Date Boycotted: Before 2007 URL: http://www.allyousubmitters.com
AllYouSubmitters, commonly referred to as AYS, is a "paid-to-read" program and reportedly has a member base exceeding 7,300. However, an increasing number of members are becoming more and more dissatisfied with the program's lack of support and non-payment of earnings. Members, current and former, continue to report their inquiries fail to be answered, accounts disappear without explanation and payout is never received.
AllYouSubmitters started and popularised a dangerous trend with regards to payment standards, stating that payments will only be made to members "as revenue comes in". This leaves their business in a precarious situation - constantly in debt, and only paying members when they can afford it. As a result, some members have reported non-payment for over a year, or worse - the deliberate avoidance of payments by the staff of AllYouSubmitters. With what few payouts are made taking longer-and-longer to process, many members who join the program now, manage to reach the $50 minimum payout by adhering to the site's strict Terms of Service, and click away to stay active while waiting for their payment, may never see their money. It is for this primary reason that GPTBoycott enforces a formal boycott against AYS.
It is clear from the above that the site has many problems with regards to customer support, as well as payment. For most businesses in this industry, problems on this scale would result in widespread dissatisfaction being echoed on forums across the Internet. In order to combat this, AllYouSubmitters decided to include the following lines in their Terms of Service: "AYS will not allow members to post any libelous statements, which may harm AYS PTR. The penalties that may result from forum abuse are one or more of the following: warning, monetary fine or account suspension with forfeiture of earnings". To GPTBoycott, thinly veiled threats such as this are not acceptable within the industry, especially where users expressing legitimate dissatisfaction at the policies at AllYouSubmitters find their accounts are closed, due to an overtly liberal interpretation of the word "libelous", and the simple fact that such posts "harm AYS PTR" within the industry. It is for this second reason that AYS has been formally boycotted.
Name: Eugene Date: March 13, 2005 Comments: I have reached the payout last January and waited for over a year for payment. I went to log into my account which i have done at least once a week so that I wouldn't be deleted just to find out I don't exsist in their database....I wrote to find out why and I got a reply saying Inactive account....I kept all email response from them..So i lost $180 and they done the same with my wife...delted her saying the same thing....This owner of All You Submitters is just another theive and I will be looking into takeing legal action
Name: Catherine Marks Date: September 14, 2004 Comments: Cash out $50 on Jan.9 then changed the terms.Cash out at $100,then $150. Sent 3 emails asking when I was going to get paid no answer at no time.Knew I was never going to get paid so got out.
Name: Carol Fleming Date: September 25, 2004 Comments: I have my own horror story of AYS. I had been clicking for quite some time and back in Dec last year I clicked for a payout. The message on screen said I would receive a confirmation email, which I did not. So in late Jan or Feb I clicked again, still no confirmation email. I went into the forum in May, to ask for advice to be told that I'd clicked again in April - which I did not. It was at this time that I was told that each time you click, you're placed back at the bottom of the list again. Back then the wait for a cheque was 5 months, It's now 10 months. (My payout should be over $300australian). After going into the forums I was quickly attacked by the pack, for saying it was a very unprofessional way to run a business. So, after that comment I was told I would be getting a full payout and my account closed, they said they'd made my account a 'full payout' instead of the $50 as in my request, but I was now on the bottom of the list again. My account has been deleted, I have no way of contacting them as it won't allow me in the fourm, and any emails I send them go unanswered. A friend told me they're still paying from last December.
I still say this is no way to run a business, it's very poor form.
Name: Rachel Rowden Date: September 27, 2004 Comments: Requested payout at $65.00,then received an email saying payouts would only be $50.00 but the full $65.00 would be deducted from my account,checked back on payout status 3 months later,i had continued to be active the entire time,and found my account deleted.
Name: Maureen Neuhaus Date: October 5, 2004 Comments: I reached $50 payout and requested cashout. Was told I would receive an email in approximately a month to finish the withdrawal process. When it didn't come I was going to login to write support and my account no longer existed.
Name: Jypsy Date: October 1, 2004 Comments: Deleted my account after waiting for payout since late January 2004. Reason given, according to others was administration didn't like criticism. I was never personally given a reason. They just deleted my account. I used the contact form to inquire about my account and never heard from them.
Name: Sherry Barton Date: August 5, 2004 Comments: I have belonged to this site for over 2 years and have never been paid yet. I reached their $50 payout and requested last August and never received anything but waited patiently till after the first of the year when I finally inquired when I would get it and got the answer that I would get it within a month IF I had not repeatly hit the payout button.(which I had not!) I never got it but they in the meantime had changed to auto payout or something once you hit the payout limit. I now have over $100 in account and have been only clicking 1-2 links per week so as not to be wasting my time there anymore and today when I went to click my link I discovered they have deleted my account. All I wanted was my money and they just refuse to give it!!
Name: Meroveus Date: August 24, 2004 Comments: My account was fined for forum abuse at GetPaidForum (not AYS forum) for making the " false and unfocumented" statement that "AYS is not trying anything to get its payments back on time." My entire AYS account was later suspended, which means they are keeping my personal info, which Linder already divulged publicly in part (see earlier complaint). The Terms now say they will payout when they get paid, which seems to me to make it an illegal Ponzi scheme, but you be the judge. My username at AYS was tekora@refercent.
Name: lala palooza Date: August 29, 2004 Comments: Just recently Sharon started openly posting ALL personal information gathered on former members who have been removed for suspicion of using cheatware, clicking 3 or more cheat links over a period of time, and in at least one case, for having more than one account on the same computer. Instead of just posting the user ID like most program forums do, Sharon is posting the person's full name and address, email address, eGold account number if one was given, and their encrypted password which could be used in another CC scripted program in which they used the same password! This information is available to the over 5000 members of the AYS forum.
When asked to stop this violation of privacy, she refused to and attempted to justify it because she thinks it's a way to scare people into not cheating. Anybody who disputed her has been subjected to rude comments from both Sharon and other AYS members.
Name: Judy Basso Date: August 29, 2004 Comments: I requested payment from them, then I was deleted. I have written them several times, they won't answer my email. I believe I deserve an explanation as to why I was deleted for no apparent reason. They owe me money.
Thanks for listening.
Name: desmond Date: June 8, 2003 Comments: This program never pays when we you reach cashout. Before they change to a new script, I reached cashout and wrote in to inform them about that. They never reply. I then realise that they were trying to enhance their scripts and I thought I should give them sometime. About 1 or 2 months later, they changed to a new scripts and then all the rules have changed from there. The never inform the members or communicate with us. I wrote to them politely about my request but they never reply. I waited for a few days, wrote them, again they did not reply.
A week later, I reminded them again and still they refused to reply me and never intend to pay me.
Recently, many of my friends reported the same problem.
Name: Tammie Allen Date: June 17, 2003 Comments: I joined AYS when they first started 6-8 months ago. I upgraded to Premium membership, which as I remember was not cheap. I put up with the fact that I never received payout from the first go around like I was supposed to, when they came back and raised payout to $50.00. They did at least transfer my $20 some dollars they had never paid me from the old program to the new one. I got to less then $10 away from the new $50 payout. I was in my account one day, and the next day when I went to sign in, I was gone. No such user name, no such email, nothing.
I have contacted AYS 6-7 times. They will not even give me the courtesy of a response. I use the contact form on site mainly, but I sent an email from my email once, with a read receipt, which they returned, but no response.
I am now out $40 plus dollars, the cost of my upgrade, my 4 downline members, and as luck would have, 5-8 people (I have the emails), that were able to sign up on my referral link during the time my account disappeared.
The fact that my account has been ??? I don't know what, my money has been stolen, and they will not even acknowledge me is just wrong.
I am a webmaster for 3 sites, I do not spam, I did nothing wrong, and I spend 15-18 hours a day on the Internet, so I know my email account did not bounce. Plain and simple, they stole my money.
Sincerely,
Tammie Allen
tallen13@cox.net
Name: Mike Manfrin Date: June 19, 2003 Comments: Closed TONS of accounts for no reason whatsoever. Mine for example. I had $23 in earnings there as well as an active downline and a gold membership.
Closed it.
Theres probably a good 30 threads on ays at gpf.
Name: Rob Garcikovic Date: June 19, 2003 Comments: First of all this program changed terms and didn't tell members about that./ Then i reaad their email about not clicking all links at the same time, i stoped. Only after reading email i stoped. they deleted me!
Name: Philip Dobson Date: January 19, 2005 Comments: About time this was boycotted properly. Having wasted time clicking to keep the account alive while waiting months for payment, then finding the account vanished after coming back from holiday, most likely due to inactivity, I sympathise with all the others who had the same or similar happen to them. Apparently the latest snide move was to make the accounts read-on-site only, so that the Ker-Ching Cash Webmistress had her account with $190 amount owed, deleted while she was too busy to keep logging in, and forgot for a while to do so in time (no emails reminding that the account was in danger). The sort of trick worthy of some of the other more notorious scam sites, and a reason to ban just for that.
Name: Murray KelseyP Date: September 16, 2003 Comments: I was at $44.00 dollars in earnings and was very careful not to click on any of the numerous delete links that they seem to be sending on purpose. Well guess what... like many in the GPF... my account has been deleted. This is ridiculous... you work so hard and even if you click on a delete (which I did not) your account is deleted. Do not they see that someone with $44.00 is a faithful clicker... are they all perfect there... they never make mistakes. Like many, I feel he uses this as a means to stay alive. I mean figure out the math at what he sells ads for and what he has to pay out.
My account was zzmario
Name: Hesz Magdolna Date: September 17, 2003 Comments: Hello!
I must to tell my ugly story with All You Submitters to somebody..
I have heard about AYS from a pick up of mine.
I signed up by it in the end of march or beginning of april in this year 2003.
I worked honestly everyday, and just! when my earnings have got 10 $
(this was the minimum payout by AYS in that time)
AYS hackered and their server out!
When they back -approx. 3 weeks later-
I (and more members too) worked further.
While I couldn't login from day to day.
I asked WHY? from them many times but I haven't got answers.
I was very sad it goes without saying but I didn't give up and I signed up by AYS again with another email address.
I though in myself maybe it was my fault deleting my account..
You know, if somebody use another language as vernacular it is possible to misunderstand something easely.
Well! They deleted my account and have took my money but I gave trust to they still!
Anotherhand I have got just 10$ singn up bonus -as any new member- and I decided I will be all there much more in the future.
I worked honestly again EVERY SINGLE DAY!
And when I did more as 30 $! it happened to same as before:
I couldn't login from day to day again.
I also asked them why what is the problem but I never have got answer.
I was very angry with them and I wrote my oppinion their work: it's too easy to earn money in such way... :-(
After all -I stupid- I signed up third time too!
My plan was that, I will ask them -while I'm a member of AYS- that tell me what is a reason....
Yes I know already, this is foolish!
They deleted my account for the third time too, but I'm not in surprise.
I did ask nothing.
I want to tell You about me:
I'm 48 years old and I say sooth and I never cheat...
It was very important in my familie:
to live true life.
Of course, the things (aren't) goes just a simple ways but it have to keep this idea in the first.
In the end: Please take a look on the AYS Forum!
All You Submitters fool played more members too.
I'm so sorry istead everybody.
Thank You for your patient to hear me out.
Sincerely
letters
magdolina
magdika
P.S.: those were my accounts :-)
Name: fran perrone Date: September 19, 2003 Comments: I have mysteriously lost my account --I do NOT believe that I ever clicked on a cheat link. I am very certain that webmaster deleted my account simply because I was 2.90 cents away from reaching payout.
I have emailed admin
eleven(11) times and never, ever received one response.
I am incredibly bitter about this and consider this the worst experience I have ever had in ptr.
I know I am not alone here. I get sick when I think of all the time and all the emails I read only to get deleted by this webmaster.
PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS PROGRAM.
Name: Theresa Crawford Date: September 26, 2003 Comments: I had an account with them, and had a decent amount of money as well. When I neared payout, my account was deleted. I wrote to them, and never received a reply. My boyfriend also had an account with them, and was nearing payout. This morning, his account has been deleted, with no explanation. We were following their TOS, and both had our own computers with separate IP numbers.
Name: Santino Date: January 18, 2005 Comments: I quit AYS last december. I had requested a $50 payment since February the 16th. Not only they never paid me, but they never answered the 3 email I have sent
TY,
Fallone
Name: Tony Walters Date: December 8, 2003 Comments: I have not officially done this so here goes. I worked hard at AYS almost from the time it opened. I had 0 downline so I had to work to get enough to request payout. I finally reached payout and requested payment. The next day I was deleted. I tried to send e-mails requesting information with no luck. Finally I went to the forum and began looking around. I noticed someone that had the same problem and they AYS responded that they had clicked a cheat link. I mentioned that the information they posted did not even show the IP address. Linder posted a nasty response and said I had also clicked the cheat link. I never received a cheat link so I could not have clicked it. It is amazing to me that just when they have money problems they suddenly have 700+ members that have requested payout click a cheat link. If possible could you let me know how many complaints you have received on them. I appreciate your effort here.
Name: crazygirlnmbr1 Date: February 17, 2004 Comments: I was a member of AYS for 5 months. During that time I am positive I did not click a cheat link as people were complaining at the time. I was extra careful. I also know that I did not hit the redemption cheat link - I noticed it right away and hit the payout button on the bottom. Also I do not have multiple accounts. I own 3 computers and no one touches them but me. I live alone and no one else has access to my computers.I reached payout around the middle of January 2004. A few days after I reached payout my account was deleted. Emails to the PO went unanswered.
Name: Darlene Garry Date: December 6, 2004 Comments: I requested payout over 6 months ago for $100 and never got paid then got deleted for inactivity when i was remaining active.
Name: Barbara Date: March 9, 2004 Comments: I think this company should be boycotted because when you are close to reaching payout they delete you from the database....Deleting people for no reason whatsoever is not good business practice or good business sense....I think something should be done about this.
Name: Paul Gray Date: March 17, 2004 Comments: I requested cash payment after reaching the $50.00 payout level and they deleted my account and stole my money
Name: Benjamin L. Andersen Date: March 24, 2004 Comments: AYS just sent out a cheat mail deducting $50 from your account without any kind of fail-safe or timer, resulting in a large amount of people losing $50 without any possibility of correcting the mistake.
The ToS is very vague on this point, and doesn't specify that you must read the eMail, just the "ad", leaving the problem of what compiles an "ad".
Name: leah m. barnett Date: March 26, 2004 Comments: hi. they had a hard to understand cheat link and took 50.00 which i think is theft. they kept promising and promising to pay and never did. i complained on the above and they took another 10.00 for no reason. i complained again and they took the remaining 78.00 and closed my account. all that clicking to put in their pockets. i am not the only one. this place deserves a boycott. thank you and have a great day.
Name: Dianne Branham Date: April 3, 2004 Comments: AYS has blocked or deleted out my account. I read and printed out the TOS. I requested payout at double the minimum. I put myself in vacation mode until I could return from my Mother's funeral. I returned to find out that I am denied access to my account. They have not responded to my e-mail request for information in this matter.
Name: patricia wilds Date: April 15, 2004 Comments: they delete accounts..the ptr links has hidden cheat links..ok..but..you cant read the letters on the link until you click on them, then the letters on the link lights up. scam if i ever saw one. they wont answer any of my emails..i had over 100.00 in my account..all gone..maybe its because i requested a payout..many other members in the same situation..please avoid this AYS..thank you
Name: James Date: April 6, 2005 Comments: after requesting payout... i emailed them trying to see if they could paypal it instead of sending a check... the admin responded with... "sorry, you deleted your own account" not sure what he was talking about but sure enough my account was gone.. and i didnt cancel it.
Name: Jimmy Date: May 11, 2004 Comments: I am still a member, but probably won't be after they see that I posted here! lol They don't like for anyone to speak out against what they do. I am owed over $100 (would be more if it weren't for that cheat link, but I accepted that). Problem is, I've been waiting close to 6 months for my payment. And from seeing everything that has happened in their program, the way the owners treat their members, etc., I doubt that I'll ever see it.
Name: albert Date: May 16, 2004 Comments: i was a member of all you submitter for some months I reached payout and put in my redemption. I understood they were behind in payments and was waiting to see what happened. I was going in to the site a few times a week to click on some emails to keep myself active. I tried to sign on today and low and behold they have deleted my account. I am really starting to lose faith in siters that do this and am really beginning to wonder if there are really any hones ptr sites out there
Name: Lisa Strauch Date: October 21, 2004 Comments: They have owed me $100 for many months and have deleted me from their database. Convenient, huh? And no, I do not cheat.
Name: Rasa Date: May 31, 2004 Comments: When I was near payout ($50), I think, I was deleted. Now I can't login to my account, saying that my username is invalid, and my email is not in their database. I wrote about it to AYS, bet they don't want to reply me..
Name: Merle Date: June 15, 2004 Comments: I just saw something on the AYS forum again about me by the guy linder. something about change of their forum rules, and more insults by him about my username babayam. Here is some more about what happend to me at ALL YOU SUBMITTERS.COM Please read some of the posts under babayam. its in problems and complaints. I was not around when all this happend. It happend on sunday the 13th of this month. Here is a little more about this again. Hi. someone hacked my webtv set top box while I was not home, they hit my ays account on the ays forum. It looks like they still are bad mouthing me, and I tried to explain what happend to the ays forum and got no help or support at all. I have been reading the fake posts under my username babayam and babayam55. It happend sunday the 13th. They are calling me names on their ays forum. I have never cheated on any email program ever. I just have a little webtv box. Someone named Linder that I have never talked with in my life is putting my name up on the ays forum and stuff from my personal all you submitters account info. I have tried to contact him before and never got a reply ever at all. My name is Merle and im over 60 years old, there are people saying rude and nasty stuff on the ays forum, half of what I dont even understand. I clicked on their paid email ads for months on end, and was over one hundred dollars in my earnings with a point in my account. I cant login at my account with all you submitters.com anymore for some reason. Im not out to get anybody I want to talk with the owner of all you submitters.com and fix the problem. If it is a honest program, why cant the owners just talk with me about all this? I did all that work clicking and promoting their program that I had faith in. Merle. PS. I have now stoped the problem with those kids hacking my box. So can anyone help? I would like to go back to clicking if ays is real. Im also looking into legal help for the posting of some of my personal All You Submitters.com account info, if need be.
Name: Frederick Caridis Date: October 15, 2004 Comments: On sept 23 was banned from the AYS forum, 2 days later found that there was an imposed Forum Abuse tagged into my account, sent 5 emails requesting a chance for vocalization about the so called "Forum Abuse" eventually account became suspended and again sent in 5 emails requesting explanation as to why account was suspended. Now since i had no AYS forum rights then I could not be heard to log a complaint.
Developed a webpage dedicated to the "Case" as I call it ezplaining in details (granted one sided since no response from AYS was ever achieved) at http://s88782076.onlinehome.us/justice.html and recorded documentaion of the account that is suspended with screen shots, this is not set up on any web page as of yet.
Entire package is available upon request if so desired.
Thank You
Frederick Caridis
firedragon
Name: Percelia Easters Date: June 19, 2004 Comments: I summitted request for payment after more than a year membership I never got it, they do not answer my email now they say my account unknown
Name: Jeffrey Johnson Date: January 16, 2005 Comments: I was canned for a forum post not even on AYS. They will not undo this or pay me so I will sue them.
Name: Amanda Date: July 16, 2004 Comments: I requested payout in December. Now it is mid-July and I am still waiting for my money. Recently, the PO posted on the forum that they are halting payments for at least 3 weeks so they can catch cheaters. I am not a cheater, and I'm sick of waiting. I've waited over 6 months for my payout and now I'm told I'll have to wait longer. The fact is, AYS cannot pay all their members, they're just delaying the inevitable. They don't bring in enough money for each ad to pay everyone. This program is a disgrace, they treat their members as if they're all cheaters, and make us wait more than half a year for a payout. And they expect us to remain active to avoid getting deleted. This program needs to be boycotted because nobody should have to wait 6 months for a payout. Let's take a stand, and let the owners know that we will not tolerate this treatment!
Name: jeffrey babbitt Date: November 14, 2004 Comments: webmaster deleted my account for no reason.he had owed me payout for over 6 months. i kept on reading minimal amounts as to not get removed,but he did it to me anyways.webmasters don't allow his ads to be placed on your sites let him just go away
Name: Larry L Homan Date: December 5, 2004 Comments: I Cashed out over 4 months ago and haven't been paid yet. They owe me 50 dollars.
Name: david baker Date: December 15, 2004 Comments: About march, I put in for 100 dollars I had in credit. I logged on often to keep up my membership. On dec. 9, I attempted to log on.
After I requested info why I couldn't log on,I received the following message for AYS on Tue, 14 Dec 2004
Hello David,
I'm sorry, but your account was deleted for inactivity on
12/07/2004. From the
terms of service:
Members must stay active in this program. This requires
logging into Member's
account at least once every 15 days. Failure to do so will
result in the
closing of Member's account and the loss of Member's
earnings.
Each person's account has a vacation setting that can be
set for up to 30 days.
This prevents deletion when the script runs checking for
inactivity.
Unfortunately, by going inactive you forfeit your earnings.
Regretfully,
Admin
AYS PTR Program
According to them, I have lost $100.00 plus the $65.00 in credit.
Name: Nicole Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: The site is now one year behind in payouts. No payments at all have been made in the last two weeks at least. They admit to having paid out a thousand dollars to "employees" in a month where only two members got paid. They delete members for "forum abuse" on forums they don't even own, yet regularly abuse members on their own forums for doing only the minimum required to stay active in the program.
Name: Orianne Date: December 21, 2004 Comments: Cashed out 2. Once back in april 2004. asked nicely for payment. was then unable to log in anymore.
Name: Joseph Hall Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: Any program that is 1 year behind in payments and has deleted 26,000 members hould be boycotted.
Also, they wrongly delete and ban members for asking for their money and not taking their stock answers.
Name: Dawn Riga Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: As a former member i can't believe the site still exists. Underselling ads, more than 1 year behind in payouts. And i found the abuse of their members intolerable.
Dawn Riga
Name: investkid Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: I'm a member of AYS.
AYS started paying December 2003 payout requests on April 18, 2004. As of today, December 21, 2004, the December 2003 payouts are not finished. Which means that for the past 8 months, AYS has been paying December 2003 payout requests and said payout requests are not completed yet. They are in fact 1 year behind in payout vs. request dates.
In addition, under their "forum rule abuse" for which AYS WM and AYS administrator are prosecutor, judge and jury, quite a few members of their forum were banned from the forum or/and had their member's account suspended, deleted or fined ($10-$50)for posting questions or comments that were considered to be libelous by them, the whole injustly and without proof of intent of libel whatsover.
Name: Kathleen Glaser Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: This program is run very unprofessionally and without regard for its members. The two persons running the program have been uniformly rude, unprofessional, and unfair for most of the last twelve months of this program's operation, in my opinion. The rules to the program are ever-changing to a ridiculous extent, and seem to be aimed at deleting as many people as possible to decrease what is clearly a considerable debt load. I was a member of this program since its launch about 2 years ago, and watched it deteriorate exponentially over the past year. Members were belittled, ignored, and deleted for the most tenuous of reasons. Furthermore, the activity requirements dictate that one remains "active" for months on end while waiting for a payout requested over a year ago (the wait time for payment is currently over 12 months, which is utterly ludicrous).
Name: anonymous Date: December 22, 2004 Comments: Redeemed January 18th, 2004 for $50 payout for upgraded member. Am still waiting.
Name: Tony Walters Date: December 24, 2004 Comments: They are over a year behind in payments. They have been systematically rude to members of the forum. They have given out personal information.
Name: barbara brundon Date: December 25, 2004 Comments: The admin. staff has comitted what I believe to be a crime. They bounced a check to a member, granted that can happen to anyone, but than refused to honor it.
Name: Tina Date: December 28, 2004 Comments: I reached payout in Jan. 2003 and clicked a link within every 15 days for almost a year and was deleted two days before x-mas for supposedly being inactive. It's pretty sad that I got to payout almost a year ago and now will definitely not see the money. Although I never counted on getting it until it was in my hand. but at least this might help bring in help so you may boycott this site.
Name: prefer to remain anonymous Date: December 28, 2004 Comments: I have been a member of this program for close to two years. I was paid early on, but I have been waiting for my second payment for over nine months. Payments are now over a year behind. As of today 12-28-04, no payments have been made since 12-4-04. The TOS of this program has been changed many times, members are threatened with monetary fines if they speak of AYS in a negative but truthful manner. Accounts have been deleted for what has been described as forum abuse. This is a non-paying program that needs to be boycotted now.
Name: Dirk Buchmann Date: January 3, 2005 Comments: Account and earnings revoked for "alleged" forum abuse. I dispute any said abuse before I was deleted. Linder also used posts of mine "after" I was deleted to justify deleting me and ripping me off! Total owed to me is $186 or so.
Name: aries58cf Date: January 3, 2005 Comments: I have been a member of this site for long time and I reached payout 3 times. The waiting period for payout has been over a year! I was inactive temporarily due to job interviews and christmas planning and due to that my account was deleted due to inactivity even though they owed me $150.00. My earnings were forfeited and I lost all that I legitimately earned! I have had it with this program as they are farrr behind with payouts, they don't answer emails and they delete accounts without paying their members what they earned!
Name: Regina Phalange :-) Date: January 3, 2005 Comments: Hi...I think I already filed a complaint several months ago, but this is for a different reason, even though it's still against AYS. Obviously the payout situation is beyond ludicrous now, but despite the fact that 2003 payments are still not finished over a year later, this program still has devoted members who are now trying to get a movement going to "help Linder and Sharon" by donating every single one of their clicks for an entire month just to help people start getting paid again. This kind of devotion is being shown to a man who, when I asked why there had been no payout updates for several weeks, launched into a tirade against me in which he had the gall the make the ridiculous statement that AYS' problems were MY fault, as well as anyone else who had "forced" them to become a little more sustainable, even though he and Sharon had been against it. This is a program that will never change because it's owner refuses to accept responsibility for it's problems. The thousands of people who are owed money will likely never see any of it as a result of his refusal to admit his own mistakes. Please folks -- the first boycott was lame and you were right to rescind it; however, all these months later, nothing has gotten better and in fact, the site is deeper in debt now than it was at the time of the original boycott. Thanks.
Name: Ray Atkinson Date: January 11, 2005 Comments: Chronically late payouts, as in non-existant. Cancelling accounts without warning.
Name: CATHRINE SCOTT Date: February 17, 2005 Comments: ays deleted me just as i was about to be paid (i thought). i suppose it was due to inactivity as i was sick for a week and couldn't login for that time. he owed me over $50. cathy scott
Name: Henrietta Roberts Date: January 28, 2005 Comments: Hi, I was a member of AYS for over a year and was due for payout when they started Jan's payout. They were on Dec. the last time I was able to get into my account. So I would have been paid anytime. I was at their site on Dec 20th of 2004 and had my account deleted on Jan.1,2005. Their site states that you have 15 days before your account is deleted for inactivity yet as you can see, my account was deleted before those 15 days were up. So i figure since I was getting close to payout and they owed me 185.71 it was easier for them just to delete my account then to pay what they owed me. They are CROOKS.....
Name: Carol Date: February 3, 2005 Comments: Non payment of 100.00 for months. Have sent emails with no response and no payment
Name: June MacArthur Date: February 5, 2005 Comments: These people are the biggest crooks I have ever seen. You work hard and daily but when its time for payout they delete your account for no other reason than to NOT make payment. They never answer any emails...all you get it a link saying your account is not recognized. That was after I was awaiting a payment of $150.00, they just didn't know me anymore.
Name: Vaiduoklis Date: April 15, 2005 Comments: They are more than a year behind in payments. Redeemed in February 2004 for $100, than in May for $50 payout. I'm still waiting.
Name: Jackie Date: April 16, 2005 Comments: I was a member starting 8/03 clicked to 50 dollar payout without any refs, I requested payout and waited while I clicked away. I waited but didn't see a deduction from my account so redeemed again but now you had to receive a point before you get payout, so I got a point for payout. Clicked and waited, account rose over 100 dollars, requested another payout their response was a full or partial now since you could only request payout at $50,$100, etc.. so now I have 1 partial payout and 1 full payout. The programs is having a little trouble but I click away and wait on payout now here come the cheat links, I avoid all of them, I click on for weeks and then here come the sneaky links, I click one I lose $50,I accept it.They now anounce they need help to pay members quicker so they ask for donations upgrades and banner ads, I upgrade. Now that's $100 I gave back meanwhile links are now 5 and 2 cents and I'm still active and waiting on over a $100 in payout. I inquired about payout they told me I was on the list as 12/29/03 cashout date and they were paying 10/03 dates and this was 4/04. I clicked a few links each week to keep active to get paid. In the beginning of 01/05 they were paying the last week in 12/03 payments, MY PAYDATE. I logged into my account 3 weeks later and could not get into it, I contacted them and was told read the TOS you have not logged in within 15 days, the TOS changed and everyone was sent an email. They have on site inbox only but I still get email from their message boards to my email address.
Name: Joel Marquez Date: April 19, 2005 Comments: I joined this program in late 2003, Reached payout status in May of 2004, Waited until November, e-mail them, they said payment takes a while and there was no bank funds. My account was deleted in 2005 and I got no payment at all.
Name: Stacey Spraggins Date: April 21, 2005 Comments: I was an upgraded member of ays.I paid for the upgrade with earnings and reached the 50 dollar payout and requested the payout.I dont remember when it was that I requested but I do remember it was supposed to take about 4 months to get paid.In the time wiating I had earned almost enough to request payout again when I as well was deleted for inactivity.Now I know that I logged in atleast once a week and I had emailed them about one of there cheat link emails that was only supposed to show the link if you where using cheat software.I dont use cheat software and by the way that email came to my email at home(NOT THE INBOX AT THE SITE)the owner is a crook,theif,scumbag and a few more choice names that can't be posted.
Name: marinel Date: April 25, 2005 Comments: i requested payout on august 2004 after reaching the $50 payout. I never received my money, nor was I able to access my account again after they deleted my account without any warning. and to think that i login to my account everyday just to remain active! i should have known they'll do this to me.
Name: Brailey Date: April 28, 2005 Comments: Redeemed for $200 payout in Feb 2004. Waited patiently over a year, clicking diligently.
During that year I earned another $50, which I donated back into the site.
In April 2005 my cat died in the middle of final exams, and they deleted me for inactivity.
Name: Laura Date: May 11, 2005 Comments: Ive got paid once, I think Ive received my 1st check on March 2004.
After this Ive gone on clicking and got a redemption. At that time they allowed redemptions for "Search ads".
Ive gone on clicking...and made 2 requests:
1- $50.00
2-$56.00
As the Ays scams word was running and Ive realized, Ive asked to refund my account and then redeem.
Ive sent a signup form search engine; it was rejected as sSharom considered it like a search ad. No disucion. I was asked to change my ad. Ok Ive changed it by another one about astrology with google ads...what did happened? Ive lost my account at google cause of bots clicks...grrrrrrrr
Ive got mad, not only they dont pay, plus they take a simple sign up form as it were a Search ad and finally, the remaining members use boooots..........
The worst PTR ....
Name: Vaiduoklis Date: June 14, 2005 Comments: It's the ultimate scam on the internet, very sophisticated and saucy.
Name: Marie Date: June 23, 2005 Comments: I can't believe how long these members stayed with AYS.After a certain period of time ,they must have known that the webmasters there are nothing but a bunch of crooks and liars.And yet,after reading these posts,I read that a lot of them were or are members for over 2 years or more. Why take the abuse?Only to have your accounts deleted,recieve insults, or be accused of cheating.the only cheaters here are the people who run AYS. But by staying with them, your keeping them in business.
Name: Gen Date: August 11, 2005 Comments: I was a member for over a year. I had over $150 in my account. With no referrals. I used to spend nearly ALL of my online time on their site clicking. I requested payout a couple months before my next semester of school was going to start (it was going to be my sophomore year of college.. and evern $150 would have helped a lot with books) about 2 hours (yes HOURS) after I requested cashout... My account was deleted. This was over a year ago and I thought by now they would have definitely been shut down. but then i saw all these comments and some FAIRLY recent ones... So, I just felt inclined to share.
Name: James Johnson Date: September 4, 2005 Comments: I was also a member of allyousubmitters, I had over 250.00 in my account when they stole it and deleted my account. They are thieves alright!! I did log in once a week and clicked on one email link a week to stay active, but they still deleted my account. Never answered my emails either.
Name: Renee K. Date: September 21, 2005 Comments: I reached the minimum payout, and requested my $180.00 for faithfully clicking their emails every single day! My account page shjowed the payout was in process, however after almost two years, I can tell you I am still waiting!! During this two-year period, I emailed the company several times and never received any response. I finally emailed threatening legal action. The next time I logged into my account, I was deleted! When I contacted AYS asking (1) where is my money and (2) why is my account gone, they informed me, as they seem to do EVERYONE, that my account was deleted for inactivity! I never did get paid. Does anyone know of an agency that accepts complaints against sites like these???
Name: siria Date: January 22, 2006 Comments: I have been deleted by AYS because I forgot to login for some days. I had a big credit, and I requested for cashout (50 $) many time ago. So I lose all my big earning, I don't remember how many dollars, I'm very angry !
Name: Tara Johnson Date: February 28, 2006 Comments: My mother was a member as well as I was. My mom had over $200 in her account. Payout had been requested over a year before she was deleted for inactivity. Their terms said she could be re-instated when she sent documentation of illness. Info was sent, her account wasn't re-instated.
Name: J R Johnson Date: April 24, 2006 Comments: AYS is a bad program a scam!!! I requested payout at 50.00 and my account was over 200.00 owed to me when that crook deleted my account!!
Name: ML Date: April 27, 2006 Comments: I have been waiting two years for payout
Name: Gene Date: May 14, 2006 Comments: When I first joined AYS over two years ago, their emails were 5 cents apiece with a 1 minute timer each. After faithfully clicking FOREVER, I finally reached payout of $100 as stated in their TOS. When I asked for payout, I was told I was at bottom of long waiting list as they were having problems with getting paid from their host. After about 6 months I again asked for payout,and was told they were making payouts in order received. However since I had asked for payout SO SOON, I was placed at bottom of list again. After another 4 or 5 months, they dropped payout to $50 so I resubmitted another request. I was informed they were in process of switching host servers, but give them a little time and resubmit my request. All of this time I was a faithful clicker so I would not be deleted for nonactivity. After 90 days, I resubmitted payout request and was told WM was ill at that time to resubmit a little while later. I had accumulated over $150 during this total period of time, and was getting impatient. I waited another 4 or 5 months and resubmitted payout request for $100. They informed me they had no record of any previous requests and this was my first payout request and MANY other people were in front of me, and they could give me no length of time I would have to wait. I then informed them they could take whatever amount I had and SHOVE IT and I will do any and everyting to let EVERYBODY know what a scam artist they most certainly are!!!
Name: Patricia Date: July 3, 2008 Comments: I was also a member of this lets say scam, and I requested payout and never got it of course. I sent them an email and told them how immuture they were being and they sent me back an email telling me if I didn't like the way they were running their program then feel free to unsubscribe. Well that's what they wanted me to do cause they owed me around 150 dollars.
Name: Mil Date: March 31, 2008 Comments: They are the ultimate worst
PTR ever sofar. Nothing but lies for years & years. They
spead cancer & death.
Name: still waiting for payout Date: July 4, 2008 Comments: Joined program in 2003. I reached the $50 payout and was paid that. Reached next payout and cashed out in February 2004. Never received payment. I'm beyond irritated at listening to "Oh, we know we'll get paid, Linder is so honest and fabulous and great", etc. I actually filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and (SURPRISE!) Linder never answered it. They have other complaints there, too, so I wasn't the first to think of that.
According to the owner's friend/rep who posts on their forum frequently, we'll all be paid someday. Riiiight. At the rate they're going (less than 1 payout over a year period), I should be paid my $200 payout by the time I'm 980+ years old. And there you have it!
Name: johann ritter Date: July 3, 2008 Comments: never paid...
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