FreeGasMoneyOnline

[Seraph]

FGMO has been involved in some rather fraudulent activities lately, and I'd liek to call for their boycott. First off, any GPT site owner/member knows the golden rule about non incentives: Dont Run Them. FGMO has tried to get around this by posting them on their site, but redirecting them to a separate site so that they are "disguised". This is a fraudulent attempt to get the high payouts of the NIs without getting caught for running them on their GPT site.

Secondly...their new site was the last straw. I just heard they opened GPTEmailAddys. This is also major fraud, as it encourages people to use disposable email addresses to complete offers, therefore entering fake information.

Fraudulent owners such as this are the reason why the industry is doing so badly. Please, help with the boycotting of this site so that the truly honest owners can have a chance!

[younggram]

Thank You Seraph for this post! I will be warning my members today on my forum and in my daily email that this is NOT allowed.
The thing that upsets me here is our members "innocently" could do this thinking it is ok.. when in fact it is not. Therefore not only getting my members in trouble, but my site that I would darn hard on in trouble as well.

[Jennifer72]

I just sent an email to my members and sent them this link for more info.

Uggg...

[dealbarbie]

I have also updated my fraud policy & notified members of the update.

[SunnySideCash]

Hello all,

Below is the TOS and FAQ section of my site that may help site owners inform their members. Please feel free to use any or all of this post on your site.

Thanks

Sunny
Admin
SunnySideCash.Com

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Fraud Policy

SunnySideCash takes the act of committing fraud against ourselves, our affiliates and their associates a serious violation of our terms and conditions.

This site implements several fraud deterrent systems in order to protect the interests of the advertisers, affiliates and our members. We currently have a state issued picture id, email and telephone verification system in place. In addition, the advertisers and affiliates also use several fraud deterrent systems and routinely provide us with reports of suspected fraudulent users.

Examples of fraudulent member activity may include:

1. Having more than one “1” account per household.
2. Signing up for the site using fake information
2. Misrepresenting their age and/or being under the age of “18”.
3. Having more than “1” account on the same IP address.
4. Using an internet connection that uses a proxy server.
5. Sharing a PayPal or other Online Banking account.
6. Using fake, temporary or disposable E-mail Addresses to complete offers.
7. Teaching other members to commit fraud.
8. Using “Auto Fill” or other forms of software to complete offers.
9. Repeating the same offer on this site or any other website.
10. Immediately canceling a trial offer or software download.
11. Multiple signups from the same computer, IP or physical address.
12. Completed offers which were not open to their country.

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Main > RULES & REGULATIONS

You “May Not” use fake & temporary E-mail Addresses.

This includes using disposable, single use & temporary emails addresses (such as Yahoo Private, Fish Fuse, Dodgit, GPTEmailAddys, etc). If you are not sure if your email address is acceptable, please contact the staff before you use it.

You must also keep your email account active (no bouncing) in the event an advertiser has any questions regarding an offer or trial you completed.

Please make sure you check on a regular basis your e-mail’s inbox and spam folders for any messages.

[Seraph]

I see that she is attempting to change her FAQ as fast as possible with the onset of this revelation. Doesn't change the fact she still is:

1) Offering an obviously fraudulent means for email accounts. No matter what way you word it, she still has one image on her site that sums it up "Temporary. Disposable."

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/Seraph-chan/fwd-2-jpg.jpg

2) She is still running NIs via a dummy site.

[gptcashcow]

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About gptEmailAddys.com

Postby Bex on Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:07 pm
What is gptEmailAddys?
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whathappensinvegas@winningfreestuff.com
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Now, you simply use your 10 fresh email addresses to complete offers on GPT sites. All the emails advertisers send to these email addresses will just forward to the email address you provided.

Works like a charm! You only have to login to that one email account to get your email messages, confirmation emails, etc...

Finally, you can spend your valuable time making money on GPT sites by completing offers instead of trying to find, create, forward and manage a zillion different free email address accounts!

Go to gptEmailAddys.com:
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Becky
FGMO Administrator
http://www.FreeGasMoneyOnline.com


This is a explanation of the new email site from fgmo forum. I find this very deceiving to the members. This only hurts them as it could possibly hurt them and their reputation with advertisers etc. Not to mention have many advertisers pull offers due to fraudulent leads. I have sent a email to my members as well asking them not to use this service.

[rachelclark91]

I always heard good of this one too :\

[Seraph]

I hear she has sent out an email, and a member of her site has been so kind as to forward me a copy. :)

From: Admin
Subject: Boycott FGMO?
Date: 1/14/2009 2:36 PM
Message:
Good Afternoon!

FYI: Just thought you should all know:

Accusations based on assumptions and without justification are just stupid, childish and amateur!

Some other site owner/s and/or people have been going around accusingme of so-called "fraudulent" activities and are calling for some kindof "boycott".
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=104703#post104703

Although these bogus accusations are laughable and aren't worthy of myattention or response, I thought I'd better go ahead and nip this stuffin-the-butt before it gets out of hand.
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First of all, just because other people don't understand and/or knowhow to do some of things I have experience and skills in doing doesn'tmake it fraudulent.

I've been accused of running non-incent offers through my site using re-direct links that are "disguised".

First of all, I don't run any offers on my site that aren't approvedfor incentive. Furthermore, agreements I have with my affiliatenetworks to run third-party ads are frankly not other people'sbusiness. Again, just because they don't understand some of the thingsI do doesn't make those things wrong or fraudulent. Furthermore, I canre-direct and run links by and through any site I choose.

Perhaps these site owners and/or people should worry more about runningand managing their own site and business than worrying about theperceived threat I obviously seem to be to them.
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Second, these same people have accused that my new site:gptEmailAddys.com site encourages fraud by getting people to enter fakeinformation.

This is plain nonsense. gptEmailAddys.com is an email forwardingservice - period! Just like gmail, yahoo, etc... all have forwardingservices when you use their email addresses.

If people are going to act like they don't know that members of GPTsites don't sign up for zillions of free web-based email accountsthrough gmail, yahoo, etc... then they are simply not being honest.

I can develop, run and operate any kind of website I like. Justbecause I now offer and run one of the zillions of email forwardingsolutions on the Internet - doesn't make it fraudulent.

Members who sign up for gptEmailAddys.com must use a valid anddeliverable email address and prove that it is so by receiving aconfirmation and activation email. How is this fraud or how does thisencourage fraud? Furthermore, since this is a paid service people getto decide how they want to use their email addresses and for how long.

Forwarding email addresses are completely legal, legit and unbelievably common.

Boy, I didn't realize how much attention other people were paying to little ole me.

None-the-less and until further notice, I've removed any/all referenceof gptEmailAddys.com from FreeGasMoneyOnline.com and vice versa. Sorryfolks, I had no idea I was going to be attacked by trying to provide ahelpful email solution.

If you have any questions or concerns, please gimme a holler! I'mtrying to run and honest and straight-up site over here. I, for one,certainly don't have the time or inclination to go around worryingabout what other site owners and people are doing and/or not doing. But, lucky for me they all do ;)

Now, if you'd like to jump on the bandwagon and boycott me too here's a helpful link for you:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=104703#post104703
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Buckle-up and Drive!

Becky Rutledge
FGMO Administrator
http://www.freegasmoneyonline.com
support@freegasmoneyonline.com

Now one question....going to point out something about the Nonincentives she is running. First off, no network anymore "works things out" so that a GPT can run NIs. It's suicide for them. Secondly, if she has nothing to hide with these offers, then why have them go to a different site before pulling up the offer? If they're so legit, run them directly.

The excuses about GPTEmails is a flat out lie. She KNEW she was making a disposable email service. Why even go so far as to label it such and to have it that accounts only lasted 30 days at most? (Yes, she's changed it now to cover her butt. To a year. Still disposable.)

She compares herself to Yahoo, Gmail, and the like. When you sign up, you are NOT getting your own single, PERMANENT email address....you are getting a bunch of quick emails that only last so long....just so you can use them for offers and then dump them. I've had my Yahoo email for 8 years now and counting....interesting since by comparing herself to them she should thereby make the emails all permanent.

Again...all I have to say is this:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/Seraph-chan/darning_evidence.png

[kelbel39]

I thought this site was ok, too- what a disappointment. Thanks for the info, everyone. Sending a notice to my members about this as well.

[gptcashcow]

Perhaps we site owners, worry about our future in the gpt industry!
Perhaps we worry affiliates will black list a member at no fault of their own.
Perhaps MaxBounty might not like the non incent being disguised.
Is it fgmo that has a account with maxbounty or is it paylinkpal.com

Furthermore I dont like being called stupid as you so mildly stated.

If there is nothing to hide and you are doing no wrong why start changing things once you are called out?

Perhaps I better be quiet from now on. My mouth is gonna overload my fingers.

[Seraph]

Furthermore I dont like being called stupid as you so mildly stated.


I think she was calling *me* stupid... <_<

[surveylove.com]

The people who have been doing offers on this site know that it is one of the most honest in the business. I've been a member of quite a few sites now and by far FGMO has been the best yet.

Becky is new to the GPT industry and I suppose this has taught her one of the not so obvious rules of the industry. She is taking the proper steps to follow up with the information.

gptboycott is about protecting the GPT'er and making sure they get paid. FGMO will pay them, and therefore not deserving of a boycott.

[Seraph]

The people who have been doing offers on this site know that it is one of the most honest in the business. I've been a member of quite a few sites now and by far FGMO has been the best yet.

Becky is new to the GPT industry and I suppose this has taught her one of the not so obvious rules of the industry. She is taking the proper steps to follow up with the information.

gptboycott is about protecting the GPT'er and making sure they get paid. FGMO will pay them, and therefore not deserving of a boycott.
I beg to differ.

(A...4...)
Sorry, but you are a bit biased, being a forum moderator for her. You are of course going to defend her and not even consider the ramifications of what she's doing. After all, its your money at stake.

(A....5)
If she is new, and you are going to try and use that to defend her...then why does she declare her vast experience and knowledge in these affairs and call others "stupid and childish".

(A...6...)
Proper steps? She tried to cover her butt, but refuses to change her ways completely.

(A....7)
GPTB is here to protect people from bad sites, period. As proven by bux.to...a site can have great potential, and then go downhill after fraud is exposed. With her attitude and flagrant disregard for rules, I don't see the site doing well at ALL. Plus, you seem to not care about the fact that people can be blacklisted from aff. networks by following her directions (e.g., do this NI here, use these disposable emails from me!)

I'm sorry, I do believe I've sunk your battleship. :(

[surveylove.com]

I beg to differ.

(A...4...)
Sorry, but you are a bit biased, being a forum moderator for her. You are of course going to defend her and not even consider the ramifications of what she's doing. After all, its your money at stake.

I'm not a moderator. I am merely an active member. I've been an active member at treasuretrooper for example, and helped many people there as well, but that doesn't make me a moderator there as well. Here, I've caught you in a deliberate lie. Why do you have to lie to make your point?

(A....5)
If she is new, and you are going to try and use that to defend her...then why does she declare her vast experience and knowledge in these affairs and call others "stupid and childish".

Did you confront her about these issues before trying to blackball her. You are not being mature or professional about it, I believe she meant to say that the behavior was stupid, and not you personally, but w/e, can't speak for her.

(A...6...)
Proper steps? She tried to cover her butt, but refuses to change her ways completely.

She's taken the proper steps. How has she not changed behavior that the industry in general frowns on, speaking specifically about the email forwarding service?

(A....7)
GPTB is here to protect people from bad sites, period. As proven by bux.to...a site can have great potential, and then go downhill after fraud is exposed. With her attitude and flagrant disregard for rules, I don't see the site doing well at ALL. Plus, you seem to not care about the fact that people can be blacklisted from aff. networks by following her directions (e.g., do this NI here, use these disposable emails from me!)

For using multiple emails, no. Again, she has corrected this issue.

I'm sorry, I do believe I've sunk your battleship.

I believe you are not sorry, and you are acting childishly, I will not engage in an argument with you. I've already caught you in one lie, and a very childish "battleship" joke, I don't think there is much to gain by me arguing with you

[Seraph]

You definitely were a moderator at some point. I have been told this many times in the past AND just now by people confirming my post. Sorry. :P Why would *you* lie?

No, why would I? She obviously knew what she was doing. As she even stated in her emails, she knew what she was doing.

What proper steps? She's STILL running a site that's obviously for cheating offers. :P

No, no, no. Affiliate networks will ban people for ALL sorts of stuff that they find. If they find that they've been using her email service...banned. If they find that the NIs were completed fraudulently in *any* manner....that gets people in trouble too. There was an uproar over the same thing a looooong time ago.

No, not really sorry....it's ridiculous that you are defending someone with such a sorry attitude and complete disregard and lack of respect for the industry she's in. She's one of the people tearing it down, and you don't care because it's your favorite site and you have money invested.

Dang, it's the GPTFreebies thing all over again, isn't it? :D

[surveylove.com]

I was never a moderator.

you are either lying or do not know what you talking about. Either way, doesn't bode well for your witness.

I was never a moderator on any GPT site, period. with my hand on biblegateway.net I promise you that. If I did get moderator privs, I wasn't notified about it. If you persist with this lie, then you are indeed behaving childishly and stupidly, quite deliberately.

I think proudmama and jkopinion are the only other moderators besides Becky. The site is rather new and up until a month or two ago I wasn't very active since I was trying to reach the "gas" incentive on cashcrate.

[gptcashcow]

I think the issue at hand is the fact that not only members but site owners can be affected by current behavior of sites like fgmo.
It can get members blacklisted, It can decrease the number of offers we have available etc. When advertisers start getting hits like crazy with scrub email addys well they exceed their budget and the offers are gone. Only to have it come back on the member.

If you are not a mod o.k. But you are a very active member which your name and ip could very well soon turn up on that blacklist or your leads reversed. Would that be your fault? Probably not. Do they care? Probably not.

I was under the impression that dantheman777, jkopinion and proudmama0106 were all 3 mods. So if you were not I stand corrected.

And if said site owner knows so much more than us stupid ones, she would know what she is doing is wrong. Paint the picture how you will but members are the ones going to get hurt on this one.

[Seraph]

I'm not lying....I was told by several people that you were a moderator for a short time on her forum. <shrug> What, believing my friends is childish and stupid? Me oh my what a horrible person I've been! D: If they were wrong, that's them. maybe you *were* given mod privs and didn't know it. Happened to me on a site before. :P

Your constant chanting of the mantra "childish and stupid" doesn't bode well for you either. Don't you have your own opinion and not just the regurgitated seconds from her email? Honestly...

I find it interesting though, that you are now completely sidestepping the fact that it's totally obvious she's in the wrong here.

[surveylove.com]

yes, you do stand corrected.

is my money at stake, sure. I'm in the lead for a 200$ bonus, I have 100$ pending for next months payment.

I just think you guys are making a big deal out of assassinating her character, rather than simply filing a grievance and letting gptboycott deal with it like they do with the site owner. If she did something wrong, that's bad, but if she corrects it and moves on, then why blacklist her? Put her on the watch list or something if it's warranted, heck, even cashcrate was on the watch list, and it's a pretty darn good site.

[surveylove.com]

I'm not lying....I was told by several people that you were a moderator for a short time on her forum. <shrug> What, believing my friends is childish and stupid? Me oh my what a horrible person I've been! D: If they were wrong, that's them. maybe you *were* given mod privs and didn't know it. Happened to me on a site before. :P

Your constant chanting of the mantra "childish and stupid" doesn't bode well for you either. Don't you have your own opinion and not just the regurgitated seconds from her email? Honestly...

I find it interesting though, that you are now completely sidestepping the fact that it's totally obvious she's in the wrong here.

Obviously, since the statement was that dantheman777 was a moderator, that's me folks, is a false statement, always has been, and there is no evidence to back up that claim, you should have asked your friends for evidence rather than blindly accept that. I just told her a few minutes ago "do not make me a moderator"... just to keep that fact clear, just in case she was thinking about it.

Did she do something wrong? No wronger than registering a yahoo account just to do offers with. deleting the emails is a mistake though, I guess I could have told her not to delete them, but I never thought of it, since many people delete there yahoo emails when they are done with them so other people can have those handles.
As for the brandarama/paylinkpal thing... I think she is staff on paylinkpal.... so she can post her own offers on her own site I would think... I don't know if she is staff there, but her picture and article are on the front page...
as for the NI thing, I don't know if that's the same as the brandarama/paylinkpal thing or not... maybe there's a post on here that explains that better? point is, she's been notified (although I don't think it was handled right as her intent was not to make money at the expense of hurting members) she's correcting it. did she get defensive about it? yea. she called you stupid. I get mad when people call me stupid too, but eventually I get over it.

:stupid:

[gptcashcow]

I knew you were dantheman777 from a email I received in my inbox from you at fgmo. Which also stated that if I was just there to do ptc etc I was wasting my time. Cause unless I did 5.00 in offers per site terms I couldnt get paid. If you dont remember this email I can post it for you.
Which was one reason why I didnt start referring there.
Are you one of the ones that tested the system she was referring to? If so I hope your leads dont come back on you. That is alot of money you are in the running for.
This is not a bash contest and I honestly dont see it as such. But being called stupid by someone who doesnt exactly know the ropes or portrays they do and then say they dont, doesnt settle well with me.
I dont even know all the ropes, I learn something new everyday. But I would never try to call the ones who have taught me what I have learned, stupid, in so many words.

[proudmama0106]

Ok here goes my 2 cents, and I know some are going to bash me b/c yes I AM THE FORUM MOD, so what? I don't want to be scammed no more than any other person. I think FGMO is still a great site, as for the offers bra thru paylinkpal, the aff. mgr contacted her and asked her to run them. So what's wrong with that? you have no proof of running "NI" offers. So I think you should be worried about the sites that really are running them. And as far as gptemailaddys.com, if you have an issue with that, then deal with it, not fgmo, fgmo is an honest and legit site, and I love doing offers on there. I'm a member of a few sites, and don't do much on b/c I can't get anything to approve in a timely manner, at least Becky's offers approve, she doesn't have all these bogus offers that never credit for ANYONE.
The e-mail addy site, is no different that any other e-mail site, just this away it's new and fresh domains, and the members don't have to take 30 annoying minutes to create 1 e-mail addy, she doesn't for them within minutes. And eventually, even yahoo's e-mail addys start to bouncy back emails once they either reach a quota, or the user doesn't log in for a certain amt of time, I've had that to happen on my personal e-mail accts. So now tell me, what is the difference?!?!

I think everyone just needs to drop it, and let the affs and other ppl who handle this type of stuff, do their investagating or whatever, and handle it, IF needed to be handled, and stop bad mouthing an GREAT AND HONEST SITE, FREEGASMONEYONLINE (FGMO)

[surveylove.com]

hey gptcashcow, if any of my offers bounce back, I'll let y'all know.

to date, they haven't, and like I say, I've done quite a few this month, and a pretty good amount last month.

deleting the emails is probably a bad idea, and I imagine that will be corrected, or the emailaddy site just abandoned for the time being. Seraph started the post, so I doubt she was calling you stupid, but that's between y'all.

So yes, you must do offers/surveys to get paid, same as any GPT site. The PTC is simply just considered a bonus there... I suppose there are some other GPT sites like that. I wasn't trying to be rude, I was making money off of people clicking them, which is great, but they were wasting there time, which is bad, and eventually they would get pretty mad at me as there referrer, and the site.

again, I already stated I am dantheman777, who is not a moderator at FGMO but an active member, so I don't see where you are going with this really. I never was a moderator, whoever gave you that info isn't reliable because they don't pay attention to details and assume stuff, period.

[surveylove.com]

I'm not lying....I was told by several people that you were a moderator for a short time on her forum. <shrug> What, believing my friends is childish and stupid? Me oh my what a horrible person I've been! D: If they were wrong, that's them. maybe you *were* given mod privs and didn't know it. Happened to me on a site before. :P

Your constant chanting of the mantra "childish and stupid" doesn't bode well for you either. Don't you have your own opinion and not just the regurgitated seconds from her email? Honestly...

I find it interesting though, that you are now completely sidestepping the fact that it's totally obvious she's in the wrong here.

I'm sorry, but how many people is several, since it's a bold face lie. Stating, they lied to you, you believed it, passed it on. Not that you made it up.

1? 2? 3?

[gptcashcow]

Ok here goes my 2 cents, and I know some are going to bash me b/c yes I AM THE FORUM MOD, so what? I don't want to be scammed no more than any other person. I think FGMO is still a great site, as for the offers bra thru paylinkpal, the aff. mgr contacted her and asked her to turn them. So what's wrong with that? you have no proof of running "NI" offers. So I think you should be worried about the sites that really are running them. And as far as gptemailaddys.com, if you have an issue with that, then deal with it, not fgmo, fgmo is an honest and legit site, and I love doing offers on there. I'm a member of a few sites, and don't do much on b/c I can't get anything to approve in a timely manner, at least Becky's offers approve, she doesn't have all these bogus offers that never credit for ANYONE.
The e-mail addy site, is no different that any other e-mail site, just this away it's new and fresh domains, and the members don't have to take 30 annoying minutes to create 1 e-mail addy, she doesn't for them within minutes. And eventually, even yahoo's e-mail addys start to bouncy back emails once they either reach a quota, or the user doesn't log in for a certain amt of time, I've had that to happen on my personal e-mail accts. So now tell me, what is the difference?!?!

I think everyone just needs to drop it, and let the affs and other ppl who handle this type of stuff, do their investagating or whatever, and handle it, IF needed to be handled, and stop bad mouthing an GREAT AND HONEST SITE, FREEGASMONEYONLINE (FGMO)


Proud,
The only issue I have is "the affiliate told her to turn them." Those offers were directing to paylinkpal.com which the owner of fgmo owns. Run the who is. So paylinkpal.com is considered a nonincent site. But she had them offered on fgmo and was incenting them. So in essence she was covering where the real lead was coming from. There is only one way to get to the bottom line of the issue and that is to email MaxBounty which is where she got them from and ask them if she was asked to turn them for incent on fgmo. That is gonna be the only way to get a truthful answer. I am not a publisher there or I would personally ask my am.

Then the fact that you say she makes the disposable emails for them. Has any other owner one time made email addresses for you? Not that I am aware of. As this just encourages fraud etc.

And your right the powers that be will handle it. But you have to understand that this is our business to. It is the gpt industry. We have to protect ourselves as well. And when stuff like this happens like I said advertisers will pull offers and then we will be left with nothing. And I dont know about you but I dont look forward to my business going belly up anytime soon.

[surveylove.com]

She isn't hiding that she owns paypallink...her face and article is on the front page...

[Seraph]

I'm sorry, but how many people is several, since it's a bold face lie. Stating, they lied to you, you believed it, passed it on. Not that you made it up.

1? 2? 3?

Lmao.

Wait, not four. Scratch that, three. The fourth actually said proudmama but mentioned you as a big roller there. Apologies.

[gptcashcow]

And as far as gptemailaddys.com, if you have an issue with that, then deal with it, not fgmo, fgmo is an honest and legit site, and I love doing offers on there.

oops, I was referring to gptemailaddys.com She is the owner therefore it is a fgmo thing.

[surveylove.com]

4, in that short time? or are you just completing my series? do you think "lmao" adds credibility to that?

Also, How can that many people get something so wrong? just assuming, that's how. hard to believe.

can they just simply do a search on the forum and see who the moderators are, or do they just assume. It's not that hard.

[surveylove.com]

Lmao.

Wait, not four. Scratch that, three. The fourth actually said proudmama but mentioned you as a big roller there. Apologies.

ok, noted, apologies reciprocated.

[proudmama0106]

I don't see why her making e-mail addys is a problem, at least you know they will be REAL ones and not FAKE like alot of ppl do use, and she has the control over them, weather to delete them 10 min. from now, or 10 yrs, and like yahoo/gmail or whatever, they are expire at some point, she has just thought of a new idea, and is running with it, I don't see why she should be smashed and ban for that. As for the supposed "NI" offers, I think that is an issue that will be answered and resolved by the proper ppl, and when they prove to be legit, I assume everyone that's accusing her of "NI" offers, will appolgize right? doubt it. But stop assuming something until you know for a fact, if you have "hunch" or "suspicion" by all means, let the approate ppl know, and dont just go around smash good, legit, and honest sites.

[gptcashcow]

If I am wrong I am woman enough to admit it. And I will offer an apology, IF I am wrong.

[rachelclark91]

I don't see why her making e-mail addys is a problem, at least you know they will be REAL ones and not FAKE like alot of ppl do use, and she has the control over them, weather to delete them 10 min. from now, or 10 yrs, and like yahoo/gmail or whatever, they are expire at some point, she has just thought of a new idea, and is running with it, I don't see why she should be smashed and ban for that. As for the supposed "NI" offers, I think that is an issue that will be answered and resolved by the proper ppl, and when they prove to be legit, I assume everyone that's accusing her of "NI" offers, will appolgize right? doubt it. But stop assuming something until you know for a fact, if you have "hunch" or "suspicion" by all means, let the approate ppl know, and dont just go around smash good, legit, and honest sites.

If the affiliates/advertisers have given this email website the thumbs up then no probs. But I'm guessing if they knew they wouldn't like the idea of "throw away" email address one little bit. It's obvious they don't want a weeks worth of a lead, yeah gmail/yahoo probably have an expiry but what after a few years of inactivity? There is a BIG difference. :\

[surveylove.com]

it appears they are assuming mal-intent. which can't be proven.

somehow the fact that I'm "dantheman" an active FGMO'er, which I already stated, makes me useless as a commentator about it. I already stated I was dantheman, an active user but not a moderator, but somehow by simply just stating the truth I've become less believable in there eyes.

If they really had the GPT'ers best interest at heart they would have just went to her and said, "you are doing this, this, and this. The affiliattes won't like this because... and this will affect everyone because..." instead, they are going about it this way, character assassination. Trying to paint the picture that I'm a moderator when I'm not... something that is factually clear, but maybe people just won't look into it, I dunno.

This is simply about blackballing competition, plain and simple. She's begun making steps to correct the things you've mentioned, obviuosly, she wasn't happy about it and ranted to her members, ok fine. if in deed she's done anything taboo as considered by the industry, she just found out about it, she'll think it over and regroup. attacking people and trying to run them out of business only helps a certain few people in the industry.
this is no big deal.
thanks for helping her correct it, no thank you for the way you handled it.

[surveylove.com]

If the affiliates/advertisers have given this email website the thumbs up then no probs. But I'm guessing if they knew they wouldn't like the idea of "throw away" email address one little bit. It's obvious they don't want a weeks worth of a lead, yeah gmail/yahoo probably have an expiry but what after a few years of inactivity? There is a BIG difference. :\

right. she hasn't really stated what she's exactly going to do about that, just that she's going to change it somehow to be more acceptable to the industry. I imagine she put a lot of time into the site, the fact that she's probably going to have to scratch it all together is probably a little disturbing to her. But people should at least give her time to digest the info and do the right thing before blackballing her over it.

[proudmama0106]

If the affiliates/advertisers have given this email website the thumbs up then no probs. But I'm guessing if they knew they wouldn't like the idea of "throw away" email address one little bit. It's obvious they don't want a weeks worth of a lead, yeah gmail/yahoo probably have an expiry but what after a few years of inactivity? There is a BIG difference. :\


Um.. no acutally I can go to an e-mail acct of mine right now on yahoo from one of my yahoo ID's and won't be able to log in b/c it's been about 2 mts since I logged in, I'll have to register it and all that. So no not "a few yrs"

[Seraph]

If the affiliates/advertisers have given this email website the thumbs up then no probs. But I'm guessing if they knew they wouldn't like the idea of "throw away" email address one little bit. It's obvious they don't want a weeks worth of a lead, yeah gmail/yahoo probably have an expiry but what after a few years of inactivity? There is a BIG difference. :\

Exactly, Rachel. All the affiliates who I have spoken to regarding this have been horrified by it, and then get quite annoyed.

I feel that I don't have the need to defend my actions....her site speaks for itself and that whole "what goes around, will bite ya in the butt" will occur here. :)

I mean, jeez. If she felt she was perfectly fine in all she did...why the sudden scramble to change her stuff?

Oh, right. Because it was fraud. :\

[Seraph]

Um.. no acutally I can go to an e-mail acct of mine right now on yahoo from one of my yahoo ID's and won't be able to log in b/c it's been about 2 mts since I logged in, I'll have to register it and all that. So no not "a few yrs"

That's kinda weird because I've got a few Yahoo accounts I haven't used since 2004 and I can still access them. :)

[proudmama0106]

That's kinda weird because I've got a few Yahoo accounts I haven't used since 2004 and I can still access them. :)

Yeah I can access them, but won't have any msg. and it gives you a msg that it's been inactive too long and all e-mail have been returned to sender, I'll be glad to go n log in to one and show ya what I mean...

[surveylove.com]

Exactly, Rachel. All the affiliates who I have spoken to regarding this have been horrified by it, and then get quite annoyed.

I feel that I don't have the need to defend my actions....her site speaks for itself and that whole "what goes around, will bite ya in the butt" will occur here. :)

I mean, jeez. If she felt she was perfectly fine in all she did...why the sudden scramble to change her stuff?

Oh, right. Because it was fraud. :\

scramble to change stuff? umm....
if you see that you might need to make some adjustments to your site to ease the minds of the industry your in, do you do it now, or wait a week to do it? again... assuming harmful intent.

[rachelclark91]

Well alls I know is that I personally made a yahoo a few years ago that was inactive as I prefer MSN and I still had mail a heck of a lot of junk included too :laugh:

[surveylove.com]

I got some that are inactive, but on the other hand, I got many that are fine years later.

big deal.

[proudmama0106]

ok is yahoo really the point here? dont think so, but I know when I try to log into old accts, they dont have anything in them. And it tells me i've been "inactive" too long, but whatever who cares... point is, you can have an email addy for too long and except it to be ok for every with you logging in, the quota still fills, AND E-MAILS BOUNCE BACK. Either way, all e-mail addys given, unless you log in every now n again, at some point, for whatever reason, affs. will have e-mails to bounce from offers! That is my point.

[rachelclark91]

Umm I think the point is that this site has been encouraging the use of throw away emails. Then as soon as affils/advertisers get beeped about it there gonna probably delete user accounts for "frauding" when it was them who encouraged it in the first place. Yeah he/she might not of known this was fraud but I doubt it. If she is going to reinvent this site I don't see how it's possible or why people would choose it over gmail etc. That is my point ;)

[proudmama0106]

scramble to change stuff? umm....
if you see that you might need to make some adjustments to your site to ease the minds of the industry your in, do you do it now, or wait a week to do it? again... assuming harmful intent.

I agree, this is a brand new site, there are bound to be changes and stuff when you first open a site... and you have to make the approate changes for whatever reason, rather it's to fix and error, change something you wasn't certain about, or to change something to make affs/members or whoever happy with what you've created... that's my opionion, just b/c she changed some stuff doesn't mean it was b/c she
"knew it was wrong and had to save her butt" if that was the case, woudn't she just delete it all together? wouldn't that make more sense? yea but what she's doing it no different from other yahoo domains, she just tells you up front what you are getting. And like surveylove mentioned earlier, we haven't had any issues on fraud, and bouncing emails or reversing offers.

[surveylove.com]

I'll stop emails that are deleted later. I was even going back and deleting some of my hotmail and yahoo ones, as well as the ones I made with my own url. I don't think affiliates really care if your email is permanent, people close emails all the time. generally after getting spammed.... like you get after doing offers.

other than that...

I'm seeing this is a dog eat dog slimy business here, if you're the new dog on the block you got work your way through the pecking order I guess.

[proudmama0106]

Just for References, for those who don't think FreeGasMoneyOnline (http://freegas.freegasmoneyonline.com/paidto/home.php) is legit and PAYING site... here's my latest proof..... muahaha! My oh My how I Love my money! :)

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr39/mommy0106/Untitled.jpg
& There are more where that came from!

[dealbarbie]

Can I inquire as to why you removed the date from your payment? Just curious as it caught my eye. Thanks!

[spygrrl007]

It seems to me that this thread was well thought out and co-conspired before being posted to the public at large. That is what my “mommy intuition” and “experiences in the “justice system” tells me.

Never before have I come out in this way on this forum- but I gotta say I am disgusted at the way rocks are being thrown at your neighbor’s house! If you really “cared” or wanted to “help”, wouldn’t you contact the admin first and get her take on your concerns with how she is running her household?

Personally these kinds of attacks remind me of “Survivor”… in which contestants will deceive, betray, and out their neighbors in exchange for status, prizes, wealth, and friends. I’m disgusted with these kinds of attacks, is anyone else here experiencing DeJavu? Does the whole “cash crate” thread ring a bell?

“Jeff Probst has said that the theme of the second half of the season is Good vs. Evil. Which Survivors do you think are part of the "good" and which ones constitute the "bad?"

My vote goes to FGMO as “good” based on my personal experience as a member there, as well as being a member to a few other reputable sites.

I am basing my vote on the integrity of the admin at FGMO- and the lack of integrity over the well scripted posts between some members here.

Anyone who states “The truth”… are speaking from their own world view, and merely talking about themselves. Anyone who states the facts, I suggest the readers to Google: “Lying with Statistics” before jumping on the “bandwagon GPT bashing brigade”.

As for me… My integrity is worth more to me than anything I could gain from losing it. I am proud not to be a card carrying member of this disgusting online drama club.

[Jennifer72]

Just for References, for those who don't think FreeGasMoneyOnline is legit and PAYING site... :)




I don't believe non payment was the basis for this thread... :\

[surveylove.com]

I don't believe non payment was the basis for this thread... :\

no it wasn't. I think pmm was posting that as a just in case issue. When you say "fraudulent", non-payment is the first thing that comes to mind.

[proudmama0106]

Can I inquire as to why you removed the date from your payment? Just curious as it caught my eye. Thanks!


Well if you MUST know... I b/c I was late getting my payment b/c I had to ask her to hold back b/c I was having some issues with my paypal acct. and just straighten them out like 2 or 3 days go, & didnt think that was really anyone biz... but I have nothing to hide so anyway. But if it will make ya happy I changed it and left the date... :)

[dealbarbie]

I wasn't asking you to change anything. Like I said I was just curious as it caught my eye when scrolling through the page. I wasn't saying you had anything to hide.

[proudmama0106]

I understand, and was just saying, I didn't want anyone to be thinking it was some kinda scheam or something, so I changed it, and like I said, was having paypal issues and just recv'ed the rest of my payment, and yea I know the thread wasn't started b/c of payment issues, but like surveylove said, i posted it b/c I dont want anyone thinking that fgmo doesn't pay, b/c when you heard "fraud" you think its them not paying, when that's not the issue what so ever! :)

[Seraph]

It seems to me that this thread was well thought out and co-conspired before being posted to the public at large. That is what my “mommy intuition” and “experiences in the “justice system” tells me.

Never before have I come out in this way on this forum- but I gotta say I am disgusted at the way rocks are being thrown at your neighbor’s house! If you really “cared” or wanted to “help”, wouldn’t you contact the admin first and get her take on your concerns with how she is running her household?

Personally these kinds of attacks remind me of “Survivor”… in which contestants will deceive, betray, and out their neighbors in exchange for status, prizes, wealth, and friends. I’m disgusted with these kinds of attacks, is anyone else here experiencing DeJavu? Does the whole “cash crate” thread ring a bell?

“Jeff Probst has said that the theme of the second half of the season is Good vs. Evil. Which Survivors do you think are part of the "good" and which ones constitute the "bad?"

My vote goes to FGMO as “good” based on my personal experience as a member there, as well as being a member to a few other reputable sites.

I am basing my vote on the integrity of the admin at FGMO- and the lack of integrity over the well scripted posts between some members here.

Anyone who states “The truth”… are speaking from their own world view, and merely talking about themselves. Anyone who states the facts, I suggest the readers to Google: “Lying with Statistics” before jumping on the “bandwagon GPT bashing brigade”.

As for me… My integrity is worth more to me than anything I could gain from losing it. I am proud not to be a card carrying member of this disgusting online drama club.

"Co-conspired"? Dear...it was just something I'd noticed happening over the course of a few weeks. Why would I contact her? What would YOU say ion that sort of a situation?

"Hi, but I noticed you are breaking your own rules by deliberately offering a disposable email service? Oh, and you're sneaking NI offers past advertisers by bouncing them off another website. Mind fixing that?"

Yeah, don't think that would work, hun, much as I wish that would for all the other sites who have been caught doing it. As you can see, she, when confronted, chose not to apologize or to repair the issues...she continued along, tried to cover up what she was doing, and insulted everyone who said anything about it. :P

As I've stated before....if the admin is so clean, and so "full of integrity"....then why would she obviously make what was a TEMPORARY, DISPOSABLE email service. It wasn't anything else. She knew it, and she still knows it. You can paint it up as pretty as you like, but she is trying to encourage the use of trash emails. She originally had it even termed that way...as you can see by her original images I was so lucky to catch before she changed them.

[bellestraker]

"Co-conspired"? Dear...it was just something I'd noticed happening over the course of a few weeks. Why would I contact her? What would YOU say ion that sort of a situation?

"Hi, but I noticed you are breaking your own rules by deliberately offering a disposable email service? Oh, and you're sneaking NI offers past advertisers by bouncing them off another website. Mind fixing that?"

Yeah, don't think that would work, hun, much as I wish that would for all the other sites who have been caught doing it. As you can see, she, when confronted, chose not to apologize or to repair the issues...she continued along, tried to cover up what she was doing, and insulted everyone who said anything about it. :P

.

That seems to be a pattern here....

Earlier Seraph says DEFINITELY surveylove.com is a mod and of course "s/he" is lying.






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You definitely were a moderator at some point. I have been told this many times in the past AND just now by people confirming my post. Sorry. :P Why would *you* lie?






surveylove says /he is not..
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I was never a moderator.

you are either lying or do not know what you talking about. Either way, doesn't bode well for your witness.

I was never a moderator on any GPT site, period. with my hand on biblegateway.net I promise you that. If I did get moderator privs, I wasn't notified about it. If you persist with this lie, then you are indeed behaving childishly and stupidly, quite deliberately.

I think proudmama and jkopinion are the only other moderators besides Becky. The site is rather new and up until a month or two ago I wasn't very active since I was trying to reach the "gas" incentive on cashcrate.




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When you finally admit you may be wrong .........again, it is someone else's fault...and of course no apology...just a "shrug"........




I'm not lying....I was told by several people that you were a moderator for a short time on her forum. <shrug> What, believing my friends is childish and stupid? Me oh my what a horrible person I've been! D: If they were wrong, that's them. maybe you *were* given mod privs and didn't know it. Happened to me on a site before. :P

Your constant chanting of the mantra "childish and stupid" doesn't bode well for you either. Don't you have your own opinion and not just the regurgitated seconds from her email? Honestly...

I find it interesting though, that you are now completely sidestepping the fact that it's totally obvious she's in the wrong here.


Maybe All these people who keep giving you incorrect information need to be reminded that it makes YOU look very bad when you insist its true....not them...

A couple days ago you said you were going to make an effort to stop jumping the gun....it doesnt seem to be working very well.

I wonder when/if it will stop but I wonder even more if most give a ****....probably not...
after all ...if you keep throwing dirt at the wall eventually something will stick...
If you get it wrong 5 times..."shrug"....oh well....better luck next time.

Maybe this helps to explain why so many just give up and don't bother trying to correct wrong things said about them...

why bother....they will be wrong even if they are right...


Belle

ETA

No I am not defending the PO of this site so please do not turn it into something it isnt.

[debv822]

Going by what others have said can lead to a very negative position of the person stating it as fact. Had I listened to all the rumors I had been told in my lifetime , without checking it out for myself, I would have been in trouble many times over.

[Seraph]

Maybe All these people who keep giving you incorrect information need to be reminded that it makes YOU look very bad when you insist its true....not them...

A couple days ago you said you were going to make an effort to stop jumping the gun....it doesnt seem to be working very well.

I wonder when/if it will stop but I wonder even more if most give a ****....probably not...
after all ...if you keep throwing dirt at the wall eventually something will stick...
If you get it wrong 5 times..."shrug"....oh well....better luck next time.

Maybe this helps to explain why so many just give up and don't bother trying to correct wrong things said about them...

why bother....they will be wrong even if they are right...


Belle

ETA

No I am not defending the PO of this site so please do not turn it into something it isnt.

You know what? I did what I thought was a darn good amount of research before posting this. I checked with several sources, looked on her forum as much as I could...and it never is freaking enough, is it.

I show you people that someone is doing wrong. Not just sneakily, BOLDLY. Well, both ways, actually. What happens? Some stand up for me. Some don't...and some participate in the very thing they love to yell at me for...bash. Gotta love the flat out hypocrisy that rears it's ugly head. Darned if I do, darned if I don't.

So...you know what? Screw it. Have fun with the GPT industry everyone. Tear it down, destroy it, have fun breaking the rules. I don't give a flip anymore. If anyone emails/PMs/IMs me anymore, I'll point them to this thread. I'm done with it. I'm done with trying to help, trying to protect, trying to be the only one who won't siddown and be quiet just so that everyone can continue in their happy little world. I'm done with being asked "Sorry...I just don't want to take the bashing...and you get bashed a lot...so can you take it instead of me?"

Go do it yourselves. I'm out of here.

[proudmama0106]

Well I'm glad to hear that. But you couldn't have done that much research, and if ya did like other have pointed out, your resources are wrong, I would like for you, and everyone else to know, that Bex has spoken w/some ppl and they are ok with both gptemailaddys & fgmo. And as for reading our forum, I know you didn't get much there either... nothing is posted about these so called "NI" offers, nor about gptemailaddys.
But anyway, just next time before you want to go and start bashing and honest and respected site, please make sure you have the proper and accuret info. As you can see both sites are still up and running strong, I think if either was "fraud" or whatever else you wish to assume, I think someone would be done shut the site down, or put some kind of hold on it. But that's just my opinion.
I'd like to say thanks for all those who have stood by and supported FGMO & gptemailaddys.com!!! :D

[bellestraker]

You know what? I did what I thought was a darn good amount of research before posting this. I checked with several sources, looked on her forum as much as I could...and it never is freaking enough, is it.

I show you people that someone is doing wrong. Not just sneakily, BOLDLY. Well, both ways, actually. What happens? Some stand up for me. Some don't...and some participate in the very thing they love to yell at me for...bash. Gotta love the flat out hypocrisy that rears it's ugly head. Darned if I do, darned if I don't.

So...you know what? Screw it. Have fun with the GPT industry everyone. Tear it down, destroy it, have fun breaking the rules. I don't give a flip anymore. If anyone emails/PMs/IMs me anymore, I'll point them to this thread. I'm done with it. I'm done with trying to help, trying to protect, trying to be the only one who won't siddown and be quiet just so that everyone can continue in their happy little world. I'm done with being asked "Sorry...I just don't want to take the bashing...and you get bashed a lot...so can you take it instead of me?"

Go do it yourselves. I'm out of here.



Seraph.

As far as all these people who keep asking you to take the heat for them..IMO if they have a legit beef then what is the problem with them speaking for themselves.....

I agree that people who have fought against scams do get bashed at times but according to you there has been death threats and constant bashing and attacks on an almost daily basis....all that and you are doing it based on your sources who are feeding you bogus info.

so yes...maybe it is a good idea to sit it out for awhile.

You can consider it bashing all you like...I consider it trying to find a way to make this site more believable and constantly posting bogus info is not going to help much with THAT.

Have you ever considered that maybe with all these people asking you to go fight for them ....maybe you feel pressured to produce and that is what leads to this rush to judgment.

Whatever it is...IMO it isnt fair to anyone and btw...I saw no one bashing you for fighting against scams.....My comments were about inaccurate information but you just go ahead and play it anyway you like.

Whatever works for you..To each his own.....

Belle

[gptcashcow]

Well I'm glad to hear that. But you couldn't have done that much research, and if ya did like other have pointed out, your resources are wrong, I would like for you, and everyone else to know, that Bex has spoken w/some ppl and they are ok with both gptemailaddys & fgmo. And as for reading our forum, I know you didn't get much there either... nothing is posted about these so called "NI" offers, nor about gptemailaddys.
But anyway, just next time before you want to go and start bashing and honest and respected site, please make sure you have the proper and accuret info. As you can see both sites are still up and running strong, I think if either was "fraud" or whatever else you wish to assume, I think someone would be done shut the site down, or put some kind of hold on it. But that's just my opinion.
I'd like to say thanks for all those who have stood by and supported FGMO & gptemailaddys.com!!! :D

Proud,
You need to go look at post #7 That came directly from fgmo forum before it was removed. So yes the forum did have the info about the site in question on it.

[Seraph]

Seraph.

As far as all these people who keep asking you to take the heat for them..IMO if they have a legit beef then what is the problem with them speaking for themselves.....

Why do they have a problem, Belle? I hear it in every plea I get. They are worried about being bashed by people like YOU.

The death threats were a long time ago. Quit bringing it up. Now.

[proudmama0106]

Proud,
You need to go look at post #7 That came directly from fgmo forum before it was removed. So yes the forum did have the info about the site in question on it.

well my appolgises i never seen it and didn't know... but I know that same thing is posted on the front page of the e-mail site... but anyway

[rachelclark91]

wow I don't think i've heard many people claiming Belle to be the bash type :(

[bellestraker]

Why do they have a problem, Belle? I hear it in every plea I get. They are worried about being bashed by people like YOU.

The death threats were a long time ago. Quit bringing it up. Now.



So you can say anything ( true or not )and if someone calls you on it...THEY are the basher...yeah OK seraph...


You can sit there and talk about all the "research you do but why would you even have been doing research on this surveylove....was he the owner...an admin...anything?

or was he just some person who stumbled into one of your threads and had a different opinion so he needed to be put in his place.

THAT is what happens so often now...if anyone dares to not agree....some dirt will be pulled from..."somewhere" and they will be made uncomfortable enough to "hopefully" leave.

NOW for the rest of your story.... about all these people who are so afraid of me..I will give you my opinion on THAT...BULL****.!!!.

People may not like me but i am NOT buying all these people are afraid of me...so they go crying to you to speak for and protect them...My God...what kind of self important dream world do you live in.

I have thought and said quite some time back that you really did seem interested in uncovering scams but now seraph...IMO your interest is more in making yourself feel important..

Have a good one

Belle

ETA
A little secret seraph...There is a very easy way to shut me up.....STOP posting BS because every time i see it I WILL comment......

[Mouse8992]

Whoooosa? I think its deep breath and relax time? by the by I'm not afraid of Belle, never was, heck I'm not afraid of anyone here. Annoyed by some yes, afraid, ummmmm no :)

By the way, I didnt mean annoyed by you Belle, thought I better clarify. lol

[proudmama0106]

Well just wanted to let everyone see for their selves before more LIES go around, here is a link to a msg that Bex posted herself, basically for the members, but anyone/everyone is more than welcome to read it, she states the REAL FACTS about gptemailaddys.com and these so called "NI" Bra offers she's running. :)
http://freegasmoneyonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=178#p856

[bellestraker]

Well just wanted to let everyone see for their selves before more LIES go around, here is a link to a msg that Bex posted herself, basically for the members, but anyone/everyone is more than welcome to read it, she states the REAL FACTS about gptemailaddys.com and these so called "NI" Bra offers she's running. :)
http://freegasmoneyonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=178#p856



I do not know enough about offer sites to really understand or have a legit opinion on what is being done but I do believe this thread was generally started over a legit concern.

We all know there are many scam sites started up almost daily so it only makes sense to ask questions about anything which appears suspicious. I could understand surveylove being upset but I have to also say....the reaction from the staff/owner admin of this site leaves a lot to be desired as well.

If the site is legit and I have no way of knowing that....then it would have been nice to see the owner simply explain what is being done and who has advised that it is OK.

For any possible future members who were reading....I imagine they would have preferred to see a PO respond professionally and simply explain the situation.

Regarding your remarks at your forum....Being upset with one member does not justify a rant against an entire forum and unfortunately although a few members will be supportive...many more will sit back and wonder why such a reaction. I am speaking mainly of what was said in the forum linked to than what was said here but calling an entire group of people everything from brainless to whatever else is copying exactly what you are upset at others for doing.

One thing you seem to have overlooked...you said in your forum that you had made some changes which your affiliates had suggested.

I agree that needing changes does not necessarily mean a scam site but it does mean some things needed to be corrected so it appears there were some issues so maybe the members here noticed the same things your affiliates did.......as well...maybe both sides overreacted...GPTB could have been less accusatory and your site could certainly have handled it more professionally.

I think you will find that asking your members to post their support does not work in the long run. If a PO asked me to go post my support in some forum I would wonder why s'he was not able to handle the situation and needed the members backing to make the point.

In any case...I do wish you well and yes...we all get carried away when angry but I hope we can all learn something from it.

Belle

[Esperanza]

You know what? I did what I thought was a darn good amount of research before posting this. I checked with several sources, looked on her forum as much as I could...and it never is freaking enough, is it.

I show you people that someone is doing wrong. Not just sneakily, BOLDLY. Well, both ways, actually. What happens? Some stand up for me. Some don't...and some participate in the very thing they love to yell at me for...bash. Gotta love the flat out hypocrisy that rears it's ugly head. Darned if I do, darned if I don't.

So...you know what? Screw it. Have fun with the GPT industry everyone. Tear it down, destroy it, have fun breaking the rules. I don't give a flip anymore. If anyone emails/PMs/IMs me anymore, I'll point them to this thread. I'm done with it. I'm done with trying to help, trying to protect, trying to be the only one who won't siddown and be quiet just so that everyone can continue in their happy little world. I'm done with being asked "Sorry...I just don't want to take the bashing...and you get bashed a lot...so can you take it instead of me?"

Go do it yourselves. I'm out of here.

If there is anything this industry - in it's broadest sense - needs, it is people with a clear mind who know their stuff, watch what goes on and give an assessment based on their observations and experience.

Seraph... believe me, I know exactly how you are feeling. I've always spoken up when I saw something that wasn't right and it took it's toll. I've been the subject of deliberate downvoting of my programs, lies posted at rating sites, false disputes at PayPal and much much more. Not too long ago I even allowed a group of long time members in this very forum who were on a frenzy bashing everyone and anything to chase me away. Never again!

Belle: an assessment of a program can very well include experiences from members who are for one reason or another held back or even afraid to post. As long as they provide decent backup for their claims, I see no reason why their information shouldn't be included when assessing a program - or even be a reason in itself to assess a program. I've done it myself countless times.
You clearly have a beef with Seraph. Given that you admitted to not knowing a lot about the inner workings of rewards programs and she obviously does, why do you insist on shooting the messenger who simply states that it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, therefor in her opinion it most likely is a duck? If you disagree with her assessment then by all means do your own research and post your own conclusions but simply attacking her for posting her assessment is wrong.

[Mouse8992]

I'm not for sure but I think what Belle was trying to get at was that some of the proof Seraph had previously posted was false and that she felt that Seraph had a tendency to jump the gun. I may be wrong because I'm not Belle obviously but that is what I took from it.

[Esperanza]

I'm not for sure but I think what Belle was trying to get at was that some of the proof Seraph had previously posted was false and that she felt that Seraph had a tendency to jump the gun. I may be wrong because I'm not Belle obviously but that is what I took from it.

Since you don't know what Belle meant it is probably best to leave a reply to herself, should she be inclined to give one.

[Mouse8992]

Naw, I would prefer to give my take on it :hehe:

[Seraph]

I would like to sincerely thank Espy for her wonderful post. I really appreciate it, and you have NO idea how much so.

I would like to say one last thing, regarding Betsy's forum post. She posted an email from MaxBounty requesting her to run those offers, yes?

MaxBounty does not allow GPT sites on their network. Period. In fact, I wonder if they know she was doing so.

[Mouse8992]

And networks look over the sites before approval anyway, at least the majority, and the fact maxbounty is very particular so I wonder how the heck she could put up their offers. hmmmmmmm

[jeesh-louise]

And networks look over the sites before approval anyway, at least the majority, and the fact maxbounty is very particular so I wonder how the heck she could put up their offers. hmmmmmmm


So, because she slipped through the cracks of MaxBounty, its OK?

What the heck? You mean, if MaxBounty didn't have the expertise to "catch" her and stop her from running the offers, its MaxBounty's problem?

Wow! Does that not sound familiar about a similar incident (recently) regarding YOU (PiratesRiches) and GHRD?

Why oh why do I read this stuff anyway? :(

Louise

[Mouse8992]

So, because she slipped through the cracks of MaxBounty, its OK?

What the heck? You mean, if MaxBounty didn't have the expertise to "catch" her and stop her from running the offers, its MaxBounty's problem?

Wow! Does that not sound familiar about a similar incident (recently) regarding YOU (PiratesRiches) and GHRD?

Why oh why do I read this stuff anyway? :(

Louise

What on earth are you talking about? Did I say anything about it being okay? did I say they didnt have the expertise? Did I say it was maxbountys problem? Where did you get that all from? I was merely commenting that I knew maxbounty was pretty particular and that I was wondering how she was running their offers. Maybe you should stop reading into things that arent there?

[bellestraker]

If there is anything this industry - in it's broadest sense - needs, it is people with a clear mind who know their stuff, watch what goes on and give an assessment based on their observations and experience.

Seraph... believe me, I know exactly how you are feeling. I've always spoken up when I saw something that wasn't right and it took it's toll. I've been the subject of deliberate downvoting of my programs, lies posted at rating sites, false disputes at PayPal and much much more. Not too long ago I even allowed a group of long time members in this very forum who were on a frenzy bashing everyone and anything to chase me away. Never again!

Belle: an assessment of a program can very well include experiences from members who are for one reason or another held back or even afraid to post. As long as they provide decent backup for their claims, I see no reason why their information shouldn't be included when assessing a program - or even be a reason in itself to assess a program. I've done it myself countless times.
You clearly have a beef with Seraph. Given that you admitted to not knowing a lot about the inner workings of rewards programs and she obviously does, why do you insist on shooting the messenger who simply states that it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, therefor in her opinion it most likely is a duck? If you disagree with her assessment then by all means do your own research and post your own conclusions but simply attacking her for posting her assessment is wrong.



Esperanza.

I completely agree with you about my knowing basically nothing about pts sites and for that reason I did not comment on anything to do with questions regarding the site.

What I did comment on and feel justified to do so was how often seraph makes very serious allegations against people who she is either looking into or who have disagreed with her and when she finds she is wrong she simply turns on them for something else.

We have all gotten carried away, made mistakes or found we were wrong at times but usually when we find we are wrong we apologize...not attack further.

She has accused people of having serious legal issues and when she was wrong she gave them a beef for not speaking politely enough and simply said...she heard it so...too bad....end of story.

There are more examples but I'm not going to go dig for them and again yesterday by insisting this person was "definitely" a mod and then when wrong.....well it was someone else who gave wrong info so "shrug".

I do agree that seraph is good at spotting bad sites and that is great but why continue to post as Definite or fact...things which she has "been told".

I am also aware some members do not like to post and again...that was not my issue...it was very simply...continuing to post inaccurate info and then jumping on anyone who defended themselves.

I have done my share of arguing in this and many other forums so I am very aware that we get carried away at times....but I believe most people do make an honest effort to check facts first.

I did try to ask privately quite some time ago about possible stories she was told and the answer was...that's what I was told and I believe it" but if that is the case then why not say..."This is what I was told" instead of this is definitely true......

No I am not perfect...far from it but believe it or not...I do care if people can or cannot believe what they are told here. It seems GPTB has taken enough hits without adding more fuel to the fire.

Belle

[bluedahlia]

What on earth are you talking about? Did I say anything about it being okay? did I say they didnt have the expertise? Did I say it was maxbountys problem? Where did you get that all from? I was merely commenting that I knew maxbounty was pretty particular and that I was wondering how she was running their offers. Maybe you should stop reading into things that arent there?

Sorry Mary, I read it like Louise did. Maybe we should all be a little more careful how we try to get our message out.

I don't know much about the GPT industry, because:

a) I'm not interested;

b) I can't for the life of me figure out how some can do so many offers that they have payouts in the hundreds of dollars. Something wrong with that picture. I could see someone doing a couple offers a week, but sheesh, either members are pretending to be interested in offers or there's an awful lot of goodies out there. I remember joining treasure troopers, or was it cashcrate???? Well, I could not reach payout which was $10 because there was nothing I was truly interested in signing up for. In my case the PO made money, but I got nothing.

c) I don't like giving out the kind of information required by some of these sites.

d) I've only seen a few honest PO's in this segment of GPT, the rest have red flags attached to them. The owner of the site this thread is dedicated to, being one of them. Benny is another one I wouldn't consider, even though you and Rachel think he's cool.

All in all, I'm glad I'm weaning myself out of PTR altogether. Just isn't even a pleasant pass-time anymore. Facts are disclosed depending on what side one is on. I like objectivity. I may like and befriend a person, but that doesn't make me blind to their short-comings.

Think I'll go play a little "No Pay Poker".

[Mouse8992]

I guess I am totally confused then because I have no idea how Louise got all that from those few sentences I typed? I thought I was pretty straightforward, so If you don't mind can you explain? you can pm if you want. I'm just really really confused :)

[bluedahlia]

I guess I am totally confused then because I have no idea how Louise got all that from those few sentences I typed? I thought I was pretty straightforward, so If you don't mind can you explain? you can pm if you want. I'm just really really confused :)

The way I interpreted what you said was that Maxbounty is very careful about these things and the fact that their offers are on this site must mean it's ok?

I would have worded it a little differently. Like maybe saying it would be impossible for this to happen unless someone was doing something a little shady. Kind of lets everyone know where you stand.

[Mouse8992]

Ohhhhh thank you BD, now I get it. :) I guess in my thought process I would say if I thought it was okay etc etc as Louise stated. I have no qualms saying what I think but now I understand how I word things can be misinterpreted. by the by, you mentioned no pay poker? like texas hold em?

[bluedahlia]

Ohhhhh thank you BD, now I get it. :) I guess in my thought process I would say if I thought it was okay etc etc as Louise stated. I have no qualms saying what I think but now I understand how I word things can be misinterpreted. by the by, you mentioned no pay poker? like texas hold em?

Yeah its all free texas hold em tournaments. Kind of like GPT. You play poker and look at ads. When you accumulate $30 worth of tournament winnings, you can cash out. I haven't cashed out yet because I don't play that often, but my brother has cashed out twice and is on his third. Nice way to pass time, without it costing a cent.

[Mouse8992]

I loooooove texas hold em! Not very good at it but that doesn't stop me :) Can I have the link?

[bluedahlia]

Sure. I'll pm it to you.

[Jennifer72]

We do allow incentive traffic under certain condition depending on the nature of your site and whether you're using a pre-written script to power your program.

(They do not allow Shift Code hosted sites - she has Host Gator)

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=10293258&postcount=8

[proudmama0106]

As for everything else, why is it so hard to believe that maxbounty gave her permission to run these offers!?!
Maybe it's just me, b/c I dont know much about the aff. or whatever, but looks like y'all seen the email she recv'ed from them and all, so dont know why everyone is steal making it a big deal????

[i love gpts!]

I'm confused. Who determines what is a disposable email address and what isn't? I've found this info on your various gpt sites. I thought all of you were reputable but you're accusing another gpt site of wrong doing when you all encourage the same thing.

http://dealbarbiepays.com/help/index.php?qid=80
4.)Make sure you only use an email address once for offers from the same company. Example- If you used 123abc@yahoo.com on a Brandarama offer you may not use that email address on another Brandarama offer.
and then what. Throw that email addy away and get another? ie disposable email?

http://dealbarbiepays.com/fraud
Using throw away or temporary email services. (This includes hushmail, dodgit, gptemailaddys, etc
what makes these any more temporary than gmail/yahoo?

http://www.bankrollbucks.com/tips
Always use a different / unique email for each offer you complete!
and then what? Throw that email away and get another? ie..disposable email?

http://www.freewebs.com/freeandeasymoney/emailtips.htm
I have had a bad bad time with confirming. So tonight I started to use a brand new email address with EVERY offer no matter if it is a different affiliate. I got about 15 offers to credit back to back, one right after another. So if you have kids that want something to do...have them start making you new email accounts lol. I pay my kids 10 cents per email account they make for me. Works great! I also find that yahoo email works the best. gmail is good for a while and hushmail also works pretty good
and then what? Throw away all those emails the kiddys made for you? ie...disposable email?

[Jennifer72]

I'm confused. Who determines what is a disposable email address and what isn't? I've found this info on your various gpt sites. I thought all of you were reputable but you're accusing another gpt site of wrong doing when you all encourage the same thing.

http://dealbarbiepays.com/help/index.php?qid=80
4.)Make sure you only use an email address once for offers from the same company. Example- If you used 123abc@yahoo.com on a Brandarama offer you may not use that email address on another Brandarama offer.
and then what. Throw that email addy away and get another? ie disposable email?

http://dealbarbiepays.com/fraud
Using throw away or temporary email services. (This includes hushmail, dodgit, gptemailaddys, etc
what makes these any more temporary than gmail/yahoo?

http://www.bankrollbucks.com/tips
Always use a different / unique email for each offer you complete!
and then what? Throw that email away and get another? ie..disposable email?

http://www.freewebs.com/freeandeasymoney/emailtips.htm
I have had a bad bad time with confirming. So tonight I started to use a brand new email address with EVERY offer no matter if it is a different affiliate. I got about 15 offers to credit back to back, one right after another. So if you have kids that want something to do...have them start making you new email accounts lol. I pay my kids 10 cents per email account they make for me. Works great! I also find that yahoo email works the best. gmail is good for a while and hushmail also works pretty good
and then what? Throw away all those emails the kiddys made for you? ie...disposable email?

What I mean by unique / different is an email that can actually be used at a later date (ie - can be used to send and receive) which is totally different than disposable, which will bounce or can never be used again.

Now if that is not what a disposable email is, then someone please enlighten me. I am sure other owners will also comment so hopefully they can help as well.

I have updated my Tips to hopefully explain what I mean a bit better.

PS - by you putting the links you got these URLs from, I as a site owner can go back and see the account activity so I do know who you are, so if you have any other questions please let me know or contact me on BRB :)

[dealbarbie]

Disposable= Means throwing the email away. Which is what was clearly the purpose of the email site when it began.

Which is the reason I commented at all.

Obviously, it's been changed which is great.

You will find that that majority of members have several emails they use for offers. They donot use it once & throw it away. They recycle & reuse the emails.

Also, I personally (this is my personal feeling) that creating emails for your members is crossing a line all together. It's my understanding that emails must be registered with your information....ie- you actually have to fill out information & register the email yourself.

I cannot condone temporary or disposable email use as this is considered fraud by affiliates.

[jeesh-louise]

PS - by you putting the links you got these URLs from, I as a site owner can go back and see the account activity so I do know who you are, so if you have any other questions please let me know

Am I being paranoid or does that sound like somewhat of a threat? BRB, you have a decent rep around here so I am guessing that wasn't a threat BUT, why couldn't you just say if you have any questions, ask me at the site? Why the "I know who you are" part?

As far as unique emails, if a person is being totally honest, why should they even "need" multiple emails? Why couldn't they just use the same one they've had for years?

This is one of my main issues with this whole GPTS system. If the PO and the member is totally on the "up and up" then signup to these darn things like a regular "non incentivized" person would, PERIOD.

Why do you think the advertisers are getting so discouraged? If there is a loophole to find, the POs/members of GPT sites will find them.

Louise

[Jennifer72]

No it wasn't a threat, just a statement and yah I probably should not have put that.

I type before I think, you should see how many times I edit something after I submit a thread LOL

I hope I did answer any questions she had and I did make changes to my page.

You don't really need that many unique email addresses. When I was doing offers I had maybe 5 or 6 and would just recycle through them, it just helps to have several because there are usually several offers from one type of advertiser, like the Brandarama, etc.

The industry is nothing like it was when I was a member starting back in 2006-ish and now, it's completely different.

I would like to say to i-love-gpts! I meant nothing by that and please if you do have any other questions or concerns, please ask or shoot me a trouble ticket on BRB.

[dealbarbie]

There is nothing wrong with using a different email from your regular email for offers.

I don't recommend creating a new email address for every single offer. I do recommend creating a couple of emails to use on a regular basis. I personally have 5 emails I use for offers. I have had these emails for almost 2 years now. I continue to receive the advertisers emails, etc. even though I rarely do offers anymore I still maintain the emails.

I understand where that perception can come in. :)

[i love gpts!]

No prob BRB...

[Jennifer72]

If you see anything else that doesn't make sense let me know, I rely alot on members input and I don't always catch everything.

Have a good'n.

[jeesh-louise]

it just helps to have several because there are usually several offers from one type of advertiser, like the Brandarama, etc.

OK, please help me understand this. (I am not pointing fingers at anyone...yet ;) )

If Brandarama has several offers, is it OK with them if the SAME person signups up to multiple offers of theirs?

If so, then why should "they" have an issue with seeing the same email addy but on their different offers?

However, if they specifically say "only one offer per email/person" allowed then aren't the members trying to cheat the advertiser?

If it is the former then the ADVERTISER (brandarama) is trying to cheat/mislead members by not approving signups on different offers, correct? ie, brandarama is cheating (or at a minimum, misleading others into signing up and then not paying for them).

If it is the latter, then the PO/member is cheating.

Do you see where outsiders like myself gets confused and discouraged?

Louise

[dealbarbie]

I totally see where you can see that :)

The advertisers/affiliates do allow members to complete multiple offers if a particular advertiser offers more than one offer. (I hope I worded that right as I am in no way saying members can duplicate offers.)

There are a few that only allow 1 signup ever even when they have multiple ads. On those we notify our members that they may only complete 1. In those cases, I personally only have 1 of those offers up to help prevent any issues all together.

Hope this helps :)

[jeesh-louise]

I totally see where you can see that :)

The advertisers/affiliates do allow members to complete multiple offers if a particular advertiser offers more than one offer. (I hope I worded that right as I am in no way saying members can duplicate offers.)

There are a few that only allow 1 signup ever even when they have multiple ads. On those we notify our members that they may only complete 1. In those cases, I personally only have 1 of those offers up to help prevent any issues all together.

Hope this helps :)

Then, in your situation, (with the way you run your site(s), ONE email account would do the trick, right? ;)

[dealbarbie]

No, as advertisers have multiple offers & you are allowed to use more than one email address to complete offers.

I was saying if an advertiser stated-
(to quote you)
However, if they specifically say "only one offer per email/person"

I only list one offer on my site from that advertiser in these cases. To prevent any fraud or breaking of the advertisers rules.

[gptcashcow]

It is beyond be why anyone wants to hide behind a name. Why not just use your real name. Trying to dig dirt on other sites to cover up the main issue is not what should be happening. The fact still remains that bex was intending to make these for her members. Has any other site owner offered this?

And digging up Jens blog really cracks me up as Proud used to have hers copied from Jen. Jen has changed some things up and is still in the process of fixing her stuff.

None of the quoted posts you showed shows intentions of fraud. There is nothing bad posted on my site, Dealbarbie's site, or BRB's site. I think the fraud issues is very well outlined. We all live and learn. But according to fgmo she knows much more than us.
Making a getemailaddy site is just a line I wouldn't cross with affiliates. They will frown on this just like the dot method and others. But to have the publisher themselves doing it? WOW!

There is so much more I can post here but then I would be told I was bashing. Or trying to help which some seem to get sick to their stomach with. So I will go sit on my hands why some try to take the attention away from the real issue!

[jeesh-louise]

No, as advertisers have multiple offers & you are allowed to use more than one email address to complete offers.

I was saying if an advertiser stated-
(to quote you)


I only list one offer on my site from that advertiser in these cases. To prevent any fraud or breaking of the advertisers rules.


Let me know if I am beating a dead horse, k?

I say again, why "should" a member use multiple email accounts? If the advertiser has no problem with multiple signups on *different* offers, shouldn't you, the POs, stress to the members to use the SAME email account if at all possible? Why the insistence of multiple email addys? Wouldn't you be helping the advertiser keep things a bit more organized by "knowing" how many unique members they have signing up to their offers, whether they have 1 offer or 100.

I just see a cloud of mystery circling this issue, sort of an "ask but don't tell" mentality. What happens with this methodology (teaching members to use multiple email addresses) is this: the MEMBERS don't know when to use different or when to use the same addy.

What happens then? The advertisers who DON'T want this to occur, gets caught up in this confusion, gets angry for the deception, stops crediting signups or pulls out of the offer all together.

One more revenue bridge burned. Fortunately, your sector (GPT) still obviously have plenty of bridges to burn BUT, there may come a day (sooner than you may imagine) where you are no better of than the typical PTR site (no real advertisers to use).

I truly hope that a few of you (BRB, Dealbarbie) can take the leadership role and TEACH the members the longterm effect of burning these advertiser's bridges.

BEFORE ... its too late. :\

PS. But then again, maybe its already too late and the damage (mentality) is already too far gone to re-train everyone? The "lets pillage this revenue stream as long as we can til it runs dry" mentality has GOT TO STOP. It is in YOUR sector, PTR sector, PTC sector, pretty much everywhere "GET PAID" is involved.

OK, I'm done now. I'm just one *little* voice.

[wagdoll]

No, as advertisers have multiple offers & you are allowed to use more than one email address to complete offers.

If you look at those quotes on the last page, there is a big difference between being allowed to use a different email address and those suggestions that you DO use a different email address...

I have to agree it's no wonder people are confused with these mixed messages that are going round.

[proudmama0106]

what does my site have to do with Jenn's? I know I had alot of the same stuff as she did, but when y'all started to complain about what everyone had on their sites, I TRIED to comply and make everyone happy, but wasn't about to delete everything on it except the ref. links... and yea I changed my site alot, dunno what that has to do with anything.

And I think i love gpts! was just stating what was printing in each sites rules and stuff..
and not sure what ya meant by "hiding behind a name" all of us have forum names that we use, some have different ones everywhere they go, and some use the same all around, like me :).....
The "real issue' WAS that everyone was saying it was fraud that gptemailaddys was even created, but as everyone can see it's still up and running and most advertisers/affs have approved it.... and the so called "NI" offers, well Bex has posted the e-mail she recv'ed from maxbounty to run those, so not seeing what the issue really is anymore? sounds like to me everything has been proven OK and not FRAUD or a SCAM

[i love gpts!]

from CashCow "So I will go sit on my hands why some try to take the attention away from the real issue!"

Just one more thing to take away the attention...
your baby is absolutely adorable! As a grandmother, I just want to kiss her cute little cheeks!

Ok, now I'm done.

[dealbarbie]

As for the emails & needing multiples I'm not sure exactly when this started. I know I was informed of this prior to becoming an owner. When I was a member on another site. It's also something that's I've openly discussed with my affiliates as I would not want to promote anything that is considered fraudulent.

Advertisers/affiliates actually track the majority of users by IP to get their stats on unique leads, etc. I believe the reason that unique emails are needed is many advertisers run their offers on the same database.

As I stated previously, if a user is only allowed to do one offer from a particular advertiser then those terms are usually well outlined with our affiliates for us to pass on to our members.

I personally donot know the entire back end process but, I know quite a bit from asking questions & speaking with my affiliates on a regular basis. I still learn something new daily.

Oh there has definitely been some bridge buring done. IE, the gmail got trick, disposable emails, & so on. The industry is not the one I started in by any means.

I think this is a big part of why you see the standards/rules better outlined on sites now. When I started my site for example the original industry standard was 13+, I caught on pretty quick that the offers TOS stated 18+ so I updated my sites to reflect this & caught quite a bit of flack for this. Some sites still allow this but, very few. This is another issue all together...just trying to provide an example.

[SunnySideCash]

Hello All,

There seems to be a lot of heated discussion regarding this topic of disposable and temporary email addresses.

The first thing I did was to investigate if the email site in question is legal. The quick answer to this is yes, this site, as long as it follows the CAN-SPAM act of 2003, has every right to operate a business.

As for the other allocations, I personally have not had any business dealings with the site owner, so I am unable to make a judgment either way.

However, the use of such disposable and temporary emails in the GPT industry is a separate, but equally important issue, one that both members and site owners alike are concerned about.

I have created another thread to address this issue called ”The use of disposable and temporary email addresses in the GPT Industry”. It points out some of the potential problems that the advertising industry has with email usage in general, in particular with the crediting of offers.

I hope this will help answer some of the questions regarding this issue, and maybe start some positive feedback regarding allowed email use.

Sunny,

Owner & Admin
SunnySideCash.com

[jennteel]

I'm confused. Who determines what is a disposable email address and what isn't? I've found this info on your various gpt sites. I thought all of you were reputable but you're accusing another gpt site of wrong doing when you all encourage the same thing.

http://dealbarbiepays.com/help/index.php?qid=80
4.)Make sure you only use an email address once for offers from the same company. Example- If you used 123abc@yahoo.com on a Brandarama offer you may not use that email address on another Brandarama offer.
and then what. Throw that email addy away and get another? ie disposable email?

http://dealbarbiepays.com/fraud
Using throw away or temporary email services. (This includes hushmail, dodgit, gptemailaddys, etc
what makes these any more temporary than gmail/yahoo?

http://www.bankrollbucks.com/tips
Always use a different / unique email for each offer you complete!
and then what? Throw that email away and get another? ie..disposable email?

http://www.freewebs.com/freeandeasymoney/emailtips.htm
I have had a bad bad time with confirming. So tonight I started to use a brand new email address with EVERY offer no matter if it is a different affiliate. I got about 15 offers to credit back to back, one right after another. So if you have kids that want something to do...have them start making you new email accounts lol. I pay my kids 10 cents per email account they make for me. Works great! I also find that yahoo email works the best. gmail is good for a while and hushmail also works pretty good
and then what? Throw away all those emails the kiddys made for you? ie...disposable email?



Trying to take some heat off yourself there? When I had posted emails such as yahoo, gmail, and hushmail...it was not known to many that hushmail was a nono. I have a life outside of forums and gpt so I simply forgot to edit my website and take out the last sentence of my blog. As for kids making email, they made gmails and there is no law against it so please dig deeper and waste more of your time.

I have chosen to stay out of this thread because I have friends in here on both sides of the fence. Or did have friends. Might need to re-evaluate that. I don't agree with what fgmo is doing but like I say I stay out of this mess until I was informed today my website was drug in here once again for one word "hushmail". Which I might add has been edited.

[jennteel]

I also want to ad one more thing. If you still feel I promote hushmail go to the forum where I am admin at...gptcashcow.info and search my threads about hushmail. You will see where I clearly tell our members it is not one we should use. I just sumply forgot about that sentence I had in my blog. And when my kid makes emails for me which he dont anymore because he got bored...he used MY info so the emails DID belong to ME.

Okay I am done..be on with things lol.

[WickedSol]

We do allow incentive traffic under certain condition depending on the nature of your site and whether you're using a pre-written script to power your program.

(They do not allow Shift Code hosted sites - she has Host Gator)

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=10293258&postcount=8

Thank you BRB for doing the research to find the facts....