Adbux

[BigKahuna]

Why suggest to boycott adbux?

Increasing min payout (sign of failing revenue and nothing more)

Slow or non-existant payouts and lieing to members about payouts

Decreasing members earnings by a few cents at a time (happened 3 times now my earnings were reduced by 2-3 cents)

Locking members out of adbux

:baaa:

[valerie]

To tell you the honest to goodness, I don't know
what to think about them.

I have been paid all payout requests to date.

With that said, I have also been locked out once...
in which they reset my password and stated something
about dns, and hijacker, etc. But I was able to get back in.

My paypal address had changed in my profile to my
subscribed email address and they had sent the last
three payout requests to it. I think they changed my
paypal email address in my profile at the time they
reset my password.

I don't know if they do some of those things deliberately
or if they are just working behind the scenes and create
errors in the process or what.

[hockeyboy]

Sounds like owners that don't know what they are doing. But, when that min payout is raised, for sure that is a sign of lack of funds.

[valerie]

Not really.

After all, the minimum payout was only $5.

The thing about programs like this, the owners always
have to check carefully that someone is not cheating.
There are very ruthless people out there that do know
how to cheat some systems.

So raising the payout from $5 to $10 is really not much
of a rise considering it does not take long to reach $10.
At the same token, it gives the owner time to double
check those payout requests for legitimacy...or I should
say, not be overly burdened daily checking payout legit.

[SAS-Rod]

It also just doubled his "credit limit" with his members.

I have been in the trenches for quite a few years now "discovering" the methods of the cheaters.

Most of the cheating can be thwarted from adequate cheat detection on the server end. If they don't have a system in place to "flag" suspicious activity in real time (the server can sniff out issues a thousand times a second), then I seriously doubt human eyeballs are going to be much more effective.

In this day and age, if a PO still has to sift through raw server logs to detect a cheater, they won't keep up. Sure, viewing raw logs is still the final test but your scripts should flush out most cheating immediately.

He could have simply kept it a $5 minimum with a 1 or 2 per month request limit if it really isn't a money issue.

Then again, it may not be a money issue "yet" but since most of the ads are his own affiliate pages, he better have deep pockets because those affiliates won't be paying for 30 to 60 days and more importantly, hope he is making enough from those affiliates to payout as high as 2¢ per hit.

[hockeyboy]

I just joined adbux a week ago

[phillygal3]

i think i will stay away. he probably increased min payout so he could spend more on advertising. i have never seen so many adbux banners in my life, everywhere i go there they are LOL.

[cybertongue]

Not really.

After all, the minimum payout was only $5.

The thing about programs like this, the owners always
have to check carefully that someone is not cheating.
There are very ruthless people out there that do know
how to cheat some systems.

So raising the payout from $5 to $10 is really not much
of a rise considering it does not take long to reach $10.
At the same token, it gives the owner time to double
check those payout requests for legitimacy...or I should
say, not be overly burdened daily checking payout legit.

This is not, and never has been, a valid reason to raise the payout levels.

The thing is, the PO has to check for cheaters regardless of what the cashout level is. Think of it this way - once all of the members with no downlines get to $5, the PO is going to be bogged down with an influx of cashout requests, and will still have to be checking for cheaters. If the cashout level is raised to $10, those members with no downlines will all reach that amount, all at about the same time, and the PO will again be bogged down with cashout requests - and still have to be dealing with cheaters.

This is why raising the cashout level due to time constraints (searching for cheaters, processing ads, fielding member and advertiser email inquiries, etc.) is not a valid or logical solution. There was a time several years ago when that was the popular reasoning used by POs who wanted to raise cashout levels, and people used to fall for that excuse back then. I can't think of a single example of a PO raising cashout levels for lack of time reasons who didn't eventually come back and say that they were behind on cashouts and had a lack of funds. Later, the program would disappear.

So yeah, where going from $5 to $10 cashout in a fast earning program may not seem like that big of a deal now, just wait until the PO starts whining about lack of funds and a growing payout queue, or they simply disappear completely. You'll hear it from the members first, because they're always the first to complain when payments aren't made as quickly as they used to be. Keep an eye on the forums - you'll see it eventually...

[oort]

I was paid two times: 5$ of my work and 15$ of my referrals.
The next two months will be crucial because the people without referral will start to reach the payout and then we will see what happens.
Anyway to me this was the best program till now. 20$ in my pocket. I never received so much... LOL

[hockeyboy]

The PO actually has a good sence of humour. No point in booycotting. I have been with the program for a very short time and have over $2 already. I just don't wake up at 7am to do all the old and new ads or else I would prolly be near payout already.

[horselover]

I am a current member of Adbux and a mod on the forum. I've not had any problems there and I've been there for a month.



Many people are saying that they've been paid, and they're showing payment proof. You can find this on their forum.

My payment as a mod is a certain number of referrals per week(a $40 value), so the owner is not hurting for money. He currently has 3 mods on the site.


He has also allowed us mods to upgrade our membership to premium at a discounted rate.

The admin is quite active on the forums and is completing payouts almost daily. Those who requested payouts on the 16th and 17th of June received them on June 20th.

So there's really no reason to boycott them.

[bondphil]

Apart from a few teething problems i've not exerienced any problems. I've always received payment within 3 days of requesting it.

[ironapple]

have no problems with adbux have always been paid in timely manner

[hockeyboy]

The only issue that I have is the fact that ever since a sister site came up ilegally, he hasn't been responding to emails at all

[horselover]

The only issue that I have is the fact that ever since a sister site came up ilegally, he hasn't been responding to emails at all

Head to the forum, you'll get a faster response.

[hockeyboy]

well, I would hate it be public for any of my enquiries about my account.

[ianh]

well, I would hate it be public for any of my enquiries about my account.


Send a PM to the admin

[DAzHiredGun]

I am a current member of Adbux and a mod on the forum. I've not had any problems there and I've been there for a month.



Many people are saying that they've been paid, and they're showing payment proof. You can find this on their forum.

My payment as a mod is a certain number of referrals per week(a $40 value), so the owner is not hurting for money. He currently has 3 mods on the site.


He has also allowed us mods to upgrade our membership to premium at a discounted rate.

The admin is quite active on the forums and is completing payouts almost daily. Those who requested payouts on the 16th and 17th of June received them on June 20th.

So there's really no reason to boycott them.

Good to see you here! Admittedly, I've been skeptical about AdBux and still am, to a degree. However, I have to agree; there's no reason to boycott at this point. I am a member, with one referral, and have been paid recently; so, I am convinced payments are being made.

However, I am not convinced as to the legitimacy of the "un-referred members" offered for sale, for several reasons. Recently, on a Monday, referrals were to be sold at 9:00 a.m., GMT. I happened to be online several minutes beforehand and thought I would check to see how quickly they sold. I refreshed the page ... not for sale; refreshed again ... 67 sets available; refreshed again ... all sold out. I find it extremely hard to believe 67 sets of "un-referred members" (each set having 25 ... a total of 1675 "un-referred members") sold out in less than 2.5 seconds.

Though members of AdBux are also members of it's forum, the member list has been disabled. Oddly, this is the first forum I've belonged to wherein the list of members was not viewable by the members. Perhaps there is a reason for preventing us to view the member list; though, I cannot imagine what the reason might be.

Ron

[horselover]

Good to see you here! Admittedly, I've been skeptical about AdBux and still am, to a degree. However, I have to agree; there's no reason to boycott at this point. I am a member, with one referral, and have been paid recently; so, I am convinced payments are being made.

However, I am not convinced as to the legitimacy of the "un-referred members" offered for sale, for several reasons. Recently, on a Monday, referrals were to be sold at 9:00 a.m., GMT. I happened to be online several minutes beforehand and thought I would check to see how quickly they sold. I refreshed the page ... not for sale; refreshed again ... 67 sets available; refreshed again ... all sold out. I find it extremely hard to believe 67 sets of "un-referred members" (each set having 25 ... a total of 1675 "un-referred members") sold out in less than 2.5 seconds.

Though members of AdBux are also members of it's forum, the member list has been disabled. Oddly, this is the first forum I've belonged to wherein the list of members was not viewable by the members. Perhaps there is a reason for preventing us to view the member list; though, I cannot imagine what the reason might be.

Ron

I think you'd have to talk to Freshy80 regarding the referrals being gone immediately as he's been the one picking up most of them. There have been many inquiries from other members as to why the referrals are gone so fast. He's the reason why.

As for the memberlist, there are a couple of reasons for it being disabled.

1. Members were spamming other members via PM with their referral links so that was one reason it was shut down.

2. Many of the members on the list are fraudulent users or scammers and Tyler doesn't want others to get that information.

3. Having a member base of more than 250,000, it's really hard on the server to have all of the members viewable.

I hope this clears up any concerns you may have, and feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

[DAzHiredGun]

I think you'd have to talk to Freshy80 regarding the referrals being gone immediately as he's been the one picking up most of them. There have been many inquiries from other members as to why the referrals are gone so fast. He's the reason why.

As for the memberlist, there are a couple of reasons for it being disabled.

1. Members were spamming other members via PM with their referral links so that was one reason it was shut down.

2. Many of the members on the list are fraudulent users or scammers and Tyler doesn't want others to get that information.

3. Having a member base of more than 250,000, it's really hard on the server to have all of the members viewable.

I hope this clears up any concerns you may have, and feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks for such an expeditious response. Your explanation is plausible; and, I see no need to pursue the issues any further.

In reading some of your prior posts, I noticed you had submitted a complaint against AdBux on 05-03-2007, after having surmised AdBux to be a genuine scam (http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=83505&postcount=57)

I presume you have since altered your opinion and would point out ... unless you retract your complaint, by contacting a current administrator (Rob or AloraLyric) and requesting the deletion of your complaint, said complaint will remain lodged and will possibly be among the five necessary to place the program on the "Watch List."

Ron

[wagdoll]

I am a current member of Adbux and a mod on the forum. I've not had any problems there and I've been there for a month.



Many people are saying that they've been paid, and they're showing payment proof. You can find this on their forum.

My payment as a mod is a certain number of referrals per week(a $40 value), so the owner is not hurting for money. He currently has 3 mods on the site.


He has also allowed us mods to upgrade our membership to premium at a discounted rate.

The admin is quite active on the forums and is completing payouts almost daily. Those who requested payouts on the 16th and 17th of June received them on June 20th.

So there's really no reason to boycott them.

Paying mods with referrals "worth" $40 doesn't mean he has $40, it he has unreferred members available and you can't really say much more than that. It doesn't say that the owner isn't hurting for money.

Upgrading at a discounted rate, how sustainable are the upgrades at their regular rate and at this discounted rate?

Completing payouts within 3 days sounds good on the surface, but how long were payouts taking before he raised payout? Other sites that had money issues and called them time issues raised payout and the payout time came down. At least it came down for a while, and then gradually went up again.

Say a site has 500 members requesting $5 and they are bringing in only $1500 a month. Remove half those members from the queue and now they can easily pay within a few days, whereas before it would have taken over a month. But the rest of those members still have that money in their account and will still request when they have $10 in their account. What do you do then if you are still only bringing in $1500 a month, especially if while you bring in $1500 the members altogether earn $1700.

[horselover]

I presume you have since altered your opinion and would point out ... unless you retract your complaint, by contacting a current administrator (Rob or AloraLyric) and requesting the deletion of your complaint, said complaint will remain lodged and will possibly be among the five necessary to place the program on the "Watch List."

Ron

I already contacted Rob and asked to remove my complaint. I don't recall how long ago it was, but the only indication wouuld be my question somewhere on the forum regarding how to withdraw a complaint.

[horselover]

I already contacted Rob and asked to remove my complaint. I don't recall how long ago it was, but the only indication wouuld be my question somewhere on the forum regarding how to withdraw a complaint.

Sorry for double posting, but I found what I was looking for:

05-07-2007, 05:01
DAzHiredGun
Former Administrator Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,445


Re: Adbux

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Quote:
Originally Posted by horselover
i was able to sign in yesterday and checked the update page to find out that there were new security features that they had put up that didn't work for some users. It explained why quite a few users couldn't access their accounts.

I think I'd like to withdraw my complaint, but I don't know how to do so.


You might try to PM Rob or AloraLyric, give the name and approximate date you submitted you complaint, and request the complaint be deleted.


Ron


I sent my PM that day, just after reading that posting.

[DAzHiredGun]

LOL, I'd forgotten about that! Thanks for the reminder.


Ron

[julian42]

please remove this from boycott and to good sites
these guys pay
the whingers are the ones who didn't buy refferals early enough and have missed out
julian

[oltom]

As a member of Adbux who is coming up on the old payout,I might as well dump it!

[lynn55]

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[oltom]

I am holding onto adbux for now because I was able to click ads,but could not pull up my earnings!
I will give the PO time to fix the problems!