have mention I do have a life beyond these forum and work to do to

Ummmmm, is Egoldforum owner a scammer and a hacker? Nobody trust that person.

Poncer

17th April 2003, 21:59

Originally posted by evelynturner
I have got a terrible case of the giggles today - don't know why though.

I think it is going to thunderstorm or something - I get that way before a really bad storm. Oh well, it feels great!!!!!!!!!!!

So if ya don't like a little happiness spread on your pity party then why did ya ask me to come????????

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Poncer is still posting what he calls proof that fryskys and I are the same person - WE GAVE PERMISSION for his high and mighty to pull our IP addresses and POST them right here in the public forum.

SO - Poncer - PROVE you are telling the truth - PROVE IT - just like you told me to in not so many words.

POST OUR IP addresses, pull our Yahoo Profiles, POST IT ALL! I dare you!!!!!

Personally I don't think you will because it will make you out to be a liar and you couldn't have that could you???????????

No, Poncer always tells the truth and everyone thinks he is always right - the high and mighty Poncer.

Well, I will tell you this either you can post it or I will retrieve my info and post it myself!!!!!!!!!

Jeez, I can't type for the giggling - want some I wish I could share it!!!!!!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah hahahahhahahahahahahahah

I am not the type to say this usually - but I have to this time ----

I TOLD YOU SO PONCER!!!!

I have told you that we are not the same person but you keep pushing the issue.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I never accused you two are that. I thought it was you as Tired on the TKO forum until Frysky admitted it was her on the JOF forum. Now, for you to accusing me to have signed up for many programs with different e-mail addresses is false, and others can tell you I am not a cheater. Even Lexie will say so as will. There is one other thing as well. I am not even any of your programs at all, and your so called proof saying that I am is false because it tells you that you put them in, and forcing me taking my Yahoo ids from JOF forum to make me look like one.

Poncer

17th April 2003, 22:17

of being the same person as Frysky. Now evelyn, you are losing it completely with your rants, and making false accusations. Since you are wasting your time trying to find me or any of my Yahoo ids in your programs since I never joined them. Since I am a mod at the TKO forum, I do not know your ip number and Frysky's ip number. I posted on JOF forum because I thought it was you. The TKO forum had none of all these posts about it, and it needs to stay that way. I advise you all to keep it from that forum as well since it has flared up on the other forums. If you all have read some of my posts, you would have seen that I was getting the two different sides of the stories, and at times I did defend Evelyn. The only time that I turned was when her stories were never consistent which I have experience in that department because I caught Chriscool in the past for the exact same thing. Word of advice Evelyn, what you did by wiping your database was wrong period. ChrisCool did the exact same thing which led his program to be listed on the boycott list. For you doing the exact same thing, never giving the members who paid their gold membership, never returned their downline to them, or returned their cash, it made you look like you scammed your members. These people spent money for gold membership, and sent out ads to get their downline. They wasted their money for nothing when you did that. Evelyn, the best thing you could have done when you have cheaters is waited for the CC scripts to be installed. When that happened, Jay said it could find all the cheaters, and have them removed for you without you doing much to it. It could have save a lot of time for everybody, and these posts would not have happened. And for you accusing people as cheaters when they are not is like pulling a Bob Bowen of PaidBizOp. Check his program on the boycotted list. If all the people complained about your program filed those forms, your program would be put on the boycott list. Think about it for a while before you respond.

zfreaky

17th April 2003, 23:22

well well well, lady_knight is getting her sword out at me now. I said, if you read my posting carefully, that I am a member of all of Evelyn's programs and I am very happy to have sticked with her.

I have recuperated all my money, my gold memberships and my referrals, even more, cause I kept faith in her since she started with clickbuxx. Maybe if you stopped insisting on sending e-mails 2 days after the first sent it wouldn't have been that way. But I am not saying this to be judge or whatever. I'm not gonna go down that path cause I'm not the kind of person to hold a grudge on things.

The only thing I wanna say is if everyone gave her time to accomplish her things and get on tempo, we might see a better side of her, that I personnally have seen and seeing whenever I have to deal with her. And for god's sake. Stop harrassing her for I, and I repeat, would hate for her to close all programs because she got fed up of all the trash that's been going on since too long now.

thanks in advance for your understanding

from a scared member

hello
hey have you read every thread on all the forums evelyn signed up to ? did you get the email from fillmyaccount saying that the people whining were all cheaters? do you belong to fillmyaccount and have you gotten the deragatory emails she sent to people. did you get the one where she said paypal has a minimum of $5.00 that can be paid out to people? also she got mad at people complainign about some garbage to do with ebay and that made people angry as it was not a paid to read email but a out and out trashing of people who argued with her on that issue. in basic terms that is spam. i for one will tell you that i was not going to quit this pogram until she started bashing the people that were complaining. several members urged her through the correct email address to please come to the gpf to explain the mess to members. she did not come there until people were already upset at unanswered emails, she had called people with complaints cheater, and she did not come in to explain but do some bashing herself. i have interacted with many business people in gptr and other areas such as congressman, private business, medical industry big wigs and so forth and never have i come across someone as rude and arrogant as this woman and i have faced a few duesy's.

BLACKFROG9

17th April 2003, 23:34

I am totally amazed at the direction this whole
thing has gone!

I don't care if she's 1 person or 10!
I don't care if she wears fishnets or boxers!
I don't care who her relatives are!
I don't care who her friends are!

I don't care about any of it!

All I care about is she called me a cheater!

And no matter how many people post on her behalf
that won't change!

Oh yeah...Evelyn...since the cheap shots are flying anyway...

Just how many members did you have to email to
get one to come over here to defend you????

Or is he/she on your payroll like fryskys2001????

All you had to do was apologise like any normal person
would have done, and this would have been avoided!

But NO!...You were proud of the fact....

So I guess you get what you get...I didn't do it to you...
you did...no-one else.

evelynturner

17th April 2003, 23:38

I am posting this in hopes that you may come your senes. Have any of you actually read the answer I gave Sherry over there? The database - or the moajority of - was not wiped intentionally. If it was why on God's green earth would I be killing myself putting in 16 - 20 hours a day to get the accounts credited back with what was lost????

You are the ones who are not making sense here at all. If I wiped it intentionally why would I do that for the mers - credit the accounts? Why not make them start fresh?? I did not though did I? I offered to recredit but because the credit was not done the very instant it was requested I get slammed. Did it occur to you that MAYBE when you sent the request I had explained the script conversion was NOT complete and I would be doing all credits once that was complete?

OH - the issue that started all of this - the 1 rude email sent to whoever it was. Did thatare includeBEFORE I snapped at them yes they had emailed me and I answered the question, they replied back asking the EXACT same question. I answered it again. They again replied asking the same question - worded a bit different but none the less the same question. AND again I answered it. The fourth time I received the same question from the same person is what set me off.

I hope you have nice nice party I have work to do. KMWAS! When you figure out what that means then you will truly know who I am and what I am about.

lady_knight

17th April 2003, 23:39

please i am not pointing my sword at you believe me on that. i only asked you direct pointed questions pertaining to the subject at hand. you are the one come here telling people to grow up who are making a valid argument on behalf of many other members whos are not quite so bold as to do so. i will make a correction to the qouted statement here from me. evelyn lied and told members the minimum mass payout amount from paypal was $1.00 not $5.00. still that is a lie and other wbmasters will prove that. i also called paypal today and they did indeed confirm that she is wrong. you gonna argue with paypal too? yeah i made that call to claifornia and i've called texas, mississippi, and kentucky. the woman whom she made sound like she was heavily connected with in kentucky was not at all impressed by this. she also stated that she had only two personal contacts with evelyn period one over a boulder blocking a roadway inwhich ms.turner needed an assist to get the county to do something and the other was apersonal family matter. the on;y reason i asked you these pointed questions is if you are going to come in without the knowledge of the facts you better know who you are backing. if you took what i said to be an attack on you please read again as i in no way attacked you.

also on your comment that we all should grow up i have this to say. if evelyn is your example of acting grown up please pass me the pampers cause i don't want to grow up to be like her.

Originally posted by zfreaky
well well well, lady_knight is getting her sword out at me now. I said, if you read my posting carefully, that I am a member of all of Evelyn's programs and I am very happy to have sticked with her.

I have recuperated all my money, my gold memberships and my referrals, even more, cause I kept faith in her since she started with clickbuxx. Maybe if you stopped insisting on sending e-mails 2 days after the first sent it wouldn't have been that way. But I am not saying this to be judge or whatever. I'm not gonna go down that path cause I'm not the kind of person to hold a grudge on things.

The only thing I wanna say is if everyone gave her time to accomplish her things and get on tempo, we might see a better side of her, that I personnally have seen and seeing whenever I have to deal with her. And for god's sake. Stop harrassing her for I, and I repeat, would hate for her to close all programs because she got fed up of all the trash that's been going on since too long now.

thanks in advance for your understanding

from a scared member

lady_knight

17th April 2003, 23:46

yes i read that whole little post you wrote. you want to answer this question? you said that:

So, myself and 3 other webmaster came to this conclusion - after the goof that I had made the highest earnings listed was close to $1.50. So they recommened that I offer a bonus of $2 to each member upon the relaunch with the new scripts. I did this. I am currently in the process of adding this to each members account.

now here's the question to you. i had earnings showing over $2.16 owed and i know others were owed more than nyself and did not quit yet. can you kindly explain how you came to a figure of $1.50.

also it was not one email to one member evelyn. you sent the email to the entire memebership get thats traight too. you also spammed us with garbage over some ebay related issue where you were arguing with some mebers about something. there was absolutely no paid email in that particular email ot the subsequent one you sent. that makes it in fact spam as it did not involve the membership only certain members.

Originally posted by evelynturner
I am posting this in hopes that you may come your senes. Have any of you actually read the answer I gave Sherry over there? The database - or the moajority of - was not wiped intentionally. If it was why on God's green earth would I be killing myself putting in 16 - 20 hours a day to get the accounts credited back with what was lost????

You are the ones who are not making sense here at all. If I wiped it intentionally why would I do that for the mers - credit the accounts? Why not make them start fresh?? I did not though did I? I offered to recredit but because the credit was not done the very instant it was requested I get slammed. Did it occur to you that MAYBE when you sent the request I had explained the script conversion was NOT complete and I would be doing all credits once that was complete?

OH - the issue that started all of this - the 1 rude email sent to whoever it was. Did thatare includeBEFORE I snapped at them yes they had emailed me and I answered the question, they replied back asking the EXACT same question. I answered it again. They again replied asking the same question - worded a bit different but none the less the same question. AND again I answered it. The fourth time I received the same question from the same person is what set me off.

I hope you have nice nice party I have work to do. KMWAS! When you figure out what that means then you will truly know who I am and what I am about.

BLACKFROG9

18th April 2003, 00:00

Lady_Knight she is perhaps correct this time..

She sent a nasty email to everyone and then she personally
tried to degrade and put down someone that I personally know.

That hateful,tasteless email is the one that started the
snowball of a mass desertion, that she calls our fault...

If she had just smarted off and ranted to someone who
could possibly have done the things that she accused this person
of doing ...she just might have gotten away with it and still been
in business!

But her mistake was telling someone off who is well known and
respected....BAD MISTAKE!

Someone who kind , well spoken and rarely says an unkind word to anyone!...You just picked the wrong person to lash out at!

As you see by the one who stood and still stand behind her now.

We will continue to do so...

Next time you get pissed at someone...***** at them ...NOT your
entire database!...where did you learn that anyway????

Do the members of your other programs put up with this crap?

Poncer

18th April 2003, 00:00

Evelyn, you know what the truth is? I said for the people to look at both sides of the story first. I am not blaming you solely for what happened. I also blame the old webmaster who did not keep her end of the bargain. I am putting the blame equally on both of you, not all of it on you like other people wanted to do. Yes, I put my neck on the line to believe you because I am not even a member of your programs. I wound up changing my mind because of what you posted which I thought as strange. You can tell your little friends here to back off because I am not attacking you solely. Just wondering why you keep changing your story some of the time. Have you ever thought that when you tell the members that you e-mailed back to in different ways that you confused them? Maybe people are confused at what you are trying to say, and you may need to be patiant. I think people who are slamming you on here is confused at what you are trying to get at. You need to work on it to explain better because people think you scamming them when you are saying things that confusing them and all that.

BLACKFROG9

18th April 2003, 00:05

Poncer I think your confused...

Have you lost your mind???

Are you on whatever it is she's taking???

You defending her????

Alright how much did she pay you???

I can't believe this!...one minute your against her the next you take her side...

You need to choose and stick to it...

BLACKFROG9

18th April 2003, 00:12

Poncer ...I don't care what you do either because it's clear that,
you don't have a clue what's going on...

You never got bashed by her while you were a member.
You never had to listen to her rant and rave at you own
forum....well you might if you had a forum...

You haven't been called a thief and a cheat..

I have and I am sick and tired of it!

Go ahead and join her program...you two are a great match!
You can tell each other stories so you won't be bored...

Poncer

18th April 2003, 00:17

Originally posted by BLACKFROG9
Poncer ...I care what you do either because it's clear that,
you don't have a clue what's going on...

You never got bashed by her while you were a member.
You never had to listen to her rant and rave at you own
forum....well you might if you had a forum...

You haven't been called a thief and a cheat..

I have and I am sick and tired of it!

Go ahead and join her program...you two are a great match!
You can tell each other stories so you won't be bored...

Actually, she has called me a cheater on her programs, and is trying to find my ids on there. Lol, she will be disappointed because I am not in any of her programs.

About my posts to her? It is trying to get her to think because she keeps changing her story. She somehow snowballed Sherry with her explanation over on the JOF, but not everybody have. I am not saying Sherry is gulliable because she still is asking about her downline and her goldmembership that have not been restored. She even said her account only have $0.38 cents.

zfreaky

18th April 2003, 00:26

well,

1st Blackfrog
I wanna say that, I'm not an employee of Evelyn and even if she would have mailed me to take her defense, I wouldn't have done it without knowing her. I must trell thatr I received all the mailings from when she took 1stprofit and fillmyaccount and the others, and I never was insulted by her mails cause it didn't fit my profile. So in order to get insulted by them there are 2 possible reasons. 1- You are really a cheater who got busted. or 2- you needed to be heard on a matter that got out of hand already. If you fit the first category, I'm glad you decided to quit the program cause I don't want you there. In the second case, well I must say you have, as do I, a very short temper and take for granted that incentive mailings are directed to you. Lighten up, and maybe , just maybe look at poncer's posting about patience and understanding and not getting lost and mixed up in written rage.

2nd

Lady_knight, told you that you were pointing your sword towards me...just read your last threat, ahem thread. It is ok for you to bash ppl over 2.16$ if it can calm your mind on the matter I am willing to spend it on you. But in exchange, I will ask for you to rejoin FMA and wait til all is fixed and when your account will be refunded, I want you to address you here to the gptboycott and say that you have been refunded of all you said you lost. I have followed the matter since the start of it and I know some of the ppl who posted here are usual "brasse-marde", as we say in french. and believe me there are no english translations suitable enough for it to be said (Not an insulting term directed to ppl but to situation. just wanted to make things clear about that before getting slammed on the wrist).

PM me if we have a deal on the matter dear

lady_knight

18th April 2003, 00:29

poncer does have a valid point about the old webmistress because fryskys2001 did post for evelyn on jof the email between vicky and evenlyn. as i did tell evelyn i would like vicky to show her face again so i can point blank ask her where's our paymeants you promised us. now vicky had emailed the entire memebrship stating that she had a deal with evelyn that she would still be allowed access to the program until she could see to it that all payouts she owed could get paid. i am reserving any judgement on that part until vicky shows her face which at this point seems doubtful.

BLACKFROG9

18th April 2003, 00:31

Then whats your problem then???

If she did as you say then why all of a sudden become an evelyn fan???..Dosen't make sense to me...

And another thing, if your not a member of her programs,
just why are you involved in this...and don't tell me it's just
morbid curiosity!

You didn't know the one who was attacked by her.
So just why have you taken up the battoe with her???

Oh but I forgot...you're defending her now...

Well don''t let me stop you ...be my guest.

lady_knight

18th April 2003, 00:41

i shall not no or ever rejoin the program period to satisfy anyone such as evelyn or you and la justice se servira.
Originally posted by zfreaky
well,

1st Blackfrog
I wanna say that, I'm not an employee of Evelyn and even if she would have mailed me to take her defense, I wouldn't have done it without knowing her. I must trell thatr I received all the mailings from when she took 1stprofit and fillmyaccount and the others, and I never was insulted by her mails cause it didn't fit my profile. So in order to get insulted by them there are 2 possible reasons. 1- You are really a cheater who got busted. or 2- you needed to be heard on a matter that got out of hand already. If you fit the first category, I'm glad you decided to quit the program cause I don't want you there. In the second case, well I must say you have, as do I, a very short temper and take for granted that incentive mailings are directed to you. Lighten up, and maybe , just maybe look at poncer's posting about patience and understanding and not getting lost and mixed up in written rage.

2nd

Lady_knight, told you that you were pointing your sword towards me...just read your last threat, ahem thread. It is ok for you to bash ppl over 2.16$ if it can calm your mind on the matter I am willing to spend it on you. But in exchange, I will ask for you to rejoin FMA and wait til all is fixed and when your account will be refunded, I want you to address you here to the gptboycott and say that you have been refunded of all you said you lost. I have followed the matter since the start of it and I know some of the ppl who posted here are usual "brasse-marde", as we say in french. and believe me there are no english translations suitable enough for it to be said (Not an insulting term directed to ppl but to situation. just wanted to make things clear about that before getting slammed on the wrist).

PM me if we have a deal on the matter dear

Poncer

18th April 2003, 00:45

The reason is that lady_knight is my friend, and she is one of my mods in my group. I know she is not a cheater at all, and I will stick up for her since she is my friend.

The other reason is that I made opinions of the actions of what both Evelyn, and the old webmistress Vicky have said and did. I made a vauled opinion on what both sides said about this issue as a third party, and have notice things what Evelyn did that I responded to.

Third reason, this fighting started to go onto a forum that I am a mod of when it was not there before, but everything is quiet for now. I asked that the postings should be on the forums where there are already posts about this program without getting other forums involved as well..

zfreaky

18th April 2003, 00:53

good post poncer and great call

BLACKFROG9

18th April 2003, 01:13

Being called a cheater wasn't my profile either!
Thats what I hate the most!

She took all the honest members and twisted it around to look like it was our fault she had a meltdown...and then didn't have the common decency to admit she was way off. God forbid
even wrong!

If I had said the things that she did...I would have had the
sense to at least try to apologise or something!

Not her she just keeps on posting the same thing over
and over..."complainers are cheaters"

And poncer did you say you were a mod somewhere???

I'd really be interested in where...

Poncer

18th April 2003, 01:30

I am at TKO. I think Evelyn is on me because I accused her or one of her croonies of posting an attack post to one of the members on the forum there. I got the ip number, and gave it to Sherry for her to check out for me. I did not accused them that they are the same person like they they claimed I did. I did mentioned that she was accused on another forum of having two accounts, and a third one would get herslef banned from that forum.

evelynturner

18th April 2003, 01:36

If you have no CURRENT account with the program - then there is absolutely no way I can make your account correct is there?

As for admitting - why don't you look at the Jay's. I have more than admitted that I screwed up.

So, since I have admitted MORE than once I might add that I goofed up - and since YOU have left me now way to make amends with YOU then why does this discussion continue????

When I say YOU I am referring to each member posting here that has terminated their accounts and continues the bashing session.

Since their is no possible way on the face on this earth to make it right with you - then tell me this -
what right do you have to continue bashing me when you will not give me an opportunity to correct the situation?

If you had study logic at all then you would know the logically conclusion is right here right now.

See until you decide to give me the opportunity to make it right then we are at an impasse. Should you decide not to give me an opportunity to make it right then the logical thing for you to do would be to let the matter die - you chose to terminate and take the loss.

Have fun, adios, see ya good bye and all that other good bye stuff.

fryskys2001

18th April 2003, 06:45

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Poncer

I never accused you two are that. I thought it was you as Tired on the TKO forum until Frysky admitted it was her on the JOF forum. Now, for you to accusing me to have signed up for many programs with different e-mail addresses is false, and others can tell you I am not a cheater. Even Lexie will say so as will. There is one other thing as well. I am not even any of your programs at all, and your so called proof saying that I am is false because it tells you that you put them in, and forcing me taking my Yahoo ids from JOF forum to make me look like one. [/QUOTE

well poncer this time you have gone to far so should i copy and paste this post in jof forum to prove how liar you are I have never said I was at tko forum for I never even read one post there the last time I was given a link to this forum was when kingdom came back form all there problem I never posted there ever less saying I am that tired person you may have a group to find lost kids and to help young one but a group should be form to help you keep your head on straight adn your story straight go to any of the 3 forum and my story is one of the same and in my own word that so many poeple have such a hard tiem to understand because they only want to understand they that thye are god and jury and hell is for those who do not say like them and now if you do not understand the meaning of this post them get a translater

fryskys2001

18th April 2003, 07:19

this forum has about 1400 members weird thing is only let say to be generous 10 of them are complaining about evelyn program
all togetherher program have over 6000 members how is it that it is the only same 10 that goes from forum to forum including me and evelyn that keep on ing there if every one took what she said personaly for me I did not because 90% of the WM when emailing their members to complain about nasty email,cheaters and complainer they do not just send it to the people concern but to all people in their data
those letter are ment to taken seriously by the winner.cheater,and complainer but not by the members who it does concern I get many of those by WM I read say hey some more of those again then delete it and go on with my work why because I am none of the above and with evelyn there again I did not take it personaly because i was none of the above

she got that dam site around the 26 and the nasty letter started the next day how do you excpect her to have thing straighten out in such a short notice and for the owner her email box she use for her paypal gave a over storage at least until after the 5 of april so poeple why is that my guess is member where swamping her with complain so how was evelyn or I to contact her about any problem if you can not even send a simple email to her now tell me this and the one trying to reach her was me and not evelyn so this is why I know this to be true

here i decided to put you the header of her mail return to me

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Sorry, your message to sfagreg_txranger18@yahoo.com cannot be delivered. This
account is over quota.

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yoyo122

18th April 2003, 07:36

Well I'm still waiting for forums to report what a great business it is that she has. You don't see that either. But you see people posting about other programs.
I don't cheat any program I don't whine to any wm. And I also don't know what was in place when ET took over the site. I also feel that ET who said she has been around and has 7 programs would know a little about how to run a site.
Yes I have seen emails from wm about cheaters. But it is not done in the rude way ET did it. And to say if you ask a question you are a whiner and will be deleted thats so funny.
Yes there is only the same people on here posting but I know that it was more then 10 who have dropped ET.

fryskys2001

18th April 2003, 11:08

ok this is a message form evelyn she is updating members account but his having some problem for many of the member have not supplies her with all there information alot have only put there id

she need id
earning
referal count

I have made a email accoutn specialy for fma member that have not been updated properly for missing crucial information

here is the emial address line_t_2297@hotmail.com I promis if all the info needed is included in any email I receive will be updated to every satisfavction

here is my before update
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.0000
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 0.1208
You have directly earned: 182 Points
You have earned from your Downline: 0 Points
Total available points after all transactions: 182 Points

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gold Member
Bonus Referrals
NO
Downline Count
#1 0
#2 0
#3 0
#4 0
#5 0
#6 0
Total: 0
Account Transactions
Cash Credits
Total Cash Credits: $ 0.0000
Cash Debits
Total Cash Debits: $ 0.0000
Point Credits
Total Point Credits: 0
Point Debits
Total Point Debits: 0
Ready to cash out?
Visit your Redemption page.

the after I will be back for cynthia is chanding her server

Poncer

18th April 2003, 22:30

Frysky, this is the post I was talking about on JOF of your response to me. I was talking to Evelyn, not you.

**********
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Poncer
Geesh Evelyn. How many different ids you are going to use?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

darn your hard to undersatnd blond-owl ,fryskys2001,frysky are one and the same but not evleyn turner but line tremblay french speaking person born in lake st-jean quebec canada now living in ontario canada look up my pnone number that is under my brother name and my phone number is 613-747-0564 my brother nam is paul we are all a family of nobody no big bag in our family just regular people others now know this I am these 3 username if you took the tiem to read a thread you would know this even lady knight knows it ask her

and now stop poncing on me for a while I have not ponce on you me so get off my back******************

http://www.jaydillar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13681&perpage=15&pagenumber=6

You jumped on me for nothing. I responded to Evelyn because I thought she is Tired on TKO forum. I did not quote for a reason to save bandwidth for the forum. You should not have responded because my post was not directed at you.

fryskys2001

18th April 2003, 23:11

if you where not talking to me then explain thi sprevious post that is a total fabrication of yours

Poncer
Senior Member

Registered: May 2002
Location:
Posts: 277
Lexie, FrySky is Blonde-Owl, and she admitted on Jay's forum that she is the unregistered id of Tired on the TKO forum.

how can I admit to something thta is not true for i have never even read a post there not even when we where invited to join when kingdon came back online

Originally posted by Poncer
Frysky, this is the post I was talking about on JOF of your response to me. I was talking to Evelyn, not you.

http://www.jaydillar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13681&perpage=15&pagenumber=6

You jumped on me for nothing. I responded to Evelyn because I thought she is Tired on TKO forum. I did not quote for a reason to save bandwidth for the forum. You should not have responded because my post was not directed at you.

Poncer

19th April 2003, 00:27

Because of your post made it sound like that it was you as Tired.

fryskys2001

19th April 2003, 08:09

Originally posted by Poncer
Because of your post made it sound like that it was you as Tired.

then i will ask you next time before jumping to conclusion now you all know I don't always put my taught right jsut pm me and I will give it my best shot to explain what I have writen or will change the structure so I am saying what I mean so I guess neither one of us is perfect we both did mistake yuppy I am not alone in this mess

zfreaky

21st April 2003, 20:11

For everybody's personnal entertainment I wish to thank Evelyn Turner very much for the great job she's doing in bringing alive some programs we thought would die with their previous owners.

the last payout, well double payout from clickbuxx.com and almost at payout at 1st profit too.

Transaction Details

Payment Received (ID #10A34976*********)

Name:
Click Buxx (The sender of this payment is Verified)
Email:
bflyy1@*******
Email Address That Payment Was Sent to:

pnantel@*******

Business Contact Information:

Business URL: http://www.ClickBuxx.com
Customer Service Email: turner28@*********

Gross Amount:
$40.00
Fee Amount:
-$1.46
Net Amount:
$38.54

Date:
Apr 20, 2003
Time:
19:53:51
Status:
Completed

Subject:
CLickBuxx double payout
Note:
You have been paid!!!

Shipping Address

No Address Provided

Payment Type:
Instant

zfreaky

21st April 2003, 23:03

Here you are to make you laugh a bit on certain fma members:

I want you to tell me if this isn't harassing mail or what

hello!, before the cleaning of the database, I had been given a payout of .33 which was refunded back to my account (due to paypal fees). it shows on my earnings page as i deduction.

my 2 cents!!:Well wake up and smell the coffee child cause where in the world is it that paypal fees are reimbursed by a program webmaster in the first place. I wish other webmasters/webmistresses would back me up on this one!!! And what was the payout min at fma before Evelyn took over???

and it also shows the refund. But if you look at total earnings, it only shows .21c, the .33c was never added back on. please fix this for me.

my 2 other cents,and there'll be more of them!!: (why should Evelyn Turner refund money owed by the old webmistress...you'll see more later)

Account Transactions
Cash Credits
(edit cash transations)
04/12/2003 09:12 refunded payment 0.33000
Total Cash Credits: 0.33000
Cash Debits
(edit cash transations)
04/12/2003 09:12 paypal 0.33000
Total Cash Debits: 0.33000

-----------end of first mailing -------------------

----------- 2nd mailing ---------------------------
hello,. ..i dont understand....i had .33 in my account. You removed it making my balance 0. then replaced it making my balance .33 plus what i have earned since. not just the .22 thats showing in my account. Please clarify what you mean by making my balance 0

my 2 cents: ( Well darling, since you're asking for money taken from your account by paypal, consider it a gift that Evelyn doesn't charge you fees to pay you by paypal like other programs do cause, the fees you are paying on your side, she pays them on her side too!!! well isn't that a wake up call. Again, I know I will be backed by webmasters and webmistresses on this one)

sent you the full page from what i see. as you can see from my earnings page, it was never refunded. it states that it was, but if you look at my earnings balance, you will see that it was not.

Please fix this. well if this isn't rude talk, my name is fido!!!!!

------------end of 2nd mailing --------------------
5 mins after, I know I was online with her she receives another mail by the same person

------------ 3rd mailing --------------------------

You have directly earned: $ 0.2260
You have earned from your Downline: $ 0.0000
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 0.2260
You have directly earned: 80 Points
You have earned from your Downline: 0 Points
Total available points after all transactions: 80 Points
Gold Member
Bonus Referrals
NO

.33 take away for paypal payout right
.33 refunded to your account
so

.33 + (-.33) = 0

my 2 cents: (as I said earlier she is asking money to cover her paypal fees for a payout done with the old webmistress of FMA (you'll see what I mean later on)
------------end of third mailing -------------------
Will you believe it, she mails back again within minutes.

------------4th mailing ----------------------------

no they do not cancel out.

.33 in account - .33 sent to me =0 balance
+.33 refunded to you to be placed back in account = .33 in account.

also it was not the previous owner who handled this. the site changed ownership on 3/26/03. this is from my paypal account.
Mar 28, 2003 Refund To TheMrsWebDirectory.com Completed -0.33 0.31 -0.02 16.33
Mar 27, 2003 Payment From TheMrsWebDirectory.com Refunded 0.33 -0.31 0.02 16.35

My 2 cents: (this is soooo big a bad con that she doesn't even noticed that she has been paid by vicky the old webmistress and not Evelyn turner. Wake up lil lady)

as shown in my fillmyaccount account, (page sent in prev email). the amount was recorded in the cash credits, but never credited to balance after all transactions.

please fix this. Well our lil lady is quite fond of bossing ppl around!!!!

****** (removed the name to respect privacy)
--------------end of 4th mailing ------------------------

this last which probably isn't the last cause I stopped there couldn,t take more laughing cramps

--------------last mailing ------------------------------

okay, i just want my account to be properly credited.

My 2 cents: (again has tendencies towards world domination)

so far it has not been. again, they dont cancel out, and doing the math, they never would.

please fix my account sounds like a stern ultimatum, doesn't it???

So you have now been witness of 34 minutes of online chat between me and Evelyn and what kind of mailing she has to go thru every day.

I tip my hat to this strong woman.

evelynturner

21st April 2003, 23:31

How many of you have slammed me saying I was stealing from you?

How many of you claim that I was not crediting properly?

Look at zfreaky's post and tell me HONESTLY - who is cheating who here?

In this members view I should give her 66 cents for the 33 cents she THINKS she never got - BUT which her account plainly shows that she did get.

So maybe you have slammed a little prematurely???????

She is not the only one with these types of emails. But I thought maybe posting one of these would give you an idea of what I have gone through on a DAILY basis since I took over the site. Take just 15 members pulling stunts like this - if each of them received the credit they asked for but did not earn then how much would you be cheated out of?

Yes getting these member accounts updated MANUALLY is taking time - but it is eliminating possible cheaters as above.

She is either not very good at math or deliberately trying to gain money she did not earn. So giving her the benefit of the doubt I have chosen not to delete her and to give her a chance as a member.

Would other webmaster have been so kind when her attempt is obvious????????????

Now 30 minutes on each "conversation" such as this, about 15 members per day doing this usually the same bunch of members - now tell me something - did I have a right to get annoyed? Did I have a right to be upset????

YOU ARE DARN RIGHT I DID BECAUSE THESE MEMBERS ARE TRYING TO CHEAT THE HONEST ONES AND I WILL NOT PUT UP WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have about 470 member info emails left to complete. Please hold sending details until Friday. I will have all accounts that I have the info for completed by then. After that I will send a mass email to the members asking the ones who have not been updated with their bonus to contact me.

Duplicate info email take time to sort through. I am trying to maximize the time to get this done for duplicate emails down. Allow me the time to complete the 470 that I have then you may email me if your account is still incorrect.

Many of the emails I have all ready done did not contain earnings info - so even after all this is done I will have to go back and adjust those - again slowing the process.

I want to thank the members who have hung in with me and been patient for this update. I will be having a nice contest when this is done. The value of the prize will be over $100!!!
After Friday I will also need some contest ideas - has to be a really good one for a prize that great.

I have made some changes to the site as well in the terms, the contact page. I will be working on the home page and FAQ tomorrow.

Again I thank those who have waited it out they are being well rewarded with their bonus.

Evelyn Turner

webmistress@fillmyaccount.com

Poncer

21st April 2003, 23:59

I have to say this. Paypal never have taken any fees out of the money that were sent to me, or from the webmasters who paid me. Only E-gold does that.

lady_knight

22nd April 2003, 00:44

they do if you have an upgraded account. i got suckered into the paypal debit card. i didn't realize til i got paid by joshspaidlinks and getpaidtoread that they do charge. a couple others on gpf complained til i told them that was what had happened and they like me quickly downgraded.

nadiaasoma

22nd April 2003, 02:49

Yea, they do.
But I think that with mass-payments like Linkburst etc. they don't charge fees.

Marian

Poncer

22nd April 2003, 03:01

When I got the $5 random payment from JaY, there was no fee.

mmamamel

22nd April 2003, 05:18

i have been with Paypal for years and never been charged a cent with cash payments being paid to me. But once you reach a certain amount of incoming on Credit card payments to you, I think there is a charge, but I thought that only applys to auctions. ALso when being paid small amounts under $1..maybe they are starting to charge, its got to be a hassel to make so many payments. Why not contact paypal and ask, they have always answered my questions quickly. :)

fryskys2001

22nd April 2003, 05:42

Now here is my 2 cent has zfreaky sats I will stand by him you the members that complain about fees to paypal could tell me what kind of paypal account you all have if you are not webmasters

I use to have a premium account where has each transaction what costing me fees since I jus do not need my paypal beside receiving cashout form site and transfering to my bank account I change it to a regular account I never get any fees

so if you chose a premium account fees should be your concern and not the webmaster and if you chose to be members of no minimum and cashout to low that again should not be on the webmaster shoulders
paypal do offer account with no fees just change your to one

by the way I was paid to yesturday $15 dollars and my account is still at $9 for once she has my downline point converted it raise back my balance on average I cashout with evelyn twice a month between $15 and $20 and it is always paid inside 24 hours

from many site i am wait for cashout some date of over a month and manyh of thos are from the dragon team but do I complaint yes I will but in a polite way to them soon

evelynturner

22nd April 2003, 08:48

I am fed up completely with this guy. I find 62 accounts for him in Fill MY Account. I deleted ALL of them and he goes and creates most of them AGAIN. SO I deleted them AGAIN last night.

Guess what this morning he is BACK

AND in other programs too - I deleted 15 accounts he created in Fill My account this morning - and here is what I have found in ClickingMoney4U this morning--

huq35 abcdef nazrulhaq Taslima Jannat mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq34 abcdef nazrulhaq Nyma Ferdous mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq81 abcdef nazrulhaq Sharmin Ahmed mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq86 abcdef nazrulhaq Korban Hossen mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq82 abcdef nazrulhaq Ashiqur Rahman mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq87 abcdef nazrulhaq Farhana Nahid mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq83 abcdef nazrulhaq Rajib Ahmed mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq88 abcdef nazrulhaq Md.Saimul Haque mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq92 abcde nazrulhaq Maruf Ahmed mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq30 abcde nazrulhaq Nigar Sultana mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq8 abcde nazrulhaq Jamal Uddin Ahmed mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq96 abcde nazrulhaq Md. Monjil Hossen mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq98 abcde nazrulhaq Monzurul Haque mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq91 abcde nazrulhaq Famida Huq mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq97 abcde nazrulhaq asif Hossen mainu@usa.com
0000-00-00 00:00:00

huq79 4ac105d5050ad21e ladyrider Mirja Shahan mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-17 04:38:14

huq79 4ac105d5050ad21e ladyrider Mirja Shahan mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-17 04:38:14

huq78 4ac105d5050ad21e ladyrider Rubel Miah mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-15 04:09:51

huq94 4ac105d5050ad21e ladyrider Md. Mustak Ahmed mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-15 09:42:21

huq100 4ac105d5050ad21e ladyrider Md. Abdul Bari mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-17 08:13:56

huq89 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Saida Afreen mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-18 00:29:50

huq90 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Monir Hossen mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-21 00:10:11

This guy has 21 separate accounts. I have listed the IP address and UPLINE user names.

I chose to list the upline so they would understand that I am deleting him so their downline will decrease because of it.

Webmasters - please check for him in your programs. Like I said he had 62 accounts at Fill My Account and these were discovered in ClickingMoney4U this morning. I will be checking my other programs for himt oday as well and will update you on where else I find him.

I apologize in advance if listing the upline user name offends anyone but I thought they had a right to know. This is the quickest way I know to inform them since he is being dleted NOW.

Evelyn

evelynturner

22nd April 2003, 08:58

Last night I deleted the guy above from Fill My Account - I check this morning and look what I find!!!!!!!!!

huq90 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Monir Hossen mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-21 00:48:48

huq85 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Sumon Sarker mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-16 05:01:55

He has created 2 more accounts in Fill MY Account since I deleted him LAST night!!!!

If someone knows how to ban an individual in Cash Crusader Scripts can you please email me at:

turner28@yahoo.com

This has got to stop with this guy.

Thanks

Evelyn

nadiaasoma

22nd April 2003, 09:03

Originally posted by Poncer
When I got the $5 random payment from JaY, there was no fee.

CONGRATS!!!!!!

Marian lol

bulldog10

24th April 2003, 12:00

Originally posted by evelynturner
Last night I deleted the guy above from Fill My Account - I check this morning and look what I find!!!!!!!!!

huq90 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Monir Hossen mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-21 00:48:48

huq85 0bc7a0b7062090d5 112 Sumon Sarker mainu@usa.com 203.91.139.206/1.0 dns2.bijoy.net:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE4)
2003-04-16 05:01:55

He has created 2 more accounts in Fill MY Account since I deleted him LAST night!!!!

If someone knows how to ban an individual in Cash Crusader Scripts can you please email me at:

turner28@yahoo.com

This has got to stop with this guy.

Thanks

Evelyn

ok, one guy cheated .. what about all the people who don't have their referrals and who haven't had this new $2.00 bonus added to their accounts?

fryskys2001

2nd May 2003, 21:24

This is what the owner of fillmyaccount has ask me ot post to you all and now I told you all she was fair to poeple who knew how to be patient and give her a chance 2 person in fma were rewarded for having stand by her and receive 2 referal plus a gold memebrship for life now you all eat your toast
quote from evelyn turner:
turner28: TO ALL FILL MY ACCOUNT MEMBERS WHO QUIT THE PROGRAM
turner28: and WHO DEMANDED that I drop EVERYTHING and correct the problem
turner28: I think YOU OWE the members of 1st Profit a serious apology since I had to stop working on their accounts to correct yours
.turner28: I have not yet decided what that reward will be - however - I am considering giving EACH member 4 FREE REFERRALS in addition to their $2.00 bonus
turner28: I think the members of 1st profit have been very patient and not jumped down my throat they way fma did and so they shall be rewarded for it

bulldog10

3rd May 2003, 01:02

There are several new complaints on GPF ranging from having a negative balance to "refusing to respond to ebay complaint requests" to spamming former members.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=2&t=41447&st=465

nadiaasoma

3rd May 2003, 03:28

I think that Evelyn should stop treating this thread as a supportfolder, and other threads on other forums for that mather, and just write an email to her memberbase and
apologise for the harsh mails she has send before and get on with it.

Marian

travelrn59

3rd May 2003, 14:37

I am back in her database AGAIN -- I have cancelled my account 3 different times!!!!!! I checked each time to make sure I deleted my account and NOW I am back in!!!! I have reported her to her host for spam because today I got an email from fillmyaccount where she dared to ask for support. Evelyn you sure gotta lot of nerve. And also is putting ppl back into the database after they deleted their accounts 3 times not CHEATING!!!!!!!!!!

If any program ever needed boycotting fillmyaccount is the one

lexie

3rd May 2003, 15:37

Merely preserving this .

Originally posted by fryskys2001
This is what the owner of fillmyaccount has ask me ot post to you all and now I told you all she was fair to poeple who knew how to be patient and give her a chance 2 person in fma were rewarded for having stand by her and receive 2 referal plus a gold memebrship for life now you all eat your toast
quote from evelyn turner:
turner28: TO ALL FILL MY ACCOUNT MEMBERS WHO QUIT THE PROGRAM
turner28: and WHO DEMANDED that I drop EVERYTHING and correct the problem
turner28: I think YOU OWE the members of 1st Profit a serious apology since I had to stop working on their accounts to correct yours
.turner28: I have not yet decided what that reward will be - however - I am considering giving EACH member 4 FREE REFERRALS in addition to their $2.00 bonus
turner28: I think the members of 1st profit have been very patient and not jumped down my throat they way fma did and so they shall be rewarded for it

zfreaky

3rd May 2003, 15:48

Well who knows if it isn't you who resign there each time then redelete yourself to put more oil on the fire. I'm surprised that ppl just listen to loudmouths who act like preachers in a thread of vehemence against a false ennemi. Have you ever heard of Don Qixiotte. Have a look at the book, unless reading is to long and to demanding compared to thrashing when you are hidden behind a keyboard.

I always said that a dog barks very loudly when it's behind a fence but isn't that courageous when facing facts. so keep yourselves well hidden behind your puter and continue barking. As we all lived it once at least in our lives, when a sound is permanently there it tends to blend in the surrounding and the fade away into oblivion.

Have a great barking day bulldog, sierra36 and all other yapping ppl out there

I am back in her database AGAIN -- I have cancelled my account 3 different times!!!!!! I checked each time to make sure I deleted my account and NOW I am back in!!!! I have reported her to her host for spam because today I got an email from fillmyaccount where she dared to ask for support. Evelyn you sure gotta lot of nerve. And also is putting ppl back into the database after they deleted their accounts 3 times not CHEATING!!!!!!!!!!

If any program ever needed boycotting fillmyaccount is the one

bulldog10

3rd May 2003, 16:15

Originally posted by zfreaky
Well who knows if it isn't you who resign there each time then redelete yourself to put more oil on the fire. I'm surprised that ppl just listen to loudmouths who act like preachers in a thread of vehemence against a false ennemi. Have you ever heard of Don Qixiotte. Have a look at the book, unless reading is to long and to demanding compared to thrashing when you are hidden behind a keyboard.

I always said that a dog barks very loudly when it's behind a fence but isn't that courageous when facing facts. so keep yourselves well hidden behind your puter and continue barking. As we all lived it once at least in our lives, when a sound is permanently there it tends to blend in the surrounding and the fade away into oblivion.

Have a great barking day bulldog, sierra36 and all other yapping ppl out there

If some people find reading differing opinions and experiences too hard to deal with, I guess they can resort to personal attacks and foul language.

Problems continue: members who resigned from FMA keep getting re-added over and over, spam mail continues, payola has been offered.

sierra36

3rd May 2003, 17:28

zfreaky has the same attitude as evelyn

anyone else notice that..

shes rubbing off on her members.. making them rude, loudmouthed and nonsense speaking individuals..

And i have read don Q Quite boring actually.. Had to read it in 8th grade..lol

and i have a life.. just waiting on the 30 days of inactivity to arrive so she deletes me since i cant

lady_knight

3rd May 2003, 17:41

well i just got more spam today and turned it in to the host. i will continue to bark and growl as long as i am spammed or threatened as evelyn has so chosen to do. she might want to clarify her statement on turning in people to other gptr sites. if she turns me in they will all laugh i am positive. i either talk to most of them through emails, messengers or their own forums. they all know i am a good member. so she better clarify she's turning in only those who cheated not the ones who complained to lucidity hosting as that could then be considered slanerous and defaming practice surely.

zfreaky

3rd May 2003, 19:13

I know I wasn't supposed to reappear here but, I have been spammed by getpaid for posting I didn't wanna receive.

Ok here is a trick not to hear from her ever again, Just block her email address from your email so it will be considered as junk mail and forget about her. Cause now, instead of doing the logical thing,

1- you abuse the host cynthia, at lucidity hosting, with all the spamming report you consider spamming cause you hold a grudge against 1 webmistress.

2- you are forfeiting other ppl of earning money in a program they chose to support and you don,t accept they do cause you supposeddly been cheated, scammed, stolen from, etc.

3- Overloading the servers at lucidity hosting is affecting lots of other gptr which webmasters didn't ask for this to happen.

Again, plz just ban her mailing from your mailbox and I implore you to stop whinning for something that other might find good cause all tastes are in the world and should be respected.

thx

lady_knight

3rd May 2003, 19:29

this is the response from cynthia and my letter to her. i don't see any abusive ways here. and from the sounds of cynthia's reply i don't quite think she sees it as abuse either. i am quite sure if cynthia found me abusive she'd have said so.

Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 13:45:58 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Cynthia" <lucidity@lucidityhosting.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book
To: lady_needs_knight@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: fillmyaccount spam

I have just personally spoken with Evelyn on IM and she deleted your account right then. If it continues, please let me know.

Cynthia
LucidityHosting

-------Original Message-------

From: liz
Date: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:19:58
To: support@lucidityhosting.com
Subject: fillmyaccount spam

i hate to bother you about this but i have been reinstated against my wishes by evelyn turner in fillmyaccount. i just recieved another email from her program and i want it stopped once and for all. i am going to forward the email i got from her to you in a seperate email. i know you are doing your best to stop this but she continues to reinstate members with old databases and i am sick of it. please stop her from doing this.

http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=820255 my outwars monster growing link. click it and my character grows a foot taller.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
matter." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

travelrn59

3rd May 2003, 21:36

Originally posted by zfreaky
Well who knows if it isn't you who resign there each time then redelete yourself to put more oil on the fire. I'm surprised that ppl just listen to loudmouths who act like preachers in a thread of vehemence against a false ennemi. Have you ever heard of Don Qixiotte. Have a look at the book, unless reading is to long and to demanding compared to thrashing when you are hidden behind a keyboard.

I always said that a dog barks very loudly when it's behind a fence but isn't that courageous when facing facts. so keep yourselves well hidden behind your puter and continue barking. As we all lived it once at least in our lives, when a sound is permanently there it tends to blend in the surrounding and the fade away into oblivion.

Have a great barking day bulldog, sierra36 and all other yapping ppl out there

oh never mind you're not bright enough to understand zfreaky

bulldog10

3rd May 2003, 22:02

Originally posted by sierra36
zfreaky has the same attitude as evelyn

anyone else notice that..

shes rubbing off on her members.. making them rude, loudmouthed and nonsense speaking individuals..

And i have read don Q Quite boring actually.. Had to read it in 8th grade..lol

and i have a life.. just waiting on the 30 days of inactivity to arrive so she deletes me since i cant

umm, lol.. yup, I noticed

I'd bet the 30 days doesn't work, just a hunch :)

bulldog10

3rd May 2003, 22:05

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zfreaky
I know I wasn't supposed to reappear here but, I have been spammed by getpaid for posting I didn't wanna receive.

Ok here is a trick not to hear from her ever again, Just block her email address from your email so it will be considered as junk mail and forget about her. Cause now, instead of doing the logical thing,

1- you abuse the host cynthia, at lucidity hosting, with all the spamming report you consider spamming cause you hold a grudge against 1 webmistress.

2- you are forfeiting other ppl of earning money in a program they chose to support and you don,t accept they do cause you supposeddly been cheated, scammed, stolen from, etc.

3- Overloading the servers at lucidity hosting is affecting lots of other gptr which webmasters didn't ask for this to happen.

Again, plz just ban her mailing from your mailbox and I implore you to stop whinning for something that other might find good cause all tastes are in the world and should be respected.

thx [/QUOthen TE]

complain to or about getpaid in an appropriate forum, geez ... apples and oranges, this is about FMA .. spamming, unfullfilled promises and payola

Poncer

4th May 2003, 01:32

Originally posted by zfreaky
I know I wasn't supposed to reappear here but, I have been spammed by getpaid for posting I didn't wanna receive.

Ok here is a trick not to hear from her ever again, Just block her email address from your email so it will be considered as junk mail and forget about her. Cause now, instead of doing the logical thing,

1- you abuse the host cynthia, at lucidity hosting, with all the spamming report you consider spamming cause you hold a grudge against 1 webmistress.

2- you are forfeiting other ppl of earning money in a program they chose to support and you don,t accept they do cause you supposeddly been cheated, scammed, stolen from, etc.

3- Overloading the servers at lucidity hosting is affecting lots of other gptr which webmasters didn't ask for this to happen.

Again, plz just ban her mailing from your mailbox and I implore you to stop whinning for something that other might find good cause all tastes are in the world and should be respected.

thx

Maybe Evelyn put all those members back in the database? Why? She loves the attention, and to put honest people down at the same time.

evelynturner

4th May 2003, 01:59

Evelyn did not put anyone back in the database they were there ALL the time the data table and the user table were just not talking to each other properly!!!! I think that has been explained more than once.

NOW - bulldog if you will send me your user anme I will delete you right now you can im me at yahoo turner28 I am online right now waiting for it.

BUT at least we do agree on 1 thing - the host issue.

In the mailing I sent out today I had spent a good deal of time addressing these issues with thost - neither of us have done a backup since the non communication of the tables was discovered - so we do not know why accounts are reappearing - however the sign up date on lady knight's did show a very recent one as if she had rejoined.

We are looking into the problem though.

By bouncing emails yes the server gets overloaded and other sites will be affected.

By spam complaints - that too affect the host as well.

What those members are doing is dragging in other innocent sites that have nothing to do with what is going on - but will suffer because of it if they continue doing it.

Is that what everyone wanted - to affect so many GPT program that you basically cut your own earning throat?

You anger is towards me - keep it that way - do not cause other sites to suffer because of your anger with me. I did not drag a single other webmaster in by name - nor did I drag in other programs by name - but by causing trouble for the host the names of the affected programs will soon be known because of downtime.

You say I am the evil one that I have created all this - well ask yourselves this - when you tried to log in how many of you saw - USER NOT found- and just created a second account?

OR - assumed that you were deleted and went on about everything without checking the lost password function to be sure?

Do you know how many "I Can't Log In" emails I get each day? Quite a few, when I have repeatedly explained how to retrieve the info.

Those emails do not bother me - I know that we get on the average of 50 - 100 paid mails each day and we cannot possibly read each and every one of them - no problem there.

But to start involving other sites - yeah now that will get me riled up. 1 person started this thread and it went snowballing from there - fine - as I said before your anger is with ME not with the other sites on the same server as mine - remember that when you are responding and complaining.

How do you think those webmasters will feel when your complaints start affecting their sites?

Been a little selfish lately, thinking only of self and not how your actions have affected others?

It is like I said in another post - due to the people here in the beginning basically DEMANDING that I drop everything and make their accounts right - I think you owe the members of 1st Profit an apology because I have been trying to correct these problems and put 1st Profit on hold. The members there have been very gracious, patient and understanding which is WAY more than I can say for some of you here. You could take lessons from them for sure.

Considering some of them have waited almost 2 months for me to get their accounts straight. What you have done here disgusts me. It is CHILDISH - SELFISH - SELF SERVING among many other things I am really too tired to say.

I would have to ask this of some of you - when you have a disagreement with your significant other - do you drag half the neighborhood into it? Do you involve inocent people who have no idea what is going on or probably don't even care?

Same thing here - you are about to affect innocent sites that you may or may not be a member of. You stand to seriously affect those sites and what do you care?

This is bash Fill My Account right? Well drag them in if it pleases you but I will not be a party to it.

Bulldog - get your user name to me I will delete you tonight.

Poncer

4th May 2003, 02:11

Evelyn, you should not have sent that e-mail at all either. You caused some trouble in here with that e-mail. It brought out some unsavory comments in another thread where they cussed at the people who complained. These people are not cheaters, and that is what got you in the trouble in the first place. The person who is acting childish throwing a tantrum because someone complained about you is you when you insult these people calling them names.

evelynturner

4th May 2003, 02:42

Both of you want to talk about false accusations right? Well which one of you said the bad things about me concerning EBAY?

Want to talk about false accusations - explain this then:

134 total feedback with 1 yeah ONLY 1 negative!!!!

Here are the most recent posts:

My Feedback ( 137 Items)
User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:21:03 PDT Item: 2924665532
Praise: Great !! AA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:16:24 PDT Item: 2924664983
Praise: Hoo doggies! Folks paid fore the ink dried on the E-mail. Lets do bizness again.

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:12:45 PDT Item: 2924663268
Praise: gets easier to buy every time AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:05:32 PDT Item: 2924662791
Praise: Great!! just great!! AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:02:12 PDT Item: 2924070881
Praise: Great!! just great!! AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:01:04 PDT Item: 2924065784
Praise: great lady, great transaction AAAA+

User: superpackrat100(24) Date: May-03-03 20:19:16 PDT Item: 2925572962
Praise: Great Ebayer! Recommend! A++++++

User: superpackrat100(24) Date: May-03-03 20:18:16 PDT Item: 2925572691
Praise: Great Ebayer! Recommend! A++++++

User: superpackrat100(24) Date: May-03-03 20:18:15 PDT Item: 2925572402
Praise: Great Ebayer! Recommend! A++++++

User: dsosb(1) Date: May-02-03 14:31:56 PDT Item: 2924703465
Praise: Great and a joy to deal with even when I got confused a little she helped

User: bruffy_be(9) Date: May-01-03 02:03:17 PDT Item: 2925602146
Praise: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++++

User: dustygoldemail(28) Date: Apr-28-03 20:51:13 PDT Item: 2917044081
Praise: Get webmaster and seller fast to respond

User: jyj-atd(162) Date: Apr-28-03 14:08:57 PDT Item: 2920817088
Praise: Great seller! Communicates and attention to detail! AAA+++

User: bkelran(6) Date: Apr-27-03 21:23:12 PDT Item: 2919315148
Praise: awsomne service

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-26-03 05:16:27 PDT Item: 2925575066
Praise: A very nice person and easy transactions!

User: cookie11179(1) Date: Apr-25-03 00:58:34 PDT Item: 2920811788
Praise: She'll work with you to make sure you're completely satisfied...Thanks Evelyn!!!

User: tascha1975(31) Date: Apr-24-03 11:14:45 PDT Item: 2920768648
Praise: Thanks very good service

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:21 PDT Item: 2924067045
Praise: This woman has a halo around her head! Does that say it al?????????

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:20 PDT Item: 2922997734
Praise: Done alot of business with and will do again

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:19 PDT Item: 2921789961
Praise: Easy as pie!

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:19 PDT Item: 2921789508
Praise: Great person to deal with!

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:19 PDT Item: 2921787293
Praise: Always a "SWEET" deal all around!

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:56:19 PDT
Praise: A very nice person and easy transactions!

User: dolphin-lover3864(16) Date: Apr-24-03 09:51:41 PDT Item: 2924229020
Praise: Always a good deal! Never had a problem! Always a responce if needed!

User: gcr53(21) Date: Apr-23-03 18:00:40 PDT Item: 2922544219
Praise: You always make my experience of advertising wirth while.

User: gcr53(21) Date: Apr-23-03 18:00:40 PDT Item: 2922601488
Praise: You are a very considerate and enjoyable webmistress.

User: gcr53(21) Date: Apr-23-03 18:00:40 PDT Item: 2922606602
Praise: I always enjoy doing businees with you.

User: dawnmp64(106) Date: Apr-23-03 01:26:59 PDT Item: 2920100583
Praise: Great Seller! A+++++

User: harborbreeze(6035) Date: Apr-19-03 22:40:26 PDT Item: 2627178666
Praise: I Wish all bidders could be like this! A+ Thanks!

User: fryskys2001(1) Date: Apr-19-03 21:20:22 PDT Item: 2922407412
Praise: has always she is on top of thing no matter what great job

User: fryskys2001(1) Date: Apr-19-03 21:20:22 PDT Item: 2922408392
Praise: even with the bad time she had item were delivered fast good WM at all time

User: bruffy_be(9) Date: Apr-19-03 08:55:09 PDT Item: 2924217362
Praise: GOOD SELLER!!! +++++

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Praise: GOOD SELLER!!! +++++

User: sidclack(41) Date: Apr-18-03 20:55:19 PDT Item: 2923446663
Praise: Very gracious and responsive. Reccomended highly.

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Praise: Very fast communication, service completed likkety split. AAA+

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Praise: Great Customer!! Speedy Payment!! Thank You!! Item shipped 4/17/03

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Praise: Recommend to All! One of the good guy's! Thanks!

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Praise: Prompt email reply and extremely fast payment. The Best! Thanks!! A++

User: cadence8(205) Date: Apr-15-03 21:19:49 PDT Item: 2918136439
Praise: Execellent Seller! Will do business again!

User: boldfury(7613) Date: Apr-15-03 20:45:44 PDT Item: 3018217328
Praise: Great buyer - Thank You very much :)

User: fadioo(453) Date: Apr-15-03 20:33:11 PDT Item: 2522906979
Praise: SUPER FAST PAYMENT!!!! PLEASURE DOING BUSINESS WITH ~ 5 STARS !!!!!

User: jewelrybyezra(24198) Date: Apr-15-03 06:47:32 PDT Item: 2627313330
Praise: Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!! A++++++++++++++

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Praise: great seller good deals and fast

SHALL I GO ON? I think YOU ARE THE ONE promoting false accusations - deliberatle misleading people to believe something that isn't true because you have nothing better to do with your time.

Better yet here is a link to my feedback let each o thinks you are right check it out for themselves:

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/evelynturner-old/

ALL of the feedback I have ever received since the day I became a member with EBAY can be found there. I have NOTHING to hide where EBAY is concerned and I think if the other people posting here will follow up on this alone they will see that you are so full of poop your eyes are brown.

You can't find one true thing to slam me for anymore can you? So you have to lie to people about something they can EASILY see you are lying about? Whose credibility are you trying to kill? Because with the statements you made about me concerning EBAY it certainly is not mine....

BTW - Bulldog I am going to check for your user name in the morning it is late here and I have to take Lewis to have his stitches removed in the morning. Oh, that's right you were not aware of that were you?

My husband - Louis - who is a commercial construction worker fell 1 story Tuesday onto a concrete floor. For the members who expressed concern - he is doing much better now.

But for those who have nothing better to do than bash me here - maybe now they realize that I have a life as well as a business and in real life some things are more important than a few member complaints.

So while you wallow in self pity about lost earnings, lost referrals or a few harsh words I may have said - do you take into consideration how you may have worded the email you sent? What kind of things I may have dealt with all ready that particular day? Or what in real life may have affected my attitude that day?

So, now with all of this going on I am also dealing with my husband's injury too. He has gone back to work - which I think may have been a mistake but he always rushes things. He likes to work and would probably drop dead if he could not work. Which I can say this - I guarantee you will not find many out there like that. Even the emergency room doctor that treated him could not believe it when Louis asked if he could return to work the same day he was hurt!

So, I will be taking care of personal issues tomorrow morning - but will be working in Fill My Account tomorrow afternoon. If your account is still there and you do not want it there then email me, buzz me I will take care of it.

But then when I do what will you have to complain about then?????????????????

Poncer

4th May 2003, 03:05

Actually Evelyn, what you posted is for public veiwing if people go search for you on EBay. It was not an actual false accusations because someone found that complaint. Second, I never brought that EBay deal up. Third, for you accusing people like Tipsy as a cheater and a whiner is wrong as will. You know why? Because Cynthia and Tipsy both have been around for some time. I do believe Cynthia knows Tipsy through the Get Paid Forum, and she would tell you that Tipsy is not a cheater. Now, Cynthia would laugh in your face about Tipsy because it is unfounding accusation which is not even the truth. People will have the right to fill out complaints forms to get your program boycotted.

bulldog10

4th May 2003, 03:19

Originally posted by evelynturner
Evelyn did not put anyone back in the database they were there ALL the time the data table and the user table were just not talking to each other properly!!!! I think that has been explained more than once.

NOW - bulldog if you will send me your user anme I will delete you right now you can im me at yahoo turner28 I am online right now waiting for it.

BUT at least we do agree on 1 thing - the host issue.

In the mailing I sent out today I had spent a good deal of time addressing these issues with thost - neither of us have done a backup since the non communication of the tables was discovered - so we do not know why accounts are reappearing - however the sign up date on lady knight's did show a very recent one as if she had rejoined.

We are looking into the problem though.

By bouncing emails yes the server gets overloaded and other sites will be affected.

By spam complaints - that too affect the host as well.

What those members are doing is dragging in other innocent sites that have nothing to do with what is going on - but will suffer because of it if they continue doing it.

Is that what everyone wanted - to affect so many GPT program that you basically cut your own earning throat?

You anger is towards me - keep it that way - do not cause other sites to suffer because of your anger with me. I did not drag a single other webmaster in by name - nor did I drag in other programs by name - but by causing trouble for the host the names of the affected programs will soon be known because of downtime.

You say I am the evil one that I have created all this - well ask yourselves this - when you tried to log in how many of you saw - USER NOT found- and just created a second account?

OR - assumed that you were deleted and went on about everything without checking the lost password function to be sure?

Do you know how many "I Can't Log In" emails I get each day? Quite a few, when I have repeatedly explained how to retrieve the info.

Those emails do not bother me - I know that we get on the average of 50 - 100 paid mails each day and we cannot possibly read each and every one of them - no problem there.

But to start involving other sites - yeah now that will get me riled up. 1 person started this thread and it went snowballing from there - fine - as I said before your anger is with ME not with the other sites on the same server as mine - remember that when you are responding and complaining.

How do you think those webmasters will feel when your complaints start affecting their sites?

Been a little selfish lately, thinking only of self and not how your actions have affected others?

It is like I said in another post - due to the people here in the beginning basically DEMANDING that I drop everything and make their accounts right - I think you owe the members of 1st Profit an apology because I have been trying to correct these problems and put 1st Profit on hold. The members there have been very gracious, patient and understanding which is WAY more than I can say for some of you here. You could take lessons from them for sure.

Considering some of them have waited almost 2 months for me to get their accounts straight. What you have done here disgusts me. It is CHILDISH - SELFISH - SELF SERVING among many other things I am really too tired to say.

I would have to ask this of some of you - when you have a disagreement with your significant other - do you drag half the neighborhood into it? Do you involve inocent people who have no idea what is going on or probably don't even care?

Same thing here - you are about to affect innocent sites that you may or may not be a member of. You stand to seriously affect those sites and what do you care?

This is bash Fill My Account right? Well drag them in if it pleases you but I will not be a party to it.

Bulldog - get your user name to me I will delete you tonight.

Let's not cloud the issue. YOU bought the program (FMA), YOU admitted on JOF that you had not even looked at.

The server gets "overloaded" because YOU decided to take over a program that you had NO idea how to administer. How dare YOU try to blame innocent users for any server problems.

The other webmistresses/masters who are angry because of how YOUR ineptitude affects them.. well, who could blame them ?? Why do you fail to see that it's YOUR fault and not innocent users who are to blame ?? If anyone should feel guilty about the latest turn of events, it should be YOU, any sane person would agree.

All this "childish, self-serving" rhetoric .. we've heard it before. Might be best to drop it, it didn't work then and it won't work now.

If these complaints and call for boycott affect innocent sites, that's a shame. It's YOUR fault, ET, don't YOU dare try to put it on anyone else !!

Poncer

4th May 2003, 03:25

Don't worry. I am waiting for a response from Cynthia right now on this issue to end this junk that Evelyn created.

bulldog10

4th May 2003, 03:30

Originally posted by evelynturner
Both of you want to talk about false accusations right? Well which one of you said the bad things about me concerning EBAY?

major snippage of self-serving, repetitive stuff

BTW - Bulldog I am going to check for your user name in the morning it is late here and I have to take Lewis to have his stitches removed in the morning. Oh, that's right you were not aware of that were you?

So sorry to hear that your husband was injured, hope that doesn't put too much of a crimp in the crotchless undies and bondage tape activities (you brought up ebay, not I), Glad to hear that he's back to work.

lilshady

4th May 2003, 04:13

I was juz wondering who is it "Evil"-lyn...Louis or Lewis? I got confused on whether not if you forgot how to spell his name or if you might have 2 husbands?

bulldog10

4th May 2003, 04:51

Originally posted by evelynturner
Both of you want to talk about false accusations right? Well which one of you said the bad things about me concerning EBAY?

Want to talk about false accusations - explain this then:

134 total feedback with 1 yeah ONLY 1 negative!!!!

Here are the most recent posts:

My Feedback ( 137 Items)
User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:21:03 PDT Item: 2924665532
Praise: Great !! AA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:16:24 PDT Item: 2924664983
Praise: Hoo doggies! Folks paid fore the ink dried on the E-mail. Lets do bizness again.

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:12:45 PDT Item: 2924663268
Praise: gets easier to buy every time AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:05:32 PDT Item: 2924662791
Praise: Great!! just great!! AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:02:12 PDT Item: 2924070881
Praise: Great!! just great!! AAAA+

User: sidclack(41) Date: May-03-03 22:01:04 PDT Item: 2924065784
Praise: great lady, great transaction AAAA+

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SHALL I GO ON? I think YOU ARE THE ONE promoting false accusations - deliberatle misleading people to believe something that isn't true because you have nothing better to do with your time.

Better yet here is a link to my feedback let each o thinks you are right check it out for themselves:

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/evelynturner-old/

ALL of the feedback I have ever received since the day I became a member with EBAY can be found there. I have NOTHING to hide where EBAY is concerned and I think if the other people posting here will follow up on this alone they will see that you are so full of poop your eyes are brown.

You can't find one true thing to slam me for anymore can you? So you have to lie to people about something they can EASILY see you are lying about? Whose credibility are you trying to kill? Because with the statements you made about me concerning EBAY it certainly is not mine....

BTW - Bulldog I am going to check for your user name in the morning it is late here and I have to take Lewis to have his stitches removed in the morning. Oh, that's right you were not aware of that were you?

My husband - Louis - who is a commercial construction worker fell 1 story Tuesday onto a concrete floor. For the members who expressed concern - he is doing much better now.

But for those who have nothing better to do than bash me here - maybe now they realize that I have a life as well as a business and in real life some things are more important than a few member complaints.

So while you wallow in self pity about lost earnings, lost referrals or a few harsh words I may have said - do you take into consideration how you may have worded the email you sent? What kind of things I may have dealt with all ready that particular day? Or what in real life may have affected my attitude that day?

So, now with all of this going on I am also dealing with my husband's injury too. He has gone back to work - which I think may have been a mistake but he always rushes things. He likes to work and would probably drop dead if he could not work. Which I can say this - I guarantee you will not find many out there like that. Even the emergency room doctor that treated him could not believe it when Louis asked if he could return to work the same day he was hurt!

So, I will be taking care of personal issues tomorrow morning - but will be working in Fill My Account tomorrow afternoon. If your account is still there and you do not want it there then email me, buzz me I will take care of it.

But then when I do what will you have to complain about then?????????????????

lilshady picked up the discrepancies, I'm just quoting it so it can't be changed..

Louis and Lewis .. wtg, lilshady :)

lady_knight

4th May 2003, 10:56

i am sorry that you husband was injured. but it really does not have naything to do with the issues at hand. i for one know what real life is believe me. i too am very busy doing advocacy work is more or less a 24 hr job what with following legislation, talking to consumers online and getting everyone organized for political campaigns and demonsration rallies. not to mention handling the press pool and all that goes with that lol. but it does not mean i can't take the time to do my gptr programs and post when i feel a program has gone way too far. you are right about one thing and that is your man is a rare breed. but i think you are way off track as the only thing i have posted about ebay complaints it about sarsons complaint. i have seen his proof about not getting referrals but where is your proof that he is lying like you say? and as fot the spam complaints we have every right to email the host and she has asked to let her know if it happens again. cynthia is not telling everyone that they are dragging other gptr into a nightmare of server overlaod. in fact i have been watching all the programs hosted on lucicity hosting and they are all running as fast as the always do. so drop that crap about us bringing down other gptr's as it's total b.s. you tell people to block the emails and that will bring down the server faster than a few short emails asking for your spam to stop as your emails are for more kb than any of our spam complaints are. i for one refuse to block you and hurt cynthia's hosting company it's your job to take care of this not hers or ours anymore. i unsubbed twice as instructed and the third time cynthia told you to remove me. oh and ty for promptly removing me.

Originally posted by evelynturner
Evelyn did not put anyone back in the database they were there ALL the time the data table and the user table were just not talking to each other properly!!!! I think that has been explained more than once.

NOW - bulldog if you will send me your user anme I will delete you right now you can im me at yahoo turner28 I am online right now waiting for it.

BUT at least we do agree on 1 thing - the host issue.

In the mailing I sent out today I had spent a good deal of time addressing these issues with thost - neither of us have done a backup since the non communication of the tables was discovered - so we do not know why accounts are reappearing - however the sign up date on lady knight's did show a very recent one as if she had rejoined.

We are looking into the problem though.

By bouncing emails yes the server gets overloaded and other sites will be affected.

By spam complaints - that too affect the host as well.

What those members are doing is dragging in other innocent sites that have nothing to do with what is going on - but will suffer because of it if they continue doing it.

Is that what everyone wanted - to affect so many GPT program that you basically cut your own earning throat?

You anger is towards me - keep it that way - do not cause other sites to suffer because of your anger with me. I did not drag a single other webmaster in by name - nor did I drag in other programs by name - but by causing trouble for the host the names of the affected programs will soon be known because of downtime.

You say I am the evil one that I have created all this - well ask yourselves this - when you tried to log in how many of you saw - USER NOT found- and just created a second account?

OR - assumed that you were deleted and went on about everything without checking the lost password function to be sure?

Do you know how many "I Can't Log In" emails I get each day? Quite a few, when I have repeatedly explained how to retrieve the info.

Those emails do not bother me - I know that we get on the average of 50 - 100 paid mails each day and we cannot possibly read each and every one of them - no problem there.

But to start involving other sites - yeah now that will get me riled up. 1 person started this thread and it went snowballing from there - fine - as I said before your anger is with ME not with the other sites on the same server as mine - remember that when you are responding and complaining.

How do you think those webmasters will feel when your complaints start affecting their sites?

Been a little selfish lately, thinking only of self and not how your actions have affected others?

It is like I said in another post - due to the people here in the beginning basically DEMANDING that I drop everything and make their accounts right - I think you owe the members of 1st Profit an apology because I have been trying to correct these problems and put 1st Profit on hold. The members there have been very gracious, patient and understanding which is WAY more than I can say for some of you here. You could take lessons from them for sure.

Considering some of them have waited almost 2 months for me to get their accounts straight. What you have done here disgusts me. It is CHILDISH - SELFISH - SELF SERVING among many other things I am really too tired to say.

I would have to ask this of some of you - when you have a disagreement with your significant other - do you drag half the neighborhood into it? Do you involve inocent people who have no idea what is going on or probably don't even care?

Same thing here - you are about to affect innocent sites that you may or may not be a member of. You stand to seriously affect those sites and what do you care?

This is bash Fill My Account right? Well drag them in if it pleases you but I will not be a party to it.

Bulldog - get your user name to me I will delete you tonight.

zfreaky

4th May 2003, 18:38

from travelrn59:
oh never mind you're not bright enough to understand zfreaky

From bulldog:

If some people find reading differing opinions and experiences too hard to deal with, I guess they can resort to personal attacks and foul language.

Well you better get your friend not to stoop to my level or we could be mixed up when ppl read our posts.

Et puis Bulldog, il se peut que je ne m'exprime pas la perfection en anglais car ma langue maternelle est le fran ais but at least I try to do my best making myself clear using the bit of english I know of.

Sorry if it disturbs you.

bulldog10

6th May 2003, 07:03

Originally posted by evelynturner
What would you know about using someone other than how you are trying to use me??

FYI - she volunteered to help and is being PAID for that help.

The only "whiners" I see are those who continuously post the same sad song over and ober again.

You whine because you can't log in - so I fix it now you can - so you whine about that too!!

You say I can't stay with a topic?? Look at the posts - I think I have been pretty consistent here. I address one issue and you start whining about another one.

Now you are whining saying I am using FRYSKYS2001.

Well, she is a grown adult and can tell you herself how she feels about it.

She got banned because she posted a quote from me and someone thought she was me.

I don't know why I even bother to answer this dribble because you will just find something else to whine about.

preserving this

nadiaasoma

11th May 2003, 01:18

Didn't feel welcome anyway since I don't live in an English
speaking country.

Marian

bulldog10

11th May 2003, 02:40

Originally posted by zfreaky

Well you better get your friend not to stoop to my level or we could be mixed up when ppl read our posts.

Et puis Bulldog, il se peut que je ne m'exprime pas la perfection en anglais car ma langue maternelle est le fran ais but at least I try to do my best making myself clear using the bit of english I know of.

Sorry if it disturbs you.

That person is no more my "friend" than you are, was just another person expressing their opinion.

But, since ET's last post in the other thread concerning FMA, I better understand where you are coming from, z.. you're hired help, it all makes sense now :)

'nuf said

Freeme

20th May 2003, 14:47

WooHooo! Lookie who paid me!!! yea! Thanks Evelyn

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You've Got Cash!

Click Buxx just sent you money with PayPal.

Click Buxx is a Verified buyer.

Payment Details

Amount: $15.00

Transaction ID: 0D7565781Y480002D

Subject: Fill My Account PayOut

Note: YOU ARE THE VERY FIRST MEMBER to reach payout since I bought the site - congratulations!!!

Thanks for being a member

Webmaster

Evelyn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

nadiaasoma

22nd May 2003, 01:39

LOL

zfreaky

7th June 2003, 21:42

What a great news to hear about Turner's programs.

her programs just won a design award!!!

here is the link for you to see.

Award winning design

You are part of it too, cause if it wasn't for all the nice publicity you brought the programs for free by ranting about them, we wouldn,t have had this much traffic

Thanks to you all

and about to cash out at FMA and clickbuxx and surforhits and clickingmoney4u and just cashed out at 1st profit, again ;)

Poncer

7th June 2003, 22:24

I don't like ClixBux Design. I don't know why it won, but the judges must be blind about that program's design.

Freeme

8th June 2003, 19:27

Hey! Just got paid again! Woohoo! Thanks again Evelyn!

Payment Received (ID #0M026022WX4899912)

Name:
Click Buxx (The sender of this payment is Verified)
Email:
webmaster@clickbuxx.com
Email Address That Payment Was Sent to:

lpeterson@sbcglobal.net

Business Contact Information:

Business URL: http://www.ClickBuxx.com
Customer Service Email: turner28@yahoo.com

Total Amount:
15.00

Date:
Jun 6, 2003
Time:
9:13:12
Status:
Completed

Subject:
Fill My Account Payout
Note:
You have been paid!!!!

Shipping Address

No Address Provided

Payment Type:
Instant

evelynturner

8th June 2003, 20:14

I guess they have to eat their words now - which one of their programs can you earn $15.00 in a month's time with so few referrals to help you?

I promised a great site and I think that is what we have. Wouldn't you agree freeme?

Thanks again for posting that I think the ones who think so little of me are seeing the real me now.

ET - and I don't like reese pieces

fryskys2001

8th June 2003, 22:58

Originally posted by Poncer
I don't like ClixBux Design. I don't know why it won, but the judges must be blind about that program's design.

Come on poncer you are entitlle to your own taste it does not mean other that if you have no taste every one is like you of course clickbuxx is not one of my favorite design of the six site but none the less it is a good one \
so close your green eyes monster and step aside

fryskys2001

8th June 2003, 23:02

Originally posted by evelynturner
I guess they have to eat their words now - which one of their programs can you earn $15.00 in a month's time with so few referrals to help you?

I promised a great site and I think that is what we have. Wouldn't you agree freeme?

Thanks again for posting that I think the ones who think so little of me are seeing the real me now.

ET - and I don't like reese pieces

hey evelyn I have cashout more then 15.00 this month 16.50 plus I have now enough to cashotu another 10.00 no tnad for a site people wanted to close

You have directly earned: $ 2.4008
You have earned from your Downline: $ 14.2235
Your account balance after all transactions: $ 10.8743
You have directly earned: 10,054 Points
You have earned from your Downline: 10,240 Points
Total available points after all transactions: 2,294 Points
Cash Debits
auction payment $16.5000
Total Cash Debits: $ 16.5000

Freeme

9th June 2003, 07:59

Originally posted by evelynturner
I guess they have to eat their words now - which one of their programs can you earn $15.00 in a month's time with so few referrals to help you?

I promised a great site and I think that is what we have. Wouldn't you agree freeme?

Thanks again for posting that I think the ones who think so little of me are seeing the real me now.

ET - and I don't like reese pieces

I absolutely agree Evelyn! The emails pay great, the PTC section is always loaded, the auctions are fantastic, and now a brand new forum for support. And that is just the member benefits.

Advertising prices are awesome and you have very responsive members. Everybody wins!

All the complainers can just eat crow....I'm going shopping!

Poncer

10th June 2003, 00:58

That is enough. It seems the same people are praising Evelyn so many times to make her look great. She is not 100% even when she deleted her database. Okay, you all are treating Evelyn like a god, and bowing to her doing her favors. Some people will not like her and her programs because of a certain few who keeps praising her all the time which gets tiresom at times.

fryskys2001

10th June 2003, 11:30

Freeme

11th June 2003, 10:14

Originally posted by Poncer
That is enough. It seems the same people are praising Evelyn so many times to make her look great. She is not 100% even when she deleted her database. Okay, you all are treating Evelyn like a god, and bowing to her doing her favors. Some people will not like her and her programs because of a certain few who keeps praising her all the time which gets tiresom at times.

No David, WE have had enough. Enough of you. I used to feel sorry for you because every time you made a post in any forum people would just start jumping all over you. Obviously, you are some kind of masochist because you turn everything into a big drama.

We are posting about Fill My Account because we have been paid, we have gotten good results from our advertising and have been treated professionally by the webmaster. Just like every other person in the gptr industry does when they get good results. However, because we are praising a site that has had bad reviews before, we are getting crapped on?

Nobody has treated her like a god and I havent done any favors for her other than clicking links but that is not really a favor since I do that for all the programs that I am in. Come to think of it, I believe that I have posted about almost every program that has EVER paid me or given good results with advertising. And, *shock*, have written a few sites personally to praise them on things that I am pleased with.

And you, Poncer, have a lot of nerve to be complaining about people posting praise over and over about certain programs. Need I remind you about all the Jay "cheers" that you have come up with over the course of the year? Jay has crapped on you many times yet that never stopped you from posting and telling people to be patient and understanding and...blah...blah...blah.

My opinion is my opinion and I am free to express it anywhere and anytime I please and however many times I feel like doing it. If you dont want to hear about it, quit reading the threads and get a life.

fryskys2001

11th June 2003, 18:46

Originally posted by Freeme

No David, WE have had enough. Enough of you. I used to feel sorry for you because every time you made a post in any forum people would just start jumping all over you. Obviously, you are some kind of masochist because you turn everything into a big drama.

We are posting about Fill My Account because we have been paid, we have gotten good results from our advertising and have been treated professionally by the webmaster. Just like every other person in the gptr industry does when they get good results. However, because we are praising a site that has had bad reviews before, we are getting crapped on?

Nobody has treated her like a god and I havent done any favors for her other than clicking links but that is not really a favor since I do that for all the programs that I am in. Come to think of it, I believe that I have posted about almost every program that has EVER paid me or given good results with advertising. And, *shock*, have written a few sites personally to praise them on things that I am pleased with.

And you, Poncer, have a lot of nerve to be complaining about people posting praise over and over about certain programs. Need I remind you about all the Jay "cheers" that you have come up with over the course of the year? Jay has crapped on you many times yet that never stopped you from posting and telling people to be patient and understanding and...blah...blah...blah.

My opinion is my opinion and I am free to express it anywhere and anytime I please and however many times I feel like doing it. If you dont want to hear about it, quit reading the threads and get a life.

Thank you very much for I coudl not have said it the way you did but my taught were exactly like your's and yes I do agree poncer get a life or stop coming in those forum thye are a danger to your mind
yes it may be the same poeple who praise but look who keep bash and complaining it is just the same group for all the program so it is time to let go her program are on a good road and we do get good service and good earning you should try them yourself maybe you change your mind

bulldog10

11th June 2003, 19:34

Originally posted by fryskys2001

Thank you very much for I coudl not have said it the way you did but my taught were exactly like your's and yes I do agree poncer get a life or stop coming in those forum thye are a danger to your mind
yes it may be the same poeple who praise but look who keep bash and complaining it is just the same group for all the program so it is time to let go her program are on a good road and we do get good service and good earning you should try them yourself maybe you change your mind

You have the nerve to tell him to get a life when what do you do ?? Run here and post to defend ET, geez .. oh, that's right, you're PAID help, PAID to post here!

nadiaasoma

11th June 2003, 23:33

Originally posted by Freeme

No David, WE have had enough. Enough of you. I used to feel sorry for you because every time you made a post in any forum people would just start jumping all over you. Obviously, you are some kind of masochist because you turn everything into a big drama.

We are posting about Fill My Account because we have been paid, we have gotten good results from our advertising and have been treated professionally by the webmaster. Just like every other person in the gptr industry does when they get good results. However, because we are praising a site that has had bad reviews before, we are getting crapped on?

Nobody has treated her like a god and I havent done any favors for her other than clicking links but that is not really a favor since I do that for all the programs that I am in. Come to think of it, I believe that I have posted about almost every program that has EVER paid me or given good results with advertising. And, *shock*, have written a few sites personally to praise them on things that I am pleased with.

And you, Poncer, have a lot of nerve to be complaining about people posting praise over and over about certain programs. Need I remind you about all the Jay "cheers" that you have come up with over the course of the year? Jay has crapped on you many times yet that never stopped you from posting and telling people to be patient and understanding and...blah...blah...blah.

My opinion is my opinion and I am free to express it anywhere and anytime I please and however many times I feel like doing it. If you dont want to hear about it, quit reading the threads and get a life.

Get real!

That's not an opinion, that's crawling for a programowner!

Poncer has a mind of his own and is an example for all of us.
You are living in the past.

Marian