ShellCash - Great Program!

[JeffShap]

I started using ShellCash about a month ago and have received over $150 from them via PayPal already! Payments are very quick and it's a great GPT site. To see proof of my payments, pm me and I'll link you to my blog!

[shellcash]

Yeah, I am the owner of ShellCash and just stopping by here, shellcash is fairly new and is off to a great start! Hope to see some of you guys there!

[Seraph]

Sorry to be a downer, but I've heard quite a bit about this site, and nothing of it was good.

Mr. Owner, you've made quite a name for yourself by harassing other GPT owners, and by treating your members VERY rudely. I even saw a post a week ago about how you cussed at a member trying to get ahold of you.

http://www.get-paid-hwy.com/index.php?showtopic=5782

http://www.strong800.com/html/careers-employment/careers-employment-59155.html

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:6MH5U4L_dQIJ:www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D53279+shellcash+rude&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[shellcash]

The member that is calling me rude is not telling the whole truth, the things she copy and pasted are random throughout the real conversation, I am really not concerned about her and her overly exaggerated posts because I know they are not completely true.

I only know a handful of other owners and the ones I do know we get along fine, so I am not sure what you are talking about there.

[Seraph]

Then why don't you prove that what she said isn't true?

Hm, you definitely know Derek of ECashOffers...don't you? :)

[shellcash]

Because it would be a waste of time, and once someone starts BS, the damage is already done, there is nothing that can be fixed that would help your reputation, just got to take the hits. Trying to prove anything will just have people ask more questions and look more into the situation, or I could just let it die down until people will just forget about the problem, which is the road I usually take in problems like this.

Sure do know him, matter of fact you yourself come off as one of the trouble makers and or dramaqueens, just by reading your first post.

Mr. Owner, you've made quite a name for yourself by harassing other GPT owners, and by treating your members VERY rudely.

[Seraph]

Nope. Just someone who knows when something's not right. I have honestly heard quite a bit about your rude treatment of members and how you've acted towards other GPT owners. I don't like it, and I don't like the fact you choose to take the "I don't care" route. That's just my two cents.

[shellcash]

I find it entertaining how you keep mention hearing a lot, what I just see as two people, if you google any GPT I am sure you can find some dirt that can start stuff, which is what you are trying to do. Can you name one other GPT owner besides Derek that I have treated "rudely"? As the same with that member, btw is about 75% edited conversation that we supposedly had. So could you name any other members on ShellCash that have personally said anything about how I treated members poorly? No you can't Removed personal information-please do not post names unless the other person has done so.

When you are going around just instigating every story you will come off as very annoying. That's just my two cents.

[Seraph]

Throwing around my name isn't going to scare me. :P

I'm not instigating every story, lol. I commented, posted links to back up my statement, and responded to you. You're the one who has refused to back up your statements, made snide comments, and are attempting (very poorly, I may add) to intimidate me into being quiet.

As most know...trying to do that to me does the exact opposite.

[shellcash]

No you are instigating, the questions that I have asked you, you have refused to answer, which only points to one reason why, because you have no explanation for it. I am not trying to scare your or intimditate you at all, as I said earlier I usually just ignore arrrogant posts like yours but today I felt like responding. It is more like you are starting stuff, then googling something like "shellcash scam" to try to match it to the bs you've started.

[Seraph]

I have answered everything. I'm done here -- you've done nothing but prove my suspicions and what I've heard. Have a good day...just know that with an attitude like yours...it'll bite you in the butt eventually in life. Maybe when you get older, you'll realize that...

[shellcash]

You haven't proved anything, you already had your opinion about me and my site because of you have heard, you have chosen to take one side of the story from the begging. Your attitude of instigating everything and dipping your hand in fire will get you in a place you don't want to be in, good luck in life.



Mr. Owner, you've made quite a name for yourself by harassing other GPT owners

By saying owners that makes it plural, by using your google search you just only found the incident between derek and I. So why would you say ownerS when it is only one person? Hmm I wonder...


and by treating your members VERY rudely.


Here again you make an assumption that I treat all my members rudely, which is not the case at all. I treat all my members with the upmost respect and try to help them with any problem(s) they come into. The three sites that you have posted which are suppose to back up your statement are in other words you just using your google search. Ask any of my members how they like ShellCash and I am sue you would get a positive answer.

Stop trying to act like your a know it all when you don't. Your feelings and opinions is fine, but to try to prove your opinons by posting random things you've found on the internet is funny.

[JeffShap]

Well I don't know why you guys are arguing, but the fact is that ShellCash does pay and they pay well. I have had no bad experiences with customer support or anything like that. All of the times I have contacted ShellCash they have been extremely helpful and polite. Maybe I'm just lucky, or easy to get along with, but I haven't had any trouble.

Seraph - sorry to hear that you've read about such bad experiences. I don't know what to think of it personally, but I know that my experience with ShellCash has been great.

[Seraph]

Well I don't know why you guys are arguing, but the fact is that ShellCash does pay and they pay well. I have had no bad experiences with customer support or anything like that. All of the times I have contacted ShellCash they have been extremely helpful and polite. Maybe I'm just lucky, or easy to get along with, but I haven't had any trouble.

Seraph - sorry to hear that you've read about such bad experiences. I don't know what to think of it personally, but I know that my experience with ShellCash has been great.

I understand, Jeff. All I can recommend is that you make your own decision on it. I always support people doing their own research on any site they are a part of.

For instance, finding this kind of stuff:

http://hk.youtube.com/user/dafranchise0309 (Age is listed as 24)
http://www.funadvice.co.in/my/dafranchise0309 (Diff age again)
http://www.funadvice.co.in/q/jobs_for_14_years_girls (14 years old all of a sudden)
http://forums.cashcrate.com/showthread.php?t=1863 (He's banned)
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=151627 (Now he's 17)

As I said...its up to you to make you own decisions Jeff. Check stuff out for yourself...it's always up to you in the end. :)

[Vickie]

I'm glad I Came to the forum today and this Post caught my Eye, I'm Under Thongs CashChick soon Pops Up As My Referee How the heck I Fall In Samantha Sheppards Downline.Anyway i only did 4 Email Summits.3.00.I Wanna Work on Your site.But Samantha Sheppard wronged me 2ce don't wanna make her any referral Money I Was A Member of her site ExtraHolidayCash and she ran Off with 2 Checks Of Mine then some how I Joined her other site Ptc DolphinDollars another Scam Site!

[shellcash]

http://hk.youtube.com/user/dafranchise0309 (Age is listed as 24)
http://www.funadvice.co.in/my/dafranchise0309 (Diff age again)
http://www.funadvice.co.in/q/jobs_for_14_years_girls (14 years old all of a sudden)
http://forums.cashcrate.com/showthread.php?t=1863 (He's banned)
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=151627 (Now he's 17)

As I said...its up to you to make you own decisions Jeff. Check stuff out for yourself...it's always up to you in the end. :)

Can you please tell me what my age has to do with any of this? Lol you get a little google happy and just post anything that amuses you, that is funny to me.

Like I said I treat all my members with the upmost respect and one of my members, Jeff just seconded that. What did you have to say about that? Nothing instead you tried changing the subject to something totally irrelevant because you were speechless.

I am done arguing with you, as I may be young, I certainly expected more out of an adult..:\

[shellcash]

I'm glad I Came to the forum today and this Post caught my Eye, I'm Under Thongs CashChick soon Pops Up As My Referee How the heck I Fall In Samantha Sheppards Downline.Anyway i only did 4 Email Summits.3.00.I Wanna Work on Your site.But Samantha Sheppard wronged me 2ce don't wanna make her any referral Money I Was A Member of her site ExtraHolidayCash and she ran Off with 2 Checks Of Mine then some how I Joined her other site Ptc DolphinDollars another Scam Site!

I am sorry to hear that about your previous encounters with her. I can assure you that ShellCash is totally different, and nobody will be running off with checks except for you! If you have any questions on how to complete the offers, read all the guides and tutorials or you can create a Trouble Ticket.

Send me an email of your username and I can change your referee

[shellcash]

What does my age have to do with it?

[shellcash]

What does my age have to do with it at all? My age is totally irrelevant to the topic. Like I said earlier I treat all my members with the utmost respect and help them with any problems they may encounter, Jeffshap has even seconded that. After you hearing from one of my members how do you respond? By posting something totally irrelevant that you found from google. You get a little google happy I see and just start posting anything and everything you find via google search. That is funny to me lol.

As though I may be young I would expect an adult to act mature at all times, not trying to start stuff that you can't prove. Guess I was wrong....:/

[Seraph]

1. You obviously don't. You refuse to provide proof about one of the members who has spoken up.

2. If your age is so totally irrelevant, then why lie everywhere about it?

3. You say you can just google terms and see all sorts of stuff. Well, duh.

ShellCash, I am done with this. You keep smokescreening the fact you've been caught in a lie, and that you've definitely done VERY bad things to at least one GPT owner, and one member. If you've done it to one, I wouldn't be surprised if you did it to more.

One day, kid, you'll see that the kind of attitude you're toting around...that you can lie about anything to get yourself more profit...and that you can just strongarm your way around...will never help you advance and will not get you any friends. In the end, it will just tear you down and make you miserable. Take it from me, I've seen it happen to many.

I once knew a boy who was a lot like you. Cocky, felt like he was on top of the world, and since he was so young...invulnerable to anything. It backfired, and I tried to talk to him. He became very hostile and nasty towards me...but eventually he kinda saw what I was trying to say...and I'm very proud to say that he's turned a 180 and is a very polite, successful young man. The way he was headed before, he was just asking for trouble...but now he's doing quite well. I only can hope that you see what I'm trying to say for what it really means.

Look..just...please rethink the way you're acting. Please. You have a real opportunity here...don't blow it. You can run a great site...but you need to just chill the attitude and start telling the truth.

See ya.

[shellcash]

What attitude are you talking about? If anyone here has an attitude it is you! Every negative comment I’ve seen about ShellCash is either from people with a bias opinion, like you, or people with no experience, or failed because they didn’t study a bit and do their homework. Save the story time lesson, stop trying to make me look as a bad person, when all you do is gather random info and make it try to sound as a bad thing.

When you point one finger at someone, you have three pointing back at you.

I am sure I will see your response shortly, you said 3 posts ago that you were done, looky here! YOU REPLIED!!

[Prinzess1515]

Anyone else try shell cash and liked it?

[hypercoloreyes]

I think the conversation here is enough for most mature people to know they want to avoid shellcash. The owner was immediately hostile instead of trying to calmly respond to the negative situations that were brought to light. A site owner who appears incapable of controlling his temper and conducting a discussion in an adult manner is a site owner I want no dealings with.

[eCash Derek]

This is just another display of Francis's superb people skills. :laugh:

I wonder why this kid even bothers responding to anything publicly. He only makes the situation even worse for himself and his site's image. With such a poor attitude like his, it's a wonder his site hasn't been run into the ground yet.

BTW- the original poster, Jeff Shap, is employed by Francis. You can find him around the net posting as Jeff Shap, asking prospective members to AIM him at ShellCash Jeff. So the only person who has anything good to say about this site is actually a employee. :laugh:

[shellcash]

Derek I was expecting your reply sooner, well I already knew that you were going to say basically that, personal attacks are not necessary. I don't understand the grudge you hold against ShellCash and I, I understand that my site is doing noticeably better than yours but to insult people on the color of their skin is just crossing the line, I am referring to when you called me Do not try to bypass the word censor I am sure you remember that.

[eCash Derek]

Derek I was expecting your reply sooner, well I already knew that you were going to say basically that, personal attacks are not necessary. I don't understand the grudge you hold against ShellCash and I, I understand that my site is doing noticeably better than yours but to insult people on the color of their skin is just crossing the line, I am referring to when you called me Do not try to bypass the word censor I am sure you remember that.

Well let's just totally change the topic why don't we?

Nevermind that the only person who has come to support you and your site is one of your employees. Nevermind your unprofessional attitude and hostile behavior. Nevermind that everybody who has read this thread agrees with both me and Seraph.

But that's fine. I wasn't really expecting a reply explaining your childish behavior. Actually, the reply we received is exactly what I expected. You do what you do everytime you're confronted with something you want to avoid:

You

1) Diss my site, often times writing paragraphs to support your case. Again, just making your site's image all that much better :)

2) Try to attack me personally. (Calling me fat, gay, etc.)

3) Accuse me of something. Speaking of which, could we see some documentation of me using any racial slurs? I would love to see that! :D

Of course if it comes down to documentation, I have a lot more to share to make this thread even more informational about ShellCash and the owner :) Cheers!

[AngeloftheNight]

This thread would bother me more if I wasn't a mom of 4, 3 of whom are boys ages 16, 19 and 24. When you throw out a challenge, verbal or otherwise, to a young guy, they are gonna stand up to it and they don't always says what is appropriate, so slinging insults back and forth is not going to solve anything.
I am not taking one side or the other, but you guys need to get back to your corners.
I have done sites ran by young guys and they always paid me every dime, on time, which is more than I can say for the other sites that ripped me off that was ran by adults much older.
I am a member of Shellcash and so far I have not had any problems at all. The offers are good, the approval rate is as good as anywhere else and the emails are pleasant and I am not going to not do the site just because of this thread. If I did not come to this forum, then I would never know about it anyways and it really doesn't have anything to do with the site to me. This has turned into people just sniping at each other so why don't you guys just let it go and stop the insults, do that elsewhere where it doesn't reflect on the sites.

[eCash Derek]

This thread would bother me more if I wasn't a mom of 4, 3 of whom are boys ages 16, 19 and 24. When you throw out a challenge, verbal or otherwise, to a young guy, they are gonna stand up to it and they don't always says what is appropriate, so slinging insults back and forth is not going to solve anything.
I am not taking one side or the other, but you guys need to get back to your corners.
I have done sites ran by young guys and they always paid me every dime, on time, which is more than I can say for the other sites that ripped me off that was ran by adults much older.
I am a member of Shellcash and so far I have not had any problems at all. The offers are good, the approval rate is as good as anywhere else and the emails are pleasant and I am not going to not do the site just because of this thread. If I did not come to this forum, then I would never know about it anyways and it really doesn't have anything to do with the site to me. This has turned into people just sniping at each other so why don't you guys just let it go and stop the insults, do that elsewhere where it doesn't reflect on the sites.

It's great to hear that somebody outside of the ShellCash staff has had a good experience with the site in question. The reason this thread is here is because somebody apparently didn't have a good experience and Seraph happened to mention it, only to be responded to by the owner of ShellCash in a very rude manor.

Of course I understand that young people aren't perfect. Nobody is. I myself am pretty young as I'm 21 years of age but I don't use that as an excuse to treat others in a disrespectful or unprofessional manor. Please keep in mind that everybody that has participated in this thread has kept it clean and professional besides the ShellCash owner.

Like I said, it's great that you've had a good experience with this site. Personally, if I knew somebody I was doing business with behaved like Francis I would run for the hills. I don't find rude and unprofessional behavior acceptable. But that's just me.

[AngeloftheNight]

No, rude behavior is not acceptable but at the same time, I still have to factor in his age. My sons are all different. My oldest will say and do things that my other 2 would not dream of doing. He is rowdy and will be in your face in a minute, and he did not grow up like that so I am not sure where it came from but nonetheless, he is still like that. My 18 year old is a debater and will debate with you till dawn without ever saying an ugly word so even though name calling is unacceptable, that doesn't mean he is going to screw everyone over on his site, it just means he needs to learn to be more diplomatic in the way that he approaches things like this because it will cause people not to do his site.

[eCash Derek]

No, rude behavior is not acceptable but at the same time, I still have to factor in his age. My sons are all different. My oldest will say and do things that my other 2 would not dream of doing. He is rowdy and will be in your face in a minute, and he did not grow up like that so I am not sure where it came from but nonetheless, he is still like that. My 18 year old is a debater and will debate with you till dawn without ever saying an ugly word so even though name calling is unacceptable, that doesn't mean he is going to screw everyone over on his site, it just means he needs to learn to be more diplomatic in the way that he approaches things like this because it will cause people not to do his site.

I agree completely, Angel, and I think that's what Seraph has basically been trying to teach Francis. The way you handle yourself reflects on your business.

I didn't come here to "bash" ShellCash and I apologize to Francis if that's the way I came across. I'm not perfect and I know I could've replied to this thread in a better way. I'm man enough to admit that. I don't know if Francis has come to that bridge yet. I just find it frustrating that somebody has the nerve to treat others in such a demeaning fashion.

Like Seraph, I really hope Francis can improve his behavior and become a responsible person. Both for his sake and for his business. It's true that Francis and I have both had our differences but that doesn't mean that I hold a grudge or wish him anything but the best. On the contrary, I hope he can learn from this and grow.

[AngeloftheNight]

Yes, I see both of your sides and I am sure that neither one of you are bad guys, just one is more diplomatic than the other and maybe you two should just refrain from replying to one another so these things don't get started.

[hypercoloreyes]

My personal opinion... If a site owner cannot conduct himself in a professional manner, then he is not a professional. If he is not a professional, then I don't want to be part of his site. I expect site owners to conduct themselves in a professional, ethical manner. They are supposed to be running a business.
I personally know a 15 year old young man who runs his own business and is very conscientious of everything he does because he knows his behavior will affect how people see his business. He is the exception but I feel any person who wants to run a business should be held to the same standards regardless of age.

[htownk1ng]

Somebody who dislikes shellcash actually sent me a link to this.

I think im going to side with shellcash (referring to the website/business, not a person).

First of all, professionalism is NOT essential to run a GPT website. I dont think you people should call the owner "bad." Even if he makes rude remarks to his members, he STILL pays them, and the purpose of being a member on a gpt is to get paid, NOT to get talked nicely to.

Second of all, if he is having problems with other website owners, LET IT BE. Why, Why, WHY does everybody have a problem with this? His website works, he is just having some unfriendly competition. There has been several times Steve Jobs has made a rude comment about Bill Gates' microsoft!

Third, so what if he is 15? I started out as an affiliate marketer at age 15 myself, and now I am better then ever.
Seraph, you seriously have no life. Why are you spending your time looking for his accounts on other websites? Also, if I made a youtube account with your username RIGHT NOW, claiming I was 109 years old, how would you feel? Age should not, and does not matter here, it seems that some people are just a bit jealous of his success at such a young age.

I understand both sides here, but it seems that there are some haters that are incompetent and are attempting to badmouth the owner of Shellcash without acknowledging the fact that his website DOES pay out.

Those who have "beef" with him, of course you people will be mad if he insulted you, and you have every right to be mad. But him cursing you out does not make Shellcash a bad website

Concluding, Shellcash is a finely established GPT website that does pay; if you have personal problems with the owner, I suggest talk to him and try to come to a placid resolution, or just avoid contact.

Also, I really feel it will be pathetic if somebody posts below me, "The owner told him to post this." I just attempted to point out some things, and am not siding with the owner, I am just trying to point out plausible reasons that Shellcash DOES pay.

[shellcash]

Somebody who dislikes shellcash actually sent me a link to this.

I think im going to side with shellcash (referring to the website/business, not a person).

First of all, professionalism is NOT essential to run a GPT website. I dont think you people should call the owner "bad." Even if he makes rude remarks to his members, he STILL pays them, and the purpose of being a member on a gpt is to get paid, NOT to get talked nicely to.

Second of all, if he is having problems with other website owners, LET IT BE. Why, Why, WHY does everybody have a problem with this? His website works, he is just having some unfriendly competition. There has been several times Steve Jobs has made a rude comment about Bill Gates' microsoft!

Third, so what if he is 15? I started out as an affiliate marketer at age 15 myself, and now I am better then ever.
Seraph, you seriously have no life. Why are you spending your time looking for his accounts on other websites? Also, if I made a youtube account with your username RIGHT NOW, claiming I was 109 years old, how would you feel? Age should not, and does not matter here, it seems that some people are just a bit jealous of his success at such a young age.

I understand both sides here, but it seems that there are some haters that are incompetent and are attempting to badmouth the owner of Shellcash without acknowledging the fact that his website DOES pay out.

Those who have "beef" with him, of course you people will be mad if he insulted you, and you have every right to be mad. But him cursing you out does not make Shellcash a bad website

Concluding, Shellcash is a finely established GPT website that does pay; if you have personal problems with the owner, I suggest talk to him and try to come to a placid resolution, or just avoid contact.

Also, I really feel it will be pathetic if somebody posts below me, "The owner told him to post this." I just attempted to point out some things, and am not siding with the owner, I am just trying to point out plausible reasons that Shellcash DOES pay.

I agree totally, Derek being Derek was attempting to bash my site at the first chance he got. What bad thing does he have to say about ShellCash from a personal experience? None, all of your comments have came out of hate, or your personal feelings towards me.

Yes I could show proof that you did use racial slurs, but I will not go that route since I am maturer than you are and that is beyond the lines of unprofessional. You trying to deny that is not expected at all, you are talking about your a man and you expect responsiblity for your actions....right??

I am done with you Derek.

[pietro]

On that note folks this topic is being closed.