marketing pond admin posts inaccurate info

[suzyb2wierd]

"With MysterEmail, I can fly thru those one after the other because there is NO timer with MysterEmail so I can literally just keep opening those messages one after the other and clicking the paid links."

the admin of marketing pond has been a member since June 2007. I started allowing multi-clicking then BUT Myster-E-Mail has had timers since 2004 (4 years ago)

How nice that a fellow PO who hopes to open her own PTR in the very near future thinks it is so wonderful to encourage cheating (especially when she has outdated and inaccurate information).

Would she like it if I encouraged cheating her PTR or her other programs?

Would she like it if I posted totally outdated and inaccurate information at a public forum about HER programs?

How nice that a fellow PO doesn't even know what she's talking about as Myster-E-Mail has had timers since 2004.

How nice that a fellow PO who hasn't read the admin message about no more multi-clicking allowed at Myster-E-Mail (because it was set up on February 3 2008 and she hasn't clicked or logged in since February 1, 2008) posts outdated and inaccurate information at her program.

How nice that she doesn't mention the program has turing numbers also which will slow down the "just keep opening those messages one after the other and clicking the paid links."

[suzyb2wierd]

I was told I should post the entire post from Marketing Pond so that what I quoted above is more understandable and in proper context.

I did NOT copy this post from the marketing pond forums. I received it as an email attachment from another program owner who had received it from a member of her program. I have proof of this email attachment from the other program owner.

So any legal/proprietary/confidentiality issues would be need to be taken up with the original member of Marketing Pond who supplied the post to the program owner who sent it to me. I do not know the name of this member.

I do know the name of the program owner who sent the email attachment to me and I do know the name of her program, however as she is not a member of Marketing Pond there is NOT a legal issue with her either.

"Multi-Tasking = Huge Time Saver = Big Money
07/25/07 at 23:54:31

I think women are far better at multi-tasking then men. Online, I don't think there is any difference between the two.

If you are using one program at a time, you are not multi-tasking and you are losing time and you are losing money.

If you are not use to using 'tabs' on your browser window, start using it and discover how to save time and make more money.

A good idea is to download the free firefox browser at firefox.com. A very good reason to use it is because it is more secure than the IE browser. And since you will be utilizing the programs, clicking lots of sites, you'll do a far better job of protecting your computer from site viruses.

I keep many sites open in my browser tabs, 24/7. Programs like ClixSense and AdBux in which the ads appear and disappear very rapidly. I toggle back and forth between sites in between whatever else I am doing, to check for ads to click.

Other sites I only need to log into once per day.

Same goes with your PTR email account. Some members may use the site inbox to check the paid to read messages...I don't. The reason why I don't is because I want to save time. When I look at my gmail account that the ptr emails arrive to, I may see something like this :

Online Earnings
Myster Email
Myster Email
Myster Email
Online Earnings
Fishing4Mails
Matrix Mails
Fisthing4Mails
No-Minimum
DonkeyMails
DonkeyMails
NoMinimum

I think you get the point. Do I just open one message, click the paid link, and then wait for the timer to end before I go to the next message? Heck NO.

I click : No-Minimum and while it is loading the paid link site, I am deleting that message and opening DonkeyEmails and while it is loading the paid to link site, I am deleting that message and opening Fishing4Mails......and so on and on and on.....and then I go up to my browser and start closing tabs of the ones that have the timer ended. With MysterEmail, I can fly thru those one after the other because there is NO timer with MysterEmail so I can literally just keep opening those messages one after the other and clicking the paid links.

I can have several hundred paid to click emails in the morning in my email account, have them all clicked and deleted, I can have several links to click in the paid to click programs, all clicked, I can check all my email accounts, reply to emails, delete junk email, check this forum... all within ONE HOUR to ONE and a HALF hours......not to mention I can eat two slices of toast and drink 3 cups of coffee during that time.

I can then take a break, do some other things I need to do, I can make my rounds to the click sites again, double checking for more ads to click. I can work on some websites, make some posts at this forum. I can do some house cleaning, run to the grocery, take a walk outside.

Within my FIRST ONE HOUR to ONE AND A HALF HOURS online in the morning, I can get a whole lot accomplished.

PTR programs for the most part are going to have the paid to click banners in the member area any time I log in within a 24 hr period. So I can log into those any time during the day...no hurry.

Paid to do offer programs, I usually take a day or two during the month, and just spend several hours doing the offers.

Bottomline, learn to mutli-task and get organized with these programs and your time. Even if you work a full time job offline, you can utilize these programs and make money and you can learn how to utilize them quickly in the least amount of time."

[animekenji]

I'll play devil's advocate for a moment and ask, how does any of the above constitute cheating? At no time are multiple links from the same site ever open in violation of the ad timer. Also, what is wrong with refreshing the Bux sites so you get the new links as soon as they become available?

[Esperanza]

Do I just open one message, click the paid link, and then wait for the timer to end before I go to the next message? Heck NO.

I click : No-Minimum and while it is loading the paid link site, I am deleting that message and opening DonkeyEmails and while it is loading the paid to link site, I am deleting that message and opening Fishing4Mails......and so on and on and on.....and then I go up to my browser and start closing tabs of the ones that have the timer ended. With MysterEmail, I can fly thru those one after the other because there is NO timer with MysterEmail so I can literally just keep opening those messages one after the other and clicking the paid links.


For me it's the above part of Marketing Pond owner's instruction on how to "multi-task" that is the problem.

open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
close all tabs
start over

Where is the part of reading the email?
I'll be the first to admit that reading 'thanks for your click' 37 times in a row gets boring but there are also some very nicely written PTP ads being sent that deserve to be read.

Where is the part of taking a look at the website?
I'll be the first to admit that many PTP pages look the same but there are also some that have different content and deserve a closer look.

Like all other advertising, you are being paid to read the email and then take a look at the website. If you can't do that or you think the link values aren't worth your time and effort, then by all means opt out of PTP mails.
But if you opt in for them then not reading or at least taking a glance at the ad, not looking or at least taking a glance at the page that is advertised is cheating.

[animekenji]

For me it's the above part of Marketing Pond owner's instruction on how to "multi-task" that is the problem.

open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
open email - click link - close email
close all tabs
start over

Where is the part of reading the email?
I'll be the first to admit that reading 'thanks for your click' 37 times in a row gets boring but there are also some very nicely written PTP ads being sent that deserve to be read.

Where is the part of taking a look at the website?
I'll be the first to admit that many PTP pages look the same but there are also some that have different content and deserve a closer look.

Like all other advertising, you are being paid to read the email and then take a look at the website. If you can't do that or you think the link values aren't worth your time and effort, then by all means opt out of PTP mails.
But if you opt in for them then not reading or at least taking a glance at the ad, not looking or at least taking a glance at the page that is advertised is cheating.

But PTP ads aren't meant to be looked at. All the advertiser wants is a hit to the link, the higher the tier the better so they get paid. I receive very few links that demand to be looked at anymore and once I've seen one once, I am capable of deciding whether I want to take action on it or not. There is no need to look at it hundreds of more times before it expires. Once I decide not to take action on a particular link, seeing it more does not change my mind.

[suzyb2wierd]

But PTP ads aren't meant to be looked at. All the advertiser wants is a hit to the link, the higher the tier the better so they get paid. I receive very few links that demand to be looked at anymore and once I've seen one once, I am capable of deciding whether I want to take action on it or not. There is no need to look at it hundreds of more times before it expires. Once I decide not to take action on a particular link, seeing it more does not change my mind.

To me it was not ever about reading the emails or looking at the pages. Its about posting inaccurate information about a site. I will admit that I did not see that the date of the post was July of 2007 and for that I deeply apologize.

If you are going to post information about a site in a public forum the very least you can do before posting that information is make sure that its still correct.

Because the admin of Marketing Pond hadn't logged in or clicked since February 1, 2008 she had NOT read the admin message stating that multi-clicking was no longer allowed. This admin message was set up February 3, 2008.

She did NOT post that multi-clicking was allowed, she posted that myster-e-mail has NO TIMERS.

She insinuated that multi-clicking was allowed at myster-e-mail which it is not.

Myster-E-Mail has had timers since 2004. the admin of marketing pond was only a member from June 2007 so she was NEVER ever a member when Myster-E-Mail did NOT have timers.

And like I said if you are going to post information about a site in a public forum the least you can do is make sure the information is accurate.

Encouraging others to break the rules/tos of a site (even if you are not aware of the change in the terms) is not what I consider ethical behavior.

Is it my fault that the admin of marketing pond hadn't logged in for 10 days before she posted totally inaccurate and misleading information about my site? NO it is not. Posting that information without making sure it was still accurate was irresponsible at best.

ETA: I do not think there was malicious intent here. I did not see that the original post was from July 2007 until today (February 24, 2008) and for that I am very sorry.

[wagdoll]

A lot of people say no timer when what they mean is no timer lock. Your site did allow multiclicking until very recently so she may have written that when the terms still allowed it. You've intimated the info was less than ten days out of date, that's what I would call a crossover in timing, not purposefully posting inaccurate information with malicious intent.

Since the site did allow multiclicking it's going to be hard for a lot of people to see how instructions on how to maximise this multiclicking equates to cheating. However I don't like these instructions and am glad that another PO is now standing up and agreeing that clicking upteen links and closing them out without even mentioning looking at the ads is not desirable or helpful for PTR. Encouraging this type of thing may mean a quick rise in your personal account earnings but in the long term I think it's harmful to PTR and everyone's ability to make something from it - members, advertisers and POs.

[wagdoll]

But PTP ads aren't meant to be looked at. All the advertiser wants is a hit to the link, the higher the tier the better so they get paid. I receive very few links that demand to be looked at anymore and once I've seen one once, I am capable of deciding whether I want to take action on it or not. There is no need to look at it hundreds of more times before it expires. Once I decide not to take action on a particular link, seeing it more does not change my mind.

If PTP ads werent meant to be looked at why aren't they just blank white pages (choose your favourite colour if you don't like white)?

Why would anyone in their right mind pay for advertising purposely for people to not look at it? You don't sell things that way, you don't get signups that way. On the contrary there is a bigger point to advertising, that is to have people see your ads, in the hope that some of them will like the look of what you're advertising and investigate further and a few of them will lead to a sale or signup. The advertiser isn't bothered about the tiers so much as they are targeting countries who can respond to their ads, it's no good advertising Argos in a country that they don't ship to.

A lot of PTP promoters and viewers do seem to have lost touch with this - so do some of the page designers/site owners who are presenting nothing but a hard to look at banner farm page. But PTP promoters and POs will earn more if those advertisers are kept happy by getting results. The more PTP sites send a ton of repeat IP, non-converting traffic to those ads, the more PTP sites will be cut off from being paid for presenting them to internet surfers. That is not in the best interest of PTP promoters because that means they don't earn as much and sites go out of business.

There's also people paying for the spot in the rotator. If they put the ref page of their favourite site in there, or spend time on a custom page to advertise something, or even pay for a PTR affiliate page with the banners of some of their favourite sites on it, it's not a donation to the PTP site, it's because they hope that at least a few people exposed to that will look at the webpage, like what they see and sign up. If no one does that, these people won't buy again, the site will be down about 20c per 1000 in revenue that they can't pay the promoters so PTP rates go down.

I can see how easy it is to perceive PTP pages as just a hit that doesn't require a look, but that's not what they are supposed to be about.

[suzyb2wierd]

A lot of people say no timer when what they mean is no timer lock. Your site did allow multiclicking until very recently so she may have written that when the terms still allowed it. You've intimated the info was less than ten days out of date, that's what I would call a crossover in timing, not purposefully posting inaccurate information with malicious intent.

Since the site did allow multiclicking it's going to be hard for a lot of people to see how instructions on how to maximise this multiclicking equates to cheating. However I don't like these instructions and am glad that another PO is now standing up and agreeing that clicking upteen links and closing them out without even mentioning looking at the ads is not desirable or helpful for PTR. Encouraging this type of thing may mean a quick rise in your personal account earnings but in the long term I think it's harmful to PTR and everyone's ability to make something from it - members, advertisers and POs.

odd though that this person canceled her account as soon as she read the admin messages about (1) no more multi-clicking and (2) my reserving the right to discuss cheaters with other po's and (3) members caught promoting or encouraging cheating will be deleted.

also odd that she deliberately failed the english tests related to the admin messages above when she'd never failed even one english test in 8 months (when I change the rules to something she doesn't like, she deliberately fails three english test??????)

many of the members of marketing pond who responded to her post had no clue that multi-clicking was allowed at my sites.

and although I hadn't seen the post BEFORE I made the decision to disallow the practice, seeing it made me even more sure that I made the right decision.

perhaps its not out-and-out encouraging cheating.

However, if I saw a post at a forum saying you can open multiple windows at a site and then tried it at that site only to get "you must allow the timer to run down before clicking another ad" I would wonder what the OP at the forum was trying to do.

Yes I use firefox and I currently have 11 windows open (for some reason my firefox won't allow opening in the same tab)

PTC at Freebee Mail
GPT Boycott
deep c links (3 windows)
cash delight (2 windows)
rose bizs
xray emails
e-qoo 2 (2 windows)

and on all but e-qoo2 I waited until the timer ran down before clicking the next link.

And I have 5 emails from DIFFERENT sites currently open. DIFFERENT SITES not the same site. I don't open all the emails from say E-QOO2 and click click click all the links even though I know multi-clicking is allowed at that site.

And even though I know that a timer is not usually 10 seconds even though it says it is and I know that I could click another link before that 10 seconds is up (and not get the "you must let the timer blah blah blah) I do NOT do that.

I am NOT saying "oh look at me what a good honest clicker I am"--I am saying that I follow the spirit of the law(TOS) not just the letter of the law.

again ETA to state that I do not think that there was malicious intent on the part of the admin of marketing pond. If I had seen the date on the original post (July 2007) I would not have posted what I have posted here or in other forums

[wagdoll]

I am saying that I follow the spirit of the law(TOS) not just the letter of the law.

Yes, I agree with that.

[animekenji]

I think we are at odds here as to what multiclicking is and what a PTP link is. When I say PTP link, I mean that page from Donkeymails or wherever when you click on it says "memberx has just received 1 credit" and they then exchange those credits for cash at the site. The affiliate who placed that ad just wants the credit for me clicking on the ad so they have more credits to exchange. They do not care whether I look at the page or not, as long as they get their credit. Multiclicking, I am defining as having multiple links open from the same site in violation of the ad timer. I do not consider multiclicking to be having links from multiple sites open when none of those links are from the same site. Am I wrong in my definitions?

[suzyb2wierd]

I think we are at odds here as to what multiclicking is and what a PTP link is. When I say PTP link, I mean that page from Donkeymails or wherever when you click on it says "memberx has just received 1 credit" and they then exchange those credits for cash at the site. The affiliate who placed that ad just wants the credit for me clicking on the ad so they have more credits to exchange. They do not care whether I look at the page or not, as long as they get their credit. Multiclicking, I am defining as having multiple links open from the same site in violation of the ad timer. I do not consider multiclicking to be having links from multiple sites open when none of those links are from the same site. Am I wrong in my definitions?

you aren't wrong.

But the admin clearly stated that she was opening multiple links from ONE site (myster-e-mail) and whipping through all of them in record time because there were NO timers (wrong, had timers since 2004).

Multi-clicking is NO longer allowed at Myster-E-Mail and that was the site she was encouraging multi-clicking at.

and the ptp pages do have advertising on them.

The member of Donkey may not care if you look at the page, but if the advertising on the pages doesn't bring results for the advertiser will they come back? Many 3rd party affiliates and advertisers stay far away from PTR because it is generally worthless, repetitive, non-interested traffic that rarely if ever generates a sale or a lead

Do the 3rd party advertisers need or want traffic that isn't even going to look at them?? Apparently not and that's the reason we see other PTR sites. search pages, affiliate pages, tx pages in the ptp rotators rather than ads for real goods and services.

ETA to state i did not see the original date of the post (July 7, 2007) until today (February 24, 2008)

eta to state the only correspondence between the marketing pond admin and myself in over 8 months of her membership was several questions about her downline the same day she signed up, questions about amazon gift certificate payouts, and a question requesting my address so that she could award a 'diamond' to my program at marketing pond.

[valerie]

First of all, Marketing Pond forum is a private member forum for MP members.

Secondly, MysterEmail admin, you know what you did was wrong and you also know what you stated and how you stated it was wrong. You also know my email address and we had even corresponded and you said nothing about my so called inaccurate statement.

The post you read at my forum was an older post and long before your so called Feb 1st date which had absolutely nothing to do with that topic or what was stated.

I obviously did state in error which everyone caught by the way and posted right behind me the correction. I meant to state that MysterEmail allows members to click another link before the timer ends from the previous paid to click link. Although, as I stated, everyone had posted the correction and everyone obviously knows if they used MysterEmail at that time, that of course you allowed them to multi-click without waiting for the timer to end on a previous link. And I even posted an apology about that.

Marketing Pond has almost 40,000 members and at that time of my posting, some what less. I NEVER have told any of my members to not read ads or not read messages, just the opposite. I do teach them how to utilize their time to the fullest so that EVERYONE benefits. What do you want? You want people to go to someone elses PTR that is bigger and larger and NOT use yours? Or would you prefer them to go to your PTR? There may be some blind people that utilize PTR's. But I can tell you that most people that use them can in fact SEE. Whether they have ten windows open or twenty tabs open or one window/tab open, they can read and they can see what an ad is about.

You, Sue, are highly unprofessional in my opinion and you are also very rude. You never contacted me. You never came to my forum and posted in a professional manner. With the exception of ONE post you made at my forum over the months, all the rest was rude, making rude remarks to my members, making rude remarks to my moderator, and I ignored your attitude for a long time. But when you came to my forum and started angrily making bad remarks to my moderator and making angry statements, that was enough for me. You are mad because I told you not to come back to my forum. You are mad because I removed your program from the MP program list. Well you know what, I do not care if you are a [edited - personal attack removed] that is rude to your members. And I don't care that you come here and hen pick and not tell the total truth. You are just showing how unprofessional you are. But you won't come to my forum ever again. I do not allow people to talk to people on my forum the way you did.

Instead of saying thank you, which you never did, for me adding your program, you come over and blast my members and my moderator and me for nothing. Well if I had nothing better to do than that, I would not be working online. I'd be in the kitchen washing dishes or sitting in an old ladies sewing circle gossiping about someones teenager.

Ya'll have a good day.

[valerie]

Oh by the way, Sue, if you do not remove your slanderous public remarks about me, my lawyer will be contacting you this week. I am not a cheater and I have never been a cheater. You giving your opinion about Marketing Pond or Buddy Pond or anything else I own is one thing. Calling me a cheater and advertising that I am a cheater, is call for lawsuit.

[suzyb2wierd]

Oh by the way, Sue, if you do not remove your slanderous public remarks about me, my lawyer will be contacting you this week. I am not a cheater and I have never been a cheater. You giving your opinion about Marketing Pond or Buddy Pond or anything else I own is one thing. Calling me a cheater and advertising that I am a cheater, is call for lawsuit.

I did not call you a cheater, i do not advertise that you are a cheater. It appears to me that you encouraged cheating, but that is NOT calling YOU personally a cheater.

So nothing will be removed.

I also did NOT copy the post directly from Marketing Pond forum. It was sent to me as an email attachment by another PO. So there is no violation of MP forums confidentiality rules by me.

And I'm certainly not going to drop the PO that sent me the attachment into the crap here although since she's not a marketing pond member (and her program is not in the downline builder) you cannot do anything to her anyway.

[Esperanza]

Valerie, please stop deflecting by pointing at Suellen's attitude. All of us already know she can be rude at times but that doesn't make her issues with your instructions on how to 'multi-task' less valid.

You did in fact instruct your members on how to cheat other sites. Your instruction as quoted earlier did not say a word about reading the ads or looking at the websites. It told members how to get their clicks done in the fastest possible way. Without reading the ads, without looking at the websites.

It doesn't matter in the least how old that post was, it was there for your members to read. And if that is what you were thinking when you wrote the instruction, are we to believe that you saw the light since and changed your opinion? I don't believe for a second that you did, or your attitude would be a whole lot different.

Oh and better make sure your lawyer doesn't use a hotmail email address. It doesn't really add to credibility :hehe:

[valerie]

Don't tell me what to do kiddo.

It is none of your business.
That is the first point at hand.

I do not teach people how to cheat but if I did, it
would be none of your business. Multi-tasking is
not cheating. Using more than one program at a
time is not cheating. I don't know what rock you
crawled out from under but this is year 2008.

Sue, is not woman enough, nor professional enough,
to contact me. She would rather have little [edited - personal attack]
running about that do her bidding for her. She would
rather show her jealousy and go running around to
forums boohooing and making things up.

Personally, I just do not care or have time for this
nonsense. For those of you that have nothing better
to do than cry over an error and make things up
about people, go for it.

Just keep in mind, I do not tolerate being slandered
and I will take action. That is not a threat. It is a
fact.

Jack Smith, does not use a hotmail email address
and neither does my other lawyer.

[suzyb2wierd]

eta to remove post

[suzyb2wierd]

i have removed personal references to the admin of marketing pond

i have admitted that I did not see the original date of July 2007 on the original marketing pond post until today (February 24, 2008). I never even saw the date and for that I am sorry.

I will remove the sites from my banned list since the error in the dates of the post was my error and NOT an error on the part of the admin of marketing pond (eta to say this is now done on both sites and the admin message relative to the banning has also been deleted)

I stand by the fact that I did NOT copy the original post from the marketing pond forums. I will not release the name of the PO that sent me the email attachment and I do not know the name of the member of marketing pond who originally sent it to the PO who sent it to me

I have apologized several times in this forum for my mistake on the date. I am not allowed to use the marketing pond forums so I can't apologize there.

I am done with this issue as I have done all I possibly can do to make amends for what was a simple MISTAKE on my part regarding the date of the post.

[suzyb2wierd]

both sites are now closed to new signups and will be closing for good once the ads expire (that may take up to 6 months).

This has been in the back of my mind since December 2006 when I relaunched Myster-E-Mail as a no-minimum payout site and the time has come for me to move back into being just a "lowly klikka" as a friend in Australia puts it.

I've been running PTR sites for nearly 5 years now and that is long enough. I am burned out and I can certainly think of better things to do with my time, my energy, my emotion, and my money.

[Esperanza]

Don't tell me what to do kiddo.

It is none of your business.
That is the first point at hand.

I do not teach people how to cheat but if I did, it
would be none of your business. Multi-tasking is
not cheating. Using more than one program at a
time is not cheating. I don't know what rock you
crawled out from under but this is year 2008.

Sue, is not woman enough, nor professional enough,
to contact me. She would rather have little rats
running about that do her bidding for her. She would
rather show her jealousy and go running around to
forums boohooing and making things up.

Personally, I just do not care or have time for this
nonsense. For those of you that have nothing better
to do than cry over an error and make things up
about people, go for it.

Just keep in mind, I do not tolerate being slandered
and I will take action. That is not a threat. It is a
fact.

Jack Smith, does not use a hotmail email address
and neither does my other lawyer.

When program owners give their members directions on how to cheat, I make it my business. I've done so for a long time already and there's not much you can do to stop me, is there now :)

I don't see how you can call someone else unprofessional with the language you are using. The rock I crawled out from? The little rats that do Sue's bidding?

We've seen owners before who thought they could afford anything just because of the size of their programs. It never worked. It won't work for you.

Oh and I'm sure there will be quite a few lawyers in the US called Jack Smith but I doubt any one of them will tackle this for you. Not if they're good lawyers anyway.

[TexasBriarRose]

[QUOTE=valerie;89466]Don't tell me what to do kiddo.

It is none of your business.
That is the first point at hand.

Sue, is not woman enough, nor professional enough,
to contact me. She would rather have little [edited - personal attack]
running about that do her bidding for her. She would
rather show her jealousy and go running around to
forums boohooing and making things up.
:stupid::stupid::stupid:

First off anything posted on this forum is anyones business and That is a fact.

Now, I am not one of Sueellens "rats", as a person I have my own reasons for not much liking her, BUT, she did post here that she made a mistake and did apologize for it. Repeatedly. There is no reasonable justification for You to continue to came here and berate someone that has admitted her mistake and apologized for it.
So it's time you backed off her and btw....I joined buddypond but will be canceling my membership shortly.

[spiffysky]

Don't tell me what to do kiddo.

It is none of your business.
That is the first point at hand.

I do not teach people how to cheat but if I did, it
would be none of your business. Multi-tasking is
not cheating. Using more than one program at a
time is not cheating. I don't know what rock you
crawled out from under but this is year 2008.

Sue, is not woman enough, nor professional enough,
to contact me. She would rather have little [edited - personal attack]
running about that do her bidding for her. She would
rather show her jealousy and go running around to
forums boohooing and making things up.

Personally, I just do not care or have time for this
nonsense. For those of you that have nothing better
to do than cry over an error and make things up
about people, go for it.

Just keep in mind, I do not tolerate being slandered
and I will take action. That is not a threat. It is a
fact.

Jack Smith, does not use a hotmail email address
and neither does my other lawyer.

First off the only person who is acting like a kiddo is yourself, name calling is very unprofessional and immature to say the least.
Its actually all program owners business if it was true about teaching members to cheat other programs.
Trying to insult people by saying they crawled from under a rock is just pathetic and once again very unprofessional..
In your words Sue, is not woman enough, nor professional enough,
to contact me.
The same things comes into my mind also about you..

Just keep in mind, I do not tolerate being slandered
and I will take action. That is not a threat. It is a
fact.

Jack Smith, does not use a hotmail email address
and neither does my other lawyer.

It is a threat and if you keep threatening people you might find yourself paying Jack Frost oppsss i mean Jack Smith some money to represent you in the charges you could face.
So my advice to you is to act professional, stop name calling and most of all grow up..

[KimberlyR]

Myster-e-Mail is closing down. She is doing other things and can not deal with the two sites she has. She said it will take about 6 months to close all the way down. I haven't been on there for about 30 days or so....It was a really nice site.

Kimberly

[KimberlyR]

The owner of Myster-e-mail has been nothing but nice to me, so please don't fight with her on this board it makes everyone look bad.