Bux.to

[cashiek]

I suggest boycotting Bux.to.

As far as i can tell this place is only paying to a select number of members.

Members were posting all over the forum about not being paid. So they made one thread where members could post about not being paid. It said post here and here only.

There were 11 pages in the thread, full of complaints and then dear debbie came in, told everyone to read the tos and closed the thread. Now there is nowhere to complain. The terms which dear debbie refers to say members will be paid within 7 business days but most members on the 11 pages have been waiting much, much longer. A lot of their accounts have been suspended because they supposedly all cheat. As i am one of those members i know for a fact i did not cheat.

At the moment there are even a lot of upgraded members posting about not being paid and being suspended.

They are not selling any ads except to themselves and probably they are not selling enought upgrades and referals to pay everyone. I do not think this place will be around much longer. I think really soon dear debbie and all our money will be gone.

I have submitted a complaint to paypal and i will send a complaint to gptboycott tonight.
Come on all and send your complaint as well. Lets at least get them on the watchlist.

[buxscam]

I agree 1,000%. Everyone needs to boycott bux.to. I invested in this program and requested payment over 20 days ago and then when I asked about it, my account got terminated. Debbie is nothing but a scammer... I wish someone could find more info on her.

I'm filling out a complaint right now and I've already initiated disputes with paypal.

[sircid]

Yes I agree that are many users that complain about payment. But every one that follow TOS rules are paid. I have been paid about $60 being normal user. My last payment as normal user I had to wait about 15 days, but I have payed. As premium member I have been payed about $140 and every payment with less than 24hours. I didn't bought any refferer.

So you must experience it first to suggest boycot it or not.

This is just my oppinion, sircid.

[Prentsss]

First of all, there not scamming anything, at least not yet.

First of all, they pay ALL premium members in less then 2 hours, i have yet to come across anyone who is premium and not got paid.

Second of all, they WILL pay basic members, it just takes up to 15 days, because of how bux has gotten, and its their way of saying if you want to get paid FAST, the UPGRADE. Thats a big reason to upgrade to premium, just to get paid fast. I have made over $400 on bux.to in the last month and half, more then i will EVER make at all my PTC sites combined. Without exception, i make $12+ every day there, and get paid ever time in less then 2 hours.

I think the problem is that you guys are all jealous that your not in with the money making crowed, so why not boycott us?

Pathetic....

[bluedahlia]

What I'd like to know is where are they getting all these referrals to sell......and why do so many have inactive downlines? Could it be they are moving the same referrals around. Connect the dots people.

[Dean101448]

I saw this thread and just had to make a post, so here it goes. Bux.to is not a scam. They are experiencing growing pains is all. Payments are delayed as they are checking each payment for cheaters. If you cheat you get deleted. Now the maker of this thread did not say he was deleted did he? Payments for non-premium members are running 2 weeks right now. Compare them to most PTC sites you get paid once a month when they say you get paid. Be patient and give them a bit of time.

[Tripwire]

Every time I have requested a payout, I have been payed. Four times as a free member and twice as a premium member, including a payment today.

bluedahlia "What I'd like to know is where are they getting all these referrals to sell......and why do so many have inactive downlines? Could it be they are moving the same referrals around. Connect the dots people."

The exact same thing could be said about AdBux. ;)

[bluedahlia]

Every time I have requested a payout, I have been payed. Four times as a free member and twice as a premium member, including a payment today.

bluedahlia "What I'd like to know is where are they getting all these referrals to sell......and why do so many have inactive downlines? Could it be they are moving the same referrals around. Connect the dots people."

The exact same thing could be said about AdBux. ;)

Yep.......and all the other ones too.

[rebel51]

What I'd like to know is where are they getting all these referrals to sell......and why do so many have inactive downlines? Could it be they are moving the same referrals around. Connect the dots people.

:stupid:
How do any of these sites get referrals to sell? Many people join these sites through search engines or ads on other sites. These members don't have a referrer so they are sold to members. As for referrals being "inactive", you should be a referral buyer on AdBux. Since AdBux redid their advertising system TWICE, over 50% of my referrals haven't clicked in over 30 days. You always take a risk when buying referrals, but I've had more active referrals on Bux.to than I have on AdBux. Unless you're talking from personal experience, keep your mouths shut!!!!:!:

[pietro]

rebel51 I would suggest that you allow the moderators to moderate. If you don't like what is said report it using the report option (The red and white triangle in the upper right of the post) and let us make the decision as to whether people should be reprimanded or not.

Thank you.

[bluedahlia]

:stupid:
How do any of these sites get referrals to sell? Many people join these sites through search engines or ads on other sites. These members don't have a referrer so they are sold to members. As for referrals being "inactive", you should be a referral buyer on AdBux. Since AdBux redid their advertising system TWICE, over 50% of my referrals haven't clicked in over 30 days. You always take a risk when buying referrals, but I've had more active referrals on Bux.to than I have on AdBux. Unless you're talking from personal experience, keep your mouths shut!!!!:!:

Ummmmmm, who do you suppose are promoting these sites on other sites. Yes, members are using their advertising money to get referrals by advertising on other sites, but guess what, I bet they don't end up in that person's downline. I am speaking from personal experience and I'm still trying to figure out why someone would join through my referral link and then not even click 1 link. Quite a dilemma.

ETA - 50% of your referrals are inactive? Maybe, or maybe they are active in someone else's downline. I wonder how many times we've all been bought and sold. JMO.

[surfjunky]

ETA - 50% of your referrals are inactive? Maybe, or maybe they are active in someone else's downline.

OK - I've thought this part through ...............

For the life of me I just cannot fathom .... if they are inactive in one downline .... how can they be active in another ?

Granted I'm only used to working with CC scripts, so I went in to give it a shot, but I'm completely unable to work any given member into TWO seperate downlines.

Is there a trick I'm missing ?


SJ

[bluedahlia]

OK - I've thought this part through ...............

For the life of me I just cannot fathom .... if they are inactive in one downline .... how can they be active in another ?

Granted I'm only used to working with CC scripts, so I went in to give it a shot, but I'm completely unable to work any given member into TWO seperate downlines.

Is there a trick I'm missing ?


SJ

Well I don't know that it can be done. I just find it highly suspicious when new members don't click on even 1 link. I have a few that signed up and their number of visits equals 0.

ETA - Maybe every time someone gets a referral, they allocate that to the "to be sold" pile and put a dummy in its place.

[rebel51]

rebel51 I would suggest that you allow the moderators to moderate. If you don't like what is said report it using the report option (The red and white triangle in the upper right of the post) and let us make the decision as to whether people should be reprimanded or not.

Thank you.

Excuse me for "stepping on your toes" by being blunt.
I just get very annoyed when people "run off at the mouth" based on what they hear and read instead of talking from personal experience. Too much unfounded reporting gives even the best web sites a bad name, whether it's true or not. I just wonder how many of the people bashing Bux.to are being coerced by AdBux.:\

[rodmarcos]

I just wonder how many of the people bashing Bux.to are being coerced by AdBux.:\

Coerced? What do you mean?
I won't talk about bux.to from my personal experience, because I haven't reached payout yet. But all that I read is that they take forever to pay and sometimes you don't get the payment.

I know a person who have lost 25 cents from the bux.to accout, because of "invalid clicks". What's that?... I don't know what's an invalid click. Can someone explain it to me?


Bux.to doesn't earn my confidence:

Copy paste layout from old adbux;
The advertising is too cheap to be profitable;
Referrals with names like: dddddffff212121;
Packages of 500 un-referred referrals??;
Continously having problems with servers;

[cashiek]

I am still waiting...........................
already waited 3 weeks before they changed the tos but now i have to wait another 6 weeks.

I am pleased to say the forum is a much nicer place to be since unpaid members we told their accounts would be deleted if they continued to complain.

Only complaining now is from those member who upgraded and bought hundreds of referals. Seems they are all inactive. i wonder why?? :p

[rebel51]

I am still waiting...........................
already waited 3 weeks before they changed the tos but now i have to wait another 6 weeks.

I am pleased to say the forum is a much nicer place to be since unpaid members we told their accounts would be deleted if they continued to complain.

Only complaining now is from those member who upgraded and bought hundreds of referals. Seems they are all inactive. i wonder why?? :p

Considering the number of referrals I have with AdBux compared to Bux.to, I have over 50% inactive with AdBux compared to about 10% inactive with Bux.to. Bux.to might be having server problems because of their rapid growth but I've never had any problem with getting paid even though it takes a little longer at times. Even with the new TOS, I still get paid within 2-3 days. I've been paid regularly about five times so far and don't have any complaints yet. Bux.to is currently one of the fastest growing PTC sites around. :p :)

[hockeyboy]

Considering the number of referrals I have with AdBux compared to Bux.to, I have over 50% inactive with AdBux compared to about 10% inactive with Bux.to. Bux.to might be having server problems because of their rapid growth but I've never had any problem with getting paid even though it takes a little longer at times. Even with the new TOS, I still get paid within 2-3 days. I've been paid regularly about five times so far and don't have any complaints yet. Bux.to is currently one of the fastest growing PTC sites around. :p :)

Well, there are new TOS.. free members must wait for 30 business days to get $10. That is roughly 42-46 days depending on when you request for payout. Sorry people but, obviously for those members who have a rough time getting refferals, ex: me, at 6 links per day, that will take roughly 18 months to hit payout and then an additional.. say 45 days to be safe, to get teh funds.. I don't find that worth it at all. We all work to hard for the money. And the stupid thing is, you HAVE to BUY an upgrade to get quicker payouts which apparently is behind as well.. From all of this, I don't see it worthwhile to stick around.

[maarie]

Tomorrow is the last day of my 30 business days!!!!!!!!

I am taking bets

[cashiek]

Considering the number of referrals I have with AdBux compared to Bux.to, I have over 50% inactive with AdBux compared to about 10% inactive with Bux.to. Bux.to might be having server problems because of their rapid growth but I've never had any problem with getting paid even though it takes a little longer at times. Even with the new TOS, I still get paid within 2-3 days. I've been paid regularly about five times so far and don't have any complaints yet. Bux.to is currently one of the fastest growing PTC sites around. :p :)

Changed your mind yet??

From the bux.to forum:

rebel51 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:13 pm

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Florida, USA I am also premium member.
Requested payment on Sept. 2nd.
Today is Sept. 15th and still no payment

[Webby1973]

Yes I am a premium member and I have been paid regularly up until recently.

I have put in a payment for $100 on 11th September and I haven't seen it as yet but I won't give up on them because as people have said, they are a rapidly expanding site and just going through some teething problems.

I believe all the whingers in here are wanting a boycott simply because they cannot get the referrals. I have been paid 6 times by bux.to, so all I can say to the whingers who want the site boycotted is give it time and if you can't give it time, then leave the program but do so on your own and don't take people with you who are at least willing to wait for the teething problems to fix themselves up.

[cashiek]

Yes I am a premium member and I have been paid regularly up until recently.

I have put in a payment for $100 on 11th September and I haven't seen it as yet but I won't give up on them because as people have said, they are a rapidly expanding site and just going through some teething problems.

I believe all the whingers in here are wanting a boycott simply because they cannot get the referrals. I have been paid 6 times by bux.to, so all I can say to the whingers who want the site boycotted is give it time and if you can't give it time, then leave the program but do so on your own and don't take people with you who are at least willing to wait for the teething problems to fix themselves up.


I have nearly 100 referals and i feel really sorry for all of them. I wanted the payout to upgrade but after having to wait really long for my earlier payouts i decided not to upgrade as i already had serious doubt about the site.
i will not leave the program because dear debbie will only sell my referals. I would rather have her sell the stupid robot clickers. The more bots they get the earlier others will realise it is a scam

[maarie]

I joined bux.to right at the beginning and had a nice downline of 88 members, most of the active.

I had problems with each payout taking longer than the last and much longer than in the terms.
My last payout had been pending for more than 30 Business days. I sent emails to debbie and her robot sent me emails to go to the forum. when i posted at the forum they told me to email debbie. Debbie does not respond in any way to emails or what is on the forum.

This morning someone on the forum complained about buying 1500 referals for $1367 and his account then got suspended. I pointed out to him that he could make a complaint to paypal to try and get his money back.

3 minutes later i received an email saying my account and my payout cancelled. I sent an email to debbie and this time she did reply. Seems the forum is to help each other and she thinks i am not be helpful. Debbie thinks my reply is cheating.

This seems the only time their tos seem to apply. The tos say: We have the right to suspend or terminate your account at any time, for any reason and without warning or notice.
The part about paying within 30 business days somehow does not apply.

Seems to me she is just looking for another reason not to pay! or could it be she needed more referals to sell. she now has my 88 referals to sell.
I really hope selling my referals and stealing the $51.83 in my account will at least give her a good reason to pay someone else.

[pillusch]

Bux.to is a scam, no question about it. As I read in previous postings on this thread, they accused me too of 'fraud activities' because I insisted on them paying me what they owed me. I did that 3 weeks after I made my payment request. I'm just sorry for the 20 or so referrals I got into that program and hope that they don't fall for that cheap scam and invest any money in upgrades. I've learned, I won't promote a program in the future until I myself have been paid. I already submitted a complaint to gptboycott.

[KatMix]

I cashed out on Aug. 4th and waited and waited for my payout. Then they changed the TOS to 30 business days. I waited up until the 30th (which would be Sept. 14th) business days only to find an automated email from them stating my payment was canceled due to fraudulent activity. I have followed the TOS and I only have one account. I sent in a support ticket and emailed them at both addy's given only to get an automated email directing me to the forum. I found a thread already started and stated my concerns in there with several other members. To no avail, there's no support in the forum either. Then I noticed that there are suddenly multiple threads about canceled payments due to fraudulent activity. There are TONS of complaints in their forum about waiting on payout and suspended or deleted accounts. I can still log in and click, so why haven't they suspended me if there's fraud on my account? There are also plenty of premium members complaining that they have had to wait up to a couple of weeks to get paid. Some premium members with many purchased referrals are being accused of fraudulent activity too.

I have filled out a complaint form as I'd like to see this site boycotted.

[rebel51]

Changed your mind yet??

From the bux.to forum:

rebel51 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:13 pm

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Florida, USA I am also premium member.
Requested payment on Sept. 2nd.
Today is Sept. 15th and still no payment

If you don't like or trust Bux.to, don't join or cancel your account if you've already joined. There are plenty of other PTC sites to join. Then you can complain about them along with Bux.to AND Adbux. The more you join, the more you can complain.

I'll change my mind when Bux.to stops existing. :p For existing a shorter period of time, I still think Bux.to is a better site than AdBux. Bux.to is having Mega-growing pains and needs more people to handle the work load. I'm still confident things at Bux.to will improve. :music:

[maarie]

I have filled out a complaint form as I'd like to see this site boycotted.


Great idea!!! i absolutely lovely it and did the same thing.
Lets hope we can get rid of the scammers really quick:):)

[KatMix]

Great idea!!! i absolutely lovely it and did the same thing.
Lets hope we can get rid of the scammers really quick:):)

I'm with you hun! I think it's a dirty thing the did to you. BTW I'm TheCatzMeow1 from the Get Paid Forum. ;)

[maarie]

I'm with you hun! I think it's a dirty thing the did to you. BTW I'm TheCatzMeow1 from the Get Paid Forum. ;)

i should guessed it was you:D

[hockeyboy]

First of all, there not scamming anything, at least not yet.

First of all, they pay ALL premium members in less then 2 hours, i have yet to come across anyone who is premium and not got paid.

Second of all, they WILL pay basic members, it just takes up to 15 days, because of how bux has gotten, and its their way of saying if you want to get paid FAST, the UPGRADE. Thats a big reason to upgrade to premium, just to get paid fast. I have made over $400 on bux.to in the last month and half, more then i will EVER make at all my PTC sites combined. Without exception, i make $12+ every day there, and get paid ever time in less then 2 hours.

I think the problem is that you guys are all jealous that your not in with the money making crowed, so why not boycott us?

Pathetic....

First of all, you have part of your info wrong. free members don't wait for 12 days, it is 30 business days.. so get it right.. That is not worth it when you have no refferals and it takes months to reach payout. Members shouldn't have to upgrade to receive payment faster as we work just as hard as upgraded members do to make the pittyful 1 cent

[rebel51]

Changed your mind yet??

From the bux.to forum:

rebel51 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:13 pm

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Florida, USA I am also premium member.
Requested payment on Sept. 2nd.
Today is Sept. 15th and still no payment

My request date was wrong.
I requested payout on Sept. 8th.
Even though it took 9 business days, instead of "within two business days", that makes NINE payments for a total of $505.83. Bux.to is still my highest earner of ALL the PTC's I belong to.:p :D

[rebel51]

First of all, you have part of your info wrong. free members don't wait for 12 days, it is 30 business days.. so get it right.. That is not worth it when you have no refferals and it takes months to reach payout. Members shouldn't have to upgrade to receive payment faster as we work just as hard as upgraded members do to make the pittyful 1 cent


:!:If you're not satisfied, find a program that pays better and faster that isn't a scam. :music:

[KatMix]

I cashed out on Aug. 4th and waited and waited for my payout. Then they changed the TOS to 30 business days. I waited up until the 30th (which would be Sept. 14th) business days only to find an automated email from them stating my payment was canceled due to fraudulent activity. I have followed the TOS and I only have one account. I sent in a support ticket and emailed them at both addy's given only to get an automated email directing me to the forum. I found a thread already started and stated my concerns in there with several other members. To no avail, there's no support in the forum either. Then I noticed that there are suddenly multiple threads about canceled payments due to fraudulent activity. There are TONS of complaints in their forum about waiting on payout and suspended or deleted accounts. I can still log in and click, so why haven't they suspended me if there's fraud on my account? There are also plenty of premium members complaining that they have had to wait up to a couple of weeks to get paid. Some premium members with many purchased referrals are being accused of fraudulent activity too.

I have filled out a complaint form as I'd like to see this site boycotted.

The latest update on my experience. Since I now had $20 in earnings that they weren't going to pay me, I figured I would try to redeem for ads without getting my hopes up. My ads ended up being processed very quickly with no conformation email, which they were supposed to send. I have no doubt the ad was put up because I got referrals to the site that I advertised. I haven't advertised this site anywhere else. I don't understand how my earnings were denied due to fraudulent activity, yet I was able to purchase an add with the full amount (minus $1). Tell me there's not something wrong with this picture. :baaa:

[maarie]

Yippie the scam just got added to the watchlist.

i couldnt resist. i just had to send debbie a link:D

[hockeyboy]

Yippie the scam just got added to the watchlist.

i couldnt resist. i just had to send debbie a link:D

your bad, lol

[KatMix]

Yippie the scam just got added to the watchlist.

i couldnt resist. i just had to send debbie a link:D

your bad, lol

ROTF I agree! Too bad I didn't think of it 1st! :laugh:

[hockeyboy]

I seriously don't think she cares or else it would have been removed by now

[Webby1973]

Would all you whingers stop complaining about bux.to?

I just a pay of $100 that I requested 2 hours ago. Believe me, I didn't have to wait that long.

Bux.to is paying a lot better than Adbux.org and my referrals are alot more active than Adbux so stop complaining and talking of boycotting Bux.to.

Bux.to rules!!! :)

[Webby1973]

Yippie the scam just got added to the watchlist.

i couldnt resist. i just had to send debbie a link:D

Personal attack removed

[maarie]

let me take one tiny guess!!

Got it!! Please do not assume Really happy you visit here:laugh:

[pietro]

Again people, please keep the conversation about the program not about each other or other people's identities.

Thank you
Pietro

[mcf]

Why ? It's obvious that webby1973 is a bux.to cheerleader. Why can't their possible identity be discussed here?

[pietro]

Why ? It's obvious that webby1973 is a bux.to cheerleader. Why can't their possible identity be discussed here?

Maybe because knowing that "webby1973 is a bux.to cheerleader" , it doesn't matter who they really are.

Maybe because the person may consider the remark an insult.

Maybe because I made a polite post requesting it.

Pick one of the above and run with it.

[rebel51]

Yippie the scam just got added to the watchlist.

i couldnt resist. i just had to send debbie a link:D

Which SCAM are you talking about? Bux.to AND AdBux are both on the "Watch List". It seems that the only web sites that are not on the "Watch List" are the scam sites endorsed by GPTBoycott.

[pietro]

Which SCAM are you talking about? Bux.to AND AdBux are both on the "Watch List". It seems that the only web sites that are not on the "Watch List" are the scam sites endorsed by GPTBoycott.


Would you be so kind as to give examples that support your beliefs? The GPTB does not "endorse" any site. If a site gets enough legitimate complaints it is added to the appropriate list. Perhaps the "scam sites" to which you refer have not received the requisite complaints while AdBux and Bux.to have.

[maarie]

Which SCAM are you talking about? Bux.to AND AdBux are both on the "Watch List". It seems that the only web sites that are not on the "Watch List" are the scam sites endorsed by GPTBoycott.

I am sorry if this is not clear to you. It really isn't that hard. the title says it all. Bux.to. I think the Adbux discussion is in another thread

[Rob]

Which SCAM are you talking about? Bux.to AND AdBux are both on the "Watch List". It seems that the only web sites that are not on the "Watch List" are the scam sites endorsed by GPTBoycott.

The thread is clear... its title is "Bux.to".

GPTBoycott doesn't endorse sites anymore, and it hasn't done for a number of years. It appears that your accusations are ill-founded.

[Webby1973]

I am not a Bux.to cheerleader!! I'm merely saying that Bux.to is a great program - also because in the last month alone I have been paid $600 from them so all I can say is that it is a good program - give it time because they are expanding so quickly!!

[mcf]

Bull. I don't believe you

[bluedahlia]

Bull. I don't believe you

Neither do I.:cool:

[Webby1973]

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[Whitelilac]

I did join today but deleted my account after reading this thread .

[hockeyboy]

I am not a Bux.to cheerleader!! I'm merely saying that Bux.to is a great program - also because in the last month alone I have been paid $600 from them so all I can say is that it is a good program - give it time because they are expanding so quickly!!

Can you prove that you got paid $600 last month. Show us the screenshot(s) to show the proof

[KatMix]

I am not a Bux.to cheerleader!! I'm merely saying that Bux.to is a great program - also because in the last month alone I have been paid $600 from them so all I can say is that it is a good program - give it time because they are expanding so quickly!!

A site that is out to scam people generally pays in the beginning. Just making a payout doesn't make a site good. There is absolutely no support Bux.to unless you count automated emails. There are several reasons people are complaining about Bux.to, not just for payouts. I know an upgraded member who has been waiting since the middle of last month to be paid. The site is going down hill. It's great that you've had a good experience with them. That doesn't void our right to complain about our bad experience. Will you be here complaining with the rest of us if you don't get paid next time due to whatever reason they come up with? I'm sure you would be, especially if you're making good money like that.

They accused me of fraudulent activity and denied my payment. Then I used the amount for ads and it was approved. Do you not find something wrong with that? If I were cheating and couldn't be paid, then why would that same money be good enough for purchasing ads? Because they have no extra money coming in to pay people. They depend on people buying upgrades and referral packages to pay for their self sponsored ads. Other PTC sites are realizing that they would close if they continued like this, so they changed the way their site works. Bux.to isn't doing anything so if the site closes, it's their own fault.

I really do hope you continue to get paid. You shouldn't shame others for sharing their bad experiences and filing complaints. Good luck to you.

[Rob]

Just a note to confirm that we have now received the ten complaints required to consider this program for boycott.

This does not mean that these complaints are all necessarily valid. Therefore I would urge anybody with a genuine complaint to make against Bux.to to file a complaint with us by using the form at http://ww.gptboycott.com/submit.php.

The program will shortly be discussed by staff at GPTBoycott who will consider whether a boycott is appropriate.

[maarie]

Just a note to confirm that we have now received the ten complaints required to consider this program for boycott.

This does not mean that these complaints are all necessarily valid. Therefore I would urge anybody with a genuine complaint to make against Bux.to to file a complaint with us by using the form at http://ww.gptboycott.com/submit.php.

The program will shortly be discussed by staff at GPTBoycott who will consider whether a boycott is appropriate.


This is great.
Too bad i can only complain once but i will urge everyone that has a complaint to submit it.

[rebel51]

Just a note to confirm that we have now received the ten complaints required to consider this program for boycott.

This does not mean that these complaints are all necessarily valid. Therefore I would urge anybody with a genuine complaint to make against Bux.to to file a complaint with us by using the form at http://ww.gptboycott.com/submit.php.

The program will shortly be discussed by staff at GPTBoycott who will consider whether a boycott is appropriate.


Since it ONLY takes 10 complaints to boycott a web site with hundreds of thousands of members, maybe we should start boycotting the boycotter!!! :yinyang:

[pietro]

Since it ONLY takes 10 complaints to boycott a web site with hundreds of thousands of members, maybe we should start boycotting the boycotter!!! :yinyang:

You wouldn't be the first, in fact one tried just recently. Didn't make any difference, the program remains on the boycott list and the program's active membership continues to drop.

ETA I've been searching for the specific study and haven't found it yet but when I do I'll post a link. Basically the study found that for every one written complaint received, it is estimated there are as many as 100 more people who in fact have the same complaint but didn't file because they were too embarrassed or just couldn't be bothered to take the time. Add to that the number of people who would complain if they were aware that there was a place TO complain and the corresponding people who don't know and wouldn't take the time and I think you'd find a lot more than 10 dissatisfied members.

[rebel51]

You wouldn't be the first, in fact one tried just recently. Didn't make any difference, the program remains on the boycott list and the program's active membership continues to drop.

ETA I've been searching for the specific study and haven't found it yet but when I do I'll post a link. Basically the study found that for every one written complaint received, it is estimated there are as many as 100 more people who in fact have the same complaint but didn't file because they were too embarrassed or just couldn't be bothered to take the time. Add to that the number of people who would complain if they were aware that there was a place TO complain and the corresponding people who don't know and wouldn't take the time and I think you'd find a lot more than 10 dissatisfied members.

:music:And how many of those "dissatisfied members" would be people that got caught cheating and won't admit it?:music:

[pietro]

:music:And how many of those "dissatisfied members" would be people that got caught cheating and won't admit it?:music:

The odds are good that a few of them would be but not enough to make a difference. You're bringing up excuses used so many times before. It still won't matter, the boycott - IF one is initiated - will stand. Just like it has with all the others who made the same claims you are trying to make now.

IF Bux.to has problems worthy of complaints and does nothing to resolve those problems, not even for just ten people, it deserves to be boycotted.

[jagsfan]

A program can be a scam even if paying members as there is some out there that does that. Pay a few to make it look like it is a legit program but deny payments to others.

If you are a member of a site that says they can't pay till they get paid..I would suggest to quit that program as that is unethical of that owner.

[hockeyboy]

A program can be a scam even if paying members as there is some out there that does that. Pay a few to make it look like it is a legit program but deny payments to others.

If you are a member of a site that says they can't pay till they get paid..I would suggest to quit that program as that is unethical of that owner.

How do you figure it is unethical. NO program can pay without funds coming in. That is common sence. No funds, no payments. Even though a program should be taking the money before the ad goes out unless it is a SE dependable site.

[jagsfan]

I disagree as if you own a company it is your responsibility to pay your employees if they performed work. Now if you don't agree with that..I would love for you to work for me.

[DAzHiredGun]

I disagree as if you own a company it is your responsibility to pay your employees if they performed work. Now if you don't agree with that..I would love for you to work for me.


AMEN !!!


Ron

[hockeyboy]

AMEN !!!


Ron

LMAO, a PTR is not a company, it is a program where. When you leave a company, you get vacation pay, if you get fired, you get vacation, severence and your last pay.. A ptr doesn't have to pay you all that and they don't register to be a company. I think you need to educate yourself about the difference

[pietro]

LMAO, a PTR is not a company, it is a program where. When you leave a company, you get vacation pay, if you get fired, you get vacation, severence and your last pay.. A ptr doesn't have to pay you all that and they don't register to be a company. I think you need to educate yourself about the difference


Sadly that attitude is exactly what is wrong with most program owners today. The rare few who DO consider it a business and DO feel they have to pay are being tromped on by those who feel as you do.

[DAzHiredGun]

LMAO, a PTR is not a company, it is a program where. When you leave a company, you get vacation pay, if you get fired, you get vacation, severence and your last pay.. A ptr doesn't have to pay you all that and they don't register to be a company. I think you need to educate yourself about the difference


OK, let's educate. Since you didn't complete your first sentence, I'll complete it for you. LMAO, a PTR is not a company, it is a program where....members join based on the program's TOS and/or FAQs which normally specify how the member is to be paid and time frame within which the member can expect to be paid. Though a PTR, PTC, PTS or any "paid-to" program is not a company, it is an internet business which relies upon independent advertisers and program members, both having contracted with said business for expected results. The advertiser contracts for exposure of his/her site/product at an agreed upon price; just as the program member views said site/product at an agreed upon price as set out in the program's TOS or FAQs. Unless, of course, the program has stated it doesn't have to pay you and relies upon the membership of the one person believing such nonsense to survive.

"Here endeth the lesson."

Ron

[Rob]

Is it just me, or is Bux.to completely inaccessible now?

[payment proof]

I have heard concerns about this program too. Thanks for posting this.

[longshanks1971]

No, I can't get it either, quote;

Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at bux.to.

Craig

[Rob]

Their WHOIS entry is also rather strange in that it is completely lacking... :\

http://whois.domaintools.com/bux.to

Rob

[Josh]

Their WHOIS entry is also rather strange in that it is completely lacking... :\

http://whois.domaintools.com/bux.to

Rob

This is how it works, as far as I know, with .to domains. If you try something like go.to (etc.) which is owned by FortuneCity, it still gives you the one-line DNS records. I don't know what's going on with this bux.to situation, and I don't intend to defend the site, but at least with the whois there is no inherent wrongdoing. :)

Regards,
Josh

[Rob]

This is how it works, as far as I know, with .to domains. If you try something like go.to (etc.) which is owned by FortuneCity, it still gives you the one-line DNS records. I don't know what's going on with this bux.to situation, and I don't intend to defend the site, but at least with the whois there is no inherent wrongdoing. :)

Regards,
Josh

Thanks for that clarification Josh :)

[bluedahlia]

This post (http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=498826&pid=4814684&st=0&#entry4814684) I made a GPF might clarify why Bux.to was unreachable earlier.

What can I say.........Kids!

[phillygal3]

Is it just me, or is Bux.to completely inaccessible now?

it appears to have gone "poof"

[bluedahlia]

This kinda sums things up.

http://abux.info/viewtopic.php?t=3375


The site is accessible but not sure if it is workable.

http://89.163.144.146/


This whole situation reminds me of school kids throwing stones at each other and blaming it on the other one. Totally unprofessional and absolutely ridiculous.

[hockeyboy]

it reminds me of Logans-legacy. He operated with a bunch of followers.

[Kaz80]

hi, i'm a member of both sites adbux and bux.to and haven't upgraded on either of them, the trouble with paid to click sites is that when i'm busy doing emails i always forget to check the click sites. After reading a few things about these sites and seeing several warnings on adbux i have now decided i don't want anything to do with them nor do i want to earn them any money. I have also warned one of my friends about this site as he is an upgraded member and earns alot from the site. I would like to know whats happened to bux.to and whether anyone has a link for them that works as i would like to carry on supporting them.
Also alot of members of paid to read and click sites use the getpaid forum site and all they see is praise for adbux and how members keep getting paid. Does anyone know if this link from bluedahlia is allowed to be put on there and has anyone tried it.

[Rob]

Apparently the site was down due to "sabotage".

Members can access the site via http://89.163.144.146/.

To see Bux.to's explanation, see http://abux.info/viewtopic.php?t=3375.

Looks like it's a war between Bux.to and Adbux ;)

[Kaz80]

thanks,
the link doesn't work for me though but i'll keep trying

[godsrainbow1984]

yea this seems like it will be a huge problem site for a while

[Dav7]

my account was considerated fraud, but now its all okay and they say I will be paid....but wen!!

:(

[oort]

paid!

$10.02

[Dav7]

paid!

$10.02
****

I came here tinking another person have been paid...but is just you and I already now you have been...

l-o-l

[dbwvr]

First of all, there not scamming anything, at least not yet.

First of all, they pay ALL premium members in less then 2 hours, i have yet to come across anyone who is premium and not got paid.

Second of all, they WILL pay basic members, it just takes up to 15 days, because of how bux has gotten, and its their way of saying if you want to get paid FAST, the UPGRADE. Thats a big reason to upgrade to premium, just to get paid fast. I have made over $400 on bux.to in the last month and half, more then i will EVER make at all my PTC sites combined. Without exception, i make $12+ every day there, and get paid ever time in less then 2 hours.

I think the problem is that you guys are all jealous that your not in with the money making crowed, so why not boycott us?

Pathetic....

Yeah they are pay premium members, people who pay to do their site, I have been with this site for like 3 months and click everyday and have like $3.50 in my account, so I say if you dont buy into Bux.to it will take a year to get $10 to cash out so that sounds like a scam to me. I am through with that site.

[hockeyboy]

xactly.. spoken truth

[rhearn]

the site's down again from yesterday. hope it'll be back soon

[oort]

I dont see the site down.
I'm not upgraded member and I was paid. Now I have 7$. I hope be paid again... lets see...

[rhearn]

I dont see the site down.
I'm not upgraded member and I was paid. Now I have 7$. I hope be paid again... lets see...


yes you are right, the site just opened again tonight. Hope that I can reach the minimum and get paid soon.:p

[dbwvr]

I am so happy to see Bux.to on the boycott list, they dont treat their members equal, if you are an upgraded member you get your payment in 30 days but if you are a standard member and dont pay their high price for upgrading it takes 60 days. the admin wont reply to support tickets. If you are a standard member it takes any where from 4 to 5 months to reach their cashout and that is clicking everyday. Th only people that support or defend this site are the ones that paid big bucks to up grade, I for one am not going to pay this site over $400 for referrals, heck I am trying to make money not give it away. Anyway thank you GPT Boycott for adding Bux.to to the list.

[Merlin2307]

Your welcome dbwvr. Everyone ask yourself this question if they can pay upgraded members within 30 days,why can't they pay regular members in same time frame other than to make money off the money you have earned? Double standards=scam site in my book.....JMO Merlin....

[mcf]

Where is the forum ? Hmmm

Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later.

[suzyb2wierd]

hmmmm probably removed it just like adbux did their forum

I am requesting reversal of my payout request at bux to and ad bux both since both apparently will not be paying via PayPal.

I have no access to my alert pay account which is the only other option at both of these sites (adbux will pay ONLY via alert pay and I have the feeling bux to is heading that way). I haven't had access for nearly 2 years and Alert Pay customer service refuses to reset my password.

Furthermore adbux has decided to "take a break" from paying ANYONE until June 2008.

Can we say "BYE-BYE" to adbux (unless they also make members "take a break" from clicking) as no site can have increasing debt for four months and still be able to make it

[go2S6]

Sorry moderators, I will give my record proof of Bux.to...I have asked of payment on 10 th Dec 2007, I dont calculate how long I am waiting but this is about 80 days.
See here: hxxp://img195.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27649_buxto3_122_433lo.JPG
They come to Alertpay, I have verified business account with my bank added.
Have a nice day!

[oort]

I'm wainting since 6th December, so I'm wainting for more time than you...

[go2S6]

35$ is not reason - I am waiting. I F***k this reason, it is only 90 days, I am waiting for payment...
Have a nice day!

[merotton]

Again I requested payout 11/21/07 and to date no payment!!! I have bought 3 packages of referrals,UPGRADED and still no payment!!!
I contacted them last month and told them to ignore the $10 request and never heard from them. As a matter of fact, I've contacted them several x's and no reply.
Anyways I tried to request payout earlier and was denied it because I have a payout pending from NOV 21......what to do? They seem to like posting all the payouts for hundreds od $$$$ but not a lousy $10

GO FIGURE:(

[Backstaberxx1]

Hmm i never liked the look of this one,

But yeah if they can pay upgraded members in 30 days, What not regular members?

[hockeyboy]

as much as it isnt right for them to do it, they have been paying the non-upgraded members within the new terms

[merotton]

I, too, am having problems with bux.to.....I joined last year got my 1st $10.00 w/in 3 months....90 days TOS....I since reached payout again, mind you not being upgraded and all.....Nov. 21st and still have NOT been paid. This is just for $10 mind you....I keep getting the run around when I submit tickets....go to forum....I go to forum They are on Nov 28th payments..I requested Nov. 21st...So I re-submitted another ticket 2 days ago informing them of their own TOS and it has been 4 1/2 months since my request. Guess what my reply is.....you got it...problems NOW with AlertPay and refer to forum!!!! I simply lost it and replied back BS .....
Since my last request ...I had upgraded..$59...bought 2 more referral packages..$35....so I submitted a ticket asking for a refund on my ref packs....
I'm out $59 cuz they don't refund that....when I FINALLY get paid I'm requesting my last payout.....and I am done with them.....
Imagine I will wait another 5 months for that payment and my refund!!!!

[go2S6]

It just 4 months after 10th Dec I have asked for payment. They anonce how they pay thousands of satisfied customers. Now I have over 70$ to withdraw again. Hall of shame

[hockeyboy]

First off guys, I am a member of Bux.to. I do agree that they shouldn't be making premium members as the priority no matter what. But, when I hear about people saying that they have been waiting for payment since like Nov and then they say they upgraded their account, come on, that doesn't sound right. The forum is there if you open your eyes. you click on 'contact' and it gives you the options for contact. Paypal started suspending ptc accounts last year and that did back them up bigtime. Alertpay has been having issues as I have an alertpay account. That stuff has put a majot damper on things. Their customer service response time is brutal, I will admit that.. And the terms don't say 90 days, it says 90 business days for free members. So, after your request, no matter when it was, count 90 business days from that date, and that is your payout date

[Merlin2307]

IMO there is no way it should take ANY business 90 regular or even 90 business days to pay its members. That is rediculous,as 90 business days would be 4.5 months with no holidays counted,count 2 holidays in most months and your talking a full 5 months. Normal business practices are if a business doesn't pay after 90 days they are assessed penalties and interest and additional penalties for every 30 days after that. Maybe it should be demanded of Bux.to. I encourage everyone to file a complaint using the link on the left side of the page. As always....JMO....Merlin:alien:

[hockeyboy]

well, there are a very few people that are having issues with it. But, if you actually looked to the left, you would see that they are already boycotted. And yes, 90 business days is way to long as far as i'm concerned. It bloody rediculous and beyond beleive especially for $10.. But, what can you do.. People out there are buy ads there. Most days there are over 250 ads so the profit is there. They now have a bux.to CC/debit card and those members are apparently getting paid quicker. But, if you don't like it, don't touch it.. Nothing else can be done about it

[Merlin2307]

If enough members demand and don't click the ads,management is sure to take notice or atleast attempt to find out what is wrong and correct it. I would not just continue to click. JMO....Merlin:alien:

[hockeyboy]

I agree that they should stop clicking. But, those upgraded members would start to *****.. you should read the forum there and see what is going on.

[merotton]

According to their payout calculator ...I was suppose to have been paid Feb 18th? I was even told by moderator to submit lost/missing ticket...and got the same response....go to forum. Problems with Alert Pay yadda yadda yadda....I think that's why they came up with the Bux.to debit card...which again has more charges added to lower your payout amt. PLUS the terms of lowest payout amt. to request on it $70!!!!

[hockeyboy]

If enough members demand and don't click the ads,management is sure to take notice or atleast attempt to find out what is wrong and correct it. I would not just continue to click. JMO....Merlin:alien:

Despite that Bux.to agreed with Pioneer about those fees, you would have to complain to Pioneer about that, but, you can never get ahold of them.. Go figure. They are a rip off, but, what CC company isn't.

[bellestraker]

90 "business days" really is ridiculous and especially if they can manage to pay upgraded members sooner.


This sounds like a site which should be kept in the "public eye" and even if boycotted already it doesn't hurt to add new complaints.

It may not matter right now but I have found that when members see nothing new they often think the site has cleaned up its act. Many people do not read all the threads and may just check the Boycott section so it can't hurt to keep it updated.


Belle

[suzyb2wierd]

they paid a friend of mine to an alert pay account which they added to her profile (ie she does NOT have an alert pay account, does not want an alert pay account, did not add the alert pay account email address to her profile) and they refuse to answer her forum post about the issue

[merotton]

OOOHHH....read the TOS again.....standard members 60 days!!! I also went to their forum and they are now working on Feb payments!!! Guess what I did....yup submitted ...yet...another ticket!!!!!No reply yet....I'm interested to see what they have to say now cuz I copied and pasted that thread...which by the way was an admin. thread!!!!!!
HOW DO YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!

My bad they're workin on standard members Dec 4th....just looked at my trouble ticket to see if any replies....which is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!

[oort]

I was paid today. I cashed out on 6th December 2007. I'm a normal member (not upgraded).

Dear Carlos Completo,

Bux.to has sent you money through AlertPay.

-----------------------------------
Payment Details
-----------------------------------

* Amount: $10.16 USD
* Reference Number: 84B9E-7875A-*****

[mjs]

I have invested almost $3,000 into Bux.to almost 3 years ago with close to $12,000 that Bux.to owes and have not received anything yet. When ever I send them a Ticket about what they owe they always reply saying it is in Audit. They completely cut me off from there forum. They do not allow anyone to post the truth about not getting paid what is owed them. There hast to be away getting our money back or having a class action law suit. Pay Pal has dropped them. As far as I know they are working through Alert Pay! Alert Pay has to be condoning what Bux.to is doing. I wish that I took more time in proving them out before sending them money. Before investing in Bux.to I left my job to go the another country to get married, after getting married my wife and I came across Bux.to and check it out for a time and it look like it would be legit with seeing all the testimonies of people getting paid, so that is why I invested.

[bellestraker]

I have invested almost $3,000 into Bux.to almost 3 years ago with close to $12,000 that Bux.to owes and have not received anything yet. When ever I send them a Ticket about what they owe they always reply saying it is in Audit. They completely cut me off from there forum. They do not allow anyone to post the truth about not getting paid what is owed them. There hast to be away getting our money back or having a class action law suit. Pay Pal has dropped them. As far as I know they are working through Alert Pay! Alert Pay has to be condoning what Bux.to is doing. I wish that I took more time in proving them out before sending them money. Before investing in Bux.to I left my job to go the another country to get married, after getting married my wife and I came across Bux.to and check it out for a time and it look like it would be legit with seeing all the testimonies of people getting paid, so that is why I invested.


I am sorry you have lost so much money ( not that any amount is acceptable)

Many ( most) of these sites who profess to pay a large amount to those who invest are SCAMS.

Some write the testimonials themselves and others pay out a few people what they collect from the first members. This is done so they can build a reputation as a paying site.

Once the word gets out they may continue to pay a few members and use their "testimonials" to convince others to send money. However... even that wont last for long.

I guess the long and short of it is to NOT believe 99.99999% of what you read online.There is no shortage of people looking to separate you from your money.

There is also no shortage of people willing to jump in and defend these sites hoping they can get others to part with their money ...hoping that will help THEM get paid.

Unfortunately most of those who do get scammed do not bother coming back to warn others.

THANK YOU for being the exception who does help to get the word out.

Good luck.

Belle

[larryonlyl]

The real key to determine if a site is good or bad is to read the posts here .
There are as many good sites as bad .
You just need to read the info ..

[bellestraker]

I agree there are both good and bad sites but I really do not agree there is enough information being posted.

Too often the bad sites are not posted about until after many people have already been scammed. It would be nice to see more of us get off our duffs and try to warn newbies and each other.

I also realize you are one of those who has continually made the effort...thank you.

Lets hope a few more of us dig in and help.

Belle


Happy New Year everyone.

[hrsohel]

I have lost 50$ on bux.to in last month. They never give payment. This site is 100% scam.

Removed Advertisement - Not A Signature Line

[Dav7]

of course its scam, its been for more than 4 years!!!

how can you admin a blog with tips if you fall on this scam sites?!

[kaylite]

They are a huge SCAM,

Stay AWAY.

Now My account has $0.00

After the improvements to their site, my account still has $0.00 2 months now.

They said a couple of weeks. I signed up with same name and all, but BULLS**T

< I am sorry but your blog has banners and advert urls which is not allowed in main forum >

I have been waiting 4 yrs for payment.

Their strategy.

Take your money... give you back 5% after 1 year of waiting and after waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting it's too late.

Do not be naive NEW MEMBERS.:!:

[Jennifer72]

They have been boycotted by GPTBoycott as well

http://www.gptboycott.com/boycotted/Bux.to

[gp2bc49]

with the old script i had over $60 pending audit since april 2007!!!

now that they changed everything standard members can no longer request a cash payment! now what? is there still a chance i might get paid from the old system? not for ads only but all cash as before?

theyre still moving old monies to the new system and ive yet to see mine in my acct.

whenever i asked a question about payments in the forum the answer is always the same...pls be patient. u will be paid soon... is it that way for everyone or just us lowly standard members?

how many other standard members have not been paid in over 4 years!? how many more are left to receive payment or have their old accounts transferred?? i wish they had a list or something to go by to see who is where.

[Jennifer72]

As stated before

They have been boycotted by GPTBoycott as well

http://www.gptboycott.com/boycotted/Bux.to

Stay far far away