Sheila boyer of MulahMail - My Experiences

[Rob]

My experiences with Sheila.

Suffice to say, I found her extremely rude:

Sheila,

Maybe you should take a step back and think why people aren't clicking.

People don't sign-up to paid e-mail sites to become your employees. People, including myself, sign-up to earn cash. That is the sole reason people signed up to MulahMail, or any other Get-paid company.

People like companies such as InboxMint and Mojoo, because they pay, and their e-mails are to the point.

Take a look at companies such as PocketJingle and TombMailer. People like those companies (admittedly, not all) because they pay, and they send out regular emails with jokes in too.

You see how we have two different types of paid e-mail company?

However, MulahMail comes into its own category.
You've used your e-mails to criticise, slander and abuse other webmasters in competition with yourself.

I never received this e-mail. Neither did other people. Do you not think the low click-thru rates might be because some of us aren't always getting the e-mails? It's another possibility - a possiblity you should be looking into rather than disregarding.

The five referrals should have been credited to me on April 1st. I was willing to wait a few days because your were having keyboard problems apparently - that's fine.

However it's been a month now with only one e-mail. No responses to my other e-mails either. You might know what you're doing, but I don't know what you're doing, and with all the bad press you receive I can be forgiven for fearing the worst.

I thank you for giving me the five referrals, albeit over a month late, but I am shocked at your rudeness.

'continually remind you of it'?
I sent two e-mails, apart from the ones around April 1st.

By the way, I am going to post this e-mail on various forums, including my e-mails and your reply.

I leave you with this:

If you're 'not a little kid', then why do you act like one?.
Rob.


>From: "MulahMail Support" <support@mulahmail.com>
>To: <robsharpeuk@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Spring Cleaning
>Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 15:40:27 -0500
>
>ok Rob...you are trying to tell me that out of over 4700 mailings that 3500
>didnt receive the mailing...I dont believe that for 1 sec. Yea ok.
>
>Futhermore...if you want, Ill go right now and add those 5 referrals...I
>wish you luck in actually keeping them considering over 3000 members will be
>deleted. Im not a little kid and need not be reminded how to do my job and
>what I owe as Im perfectly aware of the fact. I told you would be informed
>when they were added...have I informed you?? No, I havent but you
>continually remind me of it...Im not stupid and I know what Im doing. Now if
>you dont mind, I have work to do.
>
>I guess Ill start by making sure you have those 5 referrals...just hope they
>last more than a week.
>
>Sheila
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <robsharpeuk@hotmail.com>
>To: <support@Mulahmail.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:17 AM
>Subject: Spring Cleaning
>
>
> > Rob at robsharpeuk@hotmail.com has a question:
> >
> > Spring Cleaning
> >
> > Database Cleaning?
> >
> > Well I never received your e-mail about database spring cleaning, I had to
>find it on a newsboard, so if you're getting a low click-thru rate, it's
>because not all the e-mails are being sent out.
> >
> > Furthermore, you owe my account 5 referrals through the banner contest.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
>

[Keith]

Nice letter! I cant belive she would say something like that! I also think she's a member of this board.

Keith :hehe:

[GPJohn]

Some people may have bad days, put this is simply disgusting. This is attitude that comes from within, not a bad day.

If there is one thing I have learned, never give attitude or be even remotely negatively when dealing with your members - ALWAYS be nice and polite. You never know who they really are and treating them nice comes back to help you out later. ( or vice versa the other way around for her ). :cool:

Keep us update on her response. I am REALLY curious, it is like a soap LOL! :music:

By the way Rob, I am adding you back in the spillover matrix at Gold Pro as we are getting lots of spillover now for our 19 members [Miky is doing AWESOME], so be sure to login every now and then to send those welcome and congrat letters.
:hehe:

[NetDough]

That was the main reason I dumped MulahMail, me the PTR addict!! ;)

I didn't want to be involved in all her little problems that she blew up out of proportion.

Part of the reason was she was slandering a friend of mine who didn't deserve it.

The woman doesn't know how to run a business or treat people. She needs a serious wake up call because she thinks she can be rude and nasty and people will still like her and want to be in MulahMail...

She is another one on my blacklist and I will not join or be a part of anything she has created.

Heidi

[Rob]

Another very rude reply from Sheila here... needless to say I am forming my response right now.

Rob,

People,
> including myself, sign-up to earn cash.

Ummm, yea...kinda like a job, huh!

>However, MulahMail comes into its own category.

You are right about that...Im just about the only unique paying site that
has real ideas invested into my program. And I could care less if you dont
like the way i do business, dont like it, leave.

> competition with yourself.

Thats bull****! Those are criminals, not competition.

> willing to wait a few days because your were having keyboard problems

Yes, I had keyboard problems, but I also told you and everyone else that
picked cash/referrals...that the referrals would be added soon and that I
would notify you...
due to cleaning of my base.
I also sent an announcement out to all members that included the same info
again, saying I would take care of it soon.

> rather than disregarding.

Like I said 3000 not getting it...yea...ok.

> fearing the worst.

OK, whatever. Like 5 referrals would just kill me to give to you.

> I am shocked at your rudeness.

Oh really. You think my comments were rude huh. Hows this for a rude
comment...

You are nothing more than an iSAAF wannabe....only you cant get your job
done right and Paul does.

> 'continually remind you of it'?

Ive received 3 emails in regards to this subject from you...if thats not
continually reminding me, then what is?

> By the way, I am going to post this e-mail on various forums, including my
> e-mails and your reply.

Oh, that hurts. Post this one too.

> If you're 'not a little kid', then why do you act like one?.

Just cuz I dont give a **** what you say and because I have a mind of my
own...
that makes me a kid?

You are getting all frustrated over 5 referrals...whose the kid now?

I could care less if you are supportive of my site or not and like I seen at
iSAAF...
the problem with you is that you have been infected as Paul said:
"MEC and GPTB have been infected, infected by those who iSAAF has exposed
and people who are way too quick to believe anything. "

Have a good one,
Sheila

[NetDough]

Ha ha ha she makes no sense!!

Heidi

[kahavel]

I almost signed up for it today and then I rememberd reading this and then I came back here to make sure I had the right program,I had a similar experience with clickity cash not me personaly, but he sent all the members a letter basiclly telling them they were idiots for thinking he pays real cash, that the clicikty cash is meant for advertising, so I sent him an e-mail and told him to grow up and unsubscribe me and if I got anymore e-mail from him I would report him for spam,never heard from him again:p

P.s gptr is suppose to be fun, and with people like that taking up my valuble time whinning who needs it:baaa:

[GPJohn]

I never heard of her before this but this woman really makes me mad. I would like to say more, but as a program owner I will refrain. I am sure that all of you are thinking the same. Nice work Rob on bringing us the truth again. Great work and keep it up. We support you all the way.:)

[Rob]

Here is my reply to Sheila's message:

Sheila,

I don't know you personally (fortunately), but you are the rudest person I have ever had the displeasure to communicate with in my life.

You claim you are 'just about' the only paying site with ideas... let me give you a few others with 'ideas'... InboxMint, Mojoo, EmailsForMoney, AdClickMail, GetPaidWatch... all have ideas. They all pay, and we're not bombarded with spam mail every other week by them.

Now you claim the people you have slandered are criminals. How about Marc 'jobbers' of EmailsForMoney. Is he a criminal? Has he ever been on the wrong side of the law?

Or is it a crime to like somebody you don't?

By the way, your 'oh that hurts' comment, in response to me telling you I will be posting on forums just proves my point further. My e-mail was not supposed to be offensive...

You know it is possible to send an e-mail without insulting somebody?

I am not so fussed about the five referrals. What I am concerned with is that they were awarded over a month late. It was your responsibility to clean out the database, and get ready to award the referrals on the day they were promised, April 1st.

You know another thing? iSAAF, whilst in principle is good, isn't the center of the universe. GPTBoycott strives to meet the same ideals as iSAAF. However the concepts are completely different.

iSAAF aims to expose the fraudulent companies on the Internet.
GPTBoycott aims to organise boycotts against these companies, and other fraudulent and scamming companies.

You claim that GPTBoycott has been infected by those who iSAAF have exposed... now I am going to make some assumptions here, that you are talking about Wayne Tickner of ParadiseHits, and to a lesser extent, maybe Marc of EmailsForMoney (let's face it - you're not exactly best friends with either of them are you?).

Have either of them EVER cheated their members?

As soon as reports come through that they have started cheating their members, then they will be removed straight away, because GPTBoycott has standards which we will stick to.

I'm not going to divulge into an iSAAF vs. GPTBoycott argument, because rather than being pitted against each other, we should be working together, and that is my firm belief.

So before you start criticising GPTBoycott, try and keep your personal opinions and bias out of it before passing judgement on us.

You haven't seen anything yet.

Rob

[Rob]

I just want to extend my thanks to everyone who has supported me through this. :)

[GPJohn]

Great reply!

[Rob]

Here's her *amazingly* well-thought out response:

I see you wont let me post in my defense...you must be a pathetic coward.

Can dish it out but cant take it.

Awwww.

[Rob]

Sorry for so many messages, but here's my reply to her...

Sheila, where have I once made the suggestion that you can't defend yourself?

Maybe, some of us can send an e-mail without petty insults and lies.
Maybe, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Maybe, you've finally been proven wrong.

Rob

[GPJohn]

Don't be sorry! Keep em coming...this is fun! LOL
:laugh:

[Rob]

Hmm... so she didn't verify her registration to the GPTBoycott forums and now she's blaming us...

like i said...pretty bad when you wont let me in my own section...id cut
your last email up like the last one.

scared of what i will say in regards or what...

You do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of
several reasons:
You do not have permission to access the page that you were trying to. Are
you trying to edit someone else's post or trying to access administrative
features? Check that you are allowed to perform this action in the Forum
Rules.
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account,
or it may be awaiting activation.
Logged in user: mulah [logout]

And my reply...

There is an e-mail sent to you upon sign-up, in which you must click the link to verify your sign-up.

I would've thought you'd know this, seeing as all CAC sites have it as standard. Keith hasn't done anything to your account, and neither have I. The problem is on your end.

Can't blame us for stupidity Sheila...

Rob

[NetDough]

ROFLMAO!!!!! :p

[mulah]

Hmmm...thats funny...why is my other account gone then...you tell me.

[Rob]

She just sent this out to the MulahMail members - it is absolute trash.

Not once was a MulahMail account ever deleted by myself or Keith in this forum.

I say show us these e-mails. Once we have proof that anybody has done something wrong, the will be booted. I have seen proof from all parties concerned, much of which has not been disclosed in public.

Sheila has not verified her account by the looks of things, as I told her via e-mail.

This is typical of her, telling lies to the whole member base. I honestly believe that everytime she opens her mouth, her reputation slides down a notch.

Disagree with what she says, and you'll see her true colors.



There are quite a few interesting discussions going on
in regards to my site and I want to let everyone know.

Rob, of GPTBoycott, can dish it out but cant take it...

everytime I try to reply to the thread, he wont let me or
any other threads...I even rejoined as "mulah" after he
deleted my acct as "mulahmail"

So just so everyone wants my real reply to his BS email,
Ill leave you with this....

I never once slandered Mark as he claimed,
and if his site does as so he says...

"As soon as reports come through that they have started cheating
their members, then they will be removed straight away, because
GPTBoycott has standards which we will stick to."

Then why do I have 3 emails from separate people complaining
to him about Wayne's scandelous dealings that were "cc'd" to me.

Great standards...Rob
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111

He goes on to say...

"Sorry for so many messages, but here's my reply to her...

Sheila, where have I once made the suggestion that you can't defend yourself?"

Well then why cant I post in your forum to defend myself.
Because like I emailed you...you can dish it out but cant take it.

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I also posted about this base cleaning and previous issues here:
http://www.getpaidforum.com/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000557

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If you dont like MulahMail, Im not twisting your arm to stay here.
I cant please everyone but I know there are many satisfied with
me and my site and I will continue to carry my business as I see fit.

Sheila Boyer
Owner of MulahMail

[Rob]

I demand a full retraction of your comments to the MulahMail member base.

Reasoning: If we weren't letting you post, then how did you just post then?

Simple: you didn't verify, you were in the wrong.

I searched for account 'mulahmail' and the response...
'No users found matching those criteria.'

You may have signed up as mulahmail in the old forum??

But you need to re-signup here.

Your e-mail was a pack of lies, you know it.

Originally posted by mulah
Hmmm...thats funny...why is my other account gone then...you tell me.

[mulah]

You just tryed to tell me I have an acct under SheilaM(ulahmail)

Dont you think I know what I signup under.

I signed up under MulahMail and now have no acct.
So I create this one and yes I did just verify it btw...

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You want a retraction? Hah.

You staightup lied about me slandering Marc, which never happened.

Furthermore, I still believe you are a wannabe and am sick of wasting my time on you.

You also received a slew of proof already and you are a coward.
I have the emails and Im not retracting because its all true except for the "verification of mulah" for posting.

Which they can read here, when they come.

[mulah]

oh what...now you are deleting your own threads huh

[Keith]

I signed up under MulahMail and now have no acct.

I have just looked everywhere and cant find any trace to that Mulahmail account. Rob and I didnt delete it! Did you sign up with the old forum?

You staightup lied about me slandering Marc, which never happened.

Well we can just ask marc. I'm not sure if you did or not.

I have the emails and Im not retracting because its all true except for the "verification of mulah" for posting.

It's not a lie, it's true. Any member that signs up will know that this is not a lie! And you couldnt have logged in with out that email b/c it contains your password.

Keith :hehe:

[mulah]

Ya know...it just occured to me.


Hypocrite

Thats what you are...you were wrong about posting that
so-called SheilaM acct and instead let people know you are wrong...you just try to hide it.

Great site you guys have here...posting like you know everything and then delete stuff out when wrong.

I at least own up to faults such as your verification link.

[earners]

With regards to the recent members email from "Rewards@mulahmail.com (note there was no reward for us "employees"

OK Sheila here's the score.

Again you have abused your member list in order to attempt to discredit others.

Your email does not carry a disclaimer

I have reported you to the relevant people for spamming.
I am in the process of reporting you to your host and ISP for abusing your member list.

Rob has done absolutely nothing wrong. Neither have I.
All anyone has done is voice their concerns about the way you are treating your members and running your program.

I'm so glad you brought these discussions to your members so they can see what you are really like and the way you try to discredit others. What bothered me was that you never put any links in your email. Why not send the links to all the forums to your members so they can see what you are really like.

I hope your members will look and see that whenever someone tries to say something or voice an opinion that you reply with malicious and downright rude answers, even to personal emails. Just look at your reply to Rob as an example.

Let's hope many more of your members take the appropriate action against you once they realise what you are up to.

And do NOT involve Emailsformoney in your problems, this is one of your members posting and has absolutely nothing to do with Emailsformoney.

And for those few friends of Shiela - What do you think now??

[earners]

Shiela

Is there a reason why the majority of your members received the above email from you when barely anyone got the one about you cancelling inactive accounts?

Marc

[astrangemix]

As far as I know I have received all MM e-mails. Maybe the problem is only with free accounts like yahoo and hotmail that are famous for misplacing e-mails.

[crazymailman]

maybe if mulah mail paid us to read all that crap she writes about everyone we could make some money there.

Alas it's too late, I cancelled my account. She can keep my 34c. She's gonna need it when there aren't any more members for her to whine to. LMAO

[NetDough]

Originally posted by crazymailman
maybe if mulah mail paid us to read all that crap she writes about everyone we could make some money there.

Alas it's too late, I cancelled my account. She can keep my 34c. She's gonna need it when there aren't any more members for her to whine to. LMAO

*agreed* that was the same reason I left. All the negativity and bad karma was just too much for me to bother with.

I have enough problems in real life without getting grief online.

Heidi

[kahavel]

you know sheila if you feel you have been given a raw deal this is not the way to handle, if you want you buissness to last you need to act in a proffessinoal manner, or should I say like a lady!
The proper way to handle this is with a heart felt apology and perhaps a kind worded explanation! Your behavior has shown me everything said is in fact true, that you are extremely rude! I almost made the mistake of signing up at your site, I was invited thru an e-mail invite so I e-mailed that person back with a link to this thread......Shame on you:(

[Rob]

Actually Sheila, I can admit when I'm wrong.

I was wrong about the SheilaM comment, but the post was only up for 5 minutes or so, and as soon as I found it was wrong, I deleted it straight away.

There have been accusations of posts and members being deleted.

I swear under God's name that I did not delete any member, or any post relating to MulahMail. Since the new forum was introduced, the biggest thing I have done on the Admin side is modify a post for referral linking.

There are two major things that cen be revealed soon, regarding this matter. We need to rectify them, because one is a big problem.

Originally posted by mulah
you were wrong about posting that
so-called SheilaM acct and instead let people know you are wrong...you just try to hide it.