EmailTrafficKingdom support folder

[kglaser]

I noticed that the support folder for ETK has been removed. Is this because the webmaster does not provide support for the program here any longer, or is it because of some other reason?

[DAzHiredGun]

Originally posted by kglaser
I noticed that the support folder for ETK has been removed. Is this because the webmaster does not provide support for the program here any longer, or is it because of some other reason?


The support folder was removed at the same time ETK was removed from the list of "approved programs", i.e., recipients of the GPTBoycott Seal of Approval.


Ron

[Enchanted]

Why??

I was not aware there was a rule that only approved programs were to have support folders in the boycott forum. I may have overlooked such a post. Could you let me know where it says that only approved programs are allowed to have a support folder here? Thanks.

[Rob]

There is no such rule at present at GPTBoycott.Com.

However, it was felt by unanimous vote that GPTBoycott should disassociate itself with EmailTrafficKingdom after its recent troubles.

GPTBoycott.Com is here for two main purposes:
1) To inform people about the scams on the Internet, particularly with regard to the "get-paid" world.
2) To support the well-meaning, honest-paying programs on the Internet who strive to please their members, not just their bank balance.

I would like to reiterate that we try to support the honest programs, and so it was felt we should disasssociate the "Seal Of Approval" from ETK because of the vast amounts of negative press it had been receiving. For ETK to still be awarded the Seal would diminish the value of the award to other sites, which would be unfair.

I would like to remind you of our request of you to remove the GPTBoycott Seal from the ETK site.

I hope it is realised that these decisions are not finite and resolute, and should ETK become the more-stable program it once was, then of course, we would not hesitate in re-awarding the site the Seal Of Approval (should the site pass the voting procedure) and Support Folders.

Rob

[Enchanted]

Just because a program runs into problems does not mean it is scam. Every program, no matter how good it is gets negative comments at some point or another. I do not want to argue here. All I am saying is that there should have been some post to this effect before it was done. But then, that is your "unanimous" choice.

When I speak to Richard next, I will ask him to remove the seal from the site, if he does not see this post first and does it himself.

[Rob]

The removal of the Seal Of Approval does not mean that GPTBoycott is suggesting that EmailTrafficKingdom, or any other program is a scam, necessarily.

However, the choice to disassociate ourselves from ETK was due to the site, at that time, not meeting the high standards needed to be awarded and keep the GPTBoycott Seal Of Approval.

As I said earlier, it would diminish the value of the Seal to other sites, should we have let ETK keep the Seal Of Approval. As the rules state; programs who are awarded the Seal Of Approval ARE subject to frequent reviews.

Rob

[Enchanted]

I am not saying that the removal of the seal was wrong. In fact, when Ron and I had a chat and he brought this up, I said that ETK has not retained its status to continue to keep the seal any longer either. What I am saying is that just deleting ETK from the seal of approval and taking off the support folder without any reference to it until a member questions about it is not the right way of doing things.

You have a written procedure to award programs the seal of approval. Then you should also have a written procedure for the review and the removal of the seal as well.

Rob, I am sorry if I am giving you the impression that I am defending ETK. Maybe I am, to a certain extent but I am not biased irrespective what my relationship is with Richard. I respect you, Ron and the entire boycott team and the forum. Its just that I feel that this issue could have been better taken care of.

[DAzHiredGun]

Originally posted by Enchanted
You have a written procedure to award programs the seal of approval. Then you should also have a written procedure for the review and the removal of the seal as well.


Though brief, it is written on the main page, under The Voting Process: "..... the program will receive the GPTBoycott "Seal Of Approval". It will then be subject to random reinspections by GPTBoycott Staff approximately every four months."

For reasons much the same, the "Seal" was also removed from AdClickMail at the same time as its removal from ETK. You will notice there is no support folder for AdClickMail, either. Both programs fell below standard - as evidenced by the number of forum complaints and/or unanswered questions, the foremost of which being: Will the owners/sites reappear and become productive?

Having the "Seal" displayed on a site which is shown little or no interest by the site's owner, wherein said owner is unresponsive to his/her own membership (who voted to award the "Seal" to the owner), negates the value of the "Seal" itself and leads one to question the integrity of GPTBoycott.

I think you already know how I feel about having my honesty and integrity questioned; and, I feel the same about GPTBoycott.com.

Ron

[Rob]

Okay, actually I accept this point, it should have been publicly known that ETK's Support Folder and Seal were removed, and why so. In retrospect I should have posted about these, so that people, including yourself were clear as to the reasoning behind this decision.

Indeed, if we ever have to make a smiliar decision in future, I will use this as experience and make an informative post on the matter.

Rob

Originally posted by Enchanted

You have a written procedure to award programs the seal of approval. Then you should also have a written procedure for the review and the removal of the seal as well.

Rob, I am sorry if I am giving you the impression that I am defending ETK. Maybe I am, to a certain extent but I am not biased irrespective what my relationship is with Richard. I respect you, Ron and the entire boycott team and the forum. Its just that I feel that this issue could have been better taken care of.

[Enchanted]

Ron, I am not questioning anyone's honesty or integrity here, yours, Rob's or Boycott's. So please don't take this question personally.

Rob, thanks understanding my point.

[DAzHiredGun]

LOL, I know you weren't, Dil. The point I was making was that others might. Nothing you said was taken personally; I think I know you better than that. We're still friends, imo.

Ron

[Enchanted]

You will always be my friend Ron...always.